The Syndicate

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:20 am**

Here’s the thing: today could conceivably be MYLO if things click into place for mafia. I think we all have to solidify and form cohesive reads. Towncore needs to be more towncore.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:21 am**

Those that read NAA as town: Why? Please show your work.

Those that read Wilgy as town: Why? Please show your work.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:23 am**

It’s very hard for me to scumread TSP without also scumreding jack as wolf too. I have them invariably linked for how they have shielded each other and given terrible reads all game.
TSP: jack is town unless I’m being pocketed
Jack: tsp is obvtown, just trust me. I can read him.
Also jack: dunya is obvwolf, just trust me. I can read her.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:38 am**

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am**

TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am**

Further, the amount of people that continue to be up in arms about sig not being dead lead me to further believe sig is just a lame fuck town

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:40 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am Further, the amount of people that continue to be up in arms about sig not being dead lead me to further believe sig is just a lame fuck town

GRRR &lame DUCK town

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:41 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.

Why don’t you respond to direct questions I’m asking if you instead of just more associative reads without any supportive substance

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:41 am**

Also lol case in point RE: sig

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:42 am**

The mislynches this game haven’t all been errant town making unfortunate reads. There have been too many voices steering the thread and sewing chaos and doubt in particular reads that it seems very unlikely that the 4th wolf is a 0 poster

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:46 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:41 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
Why don’t you respond to direct questions I’m asking if you instead of just more associative reads without any supportive substance

Because if I'm right and it's Urist + LP + 2 then we lose

If you're right and it's jack + tsp then we lose

The game state requires one of us to be mafia in order to win.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:46 am**

We're so far at odds on our reads, I don't see any point engaging unless you or I independently come around. I won't have much time today.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:49 am**

Oh yeah, I forgot wilgy in your reads, also at odds.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:51 am**

I think town is getting steamrolled as well if both HK and LP are both Druids.

I am also a Druid

If I could go back and redo N0, seeing Druid in action, it’s just incredibly unbalanced in comparison to the other roles and I wouldn’t have picked it. I just figured no one else would. ‘Twas wrong.

Paladin 1 is an instant use, and can be used in conjunction with others in the same cycle. AND you get a CP for successfully healing. It wouldn’t surprise me if TSP were instahealed by a player just to get that extra CP, regardless of if they found him guilty.
Warrior 1 is super useful with 95% success rate and can kill by N3.

This is all fruitless on D3 and should have been touched on more D1 or something so whatever

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:51 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:46 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:41 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
Why don’t you respond to direct questions I’m asking if you instead of just more associative reads without any supportive substance
Because if I'm right and it's Urist + LP + 2 then we lose

If you're right and it's jack + tsp then we lose

The game state requires one of us to be mafia in order to win.

I don’t understand this logic. Can you break it down for me like I’m a dog?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:54 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:46 am We're so far at odds on our reads, I don't see any point engaging unless you or I independently come around. I won't have much time today.

Well you just calling a watermelon a vegetable isn’t helping.

I’m open to changing my views, but you are seemingly obstinate in helping town. Ergo, why should I just trust your surface level reads?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:56 am**

Has TSP been healed and do we think we should help him?

I'm at a tournament today and will be in and out. JoH/Urist votes plz.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:59 am**

Also the easiest strategy that I just thought of:
Stay Warrior 1. Successfully attack N1 and N2.

You suddenly have 3 CP by N3 to spend. Put it all into Warrior and instantly become Warrior 4.
Free NK on top of factional kill, albeit at 55% success rate.

Why spend CP anywhere else?

Game is actually broken. If Druid had a 100% success rate I’d still take the Warrior only path. And it’s only broken because town didn’t all do the same thing, and Mafia could plan their actions.

I’m very certain this is what has been devised.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:00 am**

I will give the correct mechanical response to tsp at 10 minutes before EOD, if I don't forget.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:00 am**

I’ve taken Druid 2 twice now and I’ve hit nothing btw. So I’m essentially a waste of space.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:02 am**

Checking in briefly to say I was probably blocked last night (or just rolled a critical miss, but probably the former), so whoever did that is rude.

I'll be back later today.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:03 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:00 am I will give the correct mechanical response to tsp at 10 minutes before EOD, if I don't forget.

So 10 minutes before I hammer you?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:03 am**

I’m pretty deflated rn not gonna lie.

I wish I cared less about winning the game

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:02 am Checking in briefly to say I was probably blocked last night (or just rolled a critical miss, but probably the former), so whoever did that is rude.

I'll be back later today.

What did you {try to} do last night?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:05 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:02 am Checking in briefly to say I was probably blocked last night (or just rolled a critical miss, but probably the former), so whoever did that is rude.

I'll be back later today.
What did you {try to} do last night?

[redacted]

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:07 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:51 am I think town is getting steamrolled as well if both HK and LP are both Druids.

I am also a Druid

If I could go back and redo N0, seeing Druid in action, it’s just incredibly unbalanced in comparison to the other roles and I wouldn’t have picked it. I just figured no one else would. ‘Twas wrong.

Paladin 1 is an instant use, and can be used in conjunction with others in the same cycle. AND you get a CP for successfully healing. It wouldn’t surprise me if TSP were instahealed by a player just to get that extra CP, regardless of if they found him guilty.
Warrior 1 is super useful with 95% success rate and can kill by N3.

This is all fruitless on D3 and should have been touched on more D1 or something so whatever

Mod just confirmed that you can only use one action a cycle, so I take back everything I said here.

The healing is probably not a good play.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:08 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:05 am
Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:04 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:02 am Checking in briefly to say I was probably blocked last night (or just rolled a critical miss, but probably the former), so whoever did that is rude.

I'll be back later today.
What did you {try to} do last night?

[redacted]

Yeah, I kinda feel we’re past the point of confidentiality here and need to be a bit more urgent

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am**

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.

If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:13 am**

Has anyone claimed the poison on TSP?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:14 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.

I don’t think mafia ever do poison. It’s inefficient in a team. I think for sure this is a town action on ?tsp

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:14 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:13 am Has anyone claimed the poison on TSP?

Nope. And it wasn’t you, me or LP
And urist is sure acting like it wasn’t him

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:15 am**

Maybe I'm wrong, but my assumption is that if was used by town, they would claim it

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:16 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:15 am Maybe I'm wrong, but my assumption is that if was used by town, they would claim it

Well.

dya hasn’t checked in.

Also, the day just started

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:16 am**

Tsp can you post that poison meme?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:18 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:16 am Tsp can you post that poison meme?

This?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:20 am**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Tue Oct 20, 2020 10:54 pm

This quote is from Escape from Russia Mafia

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:21 am**

I poisoned tsp and I'll take the 55% on Urist or LP tonight.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:21 am**

Quick TSP, kill sig to make this a true reprise

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:22 am**

I would have killed Sig, but I didn't understand the CP situation on N1 which is even more unbelievable because I've played this set up before and didn't realize at all.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:22 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:14 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.
I don’t think mafia ever do poison. It’s inefficient in a team. I think for sure this is a town action on ?tsp

I kind of agree. The corollory is that apparently you can heal ONLY if you're a lv1 paladin. Levels 2+ lose the ability to heal. Which is pretty annoying because if that were more clear in the rules upfront I would have specced differently.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:23 am**

Actually, if I read the set up and thought about it, I would have cut 3x and then druid

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:23 am**

It's possible the setup changed.

Also why did you poison tsp?

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:23 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:23 am It's possible the setup changed.

Also why did you poison tsp?

Regretting getting caught up in the momentum of CFD with Syn, so I ended up revenge poisoning.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:24 am**

The counter wagon

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:24 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.

I don't understand this step in logic

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:25 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:24 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.
I don't understand this step in logic

He's trying to see what I'm thinking, but it's not that. Also, yes Urist possible wolf.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:26 am**

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:03 am I’m pretty deflated rn not gonna lie.

I wish I cared less about winning the game

Just have fun brother. That's what I'm doin.

Vibin.

Voting [VOTE: JoH] aubergine. That ain't sitting right.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:27 am**

I'm not tilted yet either, but won't be able to fully immerse myself today until later

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:28 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:24 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.
I don't understand this step in logic

Why would wolves poison someone when they can kill someone?
It's moot speculation anyway unless naa is mafia, which i doubt.

Posted: **Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:36 am**

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:28 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:24 am
Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 11:09 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:39 am TSP is only wolf if Sig is also wolf, that's my associative read, if Sig is wolf, we deserve to lose. We've had so many opportunities to kill Sig in the night.
If this is about the poison, the warrior who poisoned him used war1 on n1 and then skipped straight to war3 on n2.

I think the associative to make is that if tsp was poisoned by wolves, then sig is mafia.
I don't understand this step in logic
Why would wolves poison someone when they can kill someone?
It's moot speculation anyway unless naa is mafia, which i doubt.

There are plenty of reasons that I won't dive into at this moment.

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