The Syndicate

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 2:41 pm**

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:39 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:38 pm Im confident she is matchmaker of sorts. Ive never seen a fruit vendor that targets two people.
What about Cupid though? That’s what she claimed and I quoted the info above this post.

It could be cupid too. I just wish it is matchmaker because then we'd have extra info which is both targets are from the same alignment.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 2:43 pm**

If Cupid needs their loves to survive the game, choosing JaggedJimmyJay is dubious.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 2:43 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:40 pm Which is funny because Owner suspects Tangy of being exactly 3p.

If we don’t believe Owner’s claim, she’s mafia. If we do believe her claim, she’s 3p. Either way, she’s scum.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 2:43 pm**

Actvscenei wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:43 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:40 pm Which is funny because Owner suspects Tangy of being exactly 3p.
If we don’t believe Owner’s claim, she’s mafia. If we do believe her claim, she’s 3p. Either way, she’s scum.

Indeed, she is still the chop.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 2:46 pm**

lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:39 pm @Allcrab Did yours include you or not?

It did not include me.

So 4 total

Me, you, 1 cafe player, 1 syn player

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 2:47 pm**

Allcrab wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:46 pm
lost monkey wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:39 pm @Allcrab Did yours include you or not?
It did not include me.

So 4 total

Me, you, 1 cafe player, 1 syn player

yeah cool.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 2:50 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:43 pm
Actvscenei wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:43 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 2:40 pm Which is funny because Owner suspects Tangy of being exactly 3p.
If we don’t believe Owner’s claim, she’s mafia. If we do believe her claim, she’s 3p. Either way, she’s scum.
Indeed, she is still the chop.

Even if she was the cupid it's best to yeet her now so the JJJ and Gavial become unloverized.

I just hope the dick shaped lollipops that kito sent me dont loverize me too.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:04 pm**

So, I'm towny af and I think everyone knows it after today with Owner and all that crap, so I think I'm a reasonably likely NK target. As such, I'm going to leave an updated reads list (people like Actv and Kito I think should be placed higher than they were on my last list, while people like Mac and Martin went down a bit) and a short legacy:

Tangrowth

Alison
Kito
lost monkey

Dana
Guillotine
Garden Gnome

Actvscenei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Sloonei
MacDougall
Long Con
Made*
hawkataine
Gavial
JaggedJimmyJay

MartinGG99
bad bunny
Allcrab

Sonny

Owner of a Lonely Heart

Seanzie
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*If Owner is 3p, Made's placement is correct. If Owner is scum, Made should be one tier, or maybe even two tiers higher.

Legacy if Owner flips scum: I think Sonny is a very good person to scrutinize in this case. I also think that if JJJ and Sloonei are alive in like 2-3 days, they should get a second look, ESPECIALLY SLOONEI. JJJ/Sloon is not something to chase tomorrow, but Sloon should be watched if he is alive towards the end.

Legacy if Owner flips 3p: idk? Probably still Sonny, but my feelings about that are much less strong if Owner is 3p.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:07 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:04 pm So, I'm towny af and I think everyone knows it after today with Owner and all that crap, so I think I'm a reasonably likely NK target. As such, I'm going to leave an updated reads list (people like Actv and Kito I think should be placed higher than they were on my last list, while people like Mac and Martin went down a bit) and a short legacy:

Tangrowth

Alison
Kito
lost monkey

Dana
Guillotine
Garden Gnome

Actvscenei
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

Sloonei
MacDougall
Long Con
Made*
hawkataine
Gavial
JaggedJimmyJay

MartinGG99
bad bunny
Allcrab

Sonny

Owner of a Lonely Heart

Seanzie

*If Owner is 3p, Made's placement is correct. If Owner is scum, Made should be one tier, or maybe even two tiers higher.

Legacy if Owner flips scum: I think Sonny is a very good person to scrutinize in this case. I also think that if JJJ and Sloonei are alive in like 2-3 days, they should get a second look, ESPECIALLY SLOONEI. JJJ/Sloon is not something to chase tomorrow, but Sloon should be watched if he is alive towards the end.

Legacy if Owner flips 3p: idk? Probably still Sonny, but my feelings about that are much less strong if Owner is 3p.
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Oh, and I guess:

Legacy if Owner flips town: Don't listen to anything I've said because I clearly have no idea what is going on and have been an anti-town influence this game.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:10 pm**

Everyone should

PREDICT

THAT

FLIP

mafia

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:21 pm**

CFD TANGY!

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:24 pm**

We might just be that bored. 16 vote wagons are unfortunate.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:24 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:21 pmCFD TANGY!

No one? No one? Oh, okay...

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:27 pm**

[VOTE: LongCon] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:28 pm**

This vote is my legacy

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:28 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:24 pm We might just be that bored. 16 vote wagons are unfortunate.

Well Guillo just hopped over to LC, so now it is only a 15 vote wagon, so definitely not nearly as unfortunate.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:29 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:24 pm We might just be that bored. 16 vote wagons are unfortunate.
Well Guillo just hopped over to LC, so now it is only a 15 vote wagon, so definitely not nearly as unfortunate.

Flash wagons are anti-town

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:32 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:29 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:28 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:24 pm We might just be that bored. 16 vote wagons are unfortunate.
Well Guillo just hopped over to LC, so now it is only a 15 vote wagon, so definitely not nearly as unfortunate.
Flash wagons are anti-town

But oh so tempting and fun at times...

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:33 pm**

Flash wagon Guillotine for his flash wagon on Long Con

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:34 pm**

@Owner of a Lonely Heart ended the day with the most votes. You have ~26 more minutes to chat until twilight ends, the thread is locked, and you'll see a result.

Final vote tally below.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:34 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:33 pm Flash wagon Guillotine for his flash wagon on Long Con

Do it! Do it! I dare you!

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:35 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:34 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:33 pm Flash wagon Guillotine for his flash wagon on Long Con
Do it! Do it! I dare you!

[VOTE: Guillo] aubergine

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:35 pm**

Omg this dumb twilight phase. =(

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:36 pm**

@Owner of a Lonely Heart any last minute lolcatting?

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:37 pm**

I know we're bored, but I was serious though. I'd appreciate if folks could just make a flat prediction for Owner's alignment when she flips.

Another twilight topic: who else is mafia? There are at least three more in all likelihood.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:38 pm**

I think it would have been funny if Dizzy and Marmot would have included both twilight and open night phase, because then Twilight would literally just be there to torture us until the flip.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:38 pm**

@Owner of a Lonely Heart, whatever you may flip, it's always a pleasure to have you here! I'm stoked you got to be a part of this crossover game. I'm pretty sure I discovered PerC through you in the first place.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:40 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:37 pm I know we're bored, but I was serious though. I'd appreciate if folks could just make a flat prediction for Owner's alignment when she flips.

Another twilight topic: who else is mafia? There are at least three more in all likelihood.

I'd guess Owner is mafia, but I won't be that surprised if 3p since her claims really could be one of those 3p's people were talking about.

Sonny. Other people in a redish color on my list. Maybe a purple as well.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:41 pm**

If I ask myself: with Owner eliminated, who looks worst among the remaining players?

My answer is easily bad bunny. I'm willing to honor Allcrab's vouch at least to an extent, so if I look for three more that make sense to me off hand:

hawkataine, Garden Gnome, Sonny

Long Con is a decent wild card. Made is still a bit of an unresolved phenomenon. Kito would be a decently "deep" possibility. Martin needs to make posts.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:41 pm**

I'm betting mafia, if for whatever reason she's town it's because we have an actv/hawk scum team.

Hope you guys are ready for that one. It's only slightly worse than my sloonei case.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:41 pm**

Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:38 pm I think it would have been funny if Dizzy and Marmot would have included both twilight and open night phase, because then Twilight would literally just be there to torture us until the flip.

I wouldn't have signed up for open night phase. Tried it once, never again.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:42 pm**

Kito wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:41 pm I'm betting mafia, if for whatever reason she's town it's because we have an actv/hawk scum team.

Hope you guys are ready for that one. It's only slightly worse than my sloonei case.

I wouldn't find that pairing to be a crazy one. Could be.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:43 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:41 pm
Seanzie wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:38 pm I think it would have been funny if Dizzy and Marmot would have included both twilight and open night phase, because then Twilight would literally just be there to torture us until the flip.
I wouldn't have signed up for open night phase. Tried it once, never again.

Yeah, open nights are rough. I've played a few, and I just find myself telling everyone that I'm just barely going to post at night if at all. Mafia is too intense to play 24/7.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:44 pm**

So last twilight I claimed that I kill all visitors, I lied. I only kill visitors with killing actions.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:45 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:41 pm If I ask myself: with Owner eliminated, who looks worst among the remaining players?

My answer is easily bad bunny. I'm willing to honor Allcrab's vouch at least to an extent, so if I look for three more that make sense to me off hand:

hawkataine, Garden Gnome, Sonny

Long Con is a decent wild card. Made is still a bit of an unresolved phenomenon. Kito would be a decently "deep" possibility. Martin needs to make posts.

GTH I don't think it is Garden Gnome. I did move her slightly down on my more recent list because I wasn't feeling as confident about this as I was yesterday, but I'd still guess town, and she is a common ML, so be careful.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:45 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:42 pm
Kito wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:41 pm I'm betting mafia, if for whatever reason she's town it's because we have an actv/hawk scum team.

Hope you guys are ready for that one. It's only slightly worse than my sloonei case.
I wouldn't find that pairing to be a crazy one. Could be.

Only works in the event of town!owner imo, maaaaaybe 3p!owner but that kind of opens up every possibility anyway.

Has bunny mentioned allcrab? Even once? If not then the one-sided buddying looks very much unaligned to me, so likely T/T cuz fable isn't usually wrong tbh

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:46 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:44 pm So last twilight I claimed that I kill all visitors, I lied. I only kill visitors with killing actions.

LOL I didn't even read last twilight and targeted you anyway

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm**

Well guess its been said out loud now, rip

The reason owner probably isn't mafia with seth is cause if she's mafia seth and jay are probably lovered and you don't do that with seth and jay if seth is mafia lol

If there's a protective role they should rng between seth jay and tangy probably

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm**

Other things:

If there is an alignment cop, check MacDougall please.

If there is watcher, watch Galvian

If there is a tracker: Track Bad Bunny

If there is a doctor: Protect between Tangy, JJJ and Nanook

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm**

bad bunny wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 7:25 am Also here's where im at for the percy people, from towny to most scummy:

Seanzie
Actv
Hawk
Allcrab
Guillo
-----
Gnome
Sonny
Kito
---
Belzy
Lomo
Owner

Something like that theyre just GTH guesses mostly

If the names are ordered within tiers, then bad bunny vouches for Allcrab as well, if not necessarily to the same degree.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm**

Kito wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:45 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:42 pm
Kito wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:41 pm I'm betting mafia, if for whatever reason she's town it's because we have an actv/hawk scum team.

Hope you guys are ready for that one. It's only slightly worse than my sloonei case.
I wouldn't find that pairing to be a crazy one. Could be.
Only works in the event of town!owner imo, maaaaaybe 3p!owner but that kind of opens up every possibility anyway.

Has bunny mentioned allcrab? Even once? If not then the one-sided buddying looks very much unaligned to me, so likely T/T cuz fable isn't usually wrong tbh

I think they had some shallow interactions D1. Bunny asked for gifs from him, and posted a funny gift of Naked Snake getting killed by a crab.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:48 pm**

Kito wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:46 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:44 pm So last twilight I claimed that I kill all visitors, I lied. I only kill visitors with killing actions.
LOL I didn't even read last twilight and targeted you anyway

Smh, imagine if I was not lying... you'd be dead now.

Do people ever read anymore?

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:49 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm If there is an alignment cop, check MacDougall please.

Probably better options out there within the more consensus POE pools.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:49 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm If there is an alignment cop, check MacDougall please.
Probably better options out there within the more consensus POE pools.

No. The more cycles Macdougall survives, the more the chances that he is the deepwolf. Didn't you learn anything from Spiderverse?

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm**

Yeah don't check mac, check sloon if its a red flip check a low poster if its green

Or hawk, for that matter

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:48 pm
Kito wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:46 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:44 pm So last twilight I claimed that I kill all visitors, I lied. I only kill visitors with killing actions.
LOL I didn't even read last twilight and targeted you anyway
Smh, imagine if I was not lying... you'd be dead now.

Do people ever read anymore?

Not reading everything has served me fine for years thus far ¯\_ (ツ)_/¯ if you don't count pissing off several townies in the process anyway.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm Other things:

If there is an alignment cop, check MacDougall please.

If there is watcher, watch Galvian

If there is a tracker: Track Bad Bunny

If there is a doctor: Protect between Tangy, JJJ and Nanook

LOL no power roles for your sweet legacy read?

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:52 pm**

Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:49 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm If there is an alignment cop, check MacDougall please.
Probably better options out there within the more consensus POE pools.
No. The more cycles Macdougall survives, the more the chances that he is the deepwolf. Didn't you learn anything from Spiderverse?

So let him die Night 2.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:52 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:51 pm
Guillotine wrote: ↑Wed May 26, 2021 3:47 pm Other things:

If there is an alignment cop, check MacDougall please.

If there is watcher, watch Galvian

If there is a tracker: Track Bad Bunny

If there is a doctor: Protect between Tangy, JJJ and Nanook
LOL no power roles for your sweet legacy read?

Nah.

Posted: **Wed May 26, 2021 3:54 pm**

Actually there is a good argument to be made for cop checking a broadly town read player in this state of the game. Confirm them and continue murdering the POE pool. Do what you want, hypothetical cop.

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