Pyre Mafia [ENDGAME]

[nutella]

I'm just..... getting paranoid yknow

[DrWilgy]

@DrWilgy which version of my Marcher read do you agree with? I feel like it’s changed 15 times in the last 48 hours.

The town one. I've seen you voice that there are reasons for voting him recently and that your read is fluid, but don't think I've seen you call him scum directly. The way I had read your posts, it almost seems that you were wanting to understand the MJ wagon to better solidify your own stance or to figure out the answer to 'What if I'm wrong?'

Now, I could've extrapolated incorrectly, but that's why I was disappointed in your response to my line of questioning regarding your sense of correctness of read.

Oh, and of course the other answer for my disappointment was that you're just scum. Still not sold on that one though.

I liked your response better before you added this bit.

Consider all options. Even briefly, but don't lose sight of potential lines of play.

[nutella]

I can envision a world where wilgy and marcher are both town.
Although the way yesterday unfolded would seem to point toward at least one of them. hm.

yeah also this. how d2 went down is a big part of why I can't really fathom a world in which neither of them are wolves

[cayvie]

like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx

mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?

[MacDougall]

like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx

mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?

is this for real cuz like it feels like pure bullshit lol

[MacDougall]

[Sloonei]

I had one more concern about outed wolf that I sort of brushed over.

What's the radishes votes for? Fluff posting too much?

This is a leading question. He answers his own inquiry in such a way that the conversation is automatically being drawn further toward a negative perception of Radishes. If he left it at just the first part, it would look like a genuine question about the status of a wagon. But when you add the second question, it just becomes a condemnation of Radish's fluff posts which may or may not have existed. This makes the first question seem insincere and irrelevant; outed wolf was not asking it because he was curious, he was asking because he wanted to contribute to the negative perception against Radishes.

Ted called him out on this, and his response was an emotionally charged rejection of ted's entire position, which I can read as a player who feels they've been "caught for the wrong reasons." I do not need to read it that way, but I can:

Spoiler: show

Also, Visor’s “Was Radishes just fluff posting too much” reeked, it’s one of the wolf tactics where they just undermine a read so that when someone points out the actual reasoning, he can go “Hmmm yeah this seems alright, think I’m voting there”

It’s okay we can get em next time

how is this undermining compared to asking a question. particularly when i have not been around for the last 10 hours or so and the wagon didn't exist then afaict.

I feel very strong on outed wolf being an outed wolf, it’s the only actual scum read I have right now that involves actual reasoning

its terrible reasoning and involves looking into irrelevant things so deeply you can't see the forest for the trees

my question is something i (and every other player in the game) would ask as either villager or a wolf. its a perfectly neutral question asked to gain understanding of the current state of the game.

reading into this is like reading tea leaves. you wanna click buttons, be my guest.

having tedxtr act like he's all clever for voting me because there's a 25% chance he could be right and have gotten in on the ground floor is just stupid, and it's insulting that you think it would be at all productive regardless of my role

[MacDougall]

[MacDougall]

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

[cayvie]

like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx

mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?

is this for real cuz like it feels like pure bullshit lol

yeah it's stupid but also real maybe? idk

also it feels like you're allergic to direct engagement.

i'm trying to find evidence for my gut but maybe it's just not there. certainly nobody really seems to concur with me.

[outed wolf]

I had one more concern about outed wolf that I sort of brushed over.

What's the radishes votes for? Fluff posting too much?

This is a leading question. He answers his own inquiry in such a way that the conversation is automatically being drawn further toward a negative perception of Radishes. If he left it at just the first part, it would look like a genuine question about the status of a wagon. But when you add the second question, it just becomes a condemnation of Radish's fluff posts which may or may not have existed. This makes the first question seem insincere and irrelevant; outed wolf was not asking it because he was curious, he was asking because he wanted to contribute to the negative perception against Radishes.

Ted called him out on this, and his response was an emotionally charged rejection of ted's entire position, which I can read as a player who feels they've been "caught for the wrong reasons." I do not need to read it that way, but I can:

Spoiler: show

Also, Visor’s “Was Radishes just fluff posting too much” reeked, it’s one of the wolf tactics where they just undermine a read so that when someone points out the actual reasoning, he can go “Hmmm yeah this seems alright, think I’m voting there”

It’s okay we can get em next time

how is this undermining compared to asking a question. particularly when i have not been around for the last 10 hours or so and the wagon didn't exist then afaict.

I feel very strong on outed wolf being an outed wolf, it’s the only actual scum read I have right now that involves actual reasoning

its terrible reasoning and involves looking into irrelevant things so deeply you can't see the forest for the trees

my question is something i (and every other player in the game) would ask as either villager or a wolf. its a perfectly neutral question asked to gain understanding of the current state of the game.

reading into this is like reading tea leaves. you wanna click buttons, be my guest.

having tedxtr act like he's all clever for voting me because there's a 25% chance he could be right and have gotten in on the ground floor is just stupid, and it's insulting that you think it would be at all productive regardless of my role

and i wouldve got away with it too if it wasnt for you meddling kids

[MacDougall]

like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx

mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?

is this for real cuz like it feels like pure bullshit lol

yeah it's stupid but also real maybe? idk

also it feels like you're allergic to direct engagement.

i'm trying to find evidence for my gut but maybe it's just not there. certainly nobody really seems to concur with me.

i mean of course i respect your game, we've played turbos, popcorn, i watched champs... we've talked strategy. I know ur smart lol.

Also it was half "welcome to the game" hype so yeah dont take it so seriously yeezus.

[Sloonei]

I had one more concern about outed wolf that I sort of brushed over.

What's the radishes votes for? Fluff posting too much?

This is a leading question. He answers his own inquiry in such a way that the conversation is automatically being drawn further toward a negative perception of Radishes. If he left it at just the first part, it would look like a genuine question about the status of a wagon. But when you add the second question, it just becomes a condemnation of Radish's fluff posts which may or may not have existed. This makes the first question seem insincere and irrelevant; outed wolf was not asking it because he was curious, he was asking because he wanted to contribute to the negative perception against Radishes.

Ted called him out on this, and his response was an emotionally charged rejection of ted's entire position, which I can read as a player who feels they've been "caught for the wrong reasons." I do not need to read it that way, but I can:

Spoiler: show

Also, Visor’s “Was Radishes just fluff posting too much” reeked, it’s one of the wolf tactics where they just undermine a read so that when someone points out the actual reasoning, he can go “Hmmm yeah this seems alright, think I’m voting there”

It’s okay we can get em next time

how is this undermining compared to asking a question. particularly when i have not been around for the last 10 hours or so and the wagon didn't exist then afaict.

I feel very strong on outed wolf being an outed wolf, it’s the only actual scum read I have right now that involves actual reasoning

its terrible reasoning and involves looking into irrelevant things so deeply you can't see the forest for the trees

my question is something i (and every other player in the game) would ask as either villager or a wolf. its a perfectly neutral question asked to gain understanding of the current state of the game.

reading into this is like reading tea leaves. you wanna click buttons, be my guest.

having tedxtr act like he's all clever for voting me because there's a 25% chance he could be right and have gotten in on the ground floor is just stupid, and it's insulting that you think it would be at all productive regardless of my role

and i wouldve got away with it too if it wasnt for you meddling kids

[cayvie]

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

wat

[MacDougall]

APAGUE SU VOTO CAYVIE SOY PUEBLO JERK FACE

[cayvie]

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

[Sloonei]

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

Who else are you considering voting for?

[MacDougall]

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

[cayvie]

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

Who else are you considering voting for?

tony

[Long Con]

like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx

mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?

is this for real cuz like it feels like pure bullshit lol

yeah it's stupid but also real maybe? idk

also it feels like you're allergic to direct engagement.

i'm trying to find evidence for my gut but maybe it's just not there. certainly nobody really seems to concur with me.

I gave Mac a potato pass. I can't agree with you, legally, until Day 4.

[MacDougall]

master radishes also had a potato pass, look how that worked out

[MacDougall]

the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

[Long Con]

master radishes also had a potato pass, look how that worked out

Not from me he didn't. You can count on a Long Con Spud Allowance.

[cayvie]

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

Who else are you considering voting for?

probably outed wolf as well

[Long Con]

the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

No thank you.

[cayvie]

the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

ok [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine it is.

[MacDougall]

master radishes also had a potato pass, look how that worked out

Not from me he didn't. You can count on a Long Con Spud Allowance.

[Sloonei]

the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

[VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

[Sloonei]

the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

ok [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine it is.

lol

[outed wolf]

shouldve called myself outed villager

[Long Con]

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

Who else are you considering voting for?

tony

I thought I found his progression today towny, but then I looked at the third page of his ISO and I don't find it towny at all. I'm not sure when moth claimed a red peek, did it put him in that mode? The only post I really found to be towny was

Actually if anyone has a power that allows them to see other's stats there are some really cool situations we can force wolves into

[MacDougall]

the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

ok [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine it is.

ha good gag

[Long Con]

shouldve called myself outed villager

I feel your pain.

[Sloonei]

Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

[MacDougall]

Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

you are like normal sloonei except brain damaged, what's up man?

[Long Con]

I will join this OW locomotive. [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

[Long Con]

Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

Why is it impossible?

[MacDougall]

its like sloobot is defective and just regurgitating all of his usual stuff out of context and at high speed

[Sloonei]

Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

you are like normal sloonei except brain damaged, what's up man?

I exploded.

[Sloonei]

its like sloobot is defective and just regurgitating all of his usual stuff out of context and at high speed

error error

[Sloonei]

Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

Why is it impossible?

Wilgy had lots of votes. Marcher had lots of votes. Turnip Head got the boot.

[Long Con]

Mac. come and join Essence. This party is slammin'.

[Sloonei]

that was a "note to self" post because i'm too tired to look into it now and should probably go to sleep soon, OKAY? beep boop.

[Sloonei]

Mac. come and join Essence. This party is slammin'.

Pull up a groove and get fabulous.

[Long Con]

Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

Why is it impossible?

Wilgy had lots of votes. Marcher had lots of votes. Turnip Head got the boot.

Three town. One dies. It could easily be that. There are lots of villagers around. Questioning whether that is "possible" is

[Long Con]

I'm going to bed too.

[nutella]

all of essence going to bed at the same time


hot

[Sloonei]

all of essence going to bed at the same time


hot

The essential bedtime.

[Sloonei]

Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

Why is it impossible?

Wilgy had lots of votes. Marcher had lots of votes. Turnip Head got the boot.

Three town. One dies. It could easily be that. There are lots of villagers around. Questioning whether that is "possible" is

I am asking if it is possible. The answer might be yes. It is something explore.

[MacDougall]

Mac. come and join Essence. This party is slammin'.

essence does sound pretty hot ngl