Mortal Kombat Mafia [ENDGAME]

[speedchuck]

speedchuck
Long Con
lapluie
Quin
Macdougall
DrWilgy
Dave
Elohcin
Made
novaselinenever

In light of Wilgy's absence on the poll, JoH's flip, and Jay's analysis, I'm sitting here I think.

[nutellaphant]

Under what conditions can we trust Elohcin or Made? Are those conditions real? We do not believe in them.

[speedchuck]

Hi ermac

Hi Master Charles. We are happy to return.

Good to have you back.

If I may ask, Ermac, I'd like you to answer one of the following questions. If you can.

1. Would you prefer that this game ended sooner, or later?
2. Is there a person in this game you would prefer me to shoot right this instant?
3. Do you prefer chaos, or order?

[Kylemii]

Speedchuck would be a gray area read for me except for the fact that I basically 100% agree with his PoE lists.

[MacDougall]

Lol 2 votes. Will Mac be mislynched on day 1 AND day 7? Stay tuned.

[speedchuck]

Lol 2 votes. Will Mac be mislynched on day 1 AND day 7? Stay tuned.

I would currently change my vote to prevent that, if it came down to it.

[nutellaphant]

Hi ermac

Hi Master Charles. We are happy to return.

Good to have you back.

If I may ask, Ermac, I'd like you to answer one of the following questions. If you can.

1. Would you prefer that this game ended sooner, or later?
2. Is there a person in this game you would prefer me to shoot right this instant?
3. Do you prefer chaos, or order?

We would prefer the most expedient course to a shared victory and a shared glory, my friend.

We would invite you to shoot Elohcin or Made.

We prefer... fun!

[MacDougall]

Lol 2 votes. Will Mac be mislynched on day 1 AND day 7? Stay tuned.

I would currently change my vote to prevent that, if it came down to it.

Even after all my tunnelling you remain a firm friend. *single tear*.

[nutellaphant]

We would ask if the case against the one who refuses lubricant is that different from the case against Master Doctor Wilgy?

[speedchuck]

Lol 2 votes. Will Mac be mislynched on day 1 AND day 7? Stay tuned.

I would currently change my vote to prevent that, if it came down to it.

Even after all my tunnelling you remain a firm friend. *single tear*.

There is light on the other side of this long passage, my dear companion.

[speedchuck]

We would ask if the case against the one who refuses lubricant is that different from the case against Master Doctor Wilgy?

Nova has worse votes and cases, and made them in a worse way. (Worse == more scummy. I don't recall any Wilgy votes/cases. Has wilgy even cased?)
Nova has not been taken off the poll by a townie who trusts him.
Nova hasn't been making wacky posts like Wilgy does. He's not using that excuse, and he doesn't have the history to back that up either. Instead he has been laying low.

You see more certain about Elocin than most. Why is that?

[Made]

Under what conditions can we trust Elohcin or Made? Are those conditions real? We do not believe in them.

first of all stop with this elmo shit and talk in the first person singular you herb

[Made]

second of all, at me or fight bish
[mention]Ermac[/mention]

[Made]

Speedchuck would be a gray area read for me except for the fact that I basically 100% agree with his PoE lists.

you don't have to be civvie to agree with the climate of the thread. while I personally have speed as a greener read, if need be a list like that could be crafted to step on as few toes as possible.

tin foil tier D

why do you distrust speed?

[Made]

and actually..made could be substituted for Nova in that situation. What has made said all game?

w0w, you miss one day phase and suddenly you've been absent all game. rude.

i like with your wilgy theory, but still rude

[Made]

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If not clear, ily Eloh and i'm just clowning <3333

[Kylemii]

Speedchuck would be a gray area read for me except for the fact that I basically 100% agree with his PoE lists.

you don't have to be civvie to agree with the climate of the thread. while I personally have speed as a greener read, if need be a list like that could be crafted to step on as few toes as possible.

tin foil tier D

why do you distrust speed?

i don't distrust speed. I don't ever fully trust or distrust anyone until i have a reason to.

gray area means unsure. like yellow on a rainbow list. I didn't know where to place him, making him an unknown variable. the fact that i feel like he and I have the same opinions on our POE's makes me feel like he can be trusted, because i agree with his priorities

[Made]

He hasn't revisited the matter of Marmot since, and I was starting to get louder in my anti-Marmot talk while Made was still here on Day 5. There were opportunities. There's also this:

Spoiler: show

wow y'all a tie? for realzies?
gonna re read simon, cuz i don't remember anything from him at all, but my thought process right now is bad things from one player with good things vs no good things from another player and absents isn't a black and white policy lynch but depends on context of the absents and how bad the bad things are.

voting nutella now

lmao that was a short read. i could go either way. i'd wager that simon is unfamilar with the "baddies post more emojis' train of thought, and i'm typically against it, but like that's a thing that exist for a reason, i mean probably.

the fact that simon hasn't come in to defend himself, today, yesterday, last night etc etc etc makes a bit nervous tho. I'd be very sure that should he be bad his teammates would bus the shit out of him cuz easy civ cred. I feel like a civvie simon would be less likely to play defense than a mafia simon.

The first one is extremely vague without names attached to each "bad things/good things" player he's talking about (presumably Simon and nutella, but which is which?). It's a mess of a sentence, and proceeding into the next post they combine to serve as a laborious defense of Simon. One must go through some kinds of mental gymnastics to arrive at the conclusion that for x reason a civilian Simon wouldn't defend himself as much as a mafia Simon. It's dubious.

Hello, this is Made's secretary.
It appears as if an argument has been presented to defame Made. I apologize in advance for the brevity of the defense against this point but time constraints demand I be concise.

This post is taken out of context. The climate of the thread at that point, as corrected pointed out by JJJ, was a nutella vs simon lynch. Made can use some rather *ahem* artistic language at times, but having spoken about nutella at length, made was hoping to get across the suspicions he had of Simon at this point, a player he had yet to fully exam at this point, mainly due to the lack of content from Simon at this time, as well as his "no catch up" policy.

For further analysis of this post, reading the page on which this post was made is all but essential. And while we do see how the opinion that "mafia defend themself more" might seem like mental gymastics, it's worth considering the fact a player on a team might feel more of a duty to defend themselves/set themselves up in a way in which their lynch provides an advantange to their team where as a solo player might take more liberties in defending themself.

I hope the above will surfice for the time being. Made will likely be around for the remander of the day to answer any linguring questions.

Cheers,
-MS

[speedchuck]

Who does made currently suspect?

[Made]

Who does made currently suspect?

i don't like wilgy but he's not on the poll. nova is a pretty null read for me, but that's more because i can't remember anything from them, and that might just be on me. LC gives me the geebs, but he was cleared if my memory serves my right so i'm not going there, mcDom hasn't said anything that gots me feeling good about em. I want to trust JJJ, so i do. ur ok ig. I like what eloh's said so far. dave is nova part two for me. all in all i think i'm in a pretty PoE point, which leaves me with a nova, mcDom, and dave likely in that order.

gotta do work, this will be my last response for the night unless it ends up not being.

[lapluie]

We are not pleased with your "Elohcin". We can see the fabric of space itself warp in her passing, the evil radiating so.

I've always suspected elochin ....

[Elohcin]

and actually..made could be substituted for Nova in that situation. What has made said all game?

w0w, you miss one day phase and suddenly you've been absent all game. rude.

i like with your wilgy theory, but still rude

I'm sorry. I wasn't trying to be rude. I guess your posts just haven't stuck out in my mind. I'll take it back. Thank you for your feedback on my theory even though it wasn't much. I don't throw theories out into the thread often because they are usually met with silence unfortunately. I thought this one was pretty good, but I guess others just chose to ignore it as usual. When I ask for feedback, I like feedback...even if you tell me, "yo, eloh, your theory is bonkers."

What's up with this ermac throwing around my name?

We are not pleased with your "Elohcin". We can see the fabric of space itself warp in her passing, the evil radiating so.

I've always suspected elochin ....

I'm not surprised. This is normal for those who are playing with me for the first time. Apparently I am just a very suspicious player in general. I've been mislynched a whole bunch in the past and syndicaters know this.

[Long Con]

Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.

The first sentence is a total lie.

Is it? I thought I saw that clearly before I posted that. Going out right now, I'll try to follow up on that tomorrow.

[Quin]

Voted nova someone kill me already god damn it

[MacDougall]

Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.

The first sentence is a total lie.

Is it? I thought I saw that clearly before I posted that. Going out right now, I'll try to follow up on that tomorrow.

I scum read him and still do.

[speedchuck]

Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.

The first sentence is a total lie.

Is it? I thought I saw that clearly before I posted that. Going out right now, I'll try to follow up on that tomorrow.

I scum read him and still do.

What do you think went on with the nightkill?

[Long Con]

Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.

The first sentence is a total lie.

Is it? I thought I saw that clearly before I posted that. Going out right now, I'll try to follow up on that tomorrow.

I scum read him and still do.

Seems to be true. Ok, how much can we trust Ermac?

[speedchuck]

Mac said Jack was good. Jack said Mac is good. Jack dies. Mac did it.

The first sentence is a total lie.

Is it? I thought I saw that clearly before I posted that. Going out right now, I'll try to follow up on that tomorrow.

I scum read him and still do.

Seems to be true. Ok, how much can we trust Ermac?

I don't not trust Ermac.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

A Mac lynch seems pointless. What has he done or said since his return to the thread which should point in his direction? I thought there was at least a decent reason to avoid a Dom lynch (Marmot's willingness to call for his being shot by a vigilante), and that reason transfers seamlessly to Mac.

A novaselinenever lynch would be acceptable if not especially inspired. I have no reason to give him civilian credit. I have no reason to give Elohcin civilian credit either.

My preferred option remains Made.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

A Mac lynch seems pointless. What has he done or said since his return to the thread which should point in his direction? I thought there was at least a decent reason to avoid a Dom lynch (Marmot's willingness to call for his being shot by a vigilante), and that reason transfers seamlessly to Mac.

This entire time I thought there was a civilian role with a kill. Now I am not seeing it.

Unless I'm overlooking it presently, that argument no longer works for DomDougall or for Dave. A Mac lynch still strikes me as an arbitrary choice, but that specific defense is dissolved.

[speedchuck]

A Mac lynch seems pointless. What has he done or said since his return to the thread which should point in his direction? I thought there was at least a decent reason to avoid a Dom lynch (Marmot's willingness to call for his being shot by a vigilante), and that reason transfers seamlessly to Mac.

This entire time I thought there was a civilian role with a kill. Now I am not seeing it.

Unless I'm overlooking it presently, that argument no longer works for DomDougall or for Dave. A Mac lynch still strikes me as an arbitrary choice, but that specific defense is dissolved.

Every role in this game has a hidden ability. Unless you're seeing something I'm not.

Scorpion had a kill as his hidden ability (which was revealed so that Mac could rejoin).

[Kylemii]

I'd feel most comfortable with an nvn or eloh vote, i think.

[Long Con]

If only one of NVN, Eloh, and Made are bad, will we lose?

[speedchuck]

If only one of NVN, Eloh, and Made are bad, will we lose?

Depends on the 3P players and which scum are alive.

Assuming that all lynches and nightkills go through, that the 2 remaining scum would include the remaining vote manipulator, and that the 3Ps stay alive:

2 scum left
2 town left - 1 vote
2 3P left

Still technically doable, especially if a town vote manipulator is still here. I have no idea what Ermac's win con is, though, nor where JJJ would side in this case.

So yeah, it would suck.

[Kylemii]

If only one of NVN, Eloh, and Made are bad, will we lose?

I might be wrong but I think Mac replacing back in gives us a little extra time. the previous calcs had Dom and Dave being inactive as variables, and (I think?) assumed that the mafia didn't contain inactives.

[MacDougall]

Yeah I had a kill but you fucks mislynched me in my sleep.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Yeah I had a kill but you fucks mislynched me in my sleep.

Who should be lynched in their sleep today?

[MacDougall]

Speedchuck has buddied me so much I love him now. So Wilgy.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Speedchuck has buddied me so much I love him now. So Wilgy.

You'll note a particularly debilitating problem with that suggestion.

[lapluie]

I'd feel most comfortable with an nvn or eloh vote, i think.

Don't think that's a great idea

[MacDougall]

Speedchuck has buddied me so much I love him now. So Wilgy.

You'll note a particularly debilitating problem with that suggestion.

Then Marmot.

[speedchuck]

Speedchuck has buddied me so much I love him now. So Wilgy.

You'll note a particularly debilitating problem with that suggestion.

Then Marmot.

You'll note a particularly debilitating problem with that suggestion.

[speedchuck]

I'd feel most comfortable with an nvn or eloh vote, i think.

Don't think that's a great idea

Why not?

[Kylemii]

I'd feel most comfortable with an nvn or eloh vote, i think.

Don't think that's a great idea

What about Eloh?

[Kylemii]

Speedchuck has buddied me so much I love him now. So Wilgy.

You'll note a particularly debilitating problem with that suggestion.

Then Marmot.

We already..... Are you doing okay?

[MacDougall]

Speedchuck has buddied me so much I love him now. So Wilgy.

You'll note a particularly debilitating problem with that suggestion.

Then Marmot.

We already..... Are you doing okay?

System shutdown sequence initiated

[lapluie]

I'd feel most comfortable with an nvn or eloh vote, i think.

Don't think that's a great idea

What about Eloh?

not sure, not that confident with either lynches. ill just stick to my Made vote.

[speedchuck]

Speedchuck has buddied me so much I love him now. So Wilgy.

You'll note a particularly debilitating problem with that suggestion.

Then Marmot.

[mention]DrWilgy[/mention] [mention]Long Con[/mention] What do you think of the above post?

[Kylemii]

tell me about Made

[JaggedJimmyJay]

tell me about Made

Let me tell you about Made.

He did answer this stuff, but those answers made me feel approximately nothing.