The Syndicate

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm Just want to say that the way Marmot and I react to Dizzy's flip-floppiness are pretty opposite of each other tbh

What do you think of his flip-floppiness?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:33 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:32 pm Feels a lot like the falcon and DrWilgy mislynches which happened because of a seemingly lack of any other option.

Why don't we consider one of Alison and Jay then?

Ok who is most likely wolf between them?

That's for you to decide.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:34 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:32 pm [VOTE: NateTheLesser] aubergine

why

He's wrongly voting me + barely receiving any attention

@NateTheLesser

Time is of the essence, Creature, so you should do something with this

Alison what is your take on me

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:33 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:32 pm Feels a lot like the falcon and DrWilgy mislynches which happened because of a seemingly lack of any other option.

Why don't we consider one of Alison and Jay then?

Ok who is most likely wolf between them?

I've been asking you the same thing lol.

I don't know. Right now I'd say Alison. An hour ago, I'd say Jay.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm Just want to say that the way Marmot and I react to Dizzy's flip-floppiness are pretty opposite of each other tbh

What do you think of his flip-floppiness?

Townie. I made a post somewhere where I discuss it. Wait a sec

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:37 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:33 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:32 pm Feels a lot like the falcon and DrWilgy mislynches which happened because of a seemingly lack of any other option.

Why don't we consider one of Alison and Jay then?

Ok who is most likely wolf between them?

That's for you to decide.

Yes, but I don't know where I stand on them.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm Nate's process feels too clean for me to do that, also he had those flashes of emotion in Champs G1.

That's something I can look at later if it is possible, and if you can give me a sense for what that looked like or when it happened.

@Creature You got to realise that town will be sussing you and voting you considering how you are playing this game right now. I would be much, much, much more suspicious of those who are town reading you if I were you. This includes Jay, Alison and Ender tbh. Just my take. "Wrongly voting me" is not a good reason imo

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 5:45 pm trying to figure out Dizzy's wolf agenda in being so openly flip-flopping with me

maybe it is a hope that if dizzy flips before me i would look bad?
But my impression of Dizzy is that Dizzy does not play wolf to get yeeted.

so like this is also not helping their case in pocketing me.
Therefore the need is to uh look like they are fake concerned about me? I guess?

Or they really are paranoid about me
Is hard when I dont have much to work with there :wowee:

@Marmot

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm Just want to say that the way Marmot and I react to Dizzy's flip-floppiness are pretty opposite of each other tbh

does this tell you something about Marmot

it made me want to scum read him because i am taking it chill and he is getting seemingly annoyed
but i got kinda burned for using myself as the frame on how one should react tbh

I'm annoyed because he seems to be flip-flopping on me, but has also at times in this game viewed me as strictly towncore and a partner-in-crime (but not the anti-town kind of crime).

I find it difficult to discuss his takes when many of them are "AHHHH I'm tinfoiling marmot again"


Why do you want to scumread that?

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm it made me want to scum read him because i am taking it chill and he is getting seemingly annoyed
but i got kinda burned for using myself as the frame on how one should react tbh

Why do you think you're taking Dizzy's stuff so chill, Boq

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:37 pm Alison what is your take on me

I have decided to just treat you as town but think you should be policied if you reach F3. I think you would most likely comfortably sit on me as mafia rather than change around.

I know Jay posted a case on you, I haven't actually read it yet. I doubt I will before EOD. If it changes anything for me I'll mention it.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:38 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm Nate's process feels too clean for me to do that, also he had those flashes of emotion in Champs G1.

That's something I can look at later if it is possible, and if you can give me a sense for what that looked like or when it happened.

Around Lord Tentei notably was when I Remember it.

I'll be honest I'm mostly running off memory.

I don't have the time to be 100% by checking things

I'm still hesitant to touch Alison today because I believe Mac is a good Alison reader and Seanzie immediately caught Alison in the Rave Master game. Mac had Alison as town and I don't remember Seanzie going after Alison this game.

@Alison I feel like if you truly were very worried I was mafia, you should've went many times harder on me and dug into me and challenged me. I've felt nothing of that sort.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 pm I'm still hesitant to touch Alison today because I believe Mac is a good Alison reader and Seanzie immediately caught Alison in the Rave Master game. Mac had Alison as town and I don't remember Seanzie going after Alison this game.

Hmmmm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm Around Lord Tentei notably was when I Remember it.

I'll be honest I'm mostly running off memory.

I don't have the time to be 100% by checking things

That'll have to work. I don't see myself supporting a Nate chop today, but if I am around in the future I will take a look.

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm Just want to say that the way Marmot and I react to Dizzy's flip-floppiness are pretty opposite of each other tbh

does this tell you something about Marmot

it made me want to scum read him because i am taking it chill and he is getting seemingly annoyed
but i got kinda burned for using myself as the frame on how one should react tbh

I'm annoyed because he seems to be flip-flopping on me, but has also at times in this game viewed me as strictly towncore and a partner-in-crime (but not the anti-town kind of crime).

I find it difficult to discuss his takes when many of them are "AHHHH I'm tinfoiling marmot again"


Why do you want to scumread that?

because i came to the opposte conclusion tbh
i dont see anything wolfy with that behaviour of dizzy tbh

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm @Creature You got to realise that town will be sussing you and voting you considering how you are playing this game right now. I would be much, much, much more suspicious of those who are town reading you if I were you. This includes Jay, Alison and Ender tbh. Just my take. "Wrongly voting me" is not a good reason imo

I look a lot like a juicy mislynch right now and a good parking slot for wolves to put their vote on without being questioned.

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:38 pm

EnderWiggin wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm Nate's process feels too clean for me to do that, also he had those flashes of emotion in Champs G1.

That's something I can look at later if it is possible, and if you can give me a sense for what that looked like or when it happened.

Around Lord Tentei notably was when I Remember it.

I'll be honest I'm mostly running off memory.

I don't have the time to be 100% by checking things

no this is correct

I keep forgetting fingersplints' existence

Where do you all stand on them?

@Creature how do you feel the Seanzie kill reflects on you?

On one hand, I am no longer confident this hits.

On the other hand, last time I opened D3 convinced a widely townread slot is wolf and was convinced not to push through they were actually wolf (Mac)

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:41 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm Just want to say that the way Marmot and I react to Dizzy's flip-floppiness are pretty opposite of each other tbh

does this tell you something about Marmot

it made me want to scum read him because i am taking it chill and he is getting seemingly annoyed
but i got kinda burned for using myself as the frame on how one should react tbh

I'm annoyed because he seems to be flip-flopping on me, but has also at times in this game viewed me as strictly towncore and a partner-in-crime (but not the anti-town kind of crime).

I find it difficult to discuss his takes when many of them are "AHHHH I'm tinfoiling marmot again"


Why do you want to scumread that?

because i came to the opposte conclusion tbh
i dont see anything wolfy with that behaviour of dizzy tbh

Opposite conclusion?

I still townread him, I'm just annoyed with him. What do you mean?

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:37 pm Alison what is your take on me

I have decided to just treat you as town but think you should be policied if you reach F3. I think you would most likely comfortably sit on me as mafia rather than change around.

I know Jay posted a case on you, I haven't actually read it yet. I doubt I will before EOD. If it changes anything for me I'll mention it.

ah yes, policied in f3. Sounds about right to bring my traditions to here tbh
to be perfectly honest, I expected you to wolf read me for my pushes on you and stuff (and for not producing many reads) so I am kinda surprised

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:42 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm @Creature You got to realise that town will be sussing you and voting you considering how you are playing this game right now. I would be much, much, much more suspicious of those who are town reading you if I were you. This includes Jay, Alison and Ender tbh. Just my take. "Wrongly voting me" is not a good reason imo

I look a lot like a juicy mislynch right now and a good parking slot for wolves to put their vote on without being questioned.

If you're town, I don't think wolves have to do even that. Pending Ender's alignment.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 pm @Alison I feel like if you truly were very worried I was mafia, you should've went many times harder on me and dug into me and challenged me. I've felt nothing of that sort.

I have three people I think are more likely to flip mafia than you, maybe two depending on how you count finger. There is no thread support for your exe. If you are mafia I nab you by catching your teammates (ex. by flipping Ender red) or by showing that you are pushing horrid world views (ex. by flipping Jay green). And the two pushes I am most interested in today are... Jay and Ender.

I am fine with where you are. I think your alignment will become clear by tomorrow, honestly.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:42 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm @Creature You got to realise that town will be sussing you and voting you considering how you are playing this game right now. I would be much, much, much more suspicious of those who are town reading you if I were you. This includes Jay, Alison and Ender tbh. Just my take. "Wrongly voting me" is not a good reason imo

I look a lot like a juicy mislynch right now and a good parking slot for wolves to put their vote on without being questioned.

Are you trying to be a juicy miselim?

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:43 pm @Creature how do you feel the Seanzie kill reflects on you?

I would've probably killed you or Alison or maybe Boquise if I was in charge of the nightkill last night.

I don't remember the Seanzie townreading me part and onlt saw you mentioned it somewhere.

@lucy how do you feel about the current situation

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:43 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:41 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:36 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:35 pm Just want to say that the way Marmot and I react to Dizzy's flip-floppiness are pretty opposite of each other tbh

does this tell you something about Marmot

it made me want to scum read him because i am taking it chill and he is getting seemingly annoyed
but i got kinda burned for using myself as the frame on how one should react tbh

I'm annoyed because he seems to be flip-flopping on me, but has also at times in this game viewed me as strictly towncore and a partner-in-crime (but not the anti-town kind of crime).

I find it difficult to discuss his takes when many of them are "AHHHH I'm tinfoiling marmot again"


Why do you want to scumread that?

because i came to the opposte conclusion tbh
i dont see anything wolfy with that behaviour of dizzy tbh

Opposite conclusion?

I still townread him, I'm just annoyed with him. What do you mean?

opposite reaction then tho i did actually think you wolf read them tbh

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 pm @Alison I feel like if you truly were very worried I was mafia, you should've went many times harder on me and dug into me and challenged me. I've felt nothing of that sort.

I have three people I think are more likely to flip mafia than you, maybe two depending on how you count finger. There is no thread support for your exe. If you are mafia I nab you by catching your teammates (ex. by flipping Ender red) or by showing that you are pushing horrid world views (ex. by flipping Jay green). And the two pushes I am most interested in today are... Jay and Ender.

I am fine with where you are. I think your alignment will become clear by tomorrow, honestly.

I think my alignment is already clear.

I think it's obvious Jay and Ender are not w/w.
Do you think there is at least one wolf among them?

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:43 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:42 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm @Creature You got to realise that town will be sussing you and voting you considering how you are playing this game right now. I would be much, much, much more suspicious of those who are town reading you if I were you. This includes Jay, Alison and Ender tbh. Just my take. "Wrongly voting me" is not a good reason imo

I look a lot like a juicy mislynch right now and a good parking slot for wolves to put their vote on without being questioned.

If you're town, I don't think wolves have to do even that. Pending Ender's alignment.

Welp do you think the falcon and DrWilgy mislynches happened without wolves' presence?

trying to debate whether wolf!Alison would really treat me like this tbh

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 pm I'm still hesitant to touch Alison today because I believe Mac is a good Alison reader and Seanzie immediately caught Alison in the Rave Master game. Mac had Alison as town and I don't remember Seanzie going after Alison this game.

Sean did catch Alison for a very specific posting style that she often doesn't engage in (joking), and I don't think she made that mistake again here.

Though Mac's ability to read her is a fair point.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:43 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:42 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:39 pm @Creature You got to realise that town will be sussing you and voting you considering how you are playing this game right now. I would be much, much, much more suspicious of those who are town reading you if I were you. This includes Jay, Alison and Ender tbh. Just my take. "Wrongly voting me" is not a good reason imo

I look a lot like a juicy mislynch right now and a good parking slot for wolves to put their vote on without being questioned.

If you're town, I don't think wolves have to do even that. Pending Ender's alignment.

Your top two suspects are me and Jay. Me and Jay are both serious contenders for today's exe. You should be feeling that wolves are under threat and eager to snap at misexes; what makes you think that they'd discount Creature as a way out?

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:43 pm @Creature how do you feel the Seanzie kill reflects on you?

I would've probably killed you or Alison or maybe Boquise if I was in charge of the nightkill last night.

I don't remember the Seanzie townreading me part and onlt saw you mentioned it somewhere.

Alright. With that in mind what do you think the Seanzie kill does mean?

I feel like resolving Ender who was already counterwagon both EOD1 and EOD2.

i really need to sleep

Boquise wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:45 pm opposite reaction then tho i did actually think you wolf read them tbh

Well he wasn't talking about you, so I don't find it that surprising.

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:46 pmWelp do you think the falcon and DrWilgy mislynches happened without wolves' presence?

Falcon, not really, cause there were ton of votes there. But mafia doesn't tend to flock on crowded mischops necessarily.
Wilgy, perhaps. Since I town read both Fingers and Ender, who were alternatives.

I need to go, there's backup issues I need to sort and me on this forum won't help.

IF I FLIP DO NOT GO AFTER DIZZY OR RONDO.

You can think about them if we actually get to f3, otherwise fuck off.

THERE IS AT MOST ONE WOLF IMO IN CREATURE/NATE/BOQ

I think there's a wolf in Nate but I don't think that's his partners if so, and if he's town I don't think more than one of Boq/Creature is wolf.

I THINK THERE'S AT LEAST ONE WOLF IN ALISON/JAY

This might be wrong and I'll feel stupid if I am but I believe it.

MARMOT/FINGER/LUCY PROBABLY HAS AT LEAST ONE WOLF IN IT

I am constantly revising this last part so eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeh

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:46 pm

Creature wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:45 pm

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:43 pm @Creature how do you feel the Seanzie kill reflects on you?

I would've probably killed you or Alison or maybe Boquise if I was in charge of the nightkill last night.

I don't remember the Seanzie townreading me part and onlt saw you mentioned it somewhere.

Alright. With that in mind what do you think the Seanzie kill does mean?

I don't know. It makes me slightly concerned about you or Alison because I feel like wolves would want to get rid of you two asap just like they got rid of Mac N1.

Creature saying he didn't know Sean townread him does seem like a very unpartnered comment.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:20 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:18 pm I think the bow/Alison/jjj could be wolf shear and if I had to shoot outside of that on that list it would be lucy then creature but lucy is widely town read so [VOTE: creature ] aubergine

What is "wolf shear"?

Two wolves or more pushing a similar but opposite agenda to get Towny feeling like something has been found and work is being done but really its just town being bamboozled

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:46 pmYour top two suspects are me and Jay. Me and Jay are both serious contenders for today's exe. You should be feeling that wolves are under threat and eager to snap at misexes; what makes you think that they'd discount Creature as a way out?

I don't think either of you or Jay will be chopped today.
And neither of you can vote Creature considering your previous stances on him.

I'm not sure what I think of anything tbh.

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:45 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:44 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 7:40 pm @Alison I feel like if you truly were very worried I was mafia, you should've went many times harder on me and dug into me and challenged me. I've felt nothing of that sort.

I have three people I think are more likely to flip mafia than you, maybe two depending on how you count finger. There is no thread support for your exe. If you are mafia I nab you by catching your teammates (ex. by flipping Ender red) or by showing that you are pushing horrid world views (ex. by flipping Jay green). And the two pushes I am most interested in today are... Jay and Ender.

I am fine with where you are. I think your alignment will become clear by tomorrow, honestly.

I think my alignment is already clear.

I think it's obvious Jay and Ender are not w/w.
Do you think there is at least one wolf among them?

Yes, and ideally we'd have those two as our competing wagons. If we get a hit on one of them it makes the game really easy to break open, because the other is cleared and we almost certainly have one mafia on the innocent player's wagon.