Lilypetal wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:40 am
Why are ppl voting obvtown porcah
i'm almost certain rondo is just wanting me to out myself to him as a player really bad
Well, don't do that.
Do you have some reads?
your first statement assumes I am a player who could be outed as a player instead of just an npc who can't be outed as a player
no and if I did I wouldn't say them right now
My first statement sounded different in my head tbh
I don't want to make players/NPC reads, i only noticed some players are town friendly and some are wolves friendly. I am aware these are not real reads because wolves can be town friendly and town has a tendency to appear wolf friendly.
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:43 am
by Porscha
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:41 am
somebody votes lowposter
somebody calls them not a good vote
rinse repeat
so true bestie
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:43 am
by Porscha
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:41 am
somebody votes lowposter
somebody calls them not a good vote
rinse repeat
so true bestie
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:51 am
by EnderWiggin
[VOTE:
Scotty] aubergine
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:52 am
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
I'll vote anyone not named Porscha Lily Santy Katze or Lumi
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:04 am
by Ricochet
It's scary, you know. Having your arms cut off. Or legs. Or your head. I want to be like everyone else, but I'm just too scared. I'm nothing but a craven.
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:07 am
by iaafr
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:21 am
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Hey i was born in that state
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:49 am
by Michelle
iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:41 am
somebody votes lowposter
somebody calls them not a good vote
rinse repeat
Making reads and solving is a process involving discussions, not personal statements regarding playstyle.
Low posting didn't stop Wilgy to be a good villager from what I know so since i found a villagery thought from hiim I prefer to talk about it.
It's not like a sentence makes him a villager but low posting doesn't make him a wolf.
I am here to listen to any other real reason to consider Wilgy mafia
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:53 am
by Michelle
Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:52 am
I'll vote anyone not named Porscha Lily Santy Katze or Lumi
That's a good town core for now, who else seems good ?
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:46 pm
Wait Santy is town, right?
It's 15 min before EoD, he is about to die. He pops in and asks me about an old post of mine. He's reading thread chronologically. He has no teammates to tell him in real time that he's about to die and ought to be towny in his last minutes.
Terrible defense
How's it terrible? If he's mafia his teammates are all afk. Or he doesn't have teammates. He did not just fake that unawareness. Imo
Tutuu probably died because she defended Santy. I will shepp her read on him
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:00 am
by Michelle
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:50 pm
Scotty and Ran are both mafia you heard it here first. Santy is town 100%. If I'm wrong I can excuse myself by claiming I was a scumsiding NPC.
Spicy
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 9:01 am
by Michelle
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:52 pm
Real weird thread momentum this EoD.
Why would mafia say that?
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:46 pm
Wait Santy is town, right?
It's 15 min before EoD, he is about to die. He pops in and asks me about an old post of mine. He's reading thread chronologically. He has no teammates to tell him in real time that he's about to die and ought to be towny in his last minutes.
Terrible defense
How's it terrible? If he's mafia his teammates are all afk. Or he doesn't have teammates. He did not just fake that unawareness. Imo
Tutuu probably died because she defended Santy. I will shepp her read on him
If that's true I am next for the unvote once that is shown if santy is town I am ic because she might have tied or died depending on wagons npc numbers
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 10:51 am
by RondoDimBuckle
Come on I just got back from a concert and everyone is dead? Rip sleep time then
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:01 am
by Vivax
Is iaafr the guy who sabotaged Jurassic Park or something? Had some really weird dreams tonight but I'm sick so...
Porscha if PC can be town, don't know what Lily is doing or the whole Nanook fake ordeal from iaafr. But I like the local mermaid.
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:02 am
by Vivax
She's a bit of an ass tho
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:07 am
by Ricochet
Well, what do you make of it? What's happened to this village? I witnessed a sight much the same, in my infancy. The oppression of the weak. Murder and pillage unchecked. A waking nightmare, made by men.
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:14 am
by Vivax
Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 8:04 am
It's scary, you know. Having your arms cut off. Or legs. Or your head. I want to be like everyone else, but I'm just too scared. I'm nothing but a craven.
Not running into such a thing deliberately means one isn't a fool, at least. There's a reason boxing matches have weight classes. The only fair match broadly speaking is to duel one's own self.
Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:07 am
Well, what do you make of it? What's happened to this village? I witnessed a sight much the same, in my infancy. The oppression of the weak. Murder and pillage unchecked. A waking nightmare, made by men.
It's somewhere else. Inverted. My reality is your unreality now. Is what this feels like. Someone brought up the word subterfuge, that's what beats raw strength. Also framing situations as the complete opposite of what they are, which is what my life feels like right now.
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 2 Ends 10am Dec 8 to GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
tutuu wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 7:46 pm
Wait Santy is town, right?
It's 15 min before EoD, he is about to die. He pops in and asks me about an old post of mine. He's reading thread chronologically. He has no teammates to tell him in real time that he's about to die and ought to be towny in his last minutes.
Terrible defense
How's it terrible? If he's mafia his teammates are all afk. Or he doesn't have teammates. He did not just fake that unawareness. Imo
Tutuu probably died because she defended Santy. I will shepp her read on him
If that's true I am next for the unvote once that is shown if santy is town I am ic because she might have tied or died depending on wagons npc numbers
No sir, you're not ic
But nice try
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:32 pm
@RondoDimBuckle when you get here ping me and tell me what was your case on me about and what is your read on me tyty
It was just a bullshit push to see how the people around you would react and get info for after you flipped but someone jumped on very late and I thought tied the wagon so I unvoted and tied the wagons.
I just picked your post that looked slightly suspicious if I put it in a context of a wolf killing TSP and then pointing out exactly what you did to try and get cred as town when the reason you killed him is to be able to talk about it.
Like I mean there has to be a reason TSP was killed and its a good enough reason to push you in this game state.
You could still be wolf but It was an arbitrary choice to push content
What reactions did you get? In the end you ended up voting me in a sniping way so you should saw something about someone else that made me look scummy right? And like, blatantly ignoring the EoD read that was on thread of me being derpcleared too
My point on TSP also highlited that a Nin-Syndicater wouldnt even know Tsp had any relevancy, and if you dont know a player why risk killing a potential NPC? Lol
I think the kill just for 'blaming afterwards' is kinda moot , specially with so many people killing to only have a push doesnt make any sense, dont you agree?
And its not only 'push' when you put me at risk lf dying when I am a town player. It could be considered only a pus if you didnt went for the kill at EoD, but you didnt went that way
I cant vote you in a sniping way if I was the first on you and then the last on you and then off you. That makes no sense.
I dont disagree with what Ender said on this. All the TSP kill tells us is that there is one (1) wolf that is a syndicate member, possibly even an old one that is afraid of TSP or knows who he is. Also they could have just rolled a dice and picked who to kill. Highlighted feels like word salad
There doesnt HAVE to be a reason to kill TSP. There is likely one but until we flip an actualy player you are chasing your own tail. And until we flip a wolf it wont be much help to think about it TBH, he was an NPC and I feel like a lot of energy is being put into keeping attention there from you. It could be genuine but atm I am less interested in TSP till I have more information
I could always be a wolf, I have a large range and people never full clear me. I have said it was an arbitrary choice. I could have easily been having this conversation with Scotty for his weird comment yesterday on how I feel ike HR Rondo wolf play when that is not what I am doing.
@RondoDimBuckle you idn't answer my question. What. Reactions. Did. You. Get.
Im saying its scummy for the silent way of it, and seeing people townread me at the time and not interact in the slightlest but still silently voting me , that is why I refer to 'sniping'. And you say you pushed me to see reactions, but what reactions did you get out of it and how they influenced your play or reads? I am not seeing any of that
I agree with point (1) one on the TSP kill, and its what i was saying yesterday and part of why you said you pushed me yesterday? So what's up with that? . And we dont have any flips, and just that only one point is useful for us to get closet to a scum flip so ofc Im going to put attention ¿?¿?
Rn I think the nk are one of the most important info we have to figure out scum , specially because how big the non scum people and Npc s that could seem scummy because of not caring are rn. /Shrug
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:04 pm
You could still be a wolf Santy and killing me last night would only push more votes onto you but I have been alive for 2 nights now and I should be dead so I am going to start looking into who I am shielding and that is Ender and Michelle and a few others because at this point the only reason I am alive is because wolves want me to be.
There is a lot of people tho so i dont think this is a correct assumption to make regardless
sure there are a lot of people but you would care about my thoughts on your slot and later people will as well after you flip (If they insist on flipping you today or wolves kill you tonight) since you have claimed player. It is an odd claim for a wolf to make I will be fully fair to your slot. It means you have to survive in a no doc format to FX and not be killed past day 8. Not easy for a wolf. So thinking about that you're probably just town if you are a player because no wolf makes that claim because its just a huge focus on why didnt you die last night every night till the end of the game.
I don't feel like tou got my point.
You being alive doesnt give any info regardless, bug playerlist and there could be a lot of slots with other reasons to be killed and leaving you for later or whatever. So wahtever the read was if you base it on 'you being alive' is moot imo.
RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 9:05 pm
@santygrass You could also have gone into my iso and found the case on me if you were truely interested in interacting with me. So its a point against you tbh
Nah, I wanted to hear your words and how you summarized it more than reading the case. Live Interaction always Goat
well I wont be re-stating a case you havent read
Restating =/= Summarizing
In the second part I am able to see more easily which are the parts that weigh more for you, nuance on the read and all sort of stuff
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:23 pm
Like, I started tr Scottu for the way they pushed Sloonei
Here’s the thing
I don’t have a lot of content, and I’ve been pretty one-noted on Sloonei so far this game. I think I would even be sus of myself in other people’s shoes.
I know it may sound asinine but I don’t think this is a good look for you lolol
And I think thats not a scummy approach /shrug .
Like, there are still a lot of 'filler' slots in the game and its not a normal game. I think your take had nuance and vibed with how you approached the game and I still stand by it.
But if you feel like other people seeing you sus is expected then I will stop shielding you hmmyes
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:38 pm
@Scotty in this playerlist, who would you consider as Syndicaters that would have TSP in sight to consider Night killing them?
I’m not sure this has to be a Syndicate exclusive list or even that anyone would be more likely to do it. I haven’t followed why TSP was even close to being a kill target. If anything, based on my [minimal] skimming, I think it was just an off kill.
Also Nook. To answer your question.
@Scotty when you can then ISO tsp just to entertain me. Its a short ISO and when I did it I thought the way they were not much relevant in the game but still had some 'Syndicate based' reads , pointed to someone from syndicate highlighting tsp as a kill target.
And yeh, it was a off kill
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
santygrass wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:51 pm
To anyone who cares about actually solving the gane:
* I am quite clearly I player. I think that its kinda evident on any of my stream of posts (The solving focus discussion or the D2 intent to vote someone too) . Manny , a player from my home community also heavily said that I was obv player. I also at this point hardclaimed player
* I still fail to see anyone actually interacting with me and do an actual casing or try to solve me
* Last EoD should be almost mech clearing for me. For both the way I didnt know it was EoD (lol) and how I still ended up with my wagon tied. For D2 to a scum tl be top wagon their teammates should be MIA or not care which we all should know is unlikely lol
* Even comparing the votes at EoD its kinda apparent which were the scummy and silent ones (the ones on me),meanwhile the ones on hk came from people that were talking in the EoD and were activ on thread
* Tutuu being killed should also be clearing. And not only for the fact of WIFOM they shielded me EoD.
It hows that scum was hunting for players on the hollowkatt wagon. If I were a mafia player it should be safe to assume that another scum player would be with me and there would be no need to do 'player hunting' on the wagon..
Case done tyvm
I don’t like when people make cases to clear themselves. Also end of day doesn’t clear you at all. What mech clear are you talking about?
'almost mech clearing' , means there is no mech , but wsgon movement, arguments , posting, threadstate and all that sort of stuff should just clear me.
And I know I am biased on the read but I think with a minimal analysis me being town should be the obvious conclusion and I feel pretty confident about that so the casing was also tu justify my current entitlement and to anyone sussing me to reply to it and case me if they can or otherwise be hellsussed tbhtbh
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:49 am
by santygrass
@Lilypetal you feel like a wolf ngl
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:52 am
by santygrass
[VOTE:
DeZees] aubergine
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 11:52 am
by santygrass
I'm okay with murdering Guillo after the purge if they are still alive
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
santygrass wrote: ↑Mon Dec 05, 2022 11:29 pm
Jack vote Guillo with me uwu
For why?
Because they arent clearly town tbh.
Dont care if its an npc or magia player much. Just bang bang
lol
Vivax wrote: ↑Tue Dec 06, 2022 2:17 pm[VOTE:
Guillotine] aubergine
Will be in a ‚meeting’ later.
Is everyone else also split in half ?
Vivax wrote: ↑Wed Dec 07, 2022 12:32 pm[VOTE:
DeeZees] aubergine
Guy sitting to my left literally started meowing yesterday.
He never meowed before.
Maybe cause of who was sitting in front of him, or cause I was contaminating his head. Or someone else perhaps.
@Vivax just wanted to highlit that when you voted me, you switched off hk without a reason, and in a wagon that had most of the people you voted previously.
Think I will probably give you the Guillo treatment too and if you arr alive after the purge you should be murderized too
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:23 pm
by santygrass
Inawordyes wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:09 pm
Iawy, not Inawy
Gotchaa
Any reads to share with the class?
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:24 pm
by Ranmilia
santygrass wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:12 pm
@ilario @Ranmilia can you tell me why the votes on DrWilg ?
Check out his ISO and posting times. Wilgy is 2 for 2 now on showing up at EOD with a wolfy snipe vote, keeping his head down otherwise. I suspected him early on d2 as that was the exact pattern I expected from some mafia on d1, then no one talked about him and we all got sidetracked, then he did it again EOD2.
He's given no particular analysis or content, just a couple of toss-in reads with no justification, and his posts read wolfy to me. The "ooh, why is Santy showing up to save HK?" and "Real weird thread momentum this EoD." are very typical wolf posts in my eyes.
There's significant real player equity there given the d2 wagons and the fact that mafia killed Tutuu, and I don't think it's town equity.
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:29 pm
by Guillotine
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Dec 08, 2022 8:08 pmDay of the Purge
This server has become bloated. Reality is dissolving under the weight of these ever expanding volumes. We must do a database cleanse.
At the end of the day. After the daily elimination is flipped. Half of the remaining NPCs will be randomly removed from the game.
Oh yes! Mass death is fun! Get wrecked NPCs
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:31 pm
by Michelle
How many times have you played with Wilgy?
Re: Secret Playerlist - Day 3 Ends 10am Dec 11 GMT +10 (Aus Eastern Standard Time)
Posted: Fri Dec 09, 2022 12:31 pm
by nutella
Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 3:20 am
Seanzie my #2 choice as of right now. Other candidates include lilypetal, porcha, neon, ricochet, maybe schiavetto but realistically not over those others.
Don't think Nanook or Guillo are good votes.
Still townread Scotty but the suspicion there is already "see if Ranmilia is wrong" so shrugze.
No longer wish to eliminate Santy or Ender barring further developments.
mooooostly agree with this post i think except for uh one big thing which is that i dont understand why wilgy