The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:09 am**

I'm just..... getting paranoid yknow

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:09 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:57 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:55 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:52 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:41 am @DrWilgy which version of my Marcher read do you agree with? I feel like it’s changed 15 times in the last 48 hours.
The town one. I've seen you voice that there are reasons for voting him recently and that your read is fluid, but don't think I've seen you call him scum directly. The way I had read your posts, it almost seems that you were wanting to understand the MJ wagon to better solidify your own stance or to figure out the answer to 'What if I'm wrong?'

Now, I could've extrapolated incorrectly, but that's why I was disappointed in your response to my line of questioning regarding your sense of correctness of read.
Oh, and of course the other answer for my disappointment was that you're just scum. Still not sold on that one though.
I liked your response better before you added this bit.

Consider all options. Even briefly, but don't lose sight of potential lines of play.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:10 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:09 am I can envision a world where wilgy and marcher are both town.
Although the way yesterday unfolded would seem to point toward at least one of them. hm.

yeah also this. how d2 went down is a big part of why I can't really fathom a world in which neither of them are wolves

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:14 am**

like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:24 pm oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx

mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:17 am**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:14 am like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:24 pm oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx
mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?

is this for real cuz like it feels like pure bullshit lol

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:18 am**

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:18 am**

I had one more concern about outed wolf that I sort of brushed over.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:49 pm What's the radishes votes for? Fluff posting too much?

This is a leading question. He answers his own inquiry in such a way that the conversation is automatically being drawn further toward a negative perception of Radishes. If he left it at just the first part, it would look like a genuine question about the status of a wagon. But when you add the second question, it just becomes a condemnation of Radish's fluff posts which may or may not have existed. This makes the first question seem insincere and irrelevant; outed wolf was not asking it because he was curious, he was asking because he wanted to contribute to the negative perception against Radishes.

Ted called him out on this, and his response was an emotionally charged rejection of ted's entire position, which I can read as a player who feels they've been "caught for the wrong reasons." I do not need to read it that way, but I can:

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:19 am**

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:23 am**

GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:24 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:17 am
cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:14 am like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:24 pm oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx
mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?
is this for real cuz like it feels like pure bullshit lol

yeah it's stupid but also real maybe? idk

also it feels like you're allergic to direct engagement.

i'm trying to find evidence for my gut but maybe it's just not there. certainly nobody really seems to concur with me.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:24 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:18 am I had one more concern about outed wolf that I sort of brushed over.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:49 pm What's the radishes votes for? Fluff posting too much?
This is a leading question. He answers his own inquiry in such a way that the conversation is automatically being drawn further toward a negative perception of Radishes. If he left it at just the first part, it would look like a genuine question about the status of a wagon. But when you add the second question, it just becomes a condemnation of Radish's fluff posts which may or may not have existed. This makes the first question seem insincere and irrelevant; outed wolf was not asking it because he was curious, he was asking because he wanted to contribute to the negative perception against Radishes.

Ted called him out on this, and his response was an emotionally charged rejection of ted's entire position, which I can read as a player who feels they've been "caught for the wrong reasons." I do not need to read it that way, but I can:

Spoiler: show
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:10 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:09 pm Also, Visor’s “Was Radishes just fluff posting too much” reeked, it’s one of the wolf tactics where they just undermine a read so that when someone points out the actual reasoning, he can go “Hmmm yeah this seems alright, think I’m voting there”

It’s okay we can get em next time
how is this undermining compared to asking a question. particularly when i have not been around for the last 10 hours or so and the wagon didn't exist then afaict.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:16 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:11 pm I feel very strong on outed wolf being an outed wolf, it’s the only actual scum read I have right now that involves actual reasoning
its terrible reasoning and involves looking into irrelevant things so deeply you can't see the forest for the trees

my question is something i (and every other player in the game) would ask as either villager or a wolf. its a perfectly neutral question asked to gain understanding of the current state of the game.

reading into this is like reading tea leaves. you wanna click buttons, be my guest.

having tedxtr act like he's all clever for voting me because there's a 25% chance he could be right and have gotten in on the ground floor is just stupid, and it's insulting that you think it would be at all productive regardless of my role

and i wouldve got away with it too if it wasnt for you meddling kids

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:25 am**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:17 am
cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:14 am like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:24 pm oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx
mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?
is this for real cuz like it feels like pure bullshit lol
yeah it's stupid but also real maybe? idk

also it feels like you're allergic to direct engagement.

i'm trying to find evidence for my gut but maybe it's just not there. certainly nobody really seems to concur with me.

i mean of course i respect your game, we've played turbos, popcorn, i watched champs... we've talked strategy. I know ur smart lol.

Also it was half "welcome to the game" hype so yeah dont take it so seriously yeezus.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:25 am**

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:24 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:18 am I had one more concern about outed wolf that I sort of brushed over.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 6:49 pm What's the radishes votes for? Fluff posting too much?
This is a leading question. He answers his own inquiry in such a way that the conversation is automatically being drawn further toward a negative perception of Radishes. If he left it at just the first part, it would look like a genuine question about the status of a wagon. But when you add the second question, it just becomes a condemnation of Radish's fluff posts which may or may not have existed. This makes the first question seem insincere and irrelevant; outed wolf was not asking it because he was curious, he was asking because he wanted to contribute to the negative perception against Radishes.

Ted called him out on this, and his response was an emotionally charged rejection of ted's entire position, which I can read as a player who feels they've been "caught for the wrong reasons." I do not need to read it that way, but I can:

Spoiler: show
outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:10 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:09 pm Also, Visor’s “Was Radishes just fluff posting too much” reeked, it’s one of the wolf tactics where they just undermine a read so that when someone points out the actual reasoning, he can go “Hmmm yeah this seems alright, think I’m voting there”

It’s okay we can get em next time
how is this undermining compared to asking a question. particularly when i have not been around for the last 10 hours or so and the wagon didn't exist then afaict.

outed wolf wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:16 pm
tedxtr wrote: ↑Fri Jun 26, 2020 7:11 pm I feel very strong on outed wolf being an outed wolf, it’s the only actual scum read I have right now that involves actual reasoning
its terrible reasoning and involves looking into irrelevant things so deeply you can't see the forest for the trees

my question is something i (and every other player in the game) would ask as either villager or a wolf. its a perfectly neutral question asked to gain understanding of the current state of the game.

reading into this is like reading tea leaves. you wanna click buttons, be my guest.

having tedxtr act like he's all clever for voting me because there's a 25% chance he could be right and have gotten in on the ground floor is just stupid, and it's insulting that you think it would be at all productive regardless of my role

and i wouldve got away with it too if it wasnt for you meddling kids

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:25 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:23 am GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

wat

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:27 am**

APAGUE SU VOTO CAYVIE SOY PUEBLO JERK FACE

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:28 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:23 am GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE

it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:29 am**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:23 am GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE
it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

Who else are you considering voting for?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:29 am**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:23 am GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE
it's just one vote*

*as far as you know

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:30 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:29 am
cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:23 am GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE
it's just one vote*

*as far as you know
Who else are you considering voting for?

tony

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:33 am**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:24 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:17 am
cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:14 am like it's stupid but i still feel like this is the wolfiest post in the macalogue, and it's the first one i saw

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Jun 29, 2020 10:24 pm oh man cayvie, can you solve the game for us plz thx
mac unless you've gone deep into my past, you've never seen me win a game other than champs, where i was wolfin. and popcorn, i guess.

what makes you remotely respect my towngame? i mean maybe this is just a "hey welcome to the syndicate, you're cool" post but idk. dunya's "hi" felt more based in her actual experience with me, y'know?
is this for real cuz like it feels like pure bullshit lol
yeah it's stupid but also real maybe? idk

also it feels like you're allergic to direct engagement.

i'm trying to find evidence for my gut but maybe it's just not there. certainly nobody really seems to concur with me.

I gave Mac a potato pass. I can't agree with you, legally, until Day 4.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:33 am**

master radishes also had a potato pass, look how that worked out

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:35 am**

the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:36 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:33 am master radishes also had a potato pass, look how that worked out

Not from me he didn't. You can count on a Long Con Spud Allowance.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:36 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:29 am
cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:23 am GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE
it's just one vote*

*as far as you know
Who else are you considering voting for?

probably outed wolf as well

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:36 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:35 am the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

No thank you.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:37 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:35 am the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

ok [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine it is.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:37 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:36 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:33 am master radishes also had a potato pass, look how that worked out
Not from me he didn't. You can count on a Long Con Spud Allowance.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:37 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:35 am the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine

[VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:37 am**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:35 am the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine
ok [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine it is.

lol

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:38 am**

shouldve called myself outed villager

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:38 am**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:30 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:29 am
cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:28 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:23 am GET YOUR VOTE OFF MY CAYVIE IM TOWN YOU JERKFACE
it's just one vote*

*as far as you know
Who else are you considering voting for?
tony

I thought I found his progression today towny, but then I looked at the third page of his ISO and I don't find it towny at all. I'm not sure when moth claimed a red peek, did it put him in that mode? The only post I really found to be towny was

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:55 pm Actually if anyone has a power that allows them to see other's stats there are some really cool situations we can force wolves into

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:38 am**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:37 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:35 am the outed wolf wagon is boring lets do this again

[VOTE: lissa] aubergine
ok [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine it is.

ha good gag

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:38 am**

outed wolf wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:38 am shouldve called myself outed villager

I feel your pain.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am**

Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

you are like normal sloonei except brain damaged, what's up man?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am**

I will join this OW locomotive. [VOTE: outed wolf] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:40 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.

Why is it impossible?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:43 am**

its like sloobot is defective and just regurgitating all of his usual stuff out of context and at high speed

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:43 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.
you are like normal sloonei except brain damaged, what's up man?

I exploded.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:43 am**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:43 am its like sloobot is defective and just regurgitating all of his usual stuff out of context and at high speed

error error

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:40 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.
Why is it impossible?

Wilgy had lots of votes. Marcher had lots of votes. Turnip Head got the boot.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 am**

Mac. come and join Essence. This party is slammin'.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:45 am**

that was a "note to self" post because i'm too tired to look into it now and should probably go to sleep soon, OKAY? beep boop.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:45 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 am Mac. come and join Essence. This party is slammin'.

Pull up a groove and get fabulous.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:46 am**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:40 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.
Why is it impossible?
Wilgy had lots of votes. Marcher had lots of votes. Turnip Head got the boot.

Three town. One dies. It could easily be that. There are lots of villagers around. Questioning whether that is "possible" is

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:48 am**

I'm going to bed too.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:49 am**

all of essence going to bed at the same time

hot

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:50 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:49 am all of essence going to bed at the same time

hot

The essential bedtime.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:51 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:46 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 am
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:40 am
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:39 am Question to be resolved: Is it possible after Day 2 that both DrWilgy and Marcher Jovian are town?

I'll try to answer this for myself at some point before day's end. I won't be here for the deadline again.
Why is it impossible?
Wilgy had lots of votes. Marcher had lots of votes. Turnip Head got the boot.
Three town. One dies. It could easily be that. There are lots of villagers around. Questioning whether that is "possible" is

I am asking if it is possible. The answer might be yes. It is something explore.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:54 am**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:44 am Mac. come and join Essence. This party is slammin'.

essence does sound pretty hot ngl

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