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Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
by Michelle
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm hey michelle can u unvote urself its not helpful to VCA when u do stuff like that
For you
[VOTE: unvote] aubergine

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
by DkKoba
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
can you expand on that? what specifically about her intent are you townreading?
ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:10 pm
by DkKoba
im still highkey pissed abt the self hammer from LC so thanks for that

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:10 pm
by staypositivefriend
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:03 pm it's a mix of both. i feel that this is one of the weaker town games i've had recently, in the sense that i misvoted on d1 and in the sense that i've been having a harder time grabbing ahold of solid, concrete scumreads like i usually do. (no need to be hard on myself tho - this game is still fun). i also feel that if we live in a michelle/made/x scumworld like i suspect that we might, then my town equity is going to increase day by day, and the game will hopefully be over before anyone has a chance to meaningfully tinfoil me
Alright, that answer satisfies me. I think if we live in, say, Michelle/Made/SPF world, you'd be a lot more desperate to get into the towncore and go deep (see: Grasslands where you realized your two partners were POE'd out of the game early and focused all your efforts on getting to endgame). I don't see desperation or panic here wrt to your status in the towncore or lack thereof, which moves you higher in my eyes, since forcing your way into the towncore is your path to victory as mafia.
yeah i would be extremely desperate :P

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
by Michelle
The am slightly amused about how many times i have the first post of the page ^^

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
by staypositivefriend
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
can you expand on that? what specifically about her intent are you townreading?
ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.
can you do me a favor and skim through the posts that she's made today in her ISO, if you haven't already? i've expanded on this already but the main thing that concerns me about her is that i struggle to see her reads coming from a town mindset, they are stagnant and highly reactive

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
by Made
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:03 pm This has been bothering the back of my mind for a bit so I'm going to note it down here: a lot of people have come forward and said something like "actually why are we townclearing nutella" or "actually maybe nutella is scum". This doesn't make sense to me because nutella is in the exact same obvious town position as she tends to be most of the time when she's town. I've played quite a few games with her in that position, as both alignments, and most of the time it's just accepted that she's town and people don't question it or tinfoil her.

From memory, the people who've tried to poke at nutella's position are DK, DOOM, Michelle, Made and LC. LC is flipped town, so not a concern - DK and DOOM are new to the site, which could potentially explain their behavior. That the two names left on the list are Michelle and Made (my top two suspects) makes me think that the shade against nutella comes from a wolfy place, possibly piggybacking off genuine new-to-the-site suspicion from DK and DOOM. This suggests that the towncore is mostly watertight, and that mafia are trying their best to crack it, and it doubly clears nutella if so.
It might be lack a familiarity with Nutella’s meta on me too? I’ve never been able to read her, and always bias towards scum for her sheepness , and I don’t see her sheepness at all this game which makes me worried. That was her defining meta last time I was active-active 4/5 years ago, as well as in Mistery Corridor.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
by staypositivefriend
vote: made

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
I can't tell if Esooa hasn't read the game or is mafia

Will conclude on this in a bit lol

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
by Made
[VOTE: michelle] aubergine i also prefer i don’t die first

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
by Alison
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm It might be lack a familiarity with Nutella’s meta on me too? I’ve never been able to read her, and always bias towards scum for her sheepness , and I don’t see her sheepness at all this game which makes me worried. That was her defining meta last time I was active-active 4/5 years ago, as well as in Mistery Corridor.
What's your experience with nutella again? I thought you'd played here for some time?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
by Michelle
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:10 pm im still highkey pissed abt the self hammer from LC so thanks for that
If you feel the need to check the day 1 VCs i saved, you have them all in my Iso recently posted in a spoiler

All you have to do is to ctrl+f for spoiler on my Iso in the browser search

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:14 pm
by Michelle
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm [VOTE: michelle] aubergine i also prefer i don’t die first
Self press? :evileye:

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm
by Esooa
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 5:48 pm Everything with Made/Michelle/Ellie feels weird as shit honestly. Completely nonsensical reads, intentional wifoming/scumclaiming for no reason other than to mess with people's heads, hard shielding and deathtunnelling each other, AtE, I'm kind of done with it all. It's probably just some weird attempt to anti-spew/generate chaos because it's the only way they can win so I'm going to just kill them and let Marmot sort them out for me.
the bermuda triangle of wifom

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm
by DkKoba
holy shit trying to read the ISOs is giving me an aneurism how do i make them list in chronological order from oldest to newest

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm
by Made
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm It might be lack a familiarity with Nutella’s meta on me too? I’ve never been able to read her, and always bias towards scum for her sheepness , and I don’t see her sheepness at all this game which makes me worried. That was her defining meta last time I was active-active 4/5 years ago, as well as in Mistery Corridor.
What's your experience with nutella again? I thought you'd played here for some time?
Met her off site years back, then ended up play a few games with her, then i took a absence. Last game I was active active in before my break was vocaroo mafia 1.

i don’t think she was a site mod last we played

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm
by DkKoba
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:10 pm im still highkey pissed abt the self hammer from LC so thanks for that
If you feel the need to check the day 1 VCs i saved, you have them all in my Iso recently posted in a spoiler

All you have to do is to ctrl+f for spoiler on my Iso in the browser search
ive been keeping track of my own that are just screenshots but thanks :P

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
by DkKoba
i am missing a chunk of d2's rn that will prob be important so

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
by Michelle
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
can you expand on that? what specifically about her intent are you townreading?
ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.
can you do me a favor and skim through the posts that she's made today in her ISO, if you haven't already? i've expanded on this already but the main thing that concerns me about her is that i struggle to see her reads coming from a town mindset, they are stagnant and highly reactive
You are not struggling, this is an exaggeration, you know i am villager and is very convenient for you to pretend you don't understand why i read you mafia.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
by Alison
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm It might be lack a familiarity with Nutella’s meta on me too? I’ve never been able to read her, and always bias towards scum for her sheepness , and I don’t see her sheepness at all this game which makes me worried. That was her defining meta last time I was active-active 4/5 years ago, as well as in Mistery Corridor.
What's your experience with nutella again? I thought you'd played here for some time?
Met her off site years back, then ended up play a few games with her, then i took a absence. Last game I was active active in before my break was vocaroo mafia 1.

i don’t think she was a site mod last we played
How many games have you played with her in the past, say, 1 or 2 years?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
by nutella
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
I strongly encourage you to read more lol

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:18 pm
by DkKoba
nutella wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
I strongly encourage you to read more lol
i highly encourage you to get into the oven

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:15 am I find that my reads are so contrarian that posting them would just get me scum read, but I don't play mafia like a scared person.

SPF
Alison
Koba
Esooa
Michelle
tutuu
Nanook
Grogu
Jay
Made
Nutella
Ellie
Esooa wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:40 am cool, really enjoy playing a game where I get based on if my reads are anything but 100% correct while u get to just sound towny day 0 and get lock cleared by everyone and don't have to care at all about if you have a single incorrect reads with players you barely even know they're all gonna apply some kinda insane meta where my reads are always correct or I get hard pushed for entire day phases at a time

I'm not checking this thread for the next 24 hours wtv

Ellie+made+1

+1 in koba/grogu/DOOM/spf/koba (maybe forgetting one)

most likely doom
It's like you aren't even taking a minute to read my game or understand that I have tried to kill your scumreads more than you have today, and then on top of being ignorant of this, you throw me into that scumlist with them.

We call that a Yikers

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
by staypositivefriend
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
can you expand on that? what specifically about her intent are you townreading?
ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.
can you do me a favor and skim through the posts that she's made today in her ISO, if you haven't already? i've expanded on this already but the main thing that concerns me about her is that i struggle to see her reads coming from a town mindset, they are stagnant and highly reactive
You are not struggling, this is an exaggeration, you know i am villager and is very convenient for you to pretend you don't understand why i read you mafia.
work with me for a second - do you understand why spf!town might grow concerned that your three top scumreads are the three people who happened to vote you first? and can you see why it might become even more concerning that you are doubling down on your confidence instead o re-evaluating and outing thoughtful observations?

why should i assume that you're town?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
by Michelle
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm holy shit trying to read the ISOs is giving me an aneurism how do i make them list in chronological order from oldest to newest
Idk if you can, you have them from the first to the last, chronologically ordered

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
by Made
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm It might be lack a familiarity with Nutella’s meta on me too? I’ve never been able to read her, and always bias towards scum for her sheepness , and I don’t see her sheepness at all this game which makes me worried. That was her defining meta last time I was active-active 4/5 years ago, as well as in Mistery Corridor.
What's your experience with nutella again? I thought you'd played here for some time?
Met her off site years back, then ended up play a few games with her, then i took a absence. Last game I was active active in before my break was vocaroo mafia 1.

i don’t think she was a site mod last we played
How many games have you played with her in the past, say, 1 or 2 years?
Two , mistery corridor, and the pretend to be a player game, but i never went back and checked to see which sock she was. I rolled dunya!town that game

@nutella which sock were you?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:20 pm
by nutella
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm i am missing a chunk of d2's rn that will prob be important so
yeah. like michelle openwolfing

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:20 pm
by DkKoba
ok there was this analyiss post from michelle i really likea bt the mac kill and then also i say her VCA which i totally vibed with cuz she seems to be the only one who is looking for scum on wagons here based on what im reading which is something i am also doing.

like ignoring nightkills/wagon composition is something scum tend to do.

i cba to case ppl bc of the post volume but the vibes are there and the vibes are strong.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:21 pm
by DaughterOfOmega
If Ellie and Made are town, I'm fairly sure Esooa is confirmed mafia for how they've played, although I don't really like waiting to see two more flips until I decide on that.

If Esooa is mafia I'd look into something like Nutella/Esooa+1

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:21 pm
by Made
I also died n1 with a dope save

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
by DkKoba
also esooa is town here - she is exhibiting the secret tell i have on her currently wrt being an informed party.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
by Made
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:21 pm If Ellie and Made are town, I'm fairly sure Esooa is confirmed mafia for how they've played, although I don't really like waiting to see two more flips until I decide on that.

If Esooa is mafia I'd look into something like Nutella/Esooa+1
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:20 pm ok there was this analyiss post from michelle i really likea bt the mac kill and then also i say her VCA which i totally vibed with cuz she seems to be the only one who is looking for scum on wagons here based on what im reading which is something i am also doing.

like ignoring nightkills/wagon composition is something scum tend to do.

i cba to case ppl bc of the post volume but the vibes are there and the vibes are strong.
I’ve never felt so seen :hugs:

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
by staypositivefriend
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:20 pm ok there was this analyiss post from michelle i really likea bt the mac kill and then also i say her VCA which i totally vibed with cuz she seems to be the only one who is looking for scum on wagons here based on what im reading which is something i am also doing.

like ignoring nightkills/wagon composition is something scum tend to do.

i cba to case ppl bc of the post volume but the vibes are there and the vibes are strong.
how do u feel about made?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
by Made
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm also esooa is town here - she is exhibiting the secret tell i have on her currently wrt being an informed party.
That’s really bad, if ur right

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
by nutella
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm It might be lack a familiarity with Nutella’s meta on me too? I’ve never been able to read her, and always bias towards scum for her sheepness , and I don’t see her sheepness at all this game which makes me worried. That was her defining meta last time I was active-active 4/5 years ago, as well as in Mistery Corridor.
What's your experience with nutella again? I thought you'd played here for some time?
Met her off site years back, then ended up play a few games with her, then i took a absence. Last game I was active active in before my break was vocaroo mafia 1.

i don’t think she was a site mod last we played
How many games have you played with her in the past, say, 1 or 2 years?
Two , mistery corridor, and the pretend to be a player game, but i never went back and checked to see which sock she was. I rolled dunya!town that game

@nutella which sock were you?
i was fake michelle
and michelle was fake you lol

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:23 pm
by Michelle
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
can you expand on that? what specifically about her intent are you townreading?
ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.
can you do me a favor and skim through the posts that she's made today in her ISO, if you haven't already? i've expanded on this already but the main thing that concerns me about her is that i struggle to see her reads coming from a town mindset, they are stagnant and highly reactive
You are not struggling, this is an exaggeration, you know i am villager and is very convenient for you to pretend you don't understand why i read you mafia.
work with me for a second - do you understand why spf!town might grow concerned that your three top scumreads are the three people who happened to vote you first? and can you see why it might become even more concerning that you are doubling down on your confidence instead o re-evaluating and outing thoughtful observations?

why should i assume that you're town?
No.
You work with me.
Do you realise how faking you understand my meta and pretending you recognise this as my scum game and the fact you went to sleep when i had 7 votes makes you mafia in my eyes?
Why should i assume that you are a villager?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:23 pm
by DkKoba
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:20 pm ok there was this analyiss post from michelle i really likea bt the mac kill and then also i say her VCA which i totally vibed with cuz she seems to be the only one who is looking for scum on wagons here based on what im reading which is something i am also doing.

like ignoring nightkills/wagon composition is something scum tend to do.

i cba to case ppl bc of the post volume but the vibes are there and the vibes are strong.
how do u feel about made?
gth?
not scum.

still worth keeping an eye on but i think they towntold in the interactions they had last night

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:25 pm
by Esooa
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
classic koba completely misreading obvious scum to tunnel an obvious town

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:25 pm
by DkKoba
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm also esooa is town here - she is exhibiting the secret tell i have on her currently wrt being an informed party.
That’s really bad, if ur right
i wish to inform you that esooa hardtunneled on me in a game when i suspected her of being a deepwolf after a scum was limmed day 1 cuz i correctly deduced scum was on that wagon since the limmed scum self hammered. after a bit of back and forth i ended up townreading her cuz of said secret tell i figured out.


turned out i was right and while i was afk they ended up limming the scum... on wagon.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:26 pm
by Alison
New theory: Dkkoba is 1337 in Doppelgangsters. Probably only those in that game will understand this but I think the comparison is apt lol.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:26 pm
by Made
nutella wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
Spoiler: show
Spoiler: show
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:16 pm
Alison wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:13 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm It might be lack a familiarity with Nutella’s meta on me too? I’ve never been able to read her, and always bias towards scum for her sheepness , and I don’t see her sheepness at all this game which makes me worried. That was her defining meta last time I was active-active 4/5 years ago, as well as in Mistery Corridor.
What's your experience with nutella again? I thought you'd played here for some time?
Met her off site years back, then ended up play a few games with her, then i took a absence. Last game I was active active in before my break was vocaroo mafia 1.

i don’t think she was a site mod last we played
How many games have you played with her in the past, say, 1 or 2 years?
Two , mistery corridor, and the pretend to be a player game, but i never went back and checked to see which sock she was. I rolled dunya!town that game

@nutella which sock were you?
i was fake michelle
and michelle was fake you lol
Huh, she did a great job :haha:

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:27 pm
by staypositivefriend
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:23 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm [VOTE: nutella] aubergine

also im fairly sure michelle is town.
her intent in her posts feel towny
can you expand on that? what specifically about her intent are you townreading?
ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.
can you do me a favor and skim through the posts that she's made today in her ISO, if you haven't already? i've expanded on this already but the main thing that concerns me about her is that i struggle to see her reads coming from a town mindset, they are stagnant and highly reactive
You are not struggling, this is an exaggeration, you know i am villager and is very convenient for you to pretend you don't understand why i read you mafia.
work with me for a second - do you understand why spf!town might grow concerned that your three top scumreads are the three people who happened to vote you first? and can you see why it might become even more concerning that you are doubling down on your confidence instead o re-evaluating and outing thoughtful observations?

why should i assume that you're town?
No.
You work with me.
Do you realise how faking you understand my meta and pretending you recognise this as my scum game and the fact you went to sleep when i had 7 votes makes you mafia in my eyes?
Why should i assume that you are a villager?
i haven't faked an understanding of your meta - i have constantly asked people about your meta in this game in an attempt to get a better baseline for how to read you. my feelings that this game is different from your scum meta is exactly what stopped me from pushing on you harder on d1

however, i did find a post from a scum game that you linked where your style of OMGUS'ing was extremely similar to the way you've OMGUS'd in this game. you'd have to tell me what meta i'm "faking" about you

also, was the wagon on you really at 7 votes vote when i put my vote down? i didn't know there were even 7 people online last night, lol

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:27 pm
by Esooa
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
DaughterOfOmega wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 2:15 am I find that my reads are so contrarian that posting them would just get me scum read, but I don't play mafia like a scared person.

SPF
Alison
Koba
Esooa
Michelle
tutuu
Nanook
Grogu
Jay
Made
Nutella
Ellie
Esooa wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 1:40 am cool, really enjoy playing a game where I get based on if my reads are anything but 100% correct while u get to just sound towny day 0 and get lock cleared by everyone and don't have to care at all about if you have a single incorrect reads with players you barely even know they're all gonna apply some kinda insane meta where my reads are always correct or I get hard pushed for entire day phases at a time

I'm not checking this thread for the next 24 hours wtv

Ellie+made+1

+1 in koba/grogu/DOOM/spf/koba (maybe forgetting one)

most likely doom
It's like you aren't even taking a minute to read my game or understand that I have tried to kill your scumreads more than you have today, and then on top of being ignorant of this, you throw me into that scumlist with them.

We call that a Yikers
@DaughterOfOmega I've changed my mind since then. You're very likely town imo

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:30 pm
by DkKoba
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:27 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:23 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm

can you expand on that? what specifically about her intent are you townreading?
ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.
can you do me a favor and skim through the posts that she's made today in her ISO, if you haven't already? i've expanded on this already but the main thing that concerns me about her is that i struggle to see her reads coming from a town mindset, they are stagnant and highly reactive
You are not struggling, this is an exaggeration, you know i am villager and is very convenient for you to pretend you don't understand why i read you mafia.
work with me for a second - do you understand why spf!town might grow concerned that your three top scumreads are the three people who happened to vote you first? and can you see why it might become even more concerning that you are doubling down on your confidence instead o re-evaluating and outing thoughtful observations?

why should i assume that you're town?
No.
You work with me.
Do you realise how faking you understand my meta and pretending you recognise this as my scum game and the fact you went to sleep when i had 7 votes makes you mafia in my eyes?
Why should i assume that you are a villager?
i haven't faked an understanding of your meta - i have constantly asked people about your meta in this game in an attempt to get a better baseline for how to read you. my feelings that this game is different from your scum meta is exactly what stopped me from pushing on you harder on d1

however, i did find a post from a scum game that you linked where your style of OMGUS'ing was extremely similar to the way you've OMGUS'd in this game. you'd have to tell me what meta i'm "faking" about you

also, was the wagon on you really at 7 votes vote when i put my vote down? i didn't know there were even 7 people online last night, lol
uh why would u believe in meta when its led to ur elimination more than once.........

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:31 pm
by JaggedJimmyJay
Anyone out there think there are fewer than two mafia in this group: [Michelle, Made, Ellie]

?

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:31 pm
by staypositivefriend
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:30 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:27 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:23 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm

ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.
can you do me a favor and skim through the posts that she's made today in her ISO, if you haven't already? i've expanded on this already but the main thing that concerns me about her is that i struggle to see her reads coming from a town mindset, they are stagnant and highly reactive
You are not struggling, this is an exaggeration, you know i am villager and is very convenient for you to pretend you don't understand why i read you mafia.
work with me for a second - do you understand why spf!town might grow concerned that your three top scumreads are the three people who happened to vote you first? and can you see why it might become even more concerning that you are doubling down on your confidence instead o re-evaluating and outing thoughtful observations?

why should i assume that you're town?
No.
You work with me.
Do you realise how faking you understand my meta and pretending you recognise this as my scum game and the fact you went to sleep when i had 7 votes makes you mafia in my eyes?
Why should i assume that you are a villager?
i haven't faked an understanding of your meta - i have constantly asked people about your meta in this game in an attempt to get a better baseline for how to read you. my feelings that this game is different from your scum meta is exactly what stopped me from pushing on you harder on d1

however, i did find a post from a scum game that you linked where your style of OMGUS'ing was extremely similar to the way you've OMGUS'd in this game. you'd have to tell me what meta i'm "faking" about you

also, was the wagon on you really at 7 votes vote when i put my vote down? i didn't know there were even 7 people online last night, lol
uh why would u believe in meta when its led to ur elimination more than once.........
people pushing me based on a faulty understanding of my meta in previous games doesn't necessarily mean that meta is useless

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:31 pm
by Made
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:31 pm Anyone out there think there are fewer than two mafia in this group: [Michelle, Made, Ellie]

?
Yes

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:32 pm
by Esooa
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:25 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm also esooa is town here - she is exhibiting the secret tell i have on her currently wrt being an informed party.
That’s really bad, if ur right
i wish to inform you that esooa hardtunneled on me in a game when i suspected her of being a deepwolf after a scum was limmed day 1 cuz i correctly deduced scum was on that wagon since the limmed scum self hammered. after a bit of back and forth i ended up townreading her cuz of said secret tell i figured out.


turned out i was right and while i was afk they ended up limming the scum... on wagon.
you suspected me of being a deep wolf after I hard pushed the flipped scum and single handedly got the flipped scum killed and had a strong scum read with good justifications on the last scum bruh

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:34 pm
by DkKoba
Esooa wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:32 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:25 pm
Made wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:22 pm also esooa is town here - she is exhibiting the secret tell i have on her currently wrt being an informed party.
That’s really bad, if ur right
i wish to inform you that esooa hardtunneled on me in a game when i suspected her of being a deepwolf after a scum was limmed day 1 cuz i correctly deduced scum was on that wagon since the limmed scum self hammered. after a bit of back and forth i ended up townreading her cuz of said secret tell i figured out.


turned out i was right and while i was afk they ended up limming the scum... on wagon.
you suspected me of being a deep wolf after I hard pushed the flipped scum and single handedly got the flipped scum killed and had a strong scum read with good justifications on the last scum bruh
i had every reason to believe that based on ur anti town play that game pls stop

u wanted me limmed first, and i pushed back and then ended up with a townread on u.

being on scum wagon does not = you are town.

Re: Bread Mafia [Day 2]

Posted: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:38 pm
by Michelle
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:27 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:23 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:19 pm
Michelle wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:17 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:11 pm
DkKoba wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:09 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: Sat Jan 23, 2021 6:08 pm

can you expand on that? what specifically about her intent are you townreading?
ok there was like 1 post that stood out that sorta locked it in but in general her iso i dont see anything that sets off red flags for me.
can you do me a favor and skim through the posts that she's made today in her ISO, if you haven't already? i've expanded on this already but the main thing that concerns me about her is that i struggle to see her reads coming from a town mindset, they are stagnant and highly reactive
You are not struggling, this is an exaggeration, you know i am villager and is very convenient for you to pretend you don't understand why i read you mafia.
work with me for a second - do you understand why spf!town might grow concerned that your three top scumreads are the three people who happened to vote you first? and can you see why it might become even more concerning that you are doubling down on your confidence instead o re-evaluating and outing thoughtful observations?

why should i assume that you're town?
No.
You work with me.
Do you realise how faking you understand my meta and pretending you recognise this as my scum game and the fact you went to sleep when i had 7 votes makes you mafia in my eyes?
Why should i assume that you are a villager?
i haven't faked an understanding of your meta - i have constantly asked people about your meta in this game in an attempt to get a better baseline for how to read you. my feelings that this game is different from your scum meta is exactly what stopped me from pushing on you harder on d1

however, i did find a post from a scum game that you linked where your style of OMGUS'ing was extremely similar to the way you've OMGUS'd in this game. you'd have to tell me what meta i'm "faking" about you

also, was the wagon on you really at 7 votes vote when i put my vote down? i didn't know there were even 7 people online last night, lol
You didn't know you let me with 7 votes and content of yourself? :suspish:

You know what is so nice about meta? People are usually too lazy to search and they are trusting the ones who pretend they checked something

Omgusing as town is my favourite move and the best way to receive a reaction test. So when you say i omgus-ed as scum it was just a mimic of my town play. What you didn't check because it was out of your interest, was my town voting behaviour. I received tons of heat because of omgus so i know.