The Syndicate

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 7:34 am**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:05 am My thoughts haven’t changed at all today, so if not Seanzie who I think it is, falcon>Ender>kami

I forgot about Ender’s role claim this morning when I wrote this, so I guess my thoughts have changed a little bit.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:10 am**

Music on, food ready, time taken.

Time to do some ISOing.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:27 am**

First ISOs, the scum team.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:41 am**

NAA Interactions with Kami:

Spoiler: show

NAA interactions with Falcon:

Spoiler: show

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:39 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:37 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:26 amHi fam
You suck for missing all of D1 except some ghost votes right at EOD.

What's your reasoning behind your votes, including on myself?
I wanted to demonstrate how easily your behavior can be dictated by another player in the game.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:45 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:42 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:39 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:37 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:26 amHi fam
You suck for missing all of D1 except some ghost votes right at EOD.

What's your reasoning behind your votes, including on myself?
I wanted to demonstrate how easily your behavior can be dictated by another player in the game.
It's a team game, so yeah. You proved that the circle's are round, and triangles have 3 sides.

What other self-evident truths do you have in store for us?
Epi probably stopped pushing you because he realizes that you are probably incapable of playing mafia, and therefore, have limited possibility to end up as a ML. What they probably failed to recognize is that everyone pretty much has the attention span of a gnat, they will end up with too many town reads, re-evaluate and then you become killable even though you can't play the game, and are an obvious read.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:54 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:50 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:45 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:42 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:39 am
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 10:37 am
NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 9:26 amHi fam
You suck for missing all of D1 except some ghost votes right at EOD.

What's your reasoning behind your votes, including on myself?
I wanted to demonstrate how easily your behavior can be dictated by another player in the game.
It's a team game, so yeah. You proved that the circle's are round, and triangles have 3 sides.

What other self-evident truths do you have in store for us?
Epi probably stopped pushing you because he realizes that you are probably incapable of playing mafia, and therefore, have limited possibility to end up as a ML. What they probably failed to recognize is that everyone pretty much has the attention span of a gnat, they will end up with too many town reads, re-evaluate and then you become killable even though you can't play the game, and are an obvious read.
Still upset you never got picked for dodgeball at recess, eh?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:14 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:13 pm People who are calling this game environment "toxic" never went to public school in the '80s and it shows

I actually agree (not sure about the 80s), but the only toxicity here are the people saying the game is toxic.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:44 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:43 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 12:20 pm Tactical sub outs are lame af
Why did you think HK was an outted wolf?
He was just mad that HK was outing himself as town. (hence that which must not be named)

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Mon Jul 26, 2021 1:37 pm @falcon45ca I would like to sincerely apologize for my behavior earlier. I thought you could handle it, and I was totally right.

I have brought shame to my family by violating the rules and regulations of respect, and I think you all deserve better than that. I am committed to bringing a better attitude to games and putting my best foot forward. I have brought great shame upon my country this day, and I regret to say that this is not the type of wound that can be healed overnight. I apologize to all of those who were negatively affected by my actions, and I vow to be more inclusive and understanding in the future. My friends, who have supported me through thick and thin... I have brought great shame on them as well. I hope we can re-conciliate and find a better tomorrow that is inclusive for all walks of life.

I would like to emphasize that I am very ashamed of my behavior, and I feel great sadness for having let you all down. I apologize to my co-workers, and everyone whom I have brought shame on in the past. The path to enlightenment is never easy, but it is a journey that I undertake willingly and with open arms. I am grateful to have been given a second chance, and to those moderators out there who believe in me, I say thank you. I will not let you down. I will continue my path to find righteousness and preach to all that I cross.

In life, and in death, I may spread the word. That mafia on the syndicate requires the utmost infallible character which I strive to be. I understand that I can not possibly attain such righteousness overnight, and this is going to be a lengthy process. I apologize in advance to all of those who I bring shame to in my road to recovery. I apologize especially to my family and friends, and to all of Leafs nation who have already suffered greatly. I must end my part in this curse and bring forth a brighter tomorrow. If I stray from my path, I ask to all that hold this gift of righteousness dear to heart, please remind me of my failings, and my everlasting quest of improvement.

To the countless villagers and wandering bards that I have offended in the past, note that you have been heard. I am doing everything within my power to improve... And though I may have no right to request a second chance with all of you, I beg that you open your hearts to the new me. I beg that you join with me, and carry the message of Syndicate to the far reaches of the world so that we may enjoy a better tomorrow... A prosperous and righteous future. I hope that one day, I will not bring such great shame on my loved ones and my country. All of NATO feels my pain today. Tomorrow, tomorrow will be a better day, with your help, we can transform this existence into something greater.

NAA interactions with Fingers:

Spoiler: show

Out of all the ISOs I think Fingers comes off the scummiest with NAA.

I really think if Falcon was w/w then there was not a calm wolfchat going on because it does not feel like they're seeing eye to eye.

Kami could fake those interactions but I'd tend more towards Fingers being the most likely off these posts.

(This is not a final decision, just keeping you all in the loop as to where I am up to.)

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:55 am**

God, reading through Alison's ISO I refuse to quote EVERY post she does with Kami.

It's like her entire ISO is Kami-centric.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:06 am**

I'm almost certain that Kami is rarely wolf. She's involved consistently with Transcend AND Alison. It would've had to be a massive wolf conversation theatre and somehow constant sus and arguments.

If Kami pulled that off when her last attempt at theatre I saw through very easily then...

Either she got a lot better suddenly at that specifically or it says more about Mac than it does about Kami =P

But I'm willing to play around this concept tbh.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:20 am**

So, situation is:

Seanzie is probably wolf but idk why he's slow rolling it giving I'm about to hammer him.

I'm going to hammer him.

But on the chance he flips town that's becoming lightly bigger:

Kami!w world:
High strung theatre with two of her wolf buddies and a few interactions with third. Heavily got pushed by Alison and Alison has put her into lead contention for being misexed multiple times. It means an agreed upon dynamic between Alison and Kami from almost straight away after she enters the thread.

Not impossible, but I'd be impressed.

Fingers!w world:
Suspicion from two wolf-partners early on. Weaker interactions than Kami but less attack/defend than Kami too. Transcend's early attempts to wolf-case and push her is a little surprising for w/w interactions but it could be agreed bus as well.

Falcon!w world:
Actually the most likely of the three. Has a lot of interaction with NAA compared to the other two, but other than that plays a low-score in both Alison and Transcend's interactions. Seems more likely to be the partner but there's some genuine stuff in the Falcon/NAA back and forth.

Honestly I'd be surprised if any of you all are mafia. I seriously still think Seanzie is.

But I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:21 am**

BECAUSE

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:21 am**

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:21 am**

[VOTE: Seanzie] aubergine

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:22 am**

@NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME

The hammer falls on Duskheim.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 9:23 am**

If this is green, good luck townies.

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:16 am**

Sean (3): sean, kami, ender
Not voting (2): falcon, fingers

Posted: **Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:22 am**

@Seanzie flips town!

You are Two Face! Congratulations.

You have no powers, you are town, you win by killing mafia. Glhf.

Day 6 will start at approximately 2pm EDT, August 4

@Enderwiggin
@Falcon45ca
@Fingersplints
@Kami

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:00 pm**

In the night! @EnderWiggin has died. He flips town:

You are Ra's al Ghul! Congratulations.

You have no powers, you are town, you win by killing mafia. Glhf.

Thats the default town role pm, but you have a pr! You're a JOAT, you have one track, one vanilla cop (returns whether player has a pr or not--mafia goon and vt both check as not pr), one loyal poison (the player poisoned will be announced at sod. If they are town, they will die at eod. If they are mafia, they will not die at eod). You may use each ability once, and you can only use one ability per night.

EOD is August 6, 2pm EDT. Hammer is at 2.

@Falcon45ca
@Fingersplints
@Kami

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:18 pm**

Alright, which of you 2 is scum?

I've got my theory, but I'd like to hear from you both

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:21 pm**

I’m not scum and I’m very disappointed that Seanzie wasn’t the last. Thought for sure this game would have been over by now.
Curious what your theory is

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:23 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:21 pm I’m not scum and I’m very disappointed that Seanzie wasn’t the last. Thought for sure this game would have been over by now.
Curious what your theory is

I know you think I'm Maf. Have you read anything that changes that opinion for you?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:23 pm**

I do think we should all hold our votes for a little bit. One town votes wrong, scum quickly jumps on it and it’s game over.

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:24 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:23 pm I do think we should all hold our votes for a little bit. One town votes wrong, scum quickly jumps on it and it’s game over.

Agreed

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:25 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:23 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:21 pm I’m not scum and I’m very disappointed that Seanzie wasn’t the last. Thought for sure this game would have been over by now.
Curious what your theory is
I know you think I'm Maf. Have you read anything that changes that opinion for you?

Haven’t reread anything since last day. I want to fairly evaluate both you and Kami

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:28 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:25 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:23 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:21 pm I’m not scum and I’m very disappointed that Seanzie wasn’t the last. Thought for sure this game would have been over by now.
Curious what your theory is
I know you think I'm Maf. Have you read anything that changes that opinion for you?
Haven’t reread anything since last day. I want to fairly evaluate both you and Kami

Fair enough. I'll let ya do some reading, and I'll do some of my own.

I did do some already yesterday after Sean's flip, which is why I've pretty much made up my mind who the last scum is, but I'm going to hold onto it for a bit

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:31 pm**

I'm 80% voting falcon, his tone has just been fake a majority of the game

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:35 pm**

the main reason i called trans/falcon mafia day 1 is because their interactions just seemed w/w and i'm pretty sure im just right

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:37 pm**

Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:42 pm i would say falcon is hard clear

What changed Kami?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:37 pm**

Kami wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:31 pm I'm 80% voting falcon, his tone has just been fake a majority of the game

The 20% is for if I want to vote finger & finger wants to vote Kami. Nice to leave yourself an out, eh?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:39 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:37 pm
Kami wrote: ↑Sat Jul 31, 2021 3:42 pm i would say falcon is hard clear
What changed Kami?

i decided your reaction to trans about making a plan in wolf chat was probably just a set up

It makes sense considering the only reason trans would feel the need to do that claim is to save you the current wagon, and himself since people were sussing him out next

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:39 pm**

Nobody has accused me of having fake tone in this game until now. Which posts of mine are fake Kami?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:40 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:37 pm
Kami wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:31 pm I'm 80% voting falcon, his tone has just been fake a majority of the game
The 20% is for if I want to vote finger & finger wants to vote Kami. Nice to leave yourself an out, eh?

I mean it's obvious you withheld your wolf read so you would be able to push either of us right?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:41 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:04 am
EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 3:03 am Rondo and me were both voting NAA with Trans.

I actually think I'm right on Rondo.
truth be told i got cold feet that his wagon was the only one taking off and unvoted before he got modkilled

We know now that they were partners. Who else did Tran have difficulty seeing as Maf?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:42 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:31 pm Kami is my top town read right now

What changed falcon?

LOL

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:43 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Wed Jul 28, 2021 6:26 pm if for some reason im killed @ night over esooa here's my legacy

esooa is obviously lock town and trust everything she says

kami is spewed V beyond all belief

sean is probably innocent here in most situations

syn is towny don't touch his slot until lylo

lynch the rest and it's probs gg

Really? Interesting

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:43 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 1:41 pm UNVOTE KAMI THIS FUCKING INSTANT

SHE IS OBVIOUS TOWN

I no longer read any of this as pocketing

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:44 pm**

Kami wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:42 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Mon Aug 02, 2021 5:31 pm Kami is my top town read right now
What changed falcon?

LOL

Sean flipped town.

Big difference between a read, and a hard clear tho, eh?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:45 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:08 am I tr kami more than finger and falcon but that's just Me.

Here's more teammate defense

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:45 pm**

So what’s the theory

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:45 pm**

The things I thought were fake was
1.I wouldn't kill Esooa she town reads me!!! Every wolf would kill the town roleblocker no matter what in that situation
2.You defending Alison when she already admitted she was a wolf, she literally was lolcating and u were saying "im not convinced" Just seemed like u were trying to dumbtell act about it

there are more but it would take time, you just have had alot of weird things that I don't think any villager would believe

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:46 pm**

It does read a bit like you wanted to hold it In case Kami said me not gonna lie

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:46 pm**

Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:20 am That said, ali!wolf feels good cause it likely clears finger and epi

But is the reality too good to be true

Idk

Alison wolf clears finger and epi, but later he has kami as TR higher than finger, despite Alison's wolf flip

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:47 pm**

Why would I as mafia, hard push the wolf role cop since day 1.
Why would Alison as mafia claim to get a "deep" wolf lynched over herself when her claim makes it so she always dies.

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:47 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:46 pm It does read a bit like you wanted to hold it In case Kami said me not gonna lie

Do you feel I've had a fake tone this game?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:47 pm**

Kami wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:47 pm Why would I as mafia, hard push the wolf role cop since day 1.
Why would Alison as mafia claim to get a "deep" wolf lynched over herself when her claim makes it so she always dies.

Maf bus each other all the time

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:48 pm**

Also I'm very out of my wolf range, I mean you can't trust that meta on me but Esooa confirmed it and she knows me best

my wolf meta is to zero post and give up lmao

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:48 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:47 pm
Kami wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:47 pm Why would I as mafia, hard push the wolf role cop since day 1.
Why would Alison as mafia claim to get a "deep" wolf lynched over herself when her claim makes it so she always dies.
Maf bus each other all the time

Yeah sure I agree, but Alison made it so I was one vote away from being hammered.

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:48 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:46 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:20 am That said, ali!wolf feels good cause it likely clears finger and epi

But is the reality too good to be true

Idk
Alison wolf clears finger and epi, but later he has kami as TR higher than finger, despite Alison's wolf flip

TR went back and forth on his supposed suspicion of me the entire game. It’s clear he was just waiting for the tide to turn against me so he could jump on it.

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:49 pm**

sorry to leave in the middle of this but i gotta brb for a bit

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:50 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:46 pm It does read a bit like you wanted to hold it In case Kami said me not gonna lie

I knew Kami was going to say me, she's been on me all game. I was the chop if Tran hadn't messed up his claim. Kami was voting me, so I was fairly certain she'd wheel around on me when the RD started. Also helps that you've been scum reading me much of the game as well.

Tell me, what do you think the 20% chance is she votes for you? Why would she hedge like that?

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:50 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:47 pm
fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:46 pm It does read a bit like you wanted to hold it In case Kami said me not gonna lie
Do you feel I've had a fake tone this game?

At times, possibly disingenuous. You might the wolf

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:51 pm**

fingersplints wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:48 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:46 pm
Transcend wrote: ↑Tue Jul 27, 2021 7:20 am That said, ali!wolf feels good cause it likely clears finger and epi

But is the reality too good to be true

Idk
Alison wolf clears finger and epi, but later he has kami as TR higher than finger, despite Alison's wolf flip
TR went back and forth on his supposed suspicion of me the entire game. It’s clear he was just waiting for the tide to turn against me so he could jump on it.

I agree.

So why does he never do it with Kami? If she's town, he should be doing something similar

Posted: **Wed Aug 04, 2021 2:51 pm**

ISO Tran and word search my name.

The Syndicate

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