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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
I agreeFZ. wrote:the end could be "death note"

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What's the context?Ricochet wrote:How would it fit into context, though?Epignosis wrote:Surely the sixth word is the other part of the guy's name. Kyosuke.
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I love that movieDharmaHelper wrote:Don't call me Shirley.Epignosis wrote:Surely the sixth word is the other part of the guy's name. Kyosuke.







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The context of BWT's note. Two-letter word followed by "Kyosuke", followed by five-letter word. How would Kyosuke fit in context?Epignosis wrote:What's the context?Ricochet wrote:How would it fit into context, though?Epignosis wrote:Surely the sixth word is the other part of the guy's name. Kyosuke.
linki: good guess, FZ.
Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
DharmaHelper wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:Eiichi (RHZ) (SOLVED)
Takahashi (SIA) (SOLVED)
Your (TJB) (SOLVED)
win (UKC) (SOLVED)
condition (VLD): (SOLVED)
outlive (WME) (SOLVED)
Higuchi(XNF)(SOLVED)
~~~~(YOG)
~~(ZPH)
~~~~~~~(AQI)
~~~~~(BRJ)
[flash=]OR[/flash](CSK)
~~~(DTL)
a(EUM)(SOLVED)
Death(FVN)(SOLVED)
Note(GWO).(SOLVED)
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FZ. wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:Eiichi (RHZ) (SOLVED)
Takahashi (SIA) (SOLVED)
Your (TJB) (SOLVED)
win (UKC) (SOLVED)
condition (VLD): (SOLVED)
outlive (WME) (SOLVED)
Higuchi(XNF)(SOLVED)
~~~~(YOG)
~~(ZPH)
~~~~~~~(AQI)
~~~~~(BRJ)
OR(CSK)
~~~(DTL)
a(EUM)(SOLVED)
Death(FVN)(SOLVED)
Note(GWO).(SOLVED)
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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Damn it, it's not working for me today. The OR is supposed to be the first two letter word







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UpdatedFZ. wrote:FZ. wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:Eiichi (RHZ) (SOLVED)
Takahashi (SIA) (SOLVED)
Your (TJB) (SOLVED)
win (UKC) (SOLVED)
condition (VLD): (SOLVED)
outlive (WME) (SOLVED)
Higuchi(XNF)(SOLVED)
~~~~(YOG)
~~(ZPH)
~~~~~~~(AQI)
~~~~~(BRJ)
OR(CSK)
~~~(DTL) win?
a(EUM)(SOLVED)
Death(FVN)(SOLVED)
Note(GWO).(SOLVED)
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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
OK, so I think O is a good pick for a next letter. Could reveal anything with U (outline, survive) in first word of the condition, sadly nothing in the second if it is Higuchi, but then also hint if death (D) and note (E) are the last words. A bit too much from the U-X range in the first six words though.
If we pick V, then we could get hint of Higuchi (C) but nothing else, although maybe get more letters in the rest of the words.
This is too complicated to solve with one good letter reveal guess.
linki: or get a Death Note?
If we pick V, then we could get hint of Higuchi (C) but nothing else, although maybe get more letters in the rest of the words.
This is too complicated to solve with one good letter reveal guess.
linki: or get a Death Note?
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Also, DH, best not put (SOLVED) where we can't confirm it.
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I am 100% confident in everything with a Solved tag.Ricochet wrote:Also, DH, best not put (SOLVED) where we can't confirm it.
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I was saying "outlive" should be "Kyosuke." Makes perfect sense in context because it's the guy's name.Ricochet wrote:The context of BWT's note. Two-letter word followed by "Kyosuke", followed by five-letter word. How would Kyosuke fit in context?Epignosis wrote:What's the context?Ricochet wrote:How would it fit into context, though?Epignosis wrote:Surely the sixth word is the other part of the guy's name. Kyosuke.
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Ooh, ok, didn't get that. Although, I expect the first word to be a verb, as to condition to the win factors.Epignosis wrote:I was saying "outlive" should be "Kyosuke." Makes perfect sense in context because it's the guy's name.Ricochet wrote:The context of BWT's note. Two-letter word followed by "Kyosuke", followed by five-letter word. How would Kyosuke fit in context?Epignosis wrote:What's the context?Ricochet wrote:How would it fit into context, though?Epignosis wrote:Surely the sixth word is the other part of the guy's name. Kyosuke.
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His win condition starts with his last name, then what?Epignosis wrote:I was saying "outlive" should be "Kyosuke." Makes perfect sense in context because it's the guy's name.Ricochet wrote:The context of BWT's note. Two-letter word followed by "Kyosuke", followed by five-letter word. How would Kyosuke fit in context?Epignosis wrote:What's the context?Ricochet wrote:How would it fit into context, though?Epignosis wrote:Surely the sixth word is the other part of the guy's name. Kyosuke.
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Yes indeed!FZ. wrote:Russ, while you're here, can you actually talk about the players and what you think about them?
As I said before, I think TH has made it clear through his behavior that lynching him is a waste of time. Llama has seemed to be his normal, slightly wacky, gun-ho baddie-hunting self. I started out thinking Epi seemed really bad, but have flipped my stance since he thought he would potentially be lynched and came off as very genuine. Hopefully most of that could be gleaned from my previous posts and votes. I have agreed with most everything Rico has said. He was one of the ones not sad about Yotsuba dying (although clearly lynching them shouldn't be a priority). He's also posted helpful analysis, so even though he suspects me I'm doubtful that he's bad.
boo I started off being absolutely convinced was detective. Then he had a spat with...Epi, I think? Since then I've read him as somewhat grumpy and with a MAJOR dose of tunnel-vision. I'm worried that shut down his interest in the game, and I'm trying to decide whether I think it's permanent. If he could go back to posting more analytically then I would feel a lot better about him. For example, his bea case was kind of a "believe, I promise I'm right" deal in the vein of Zomba's on Snowman, but that's not really boo's (best) play style like it is Zomba's. So I'm kinda waiting on the return of Detailed Analysis boo, but he has my eye for now.
I am a little worried about Elo. Her posts read to me as trying to justify why the baddies aren't bad, and that just doesn't seem like it can be a good sign. However, I usually rely on Epi's read of her to be sure, and he's refused to give one. That would make me worry about Epi too, normally. So I think there are 2 possibilities, and idk how to decide which one is better. Either what Epi posted about not being able to read Elo is true, or (and this would explain why Epi and Elo both aren't talking about it) maybe Epi knows Elo is bad and has decided it's unfair to call her out every single time, s he's just not getting involved.
Finally, I think there's a decent chance Made is bad. I will potentially vote there tomorrow, but I am trying to take a "wait and see" approach based on his recent posts and whether better leads emerge.
This was on Day 1. So he's advocating not forgetting low posters, that's fine. But if we're looking at post-to-content ratio going forward, I think Made is at or near the top of that list.Made wrote:Catching up, page 30/45. But I felt the need to comment on this.
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I would be in the perfect position if i were a baddie this game. In the last 8 pages I read catching up, i was mentioned once, and it was a joke in passing. We need to make sure players like me or FZ seen above aren't slipping through the cracks. I'm not saying to vote low poster, but maybe general mindfulness of low post to content ratio?
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Made wrote:What's the general case on Snowman?
This is weird, because he was on Page 30 on Day 1. I don't see why he would lie about that, but it does seem weird to only read 5 pages and not say anything about how you're busy.Made wrote:Just looked the votes...didn't know there was so much steam on BWT, Snow, or llama. gonna look over BWT, prolly not going to vote FZ, solid maybe on Snowman. Need to read boo's case on llama.
I'm having trouble finding the case on BWT. quick help anyone?
Also, is there a case on Epi that i don't know about, surprised to see SVS go that way, that said, i've only read the last 5 pages, then back to page 30 or so.
D3:
I kind of expected a big post here, but 3 hours later on D3:Made wrote:Hello friends! this game is very busy and intimidating. That said, i have nothing to do till lynch, so lezzgo. Stand by.
Really? 3 hours of nothing but mafia (as you said yourself) isn't enough for one single opinion?Made wrote:Anyways, reading....nothing jumping out at me. This will sound stupid- because it is- but I literally don't have any leads as of yet, of, my own anyways. The case epi has on Dh seems like a stretch, but it merits, especially in the post that MM pointed out. That said I currently think Dh and Epi are both civvie just because to post so much ( i mean an argument the size of a page) and be bad would take a very strange kind of person I would never understand.
Anyways... either going to jump on bandwagon for accountability or self vote because I literally can't find the argument on Snowman.
Thought i'd given myself enough time to read everything and have options and all that jazz, but clearly i hadn't.
To be fair, on D4 he did post a lot of opinions on people, as well as some darned insightful analysis. So that makes me feel a little better about him. If it continues into D5 I could see myself voting elsewhere.
He did say one thing since then that bugs me a lot, though:
then, after taking votes from both me and bea in a fairly tight lynch...Made wrote:Random thought during AP Lit: While I kinda agree with it, isn't it kinda a cough out to vote TH and Russ? gonna check something....
Made wrote:I say that we start discussion with Russ and Bea. I'll take point tomorrow before I go to work, for now, my head hurts. done with mafia for a sec. might come back later tonight.








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That's a fair stance to have, but on the other hand, it would surely get me lynched. It's clear I have been in thread and am caught up. People have noted this multiple times. So why lie about something verifiable if I'm civ? Great way to get mistaken for a baddie and lynched, if you ask me.Ricochet wrote:I don't expect nor want him to reveal anything game related. In fact, if it is game related, I would expect him to do an apologetic post to save appearances. I think that was what I was saying in the first place.FZ. wrote:Oops, sorry. Yeah, I just quoted it to say that I don't think it garners the eye more because he's not apologizing. And after the Donner game, I don't expect Russ to say anything if it's game related.Ricochet wrote:Am I supposed to address anything in your post, FZ? Not sure why you quoted my exchange with Russ, except for the penultimate paragraph.
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I can't say what would "surely get you lynched". My impression was being absent twice already - my definition for "absent" here being: not posting; not posting even when you are visible in the thread or when people see that you are in the thread and expect to hear something from you - would surely get you lynched, but the others will have to chime in on this.Russtifinko wrote:That's a fair stance to have, but on the other hand, it would surely get me lynched. It's clear I have been in thread and am caught up. People have noted this multiple times. So why lie about something verifiable if I'm civ? Great way to get mistaken for a baddie and lynched, if you ask me.Ricochet wrote:I don't expect nor want him to reveal anything game related. In fact, if it is game related, I would expect him to do an apologetic post to save appearances. I think that was what I was saying in the first place.FZ. wrote:Oops, sorry. Yeah, I just quoted it to say that I don't think it garners the eye more because he's not apologizing. And after the Donner game, I don't expect Russ to say anything if it's game related.Ricochet wrote:Am I supposed to address anything in your post, FZ? Not sure why you quoted my exchange with Russ, except for the penultimate paragraph.
I haven't posted because I haven't wanted to post. End of story.
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That being said, thanks for your input given above.
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Higuchi is the surname. In Japan, his name would be Higuchi Kyosuke. Just thought the given name being present would make sense.DharmaHelper wrote:His win condition starts with his last name, then what?Epignosis wrote:I was saying "outlive" should be "Kyosuke." Makes perfect sense in context because it's the guy's name.Ricochet wrote:The context of BWT's note. Two-letter word followed by "Kyosuke", followed by five-letter word. How would Kyosuke fit in context?Epignosis wrote:What's the context?Ricochet wrote:How would it fit into context, though?Epignosis wrote:Surely the sixth word is the other part of the guy's name. Kyosuke.
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BWT was Eiichi Takahashi.Epignosis wrote:Higuchi is the surname. In Japan, his name would be Higuchi Kyosuke. Just thought the given name being present would make sense.DharmaHelper wrote:His win condition starts with his last name, then what?Epignosis wrote:I was saying "outlive" should be "Kyosuke." Makes perfect sense in context because it's the guy's name.Ricochet wrote:The context of BWT's note. Two-letter word followed by "Kyosuke", followed by five-letter word. How would Kyosuke fit in context?Epignosis wrote:What's the context?Ricochet wrote:How would it fit into context, though?Epignosis wrote:Surely the sixth word is the other part of the guy's name. Kyosuke.
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I guess they will. My point is, the host has made it clear in thread that I'm not X-Kira. I don't see how my behavior this game indicates that I'm any other Kira, either. So if you do want to go after me, admit it's not because you think I'm a certain role, it's just that you don't like how I play.Ricochet wrote:I can't say what would "surely get you lynched". My impression was being absent twice already - my definition for "absent" here being: not posting; not posting even when you are visible in the thread or when people see that you are in the thread and expect to hear something from you - would surely get you lynched, but the others will have to chime in on this.Russtifinko wrote:That's a fair stance to have, but on the other hand, it would surely get me lynched. It's clear I have been in thread and am caught up. People have noted this multiple times. So why lie about something verifiable if I'm civ? Great way to get mistaken for a baddie and lynched, if you ask me.Ricochet wrote:I don't expect nor want him to reveal anything game related. In fact, if it is game related, I would expect him to do an apologetic post to save appearances. I think that was what I was saying in the first place.FZ. wrote:Oops, sorry. Yeah, I just quoted it to say that I don't think it garners the eye more because he's not apologizing. And after the Donner game, I don't expect Russ to say anything if it's game related.Ricochet wrote:Am I supposed to address anything in your post, FZ? Not sure why you quoted my exchange with Russ, except for the penultimate paragraph.
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I feel like I'm not being understood. That's all right. I'll leave you guys to your decoding.
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Thanks!Russtifinko wrote:Yes indeed!FZ. wrote:Russ, while you're here, can you actually talk about the players and what you think about them?
As I said before, I think TH has made it clear through his behavior that lynching him is a waste of time. Llama has seemed to be his normal, slightly wacky, gun-ho baddie-hunting self. I started out thinking Epi seemed really bad, but have flipped my stance since he thought he would potentially be lynched and came off as very genuine. Hopefully most of that could be gleaned from my previous posts and votes. I have agreed with most everything Rico has said. He was one of the ones not sad about Yotsuba dying (although clearly lynching them shouldn't be a priority). He's also posted helpful analysis, so even though he suspects me I'm doubtful that he's bad.
boo I started off being absolutely convinced was detective. Then he had a spat with...Epi, I think? Since then I've read him as somewhat grumpy and with a MAJOR dose of tunnel-vision. I'm worried that shut down his interest in the game, and I'm trying to decide whether I think it's permanent. If he could go back to posting more analytically then I would feel a lot better about him. For example, his bea case was kind of a "believe, I promise I'm right" deal in the vein of Zomba's on Snowman, but that's not really boo's (best) play style like it is Zomba's. So I'm kinda waiting on the return of Detailed Analysis boo, but he has my eye for now.
I am a little worried about Elo. Her posts read to me as trying to justify why the baddies aren't bad, and that just doesn't seem like it can be a good sign. However, I usually rely on Epi's read of her to be sure, and he's refused to give one. That would make me worry about Epi too, normally. So I think there are 2 possibilities, and idk how to decide which one is better. Either what Epi posted about not being able to read Elo is true, or (and this would explain why Epi and Elo both aren't talking about it) maybe Epi knows Elo is bad and has decided it's unfair to call her out every single time, s he's just not getting involved.
Finally, I think there's a decent chance Made is bad. I will potentially vote there tomorrow, but I am trying to take a "wait and see" approach based on his recent posts and whether better leads emerge.
This was on Day 1. So he's advocating not forgetting low posters, that's fine. But if we're looking at post-to-content ratio going forward, I think Made is at or near the top of that list.Made wrote:Catching up, page 30/45. But I felt the need to comment on this.
[clipped for brevity]...
I would be in the perfect position if i were a baddie this game. In the last 8 pages I read catching up, i was mentioned once, and it was a joke in passing. We need to make sure players like me or FZ seen above aren't slipping through the cracks. I'm not saying to vote low poster, but maybe general mindfulness of low post to content ratio?
D2:Made wrote:What's the general case on Snowman?This is weird, because he was on Page 30 on Day 1. I don't see why he would lie about that, but it does seem weird to only read 5 pages and not say anything about how you're busy.Made wrote:Just looked the votes...didn't know there was so much steam on BWT, Snow, or llama. gonna look over BWT, prolly not going to vote FZ, solid maybe on Snowman. Need to read boo's case on llama.
I'm having trouble finding the case on BWT. quick help anyone?
Also, is there a case on Epi that i don't know about, surprised to see SVS go that way, that said, i've only read the last 5 pages, then back to page 30 or so.
D3:I kind of expected a big post here, but 3 hours later on D3:Made wrote:Hello friends! this game is very busy and intimidating. That said, i have nothing to do till lynch, so lezzgo. Stand by.Really? 3 hours of nothing but mafia (as you said yourself) isn't enough for one single opinion?Made wrote:Anyways, reading....nothing jumping out at me. This will sound stupid- because it is- but I literally don't have any leads as of yet, of, my own anyways. The case epi has on Dh seems like a stretch, but it merits, especially in the post that MM pointed out. That said I currently think Dh and Epi are both civvie just because to post so much ( i mean an argument the size of a page) and be bad would take a very strange kind of person I would never understand.
Anyways... either going to jump on bandwagon for accountability or self vote because I literally can't find the argument on Snowman.
Thought i'd given myself enough time to read everything and have options and all that jazz, but clearly i hadn't.
To be fair, on D4 he did post a lot of opinions on people, as well as some darned insightful analysis. So that makes me feel a little better about him. If it continues into D5 I could see myself voting elsewhere.
He did say one thing since then that bugs me a lot, though:then, after taking votes from both me and bea in a fairly tight lynch...Made wrote:Random thought during AP Lit: While I kinda agree with it, isn't it kinda a cough out to vote TH and Russ? gonna check something....Made wrote:I say that we start discussion with Russ and Bea. I'll take point tomorrow before I go to work, for now, my head hurts. done with mafia for a sec. might come back later tonight.Reads like a NO U to me. And a cop-out.
I think I agree on almost everything you said.
I actually had the same thought regarding Epi and Elo, so it's interesting you're thinking the same thing.
My problem with the Made case, and I know I sometimes expect too much of baddies, is that most people who play a certain way as a civ, won't completely flip and change their game when bad. The fact that Made said he literally has no idea where to go with his vote, make me feel he's genuine. I feel baddies try harder to "find" a case and go with it, while when civvies don't know where to go, they just say it. I know I've felt that way this game, so I can get why he feels that way.
Elo is also playing that card, but with her, it's that she doesn't know who is bad and who is good. Come on, that's what you're going for? Really? That doesn't sound genuine. Is it only me?







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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
I got it Epi. I'm just multitasking so I was confused.
Eiichi (RHZ) (SOLVED)
Takahashi (SIA) (SOLVED)
Your (TJB) (SOLVED)
win (UKC) (SOLVED)
condition (VLD): (SOLVED)
outlive (WME) Kyosuke
Higuchi(XNF)(SOLVED)
~~~~(YOG) Must
~~(ZPH) be
~~~~~~~(AQI)
~~~~~(BRJ)
OR(CSK)
~~~(DTL) win?
a(EUM)(SOLVED)
Death(FVN)(SOLVED)
Note(GWO).(SOLVED)
Eiichi (RHZ) (SOLVED)
Takahashi (SIA) (SOLVED)
Your (TJB) (SOLVED)
win (UKC) (SOLVED)
condition (VLD): (SOLVED)
outlive (WME) Kyosuke
Higuchi(XNF)(SOLVED)
~~~~(YOG) Must
~~(ZPH) be
~~~~~~~(AQI)
~~~~~(BRJ)
OR(CSK)
~~~(DTL) win?
a(EUM)(SOLVED)
Death(FVN)(SOLVED)
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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
I also agree with a lot of what Russ is saying. TH has indeed been brazen as an unlynchable (so far) player, although I don't thinking lynching him was a waste of time, because I agree with some of the variants on how we can build from that (especially Epig's). I can't properly charge Epig as bad even given his shenanigans. I am certain I'm not bad. Boo's cases were on the level until his bea case seemed more like an outburst than a grand reasoning and I too am waiting to hear more from him on that. I should probably re-read Elo based on Russ' suspicions, didn't pick up anything on that. Will think more on Made.
linki: What Epig points out suddenly makes sense. I can also start to see a condition such as "Higuchi Kyosuke must "
Dinner now. If MP agrees to offer a new letter, I say O.
linki: What Epig points out suddenly makes sense. I can also start to see a condition such as "Higuchi Kyosuke must "
Dinner now. If MP agrees to offer a new letter, I say O.
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This is a good point. I don't really view this game as a departure form Made's play style. He's still saying goofy things, like trying to get the Kira sympathizers and detectives to all win. And I think saying he has no idea is pretty common in previous games I've played with him. But your point about not "finding" a case is noted and makes me feel a little better about him. \FZ. wrote:
Thanks!
I think I agree on almost everything you said.
I actually had the same thought regarding Epi and Elo, so it's interesting you're thinking the same thing.
My problem with the Made case, and I know I sometimes expect too much of baddies, is that most people who play a certain way as a civ, won't completely flip and change their game when bad. The fact that Made said he literally has no idea where to go with his vote, make me feel he's genuine. I feel baddies try harder to "find" a case and go with it, while when civvies don't know where to go, they just say it. I know I've felt that way this game, so I can get why he feels that way.
Elo is also playing that card, but with her, it's that she doesn't know who is bad and who is good. Come on, that's what you're going for? Really? That doesn't sound genuine. Is it only me?
The Elo thing is definitely not only you. I could see a vote there for tomorrow as well.







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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Higuchi Kyosuke must be lynched twice to get a Death Note. 

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Takahashi (SIA) Your (TJB) win (UKC) condition (VLD):DharmaHelper wrote:UpdatedFZ. wrote:FZ. wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:DharmaHelper wrote:Eiichi (RHZ) (SOLVED)
Takahashi (SIA) (SOLVED)
Your (TJB) (SOLVED)
win (UKC) (SOLVED)
condition (VLD): (SOLVED)
outlive (WME) (SOLVED)
Higuchi(XNF)(SOLVED)
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Death(FVN)(SOLVED)
Note(GWO).(SOLVED)
Rico with the assist.
outlive (WME) Higuchi(XNF) ~~~~(YOG) OR(ZPH) ~~~~~~~(AQI) ~~~~~(BRJ) TO(CSK) WIN(DTL) a(EUM) Death(FVN) Note(GWO).







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Ricochet wrote:Higuchi Kyosuke must be lynched twice OR get a Death Note.

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Wow, that makes complete sense. It also could explain TH.Ricochet wrote:Higuchi Kyosuke must be lynched twice to get a Death Note.
Oh, well that also makes sense.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ricochet wrote:Higuchi Kyosuke must be lynched twice OR get a Death Note.


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So he's supposed to help Higuchi win a death note or get him lynched twice in order to win? Does that make sense?Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ricochet wrote:Higuchi Kyosuke must be lynched twice OR get a Death Note.







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I know TO makes sense theoretically, but it doesn't really qualify as a win condition. OR makes more sense for that scenario, and I also live in OR.Black Rock wrote:Wow, that makes complete sense. It also could explain TH.Ricochet wrote:Higuchi Kyosuke must be lynched twice to get a Death Note.
Oh, well that also makes sense.Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ricochet wrote:Higuchi Kyosuke must be lynched twice OR get a Death Note.
Linki: It does and doesn't at the same time.

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Anyone want another letter? 

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Since Higuchi cannot be killed until he gets a death note, lynching him twice won't do anything to him, so I think it's possible.FZ. wrote:So he's supposed to help Higuchi win a death note or get him lynched twice in order to win? Does that make sense?Metalmarsh89 wrote:Ricochet wrote:Higuchi Kyosuke must be lynched twice OR get a Death Note.

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Sounds like we're wrong though.

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No wait guys. I forgot E was already revealed in first word, so it can't be Higuchi
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It's Kyosuke though.Ricochet wrote:No wait guys. I forgot E was already revealed in first word, so it can't be Higuchi

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It wouldn't make any sense to address him as Kyosuke.Metalmarsh89 wrote:It's Kyosuke though.Ricochet wrote:No wait guys. I forgot E was already revealed in first word, so it can't be Higuchi
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I'm not sure what people mean when they are saying this.Ricochet wrote:I also agree with a lot of what Russ is saying. TH has indeed been brazen as an unlynchable (so far) player, although I don't thinking lynching him was a waste of time, because I agree with some of the variants on how we can build from that (especially Epig's). I can't properly charge Epig as bad even given his shenanigans. I am certain I'm not bad. Boo's cases were on the level until his bea case seemed more like an outburst than a grand reasoning and I too am waiting to hear more from him on that. I should probably re-read Elo based on Russ' suspicions, didn't pick up anything on that. Will think more on Made.
linki: What Epig points out suddenly makes sense. I can also start to see a condition such as "Higuchi Kyosuke must "
Dinner now. If MP agrees to offer a new letter, I say O.
Go back and read what I said again. If there is anyone who is great at doing the 'but this last post sounds really genuine' to turn suspicion into nothing when they're a baddie, it's bea. Case building against her like I do doesn't work. My goal was to channel SVS, because SVS is the best at reading her, and SVS is the best at getting her lynched when she's bad. I guess I did a poor job of it, but all it should really take is for people to reread bea and come to their own conclusion. I wasn't telling people to vote for Bea, I was explaining why I strongly believe bea is bad, and listed the reasons I had for it that worked in the style I wanted to use. But if you want to consider voting for her, you're going to need to do your own leg work, and if you have questions you'd like to see her answer, you're going to need to ask them. If you read her and don't agree then say it and move on, or better yet, explain why you think the reasons I gave for voting her are wrong. Just talking about it without saying anything of meaning isn't helping anyone, and I'm not sure why multiple people have felt the need to do so.
Another person said I could have substitued bea's name in that post with anyone and had it be true. I feel like that person isn't a case builder. I could take anyone in this thread and build a case like I do on them, with lots of quotes and reasons they've flipped on things, haven't followed their own internal logic, have baddie motives for voting how they have, why they'd NK LC and SVS, etc. Anyone could do that. It's doing it with people you actually suspect based on one small but important thing that launches something like that. With my reasons for voting bea, I couldn't do that same sort of swap in for any other player, that was very much built around how I think she plays as a civ and how she plays as a baddie.
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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Re: new letter (but feel free to think of others as well)
Ricochet wrote:OK, so I think O is a good pick for a next letter. Could reveal anything with U (outline, survive) in first word of the condition, sadly nothing in the second if it is Higuchi, but then also hint if death (D) and note (E) are the last words. A bit too much from the U-X range in the first six words though.
If we pick V, then we could get hint of Higuchi (C) but nothing else, although maybe get more letters in the rest of the words.
This is too complicated to solve with one good letter reveal guess.
linki: or get a Death Note?
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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
But what if we're not addressing him? What if we're talking about another player (the Yotsuba de facto leader).Ricochet wrote:It wouldn't make any sense to address him as Kyosuke.Metalmarsh89 wrote:It's Kyosuke though.Ricochet wrote:No wait guys. I forgot E was already revealed in first word, so it can't be Higuchi
Linki: I think O is good to go with Rico.

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Re: Death Note Mafia [NIGHT 4]
Why are you guys working on this puzzle? You're making it harder for the detectives to catch up.
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Says the Death God...Turnip Head wrote:Why are you guys working on this puzzle? You're making it harder for the detectives to catch up.

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Sorry Rico, just wanted to get that letter guess in before TH picked W. :P

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