Bread Mafia [Game Over]

[DkKoba]

so what if shit doesnt make sense are u kidding me

[DkKoba]

why does not making sense = mafia

[Alison]

pumping the brakes, i'll vote back michelle in one second

if u hammer u should be turbo'd for it.

im informing u rn that voting = hammer.

I was voted michelle, and moved me vote off to prevent hammer cuz i'm still a little loss on implications of the flip.
is Alison's read consensus?

I have Grogu and Doom as town. I think Ellie and you are both possible Michelle teammates, and Nanook and Jay are also possibilities. It may be one of you/ellie and one of the two "deeper" guys

I think Nanook and Jay are townier than Grogu and Doom but we can argue about that D4

[DkKoba]

brb i have to read games on epicmafia see yall in abot an hour if im not a delinquint

[Esooa]

so what if shit doesnt make sense are u kidding me

she literally had straight up lied about many facets of the game

[Made]

okay, i am satisfied i think. i'll hammer in 15mins unless someone wants to stop me?

[Alison]

why does not making sense = mafia

Town Michelle makes sense. It may not be 100% linear robot logic, but there's a coherence to her posts that I'm not seeing here. Town Michelle is easy to find as town.

Townies make more sense than mafia because they're not making shit up. They have less inconsistencies in their story, and their viewpoints are more coherent and believable, because their stories and viewpoints are real and natural. It doesn't mean that someone is automatically town just because they don't make sense, but if someone consistently doesn't make sense for too long in a row with no attempt to course correct, that's a scumtell.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I endorse a Michelle chop. I spare the vote to prevent the hammer.

[Alison]

okay, i am satisfied i think. i'll hammer in 15mins unless someone wants to stop me?

[unvote][/unvote]

wtf

[Made]

oh jk, it's at 7 again. I'll vote again, I don't want that much power nyways

[Michelle]

You never saw town me playing like that...
You also never saw scum me playing Alison
And, more, i never played like that as any AI.

You are just imagining things

[Alison]

Made's equity as Michelle's wolf buddy just skyrocketed btw.

[Michelle]

why does not making sense = mafia

Town Michelle makes sense. It may not be 100% linear robot logic, but there's a coherence to her posts that I'm not seeing here. Town Michelle is easy to find as town.

Townies make more sense than mafia because they're not making shit up. They have less inconsistencies in their story, and their viewpoints are more coherent and believable, because their stories and viewpoints are real and natural. It doesn't mean that someone is automatically town just because they don't make sense, but if someone consistently doesn't make sense for too long in a row with no attempt to course correct, that's a scumtell.

No, that's just your opinion after 2 or 3 games

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Game feels owned atm. Maybe I’ll calm my arrogance later when I am less headachy

[nutella]

why does not making sense = mafia

Not sure if this is directed at me but regarding Michelle's reads not making sense I think it is specifically in a scum agenda way. She's trying to either save her butt by appearing to have a solve, or accept that she's going down and try to sow chaos before her flip/instill doubt in the towncore. I mean "not making sense" in the sense that her reasons cannot possibly be real and thus are fabricated and forced in order to look like she has a solve, so yes, =mafia.

[Alison]

okay, i am satisfied i think. i'll hammer in 15mins unless someone wants to stop me?

a) wants cred for hammering scum

b) wants to cut the day short 24 hours early so town have less time to grill him + his teammate

c) "someone wants to stop me?" -> please someone (dk probably?) save my scum buddy and shield her at the last moment

[Michelle]

brb i have to read games on epicmafia see yall in abot an hour if im not a delinquint

Pls release me of the promise

[Alison]

why does not making sense = mafia

Town Michelle makes sense. It may not be 100% linear robot logic, but there's a coherence to her posts that I'm not seeing here. Town Michelle is easy to find as town.

Townies make more sense than mafia because they're not making shit up. They have less inconsistencies in their story, and their viewpoints are more coherent and believable, because their stories and viewpoints are real and natural. It doesn't mean that someone is automatically town just because they don't make sense, but if someone consistently doesn't make sense for too long in a row with no attempt to course correct, that's a scumtell.

No, that's just your opinion after 2 or 3 games

Your defense is "you're wrong, I'm not actually coherent as town, I'm actually incoherent as both alignments so you shouldn't scumread me for it"?

[Michelle]

okay, i am satisfied i think. i'll hammer in 15mins unless someone wants to stop me?

a) wants cred for hammering scum

b) wants to cut the day short 24 hours early so town have less time to grill him + his teammate

c) "someone wants to stop me?" -> please someone (dk probably?) save my scum buddy and shield her at the last moment

He doesn't receive credit for hammering scum

[Made]

okay, i am satisfied i think. i'll hammer in 15mins unless someone wants to stop me?

a) wants cred for hammering scum

b) wants to cut the day short 24 hours early so town have less time to grill him + his teammate

c) "someone wants to stop me?" -> please someone (dk probably?) save my scum buddy and shield her at the last moment

i see the logic, ur wrong, but tiene razon

[Michelle]

why does not making sense = mafia

Town Michelle makes sense. It may not be 100% linear robot logic, but there's a coherence to her posts that I'm not seeing here. Town Michelle is easy to find as town.

Townies make more sense than mafia because they're not making shit up. They have less inconsistencies in their story, and their viewpoints are more coherent and believable, because their stories and viewpoints are real and natural. It doesn't mean that someone is automatically town just because they don't make sense, but if someone consistently doesn't make sense for too long in a row with no attempt to course correct, that's a scumtell.

No, that's just your opinion after 2 or 3 games

Your defense is "you're wrong, I'm not actually coherent as town, I'm actually incoherent as both alignments so you shouldn't scumread me for it"?

No my defense is you take my meta as you like it not as it is.
This is boring to fight with

[Alison]

Michelle, 7 people voting you right now. 2 more (JJJ and myself) endorsing the exe, but not voting to prevent hammer.

Even if all 3 scum is stacked on you, at least 6 townies want you dead. Clearly you are not easy to find as town. So why are you so insistent that if nutella/SPF were town they would find you as town?

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Made is super congenial with all his haters lol

You’re good people Made

[nutella]

Another strong point against Michelle imo that I'm not really sure I can articulate very well but bear with me -- she has sort of waffled back and forth between giving up/falling over and fighting back/trying to put in effort. This is something I recognize quite a bit from my own scum meta -- when it looks like I'm more or less caught, I sometimes almost veer into giving up and lolcatting and accepting that I'm the chop and can't salvage it, but when it feels like there's an opportunity or I get a moment of inspiration I go back into fighting the scumreads and attempting to make it look like I'm actually trying to solve the game. I did this kind of thing in Making Friends And Enemies here, and in the hydra mash on MU. I think Michelle has shown what can only be scum perspective in her varying attitudes toward being the inevitable chop today.

[Michelle]

why does not making sense = mafia

Not sure if this is directed at me but regarding Michelle's reads not making sense I think it is specifically in a scum agenda way. She's trying to either save her butt by appearing to have a solve, or accept that she's going down and try to sow chaos before her flip/instill doubt in the towncore. I mean "not making sense" in the sense that her reasons cannot possibly be real and thus are fabricated and forced in order to look like she has a solve, so yes, =mafia.

Can you stop talking about me?
You will have the ML, be happy, isn't this enough?

[nutella]

Made's equity as Michelle's wolf buddy just skyrocketed btw.

hmmyes

[Michelle]

Michelle, 7 people voting you right now. 2 more (JJJ and myself) endorsing the exe, but not voting to prevent hammer.

Even if all 3 scum is stacked on you, at least 6 townies want you dead. Clearly you are not easy to find as town. So why are you so insistent that if nutella/SPF were town they would find you as town?

They started the push in bad faith.
The others piled on because i played anti town
I invited tutuu, nanook, everyone.
Like you don't know..

[nutella]

why does not making sense = mafia

Town Michelle makes sense. It may not be 100% linear robot logic, but there's a coherence to her posts that I'm not seeing here. Town Michelle is easy to find as town.

Townies make more sense than mafia because they're not making shit up. They have less inconsistencies in their story, and their viewpoints are more coherent and believable, because their stories and viewpoints are real and natural. It doesn't mean that someone is automatically town just because they don't make sense, but if someone consistently doesn't make sense for too long in a row with no attempt to course correct, that's a scumtell.

No, that's just your opinion after 2 or 3 games

Your defense is "you're wrong, I'm not actually coherent as town, I'm actually incoherent as both alignments so you shouldn't scumread me for it"?

lol

[Michelle]

Another strong point against Michelle imo that I'm not really sure I can articulate very well but bear with me -- she has sort of waffled back and forth between giving up/falling over and fighting back/trying to put in effort. This is something I recognize quite a bit from my own scum meta -- when it looks like I'm more or less caught, I sometimes almost veer into giving up and lolcatting and accepting that I'm the chop and can't salvage it, but when it feels like there's an opportunity or I get a moment of inspiration I go back into fighting the scumreads and attempting to make it look like I'm actually trying to solve the game. I did this kind of thing in Making Friends And Enemies here, and in the hydra mash on MU. I think Michelle has shown what can only be scum perspective in her varying attitudes toward being the inevitable chop today.

Excuse you miss, i am me, not you

[nutella]

Town Michelle is like a waterfall
Scum Michelle is like a plinko board

I know it's sort of a silly trendy analogy but it really applies here imo

[DaughterOfOmega]

I will miss you all if it ends here

[Michelle]

brb i have to read games on epicmafia see yall in abot an hour if im not a delinquint

Pls release me of the promise

@DkKoba

[Michelle]

Town Michelle is like a waterfall
Scum Michelle is like a plinko board

I know it's sort of a silly trendy analogy but it really applies here imo

Just stop saying my name.

[Made]

Another strong point against Michelle imo that I'm not really sure I can articulate very well but bear with me -- she has sort of waffled back and forth between giving up/falling over and fighting back/trying to put in effort. This is something I recognize quite a bit from my own scum meta -- when it looks like I'm more or less caught, I sometimes almost veer into giving up and lolcatting and accepting that I'm the chop and can't salvage it, but when it feels like there's an opportunity or I get a moment of inspiration I go back into fighting the scumreads and attempting to make it look like I'm actually trying to solve the game. I did this kind of thing in Making Friends And Enemies here, and in the hydra mash on MU. I think Michelle has shown what can only be scum perspective in her varying attitudes toward being the inevitable chop today.

Excuse you miss, i am me, not you

[nutella]

You're not even engaging with my points you're just snapping with indignance. I don't need to say more and neither do you I guess. Gg

[Michelle]

I will miss you all if it ends here

[Michelle]

I am not engaging with scum

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I love you all like I love my dinner burrito

[staypositivefriend]

im gay

[Michelle]

I love you all like I love my dinner burrito

All?

[Esooa]

im gay

[Michelle]

im gay

Im straight

Matters?

[Made]

im gay

yo, as an aside, when did MTS get so queer?!?!
like i'm lovvingggg it for her

[Alison]

im gay

pretty big mind meld there SPF, you trying to pocket me?

[Michelle]

I guess not

[Alison]

im gay

yo, as an aside, when did MTS get so queer?!?!
like i'm lovvingggg it for her

who is MTS?

[Made]

im gay

yo, as an aside, when did MTS get so queer?!?!
like i'm lovvingggg it for her

who is MTS?

Syndicate lmao

[staypositivefriend]

im gay

yo, as an aside, when did MTS get so queer?!?!
like i'm lovvingggg it for her

the gays will overtake mafiathesyndicate by 2022

[Alison]

im gay

yo, as an aside, when did MTS get so queer?!?!
like i'm lovvingggg it for her

who is MTS?

Syndicate lmao

we had an entire mafia game that was only open to queer people at one point

[staypositivefriend]

im gay

pretty big mind meld there SPF, you trying to pocket me?

absolutely, the "i'm gay" technique is extremely advanced WIFOM that i only break out in the most pressing situations