The Syndicate

sig wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:If there's going to be a counterwagon, it's got to be sig. Vompatti would be nice too but no one is going to get behind that.

lol

a2thezebra wrote:Also, please don't lynch me because I'm not bad.

Yes you are.


Zebra just like in the last game we played in which she was bad, is trying to lynch me for no reason just like in last game, Zebra is a baddie this game.

So nobody is going to follow my Epi plan fine. However, the fact that y'all are starting other wagons on people when we have an outed most likely bad cylon is stupid, especially considering our win cons. I mean I see no case for DF yet he has two votes? Zebra wants to start a counter wagon on me yet is now saying she wants lorab lynched, ect.
I think any attempt to counter lorab is being done by her teammates.

DrWilgy wrote:Hi guys and gals!

Who should I vote for?

ObscureAllure wrote:MM - I stated yesterday (last night) that I was going to vote for LoRab when the day started because she's a confirmed cylon and lost her amnesty. I'm honestly shocked that everyone who was saying the same before hasn't done so. Even some of the same people who voted for her yesterday haven't today. And I kind of feel like DF is a bandwagon set up waiting to happen. Which is why I'm asking for a plan.

a2thezebra wrote:For this phase, we'll lynch LoRab. There's no other option for the lynch itself, but that doesn't mean that this phase has to be unproductive.

Vompatti wrote:

a2thezebra wrote:Surely not an evil marmot.

lol u got me

Glorfindel wrote:Allow me to clarify:
The Day phase before last we had that Cylon indemnity law thing and then at the beginning of this Day phase we have Admiral Caine's martial law edict that as far as I could understand appeared to contradict the previous law in its intent. I also thought I read someone remark about how some characters in the TV Series ended up as Cylons despite believing they were human (actually I recall the remark was made in reference to Magnus' (Nerolunar's) character from the TV Series). If that's what we're to expect here in this game, I don't know where that leaves us. I've never played a Mafia game before where I have been left grasping for a point of reference in the void of uncertainty that is the stuff of these games. Like I said previously, I don't accept this is (even remotely about Humans vs Cylons). I know there are some people playing that believe it is that simple and whilst I may becoming a conspiracy theorist/tinfoiling nutcase) I don't... Yet...

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I just realized something. The list of people I want to lynch is way too long right now. There are people who I am suspicious of to various degrees (Ricochet, a2thezebra, Long Con, sig, JaggedJimmyJay, Matt), there are people who are resistant or absolutely refusing the Anti-Amnesty plan (bea, ObscureAllure, Ricochet, Long Con, others I can't name off the top of my head), and then there are obvious Cylons (Lorab, Epignosis), and then there are yet more people that have been so quiet lately (DFaraday, Black Rock, juliets).

I don't know about the rest of you, but it's kinda overwhelming. That's half of the players in the game! How's everyone else feeling right now?

Physically? Better.

In the context you're asking? I feel fine. I do not get worked up over things I cannot control.

sig wrote:So nobody is going to follow my Epi plan fine. However, the fact that y'all are starting other wagons on people when we have an outed most likely bad cylon is stupid, especially considering our win cons. I mean I see no case for DF yet he has two votes? Zebra wants to start a counter wagon on me yet is now saying she wants lorab lynched, ect.
I think any attempt to counter lorab is being done by her teammates.

sig wrote:

Silverwolf wrote:

sig wrote: I think any attempt to counter lorab is being done by her teammates.

Yes, because I'm an idiot.

No need to get nasty and defensive.

sig wrote:I already said before I started playing I'd be busier forgive me if I didn't build big enough cases and just made posts and weighed in when I could. To much toxicity of this game at times and post counts didn't help. I'm on a tight schedule right now with school and I don't want to post WHEN PEOPLE ARE CAPING EACH OTHER TO DEATH, or when I have ten pages of nonsense to catch up on. The posts I do make have been either ignored or discounted.
Also if you looked at my baddie meta you'd see i usually post more and do build cases. But, go ahead if you want to lynch me without building a case or doing critical thinking about how to win go ahead.

Zebra I'm not trying to actively get you lynched while you are activity trying to get me lynched over a cylon and the way you keep brushing suspicion off and not actually doing anything is scummy. You're not even trying to game solve and you're just coasting.

linki: I wasn't even addressing SW at first she just made a weird response to my post which I believe was uncalled for. I said any attempt to make a counterwagon which would mean lynching the counter over lorab is scummy. I see no world in which a good townie player would attempt to lynch someone with nothing then Lorab who is a confirmed cylon who is most likely bad. I could see leaving Epi alive, I'm fine with that atm, but it makes no sense to not lynch Lorab and instead lynch me, Df, or even LC.

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I proposed a plan yesterday, and you've refused to follow it OA. You've also already voted despite warnings against it from myself and sig.

Did you have a plan in mind?

You don't need a PLAN.

juliets wrote:So say we all.

I slept late this morning after a long drive yesterday through terrible thunderstorms and haven't fully caught up yet. I do however see that the claiming cylon has really taken on a serious tone so I am a cylon too. I hear you bea about being the member of one of the five but I'd rather take that chance than not claim cylon based on the reasoning put forth.

I am leaning toward a lorab vote today because we already believe (or I already believe) that Epi is a good cylon and there can't really be that many. I don't know what to do about the new win con where it concerns Epi but I think someone else said this too - maybe if given some time that martial law will be canceled or replaced with something more moderate.

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

It makes more sense to me to go for someone who has claimed Cylon than taking a shot in the dark (especially if that shot is at me).

votes Lorab

S~V~S wrote:I utterly hate the idea of forcing anyone to do anything. If you want to lynch them since you think they are cylons for refusing to take the pledge, that's one thing. But forcing people to make claims against their will by piling votes on them with potential vote manips out there to force them to make a claim that might not even be applicable just seems like a bad idea. Also kind of mean. Trying to convince them, awesome. Forcing them, not so much.

I plan to either vote for LoRab flat out, or for LC if people are amiable to that. We know LoRab is a Cylon, and I will eat my hat and sig anything LC wants for the rest of my mafia career if he is not Admiral Cain. I don;t want to make anyone do anything they don't want to. That is not much fun, tbh.

S~V~S wrote:EBWOP, I don't think Epi is bad, and getting rid of Cain will bring a return to saner policies. I don't want to force him to burn his protection, and I don't even know that I think OA is a cylon.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

It makes more sense to me to go for someone who has claimed Cylon than taking a shot in the dark (especially if that shot is at me).

votes Lorab

Would you be willing to claim Cylon at this moment?

MetalmarshFail wrote:

S~V~S wrote:EBWOP, I don't think Epi is bad, and getting rid of Cain will bring a return to saner policies. I don't want to force him to burn his protection, and I don't even know that I think OA is a cylon.

I wasn't trying to call OA a Cylon. She said here "we" don't have a plan for today. I pointed out that she has refused 2 other plans with her actions, so I wanted to know what plan she wanted to propose.

I'm fine with other plans being in place, but making a sweeping statement such as "we don't have a plan" could use some support with an idea for a plan.

Scotty wrote: You had all day to contemplate your answer to my push against you and why you're not claiming cylon while still pushing for Epi to do it. So let's do this:

vote sig

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

It makes more sense to me to go for someone who has claimed Cylon than taking a shot in the dark (especially if that shot is at me).

votes Lorab

Would you be willing to claim Cylon at this moment?

I'm not a Cylon, so I don't see how that will help me.

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

It makes more sense to me to go for someone who has claimed Cylon than taking a shot in the dark (especially if that shot is at me).

votes Lorab

Would you be willing to claim Cylon at this moment?

I'm not a Cylon, so I don't see how that will help me.

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

It makes more sense to me to go for someone who has claimed Cylon than taking a shot in the dark (especially if that shot is at me).

votes Lorab

Would you be willing to claim Cylon at this moment?

I'm not a Cylon, so I don't see how that will help me.

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

It makes more sense to me to go for someone who has claimed Cylon than taking a shot in the dark (especially if that shot is at me).

votes Lorab

Would you be willing to claim Cylon at this moment?

I'm not a Cylon, so I don't see how that will help me.

Long Con wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

It makes more sense to me to go for someone who has claimed Cylon than taking a shot in the dark (especially if that shot is at me).

votes Lorab

Would you be willing to claim Cylon at this moment?

I'm not a Cylon, so I don't see how that will help me.

Ok, that's my limit of people being intentionally obtuse.

Vote DFaraday

S~V~S wrote:ebwop AGAIN, lol.

Or Rico. I have no reason since day 1 to think he might not be on my side. I wish they would just do it, but if they don't, they don't.

Linki, when I think of the damage immortal marmots would cause to our national parks... And fair enough. It's just that I have heard similar sentiments from others.

Ricochet wrote:

Scotty wrote: You had all day to contemplate your answer to my push against you and why you're not claiming cylon while still pushing for Epi to do it. So let's do this:

vote sig

Remind me why you're not invested in the slightest to lynch LoRab. Your Day Three vote was also parked on sig.

Long Con wrote:

DFaraday wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

DFaraday wrote:So say we all

It makes more sense to me to go for someone who has claimed Cylon than taking a shot in the dark (especially if that shot is at me).

votes Lorab

Would you be willing to claim Cylon at this moment?

I'm not a Cylon, so I don't see how that will help me.

Ok, that's my limit of people being intentionally obtuse.

Vote DFaraday

S~V~S wrote:I utterly hate the idea of forcing anyone to do anything. If you want to lynch them since you think they are cylons for refusing to take the pledge, that's one thing. But forcing people to make claims against their will by piling votes on them with potential vote manips out there to force them to make a claim that might not even be applicable just seems like a bad idea. Also kind of mean. Trying to convince them, awesome. Forcing them, not so much.

I plan to either vote for LoRab flat out, or for LC if people are amiable to that. We know LoRab is a Cylon, and I will eat my hat and sig anything LC wants for the rest of my mafia career if he is not Admiral Cain. I don;t want to make anyone do anything they don't want to. That is not much fun, tbh.

Scotty wrote:EBWOP
SVS could eat a hat, not cat.

Now please, a few more people vote for dog

Scotty wrote:EBWOP
SVS could eat a hat, not cat.

Now please, a few more people vote for dog

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I utterly hate the idea of forcing anyone to do anything. If you want to lynch them since you think they are cylons for refusing to take the pledge, that's one thing. But forcing people to make claims against their will by piling votes on them with potential vote manips out there to force them to make a claim that might not even be applicable just seems like a bad idea. Also kind of mean. Trying to convince them, awesome. Forcing them, not so much.

I plan to either vote for LoRab flat out, or for LC if people are amiable to that. We know LoRab is a Cylon, and I will eat my hat and sig anything LC wants for the rest of my mafia career if he is not Admiral Cain. I don;t want to make anyone do anything they don't want to. That is not much fun, tbh.

Ok, so S~V~S has immunity this lynch. Put her on the list of claimers.

Ricochet wrote:In fact, I incline to regard Long Con as a shoe in, due to certain mentions that have been made in the game.

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:EBWOP
SVS could eat a hat, not cat.

Now please, a few more people vote for dog

This was on purpose

Long Con wrote:

Ricochet wrote:In fact, I incline to regard Long Con as a shoe in, due to certain mentions that have been made in the game.

What are you even talking about??

S~V~S wrote:

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I utterly hate the idea of forcing anyone to do anything. If you want to lynch them since you think they are cylons for refusing to take the pledge, that's one thing. But forcing people to make claims against their will by piling votes on them with potential vote manips out there to force them to make a claim that might not even be applicable just seems like a bad idea. Also kind of mean. Trying to convince them, awesome. Forcing them, not so much.

I plan to either vote for LoRab flat out, or for LC if people are amiable to that. We know LoRab is a Cylon, and I will eat my hat and sig anything LC wants for the rest of my mafia career if he is not Admiral Cain. I don;t want to make anyone do anything they don't want to. That is not much fun, tbh.

Ok, so S~V~S has immunity this lynch. Put her on the list of claimers.

I claimed yesterday.

Long Con wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Scotty wrote:EBWOP
SVS could eat a hat, not cat.

Now please, a few more people vote for dog

This was on purpose

Oh.... I thought you were on a phone and accidentally autocorrected sig to dog... as so many have done before you. Sorry for my humour detection fail.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Where did SVS claim Cylon today?

S~V~S wrote:I utterly hate the idea of forcing anyone to do anything. If you want to lynch them since you think they are cylons for refusing to take the pledge, that's one thing. But forcing people to make claims against their will by piling votes on them with potential vote manips out there to force them to make a claim that might not even be applicable just seems like a bad idea. Also kind of mean. Trying to convince them, awesome. Forcing them, not so much.

I plan to either vote for LoRab flat out, or for LC if people are amiable to that. We know LoRab is a Cylon, and I will eat my hat and sig anything LC wants for the rest of my mafia career if he is not Admiral Cain. I don;t want to make anyone do anything they don't want to. That is not much fun, tbh.

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Where did SVS claim Cylon today?

Everything about this post screams "I am a Cylon". Literally everything, except the blablabla about Lorab being a Cylon that we all already know.

She opposes the plan, and she wants to kill Cain. The only players with a reason to want Cain dead are Cylons. I'm not Cain, but that's not the point, the point is what S~V~S believes.

S~V~S wrote:I utterly hate the idea of forcing anyone to do anything. If you want to lynch them since you think they are cylons for refusing to take the pledge, that's one thing. But forcing people to make claims against their will by piling votes on them with potential vote manips out there to force them to make a claim that might not even be applicable just seems like a bad idea. Also kind of mean. Trying to convince them, awesome. Forcing them, not so much.

I plan to either vote for LoRab flat out, or for LC if people are amiable to that. We know LoRab is a Cylon, and I will eat my hat and sig anything LC wants for the rest of my mafia career if he is not Admiral Cain. I don;t want to make anyone do anything they don't want to. That is not much fun, tbh.

Long Con wrote:The only players with a reason to want Cain dead are Cylons.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I have no beef with Silverwolf or DrumBeats. Silverwolf I believe is not a Cylon. DrumBeats I am indifferent on.

Considering the current law, what differentiates all of the above cases for Lorab, Ricochet?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ok, make that 14 players I wanted to lynch.

Linki: Lol, as much as I'd love to just flow with the game, I feel somewhat responsible since I've earned the President's good graces. I'd rather just lynch Cain, but it's not really viable to pick out a single role among such a large group. Thus, I guess we can keep lynching Cylons and hope that we accidentally run into a Cain lynch.

What's your POA zebra?

Long Con wrote:

Ricochet wrote:In fact, I incline to regard Long Con as a shoe in, due to certain mentions that have been made in the game.

What are you even talking about??

Ricochet wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I have no beef with Silverwolf or DrumBeats. Silverwolf I believe is not a Cylon. DrumBeats I am indifferent on.

Considering the current law, what differentiates all of the above cases for Lorab, Ricochet?

Nothing.

Would you vote LoRab toDay because of the martial law or because she might be baddie. That's the question.

Long Con wrote: The only players with a reason to want Cain dead are Cylons.

Ricochet wrote:

Long Con wrote: The only players with a reason to want Cain dead are Cylons.

I seriously doubt that. Admiral Cain's law might have changed the situation for a lot of players.

linki @ MM: Roger that. So you don't think scenarios B to D have any validity?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Where did SVS claim Cylon today?

Everything about this post screams "I am a Cylon". Literally everything, except the blablabla about Lorab being a Cylon that we all already know.

She opposes the plan, and she wants to kill Cain. The only players with a reason to want Cain dead are Cylons. I'm not Cain, but that's not the point, the point is what S~V~S believes.

S~V~S wrote:I utterly hate the idea of forcing anyone to do anything. If you want to lynch them since you think they are cylons for refusing to take the pledge, that's one thing. But forcing people to make claims against their will by piling votes on them with potential vote manips out there to force them to make a claim that might not even be applicable just seems like a bad idea. Also kind of mean. Trying to convince them, awesome. Forcing them, not so much.

I plan to either vote for LoRab flat out, or for LC if people are amiable to that. We know LoRab is a Cylon, and I will eat my hat and sig anything LC wants for the rest of my mafia career if he is not Admiral Cain. I don;t want to make anyone do anything they don't want to. That is not much fun, tbh.

This reads like genuine SVS to me.

Epignosis wrote:

Long Con wrote:The only players with a reason to want Cain dead are Cylons.

How do you know that?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Crap, I must be a Cylon.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ok, make that 14 players I wanted to lynch.

Linki: Lol, as much as I'd love to just flow with the game, I feel somewhat responsible since I've earned the President's good graces. I'd rather just lynch Cain, but it's not really viable to pick out a single role among such a large group. Thus, I guess we can keep lynching Cylons and hope that we accidentally run into a Cain lynch.

What's your POA zebra?

Ricochet wrote:

Long Con wrote:

Ricochet wrote:In fact, I incline to regard Long Con as a shoe in, due to certain mentions that have been made in the game.

What are you even talking about??

There has been insistence that you are Cylon for sho.

S~V~S wrote:I am opposed to Martial Law and control of the fleet being removed from Adama. I think some cylons, like Epi, can be good, and I don't like someone with their own agenda just changing gears like this. I HATE that the win cons have been changed, since I believe Epi is not bad, and I doubt that Six is a baddie, either.

I think Cain needs to go and control needs to be returned to the sane.