The Syndicate

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm I thought Tims joked that they were the vig and gonna shoot walrus, not the other way around? unless im misremembering which is def possible

Did you get any feedback from your n1 target?

what's KP?

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pmwhat's KP?

kill power

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm I thought Tims joked that they were the vig and gonna shoot walrus, not the other way around? unless im misremembering which is def possible

Did you get any feedback from your n1 target?

what do you mean? like in the thread?

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:06 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pm Idk why mafia would bother blocking walrus tbh

Unless the Mafia is literally exactly who they threatened to shoot and I forget who that was

Flipped town tims

Then the Mafia definitely aren't roleblocking Walrus should they have been all that compelled to even kill them.

Was the Mafia kill commuted to Walrus or something?

Not by BT

My assumption is mafia thought walrus would shoot tims and clear themselves n1 (since that's never a mafia vig shot on n1), and walrus holstered

Only thing that makes any sense to me

Unless the team contains TPic and an MUer that's default scared of vigs for some reason, maybe

Bottom Text has fallen into a hole today in terms of solving and has just been shit posting and talking about how town they are.

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:09 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm I thought Tims joked that they were the vig and gonna shoot walrus, not the other way around? unless im misremembering which is def possible

Did you get any feedback from your n1 target?

what do you mean? like in the thread?

host response

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm I thought Tims joked that they were the vig and gonna shoot walrus, not the other way around? unless im misremembering which is def possible

Tims did joke about that

Then walrus said something along the lines of "you can't possibly have a vig" or whatever and iirc pushed them

It seemed clear to me that walrus was probably going to shoot tims

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:09 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:06 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pm Idk why mafia would bother blocking walrus tbh

Unless the Mafia is literally exactly who they threatened to shoot and I forget who that was

Flipped town tims

Then the Mafia definitely aren't roleblocking Walrus should they have been all that compelled to even kill them.

Was the Mafia kill commuted to Walrus or something?

Not by BT

My assumption is mafia thought walrus would shoot tims and clear themselves n1 (since that's never a mafia vig shot on n1), and walrus holstered

Only thing that makes any sense to me

Unless the team contains TPic and an MUer that's default scared of vigs for some reason, maybe

Well it does seem like the players in this game largely view vigs as strong town pr so I guess can't rule out that they just fear killed the slot illogically.

I'm actually out now, peace and good vibes

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:10 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:09 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm I thought Tims joked that they were the vig and gonna shoot walrus, not the other way around? unless im misremembering which is def possible

Did you get any feedback from your n1 target?

what do you mean? like in the thread?

host response

we got a deleted message and then we were told the action failed

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:11 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:09 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:06 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:04 pm

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:03 pm Idk why mafia would bother blocking walrus tbh

Unless the Mafia is literally exactly who they threatened to shoot and I forget who that was

Flipped town tims

Then the Mafia definitely aren't roleblocking Walrus should they have been all that compelled to even kill them.

Was the Mafia kill commuted to Walrus or something?

Not by BT

My assumption is mafia thought walrus would shoot tims and clear themselves n1 (since that's never a mafia vig shot on n1), and walrus holstered

Only thing that makes any sense to me

Unless the team contains TPic and an MUer that's default scared of vigs for some reason, maybe

Well it does seem like the players in this game largely view vigs as strong town pr so I guess can't rule out that they just fear killed the slot illogically.

Yeah I guess thats fair

Julinook wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:11 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm I thought Tims joked that they were the vig and gonna shoot walrus, not the other way around? unless im misremembering which is def possible

Tims did joke about that

Then walrus said something along the lines of "you can't possibly have a vig" or whatever and iirc pushed them

It seemed clear to me that walrus was probably going to shoot tims

thats actually one of the few instances where it is correct to shoot n1 so that they didn't indicates they probably just forgot to submit their na

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:12 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:10 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:09 pm

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm

Mana wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:08 pm I thought Tims joked that they were the vig and gonna shoot walrus, not the other way around? unless im misremembering which is def possible

Did you get any feedback from your n1 target?

what do you mean? like in the thread?

host response

we got a deleted message and then we were told the action failed

I believe u

[VOTE: tspic] aubergine

Going with the last to claim roleblocker claim

wow that killed the thread lol

So , all mech bullshit down the drain, my PoE on reads is... literally just Mana tr.

Which is nice because they're both individually wolfy, and having my reads at five towny players and two wolfy players implies I'm doing something right, but also the team makes no sense. It would mean van hellbussed her whole team D1. I could definitely see both Tim and hk signing up for a D1 bus, especially once they had already started taking a lot of heat without van's help, but Mana? van was the whole damn reason the Mana scumreads snowballed as much as they did. That's not to mention the constant question of why the fuck would you bus and janitor your partner? Ultimately van did end on BT, but she still joined in at the height of the TAT dogpile.

So either van YOLO'd the bussing as hard as possible or I messed up somewhere.

The possible saving grace for this world is that van didn't really follow through on either. When it came time, she ended on both counterwagons, and in particular she pushed FK through hard. If I turn my head and squint, I could see her not planning on either of her Mana or TAT pushes going through.

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:10 pm Bottom Text has fallen into a hole today in terms of solving and has just been shit posting and talking about how town they are.

i don't think this is entirely accurate but im also not really sure what to say anymore

i feel like everything is wrong and while i still think it just means nutella/alison is a wolf im promising myself to not pursue that today unless i can make a logical case for it

and i know i won't do that

this entire gamethread is a fucking mech talk and im not really a fan of it right now

cue vanity saying "oh katze mechanics" but no, this is beyond that really

combine this all with general "being busier today" and "holy shit we've posted way too much today lets conserve our posts" and yeah, idk what to say, when to say it, and how to say it. call it wolfy, idc.

maybe mana is a villager, i don't know. im still waiting for more from them so i can send esooa on that.

your slots my most confident townread at this point. after that it's a bit of a warzone. maybe you're pocketing me, but that only really makes sense if you plan to do some sorta tier 180 on me tomorrow or if this is a 3 wolf world. because im undeniably the easiest slot to ML right now. i have little going for me, and a lot against me.

idk anymore, man

game hard.

So it's EOD. Probs should be more posts eh?

oof

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:04 pm So it's EOD. Probs should be more posts eh?

its not EOD and also you're back on the wrong account again

dw though I am working on posts gonna have some sick reads real soon gonna make this thread all lively

I swear it said Tuesday 9.30am and then Mandela Effected me.

(and by sick reads I mean probably very wrong but at least it will be something)

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:40 pm So , all mech bullshit down the drain, my PoE on reads is... literally just Mana tr.

Which is nice because they're both individually wolfy, and having my reads at five towny players and two wolfy players implies I'm doing something right, but also the team makes no sense. It would mean van hellbussed her whole team D1. I could definitely see both Tim and hk signing up for a D1 bus, especially once they had already started taking a lot of heat without van's help, but Mana? van was the whole damn reason the Mana scumreads snowballed as much as they did. That's not to mention the constant question of why the fuck would you bus and janitor your partner? Ultimately van did end on BT, but she still joined in at the height of the TAT dogpile.

So either van YOLO'd the bussing as hard as possible or I messed up somewhere.

The possible saving grace for this world is that van didn't really follow through on either. When it came time, she ended on both counterwagons, and in particular she pushed FK through hard. If I turn my head and squint, I could see her not planning on either of her Mana or TAT pushes going through.

i mean i don't even know what to say to you at this point. i've told you your tunnel is bad and you still have yet to reconsider on my alignment since you initially wolfread me. if i'm being "individually wolfy", then i should've been voted out long ago. but turns out, i haven't. and this isn't me trying to taunt you, it's me trying to give you a wake up call that this read is in fact bad because almost no one agreed with you, up until today where it's mostly for our claim. and while x1 commuter might be a wolfy role, i know i'm a villager and i can't change what i was randed. i didn't even want to claim because our role is essentially useless at this point because wolves should never be killing us. i'm also going to continue to maintain that nanook's read is incomprehensible because it seems like he's assuming that every bit of thought process in a single post is stationary, when clearly posts are allowed to show thought process and progression and solving.

anyways, i'll give you some of my "meta" if you'll take it seriously. i used to not bus at all way back, but i've become accustomed to bus my teammates whenever i see fit. in fact, in spec chat invitational i actually spent a decent chunk of time pushing on both of my teammates. in the recent pokemon black and white light game, i pretty much didn't bus at all, other than shading and voting on my partner, but i ALWAYS made it a point to try and not end on my partner at eod. that's what i like doing: distancing from my partners, and then trying to find any excuse i can to try and vote elsewhere. this isn't necessarily a consistent meta; i wouldn't say that any time i rand wolf i play in a consistent fashion, because i... don't really? it all revolves around how i'm looking at the thread and how i think i can reach my wincon, whether it's townreading my partners for being villagery or trying to pocket other villagers.

also i want to reiteration this again: i did try and vote two and through at eod. you can check, i made the vote in the thread and i ended up voting too late. i've explained why too: on mu, usually the vote locks at :01, and it locks here at :00. i'm unfamiliar with that because i've only played one other game here, but let it be known that i did absolutely try and vote two and through there over bottom text. as well, i wasn't even the one who voted bottom text, that was mist. when it came down to it, she told me she was fine with me voting two and through, so i attempted to switch because i still thought two and through was a wolf.

yeah eod should be tomorrow

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:50 pm

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:48 pm BT is obvious Town.
Also if T&T is Scum it spews BT as Town because BT said at EoD1 “I’m scum” as a joke and T&T responded with “me too!”

-Toopy

Good point

Voting mana

also this spew read is pretty ridiculous and the fact that tspic agreed with it in the first place is baffling to me

two and through responding to bottom text there is more indicative of two and through's alignment and not bottom text's alignment; that's not exactly how spew reads work. it usually depends on how wolves approach other slots, and not just some random agreement with another slot being a wolf. on top of that... hollow and tim can easily be cheeky enough to make that post if bottom text actually is their partner. in reality though, it means nothing and trying to act as though it means something is stretching.

ftr any leftover tinfoil i have on poop explosions is gone. mac's just village here.

i'm not even that against killing mana here ftr. my poe is bottom text/tspic/mana ftr. i think everyone else is village and if that only contains 1 wolf, my only other idea is julinook is wolfing.

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:16 pm ftr any leftover tinfoil i have on poop explosions is gone. mac's just village here.

you know that was c4 you replied to right?

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:21 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:16 pm ftr any leftover tinfoil i have on poop explosions is gone. mac's just village here.

you know that was c4 you replied to right?

yeah i knew. i had a feeling c4 was just wrongtunneling me as a villager and even though i was extremely confident you were village already, your burst of posting cemented it because to me, that just looks like how you peruse the thread, throw out reads, and evaluate stuff as a villager.

technically the poll *does* stay open through the minute of :00

occasionally hosts are unaware of this and lock the thread at the beginning of :00 but as long as the thread is unlocked the poll works until the end of the minute same as on mu

if you voted in the minute of :00 it should have gone through


nbd tho

i just voted too late due habit, i don't really want to talk about it anymore. it's not really ai.

mac was selling me on tspic and c4 didnt even acknowledge the possibility lmao

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:25 pm i just voted too late due habit, i don't really want to talk about it anymore. it's not really ai.

i mean im saying you literally didnt unless dunya locked the thread prematurely

made keeps saying hes gonna be ultra mega mc towny face and then not doing that

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:26 pm made keeps saying hes gonna be ultra mega mc towny face and then not doing that

his ultra towny plan is sending me in with all my inexperience to ask dumb questions and make bad reads and prove that we're town

van why this attitude when I'm actively finding reasons you're town smh

van's townreads on us have pretty regularly seemed counter-agenda. That's one of the main reasons Mac had to townread van. Just after that festering bit of paranoia around our slot from van, which was probably her trying to widen her box if she's a wolf, suddenly solidifying that townread is pretty heavily against the plan.

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:15 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:50 pm

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:48 pm BT is obvious Town.
Also if T&T is Scum it spews BT as Town because BT said at EoD1 “I’m scum” as a joke and T&T responded with “me too!”

-Toopy

Good point

Voting mana

also this spew read is pretty ridiculous and the fact that tspic agreed with it in the first place is baffling to me

two and through responding to bottom text there is more indicative of two and through's alignment and not bottom text's alignment; that's not exactly how spew reads work. it usually depends on how wolves approach other slots, and not just some random agreement with another slot being a wolf. on top of that... hollow and tim can easily be cheeky enough to make that post if bottom text actually is their partner. in reality though, it means nothing and trying to act as though it means something is stretching.

FTR I agree

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:39 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:15 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:50 pm

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:48 pm BT is obvious Town.
Also if T&T is Scum it spews BT as Town because BT said at EoD1 “I’m scum” as a joke and T&T responded with “me too!”

-Toopy

Good point

Voting mana

also this spew read is pretty ridiculous and the fact that tspic agreed with it in the first place is baffling to me

two and through responding to bottom text there is more indicative of two and through's alignment and not bottom text's alignment; that's not exactly how spew reads work. it usually depends on how wolves approach other slots, and not just some random agreement with another slot being a wolf. on top of that... hollow and tim can easily be cheeky enough to make that post if bottom text actually is their partner. in reality though, it means nothing and trying to act as though it means something is stretching.

FTR I agree

...then what was the good point in that post?

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:27 pm [VOTE: tspic] aubergine

Get this bs outta here

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:39 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:39 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:15 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:50 pm

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:48 pm BT is obvious Town.
Also if T&T is Scum it spews BT as Town because BT said at EoD1 “I’m scum” as a joke and T&T responded with “me too!”

-Toopy

Good point

Voting mana

also this spew read is pretty ridiculous and the fact that tspic agreed with it in the first place is baffling to me

two and through responding to bottom text there is more indicative of two and through's alignment and not bottom text's alignment; that's not exactly how spew reads work. it usually depends on how wolves approach other slots, and not just some random agreement with another slot being a wolf. on top of that... hollow and tim can easily be cheeky enough to make that post if bottom text actually is their partner. in reality though, it means nothing and trying to act as though it means something is stretching.

FTR I agree

...then what was the good point in that post?

I didn’t say it

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:39 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 7:15 pm

TonyStarkPlaysItCool wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:50 pm

Toopy and Binoo wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 4:48 pm BT is obvious Town.
Also if T&T is Scum it spews BT as Town because BT said at EoD1 “I’m scum” as a joke and T&T responded with “me too!”

-Toopy

Good point

Voting mana

also this spew read is pretty ridiculous and the fact that tspic agreed with it in the first place is baffling to me

two and through responding to bottom text there is more indicative of two and through's alignment and not bottom text's alignment; that's not exactly how spew reads work. it usually depends on how wolves approach other slots, and not just some random agreement with another slot being a wolf. on top of that... hollow and tim can easily be cheeky enough to make that post if bottom text actually is their partner. in reality though, it means nothing and trying to act as though it means something is stretching.

FTR I agree

are you the other head from the one that agreed with toopy before?

Yes I’m tsp and make only good reads

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:35 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 1:17 pm ehhh tspic's posts are villagery today though, including how their read on two and through and toopy and binoo being different alignments. i don't know what to make of this.

also the fact that bottom text did not receive feedback on if their action was blocked is noted, but i don't really know how those types of mechanics work on the syndicate. in my experience, you're only know if you're blocked if you have an action that gives you feedback.

I don't think they're being villagery. TSP has been piloting mostly and is well within his range.

Tsp has not

MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:51 pm

trans rights wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 2:37 pm interested in seeing what mac thinks of tspic's current posts. i might sideline what i think about that slot until then.

posts are a mix of exceedingly townie and scummy

last to claim read plus poe plus their claim being roleblocker is mass red flags tho

my head is townie jpic's head is scummy ignore that this is our wolf meta because poe being a red flag is stupid and last to claim read is also stupid given it's day three and /no one/ should have claimed

Akemi Hazelnut wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 5:59 pm What if TSPIC is the mafia roleblocker and blocked Walrus to stop the vig shot from going off

One-shot vigs should always fire N1. The only claims in the room that would stop a shot cold are nook and TSPIC.

Either Walrus holstered (which makes no sense), they shot me (which also makes no sense), or TSPIC blocked them and claimed holstered.

don't think that account always shoots n1

Poop Explosions wrote: ↑Mon May 10, 2021 6:13 pm [VOTE: tspic] aubergine

Going with the last to claim roleblocker claim

if you're mac you should be speed chopped for this

there was like a 40 minute gap in between my posts there and no one said anything and my hands are freezing