The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:36 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:28 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 3:26 pm i dont really believe in my heart that syn is a wolf even though i think it's entirely possible

so im in that awkward inbetween state where i dont quite have the time to figure out who i would wanna chop in a world where syn doesnt get killed, but where syn being killed doesn't feel exactly right to me

hopefully it's just syn and im just being silly
weren't you coming in hard saying the neighbor chat was wolfy and he was lying about it? why do you think he's town and why did you only bring this up after 46 hours?

yeah i mean, i do think that his reads have been wolfy and haven't made any sense, but he hasn't been posting like a final wolf that's guaranteed to die. i just don't fully feel it but i hope im just getting meme'd on

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:36 pm**

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:33 pm Vulgard mentions multiple times and makes notes of things he wants to ask TO SPF when day starts, not out of theater range but doesn't really feel w/w

any more detail on this?

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:38 pm**

Paraphrased, but very close to what was actually posted in the neighborhood:

"C4's leaps and thoughts are incomprehensible to me. That said, he's been townread by people who know his meta well, namely SPF and a couple of others. If he's W then he's been metashielded for no reason and in that case SPF's wolf equity skyrockets. I'd say he's wolfier than dya, because dya's play makes no sense to me from a scum POV. C4's play could be that of a brazen, somewhat tunnely wolf. Dya has been almost noncontributive outside of the Alison read. Meanwhile c4 has contributes a few things here and there but has only been voting for dya iirc. Has he ever voted elsewhere?"

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:39 pm**

Seems good for c4

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:39 pm**

ya seems like one of those "mad that a villager i could mislunch is getting cleared" reads

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:40 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:36 pm
Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:33 pm Vulgard mentions multiple times and makes notes of things he wants to ask TO SPF when day starts, not out of theater range but doesn't really feel w/w
any more detail on this?

He wanted to ask SPF about her shielding on c4
he talked about the two of them a lot for what feels like almost no reason if both of them are town

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:42 pm**

i posted this earlier but like

"SPF/c4 might be w/v in c4's favor. I could see the hard shield being a pocket. Remember their day 1 interaction? C4 came in dancing around an early wolfread on SPF and SPF ended up townreading him for it. I could see a world where she's trying to pocket someone who wolfread her opener. She herself admitted that he's good at reading her, so she might be trying to fool him specifically."

(once again altered so as not to be a direct copy/paste)

this kinda feels like TMI in the case of spf actually flipping wolf so he looks towny

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:43 pm**

he spends most of the time talking about those two pretending like he thinks c4 is the wolf and spf as either a villager or the partner so that kinda came out of left field

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:44 pm**

IMMEDIATELY after that read which felt like a TMI read he says
"On c4/dya, I think v/w is possible after all but I'm leaning toward c4 being the wolf if anything. Dya's play is too overtly bad in hindsight to come from a wolf fmpov. They suicided into a VT who wasn't playing the game, for two phases, and did nothing else. Is their wolfgame that awful?"

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:44 pm**

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:42 pm i posted this earlier but like

"SPF/c4 might be w/v in c4's favor. I could see the hard shield being a pocket. Remember their day 1 interaction? C4 came in dancing around an early wolfread on SPF and SPF ended up townreading him for it. I could see a world where she's trying to pocket someone who wolfread her opener. She herself admitted that he's good at reading her, so she might be trying to fool him specifically."

(once again altered so as not to be a direct copy/paste)

this kinda feels like TMI in the case of spf actually flipping wolf so he looks towny

mmmmmmmmmmmmm

weh

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:44 pm**

which did end up being a tmi read if c4 is town

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:44 pm**

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:38 pm "If he's W then he's been metashielded for no reason and in that case SPF's wolf equity skyrockets."

tying c4 to spf fsdklf;asdjf;asldkjf

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:44 pm**

Yeah on the basis of that happy clearing C4 I think

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:45 pm**

Nutella, if you are town, just know vulgard talked about you and arete in much the same way
all he said is you are both villagers
he gave no reasons for you, and the only reason for arete was "Soulread"
so idk

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:46 pm**

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:45 pm Nutella, if you are town, just know vulgard talked about you and arete in much the same way
all he said is you are both villagers
he gave no reasons for you, and the only reason for arete was "Soulread"
so idk

yeah, tbf his dynamic with arete is different, but i think arete is more likely v here and would go spf before them atm

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:46 pm**

vulgard the soulread god

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:47 pm**

I've been afraid to say it in case i'm wrong but arete's treatment of vulgard the day he died feels like arete is a villager

the way they started hard defending him as a possible night kill into slowly realizing that he was more or less lolcatting near end of day and the paranoid posts when vulgard was silent feels very very villagey from arete

I dont think arete is the last wolf currently

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:48 pm**

another thing about spf, she talked about how hard she went after dya but... i dont remember that really, obv i'm a bit biased but i feel like visor and i were the main pushers of dya throughout the game

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:49 pm**

I think the last wolf is in syn/dizzy/spf

SPF turning on c4 is more or less what i'd expect when the noose of the PoE starts shrinking onto them as we near the endgame

Syn just has like
no reason to townread him at all

and dizzy i still feel felt agenda-ey to me the day vulgard died, even if they've explained their thought processes

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:49 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:48 pm another thing about spf, she talked about how hard she went after dya but... i dont remember that really, obv i'm a bit biased but i feel like visor and i were the main pushers of dya throughout the game

maybe i am misremembering but same

i was a bit perplexed by spf saying "how could you possibly think this was a bus?" (or whatever it was) while also admitting she hardbusses as a wolf, idk ... seems in hardbus range to me?

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm**

yeah if this is wrong my legacy is it's just spf glgl

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm**

@staypositivefriend can you show me what posts you made about dya that you think wouldn't come from you as a wolf?

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm**

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:49 pm I think the last wolf is in syn/dizzy/spf

SPF turning on c4 is more or less what i'd expect when the noose of the PoE starts shrinking onto them as we near the endgame

Syn just has like
no reason to townread him at all

and dizzy i still feel felt agenda-ey to me the day vulgard died, even if they've explained their thought processes

i generally agree with these but idk if i will ever be comfortable clearing arete

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:48 pm another thing about spf, she talked about how hard she went after dya but... i dont remember that really, obv i'm a bit biased but i feel like visor and i were the main pushers of dya throughout the game

oh come on now, dya was my top scumread for 3 entire days and i made a point of bringing up my concerns about them constantly. i've accepted that i'm not getting "cleared" for my push (even though i honestly should), but to say that i wasn't a primary pusher of them is just factually untrue

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:51 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm yeah if this is wrong my legacy is it's just spf glgl

quit pretendin' like you're dying
i'm the one who perishes today, you've gotta fill my shoes and catch the last one tomorrow if this is wrong

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:51 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:48 pm another thing about spf, she talked about how hard she went after dya but... i dont remember that really, obv i'm a bit biased but i feel like visor and i were the main pushers of dya throughout the game
oh come on now, dya was my top scumread for 3 entire days and i made a point of bringing up my concerns about them constantly. i've accepted that i'm not getting "cleared" for my push (even though i honestly should), but to say that i wasn't a primary pusher of them is just factually untrue

why should you get cleared for the push when youre a hard busser by meta

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:52 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm
Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:49 pm I think the last wolf is in syn/dizzy/spf

SPF turning on c4 is more or less what i'd expect when the noose of the PoE starts shrinking onto them as we near the endgame

Syn just has like
no reason to townread him at all

and dizzy i still feel felt agenda-ey to me the day vulgard died, even if they've explained their thought processes
i generally agree with these but idk if i will ever be comfortable clearing arete

i give permission to vote arete in final 3 but not before imo unless you all are 10,000,000,000% certain on them

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:52 pm**

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:53 pm**

why did you all wait until the very end to talk about anything smh

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:53 pm**

wait i found the holy grail in the vulgard neighborhood

before the night ended he posted this, a critical piece of spew

i can't believe i overlooked this

he said:

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:54 pm**

hey guys guess what

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:54 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:54 pm hey guys guess what

chicken butt?

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:54 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:54 pm hey guys guess what

by following sunbae we've won by doing absolutely nothing?

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm**

What are frogs

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:51 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:48 pm another thing about spf, she talked about how hard she went after dya but... i dont remember that really, obv i'm a bit biased but i feel like visor and i were the main pushers of dya throughout the game
oh come on now, dya was my top scumread for 3 entire days and i made a point of bringing up my concerns about them constantly. i've accepted that i'm not getting "cleared" for my push (even though i honestly should), but to say that i wasn't a primary pusher of them is just factually untrue
why should you get cleared for the push when youre a hard busser by meta

"SPF busses as a wolf" doesn't mean that i'm not allowed to get towncred when i spend the entirety of the game pushing for a wolf to get killed - my trajectory on dya (and the way that dya played around me) should make it very obvious that we aren't W/W. i constantly interrogated dya and kept pressure on them while still never being fully confident about their alignment (because i dont have TMI)

if im gonna hardbus my partner for an ENTIRE game, then you can be sure that you're going to remember my push when all things are said and done. the fact that you presumably don't even remember me pushing on dya should indicate to you that my push wasnt an attempt at theatre or an attempt to townclear myself

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:54 pm
Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:54 pm hey guys guess what
chicken butt?

fuck this was actually what I was going to say

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm**

I hate you zacakery

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm**

im still also set off by vulgard's early focus on spf in his first post (that dya conveniently ignored?!?) that was then pulled back from

including that he pointed out she hadnt done her trademark wolfclaim lol

and her reaction to my pressure at various points has pinged me too

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm**

Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm @staypositivefriend can you show me what posts you made about dya that you think wouldn't come from you as a wolf?

if the game isnt over in 5 minutes, then yeah

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:56 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm
Marluxion wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm @staypositivefriend can you show me what posts you made about dya that you think wouldn't come from you as a wolf?
if the game isnt over in 5 minutes, then yeah

if the game isn't over in 5 minutes i'm frickin toasted so show arete instead
I appoint them as my replacement IC

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:56 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:55 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:51 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:50 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:48 pm another thing about spf, she talked about how hard she went after dya but... i dont remember that really, obv i'm a bit biased but i feel like visor and i were the main pushers of dya throughout the game
oh come on now, dya was my top scumread for 3 entire days and i made a point of bringing up my concerns about them constantly. i've accepted that i'm not getting "cleared" for my push (even though i honestly should), but to say that i wasn't a primary pusher of them is just factually untrue
why should you get cleared for the push when youre a hard busser by meta
"SPF busses as a wolf" doesn't mean that i'm not allowed to get towncred when i spend the entirety of the game pushing for a wolf to get killed - my trajectory on dya (and the way that dya played around me) should make it very obvious that we aren't W/W. i constantly interrogated dya and kept pressure on them while still never being fully confident about their alignment (because i dont have TMI)

if im gonna hardbus my partner for an ENTIRE game, then you can be sure that you're going to remember my push when all things are said and done. the fact that you presumably don't even remember me pushing on dya should indicate to you that my push wasnt an attempt at theatre or an attempt to townclear myself

alright

well i hope the game ends in five minutes then

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm**

it won't

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm**

Well gl us

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm**

I'm here
For a couple seconds

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm**

this game is JJJ's stanford prison experiment

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm**

night 5

bronana was killed. he was: an inspiration to us all.

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:58 pm**

Syn wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm this game is JJJ's stanford prison experiment

of dubious merit and highly unethical?

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:58 pm**

toasted marlmallow with nutella on a bronana

damn that sounds good

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:58 pm**

If this is wrong I'll need nut to hold my hand all the way through the Dizzy read

Posted: **Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:58 pm**

c4e5g3d5 wrote: ↑Mon Jun 07, 2021 5:57 pm I'm here
For a couple seconds

Wolfchat alerted you eh

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