The Syndicate

Typhoony wrote:Unlikely. He seemed genuinely frustrated to me.

Why should I vote MP according to you Mac?

I didn't say you should. I was asking if you would.

Just on account of you having voted for him yesterday and all.

juliets wrote:Enrique, who are you looking at for a vote?

sig is still my number one suspect but I haven't had time to put together something solid for the thread. I know EoD is approaching, I'm just swarmed with other stuff right now and it's hard to make time to actually get on my computer and analyze shit. I have some smaller stuff that I've posted but it's not getting much attention. juliets can you read the post I did make on him last night? Do you agree with his quoted interpretations?

MP is also likely bad but I think he can wait (especially if he's poisoned )

I don't see the case on Mac at all to be honest. I read TH's post making all these connections but they just looked like normal posts to me.

I don't think Typhoony is the Penguin, but I don't really have any reason to think he's a civ either. I'm interested in how this develops but I don't think he should be lynched today.

Typhoony wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Typhoony wrote:No.

The role of Penguin is far too delicate to ruin with obvious posting curses. By nature, that role has a low chance of survival because people will be able to figure out a lot of players that are not the Penguin and at some point, this will mean that people will know who the Penguin is.

That means the Penguin has to do everything in its power to NOT make it obvious that people are Penguin'd.

You sound like you've thought a lot about this.

About as much as I've thought about other roles.

Oh yeah tell me more about Joker, Riddler and Freeze.

People who think Typh is the Penguin, why would that make you want to lynch him as opposed to anyone else today? The Penguin wins by staying alive, I don't see why he can't be a civ-friendly role.

They have secrets. Except for Freezieboy. Who is not as interesting as Penguin.

Typhoony wrote:They have secrets. Except for Freezieboy. Who is not as interesting as Penguin.

But you said you have thought bout them all. And it's not like there hasn't been discourse and speculation about them...

Golden wrote:

Typhoony wrote:So I advocate that I'm here for 2 hours, telling people to ask me questions.

And I get a couple of people saying they are suspicious of me.

Hello. I'm here to answer your questions. I can't do shit with people telling me they're open to voting me.

I cant do shit with anything today. My vote is not going to be one full of questions, and whoever I vote for just has to deal with it. Sorry.

Attorney General > Typhoony.

I can't do shit with this either. I actually have time to participate for a couple of hours and I get this shit.

MacDougall wrote:

Typhoony wrote:They have secrets. Except for Freezieboy. Who is not as interesting as Penguin.

But you said you have thought bout them all. And it's not like there hasn't been discourse and speculation about them...

Ok I lied. I have not thought about Cop #4.

Typhoony wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

Typhoony wrote:They have secrets. Except for Freezieboy. Who is not as interesting as Penguin.

But you said you have thought bout them all. And it's not like there hasn't been discourse and speculation about them...

Ok I lied. I have not thought about Cop #4.

You are 100 percent The Penguin. Thanks for playing.

Bullzeye wrote:People who think Typh is the Penguin, why would that make you want to lynch him as opposed to anyone else today? The Penguin wins by staying alive, I don't see why he can't be a civ-friendly role.

I am more confident that I am not voting for a civ.

Do you wanna make a bet on that?

Typhoony wrote:Do you wanna make a bet on that?

So you are cop 4 then?

I asked a question first.

Typh's a nub, but he ain't that nubby.

Typhoony wrote:I asked a question first.

No I don't bet on such things. I said I am more confident, not that I am certain. Such gambits are also not in the spirit of the game.

I swear on the grave of my ancestors etc.

Typh is cop 4.

no u

linki: that was to Dom

Linki to Mac: You said you were 100 percent, that's more than just "more confident". What's with the backtracking?

Typhoony wrote:no u

linki: that was to Dom

Linki to Mac: You said you were 100 percent, that's more than just "more confident". What's with the backtracking?

Your wanna bet post sounded sincere.

Hyperbole is not a scum tell Typh.

But backtracking can be.

I'm voting Mac. Not really for anything in this exchange, mostly THs points.

Goodnight nubs.

Ok thanks for reading my posts Typh.

Typhoony wrote:But backtracking can be.

So can being supatown. So can voting for literal Mafia. So can making up scumtells to immediately precede a vote.

I'm confused the evidence points to Typhoony being Penguin but because he says "I'm not" the evidence doesn't matter?

How does the evidence point more at him than you?

DharmaHelper wrote:I'm confused the evidence points to Typhoony being Penguin but because he says "I'm not" the evidence doesn't matter?

One thing we're overlooking, I think, is that no one has to do what the Penguin says. Could be that his first victim (or victims) didn't care if their rivals received info..

actually, what if Enrique were the Penguin all along? I mean, he did get a change of heart for Matt after voting him...do we know when the Penguin learns the role he votes for?
This would also line up for Matt's penchant for Elizabethan bravado today...

It would also explain why Enrique has been contributing while also flipping the table over in all his reads.

Thoughts?

I'm probably gonna vote for BR. I've just been waiting to see if she was going to respond.

Also, just something I was wondering is how do we know that it's not Matt who was cursed by the Penguin?

Enrique wrote:How does the evidence point more at him than you?

There's no evidence SVS was Penguined, whereas Dr Wilgy was killed before anything could be said one way or the other.

What if Scotty was the Penguin it would explain why he votes for low posters that are never gonna show up.

This is a silly exercise.

linki- "there's no evidence" there we go

Golden wrote:

Typhoony wrote:So I advocate that I'm here for 2 hours, telling people to ask me questions.

And I get a couple of people saying they are suspicious of me.

Hello. I'm here to answer your questions. I can't do shit with people telling me they're open to voting me.

I cant do shit with anything today. My vote is not going to be one full of questions, and whoever I vote for just has to deal with it. Sorry.

Attorney General > Typhoony.

Wow. You sound just like MP when he is in a pissy mood. Just deal with it. Who are you?

I think Typh is too tricky to so something this obvious, plus he does not play WIFOM games as Lorab is suggesting.

I need to do a lot of fast catch up.

Linki, yeah that's a good point. Knock Knock jokes are not the same as insanification.

Linki again, if I was Penguined I don't know about it. But then I don't think you OR Typh would do something like "You have to mention your number one suspect in every post"

Last linki was at DH

Typhoony basically just no u voted Mac, I don't like that.

His defense for not being Penguin is that he wouldn't be that nooby, I disagree I think it is more likely he is the Penguin then not.

He has to be alive at the end of game to win, we are then letting one cop loose, plus Typhoony's job would be to get us to end game ASAP, that means he isn't siding with the civs and it would probably be easier to win with the mafia. Leaving him alive is dangerous as Mac said the longer he is here the more powerful and dangerous he becomes. I think he would be a good lynch candidate today simply since the Penguin isn't pro civ, and could in fact do more damage to the civs then the mafia.


Is there anything on Mac besides his Nero interactions?


linki: Juliets, the Penguin doesn't seem like the type to curse someone, unless you mean that is what he is blackmailing him into doing?

sig wrote:Typhoony basically just no u voted Mac, I don't like that.

His defense for not being Penguin is that he wouldn't be that nooby, I disagree I think it is more likely he is the Penguin then not.

He has to be alive at the end of game to win, we are then letting one cop loose, plus Typhoony's job would be to get us to end game ASAP, that means he isn't siding with the civs and it would probably be easier to win with the mafia. Leaving him alive is dangerous as Mac said the longer he is here the more powerful and dangerous he becomes. I think he would be a good lynch candidate today simply since the Penguin isn't pro civ, and could in fact do more damage to the civs then the mafia.


Is there anything on Mac besides his Nero interactions?


linki: Juliets, the Penguin doesn't seem like the type to curse someone, unless you mean that is what he is blackmailing him into doing?

Yes sig thats exactly what I meant. The Penguin could be blackmailing Matt to speak in Shakespearean quotes.

Okay true.

And hey Dom,

after combing through your posts looking for a divisive post that better illustrates what I'm talking about, I think I might be mistaken.

I took a step back and realized that what I perceived as prickly was just a stubbornness and miscommunication between us. You were riding me pretty hard Day 1, and heightened my perception of you as a bully. Taking a step back objectively, I can see your frustration from the cacophony that was Day 1 and actually relate to it. When you backed off from me in the subsequent days, I found your distancing from me as a suspect unnerving since you were gunning at me so hard early on. I'm going to back down from my initial read of you, because not only can I not for the life of me find an exact quote that can back me up.

So I apologize. This doesn't absolve you of badness, but you are no longer a high profile suspicion of mine. I read you as maybe civ, probably neutral.

S~V~S wrote:

Golden wrote:

Typhoony wrote:So I advocate that I'm here for 2 hours, telling people to ask me questions.

And I get a couple of people saying they are suspicious of me.

Hello. I'm here to answer your questions. I can't do shit with people telling me they're open to voting me.

I cant do shit with anything today. My vote is not going to be one full of questions, and whoever I vote for just has to deal with it. Sorry.

Attorney General > Typhoony.

Wow. You sound just like MP when he is in a pissy mood. Just deal with it. Who are you?

I think Typh is too tricky to so something this obvious, plus he does not play WIFOM games as Lorab is suggesting.

I need to do a lot of fast catch up.

Linki, yeah that's a good point. Knock Knock jokes are not the same as insanification.

Linki again, if I was Penguined I don't know about it. But then I don't think you OR Typh would do something like "You have to mention your number one suspect in every post"

I sound like that?

Also, you all should vote for sig; he's my number one suspect for a reason, you know!

Scotty wrote:And hey Dom,

after combing through your posts looking for a divisive post that better illustrates what I'm talking about, I think I might be mistaken.

I took a step back and realized that what I perceived as prickly was just a stubbornness and miscommunication between us. You were riding me pretty hard Day 1, and heightened my perception of you as a bully. Taking a step back objectively, I can see your frustration from the cacophony that was Day 1 and actually relate to it. When you backed off from me in the subsequent days, I found your distancing from me as a suspect unnerving since you were gunning at me so hard early on. I'm going to back down from my initial read of you, because not only can I not for the life of me find an exact quote that can back me up.

So I apologize. This doesn't absolve you of badness, but you are no longer a high profile suspicion of mine. I read you as maybe civ, probably neutral.

Yo Scotty, who are you going to vote for and why?

Maybe you should vote for sig, my number one suspect.

Night 2
on Matt
Enrique (5), Scotty (10), Bullzeye (11),Nerolunar (12), sabie12 (25) 16%

Night 1 other voters

lovedelic/sabie?
1
Scotty (12)
4%

DrWilgy
4
Bullzeye (14)

Sabie = No vote.

I doubt if Scotty was Penguin he would have voted for lovedelic night 1. In theory Bull's could be Penguin, however I think it is much more likely that Typhoony is Penguin.

If Matt is the rRiddler his power could increase every time someone mentioned/interacted with his cures. Or Matt could be mafia and he is just doing this so he won't be lynched. Though I doubt that is the case.

Sabie could also be the penguin, but then MP condition isn't explained which is the main reason I thought Typh was the Penguin. For Typh saying he isn't a noob this is true, however MP might still be able to find a loophole for the blackmailing.

TH I'm surprised you are thinking to voat BR instead of Mac since BR has not yet responded to the accusations. Is there a reason you are not looking at Mac after the case you made? What I mean by that is are you less sure of some of the conclusions you drew in the case? Bottom line, I'm wondering why BR not Mac.

sig, The Penguin role says he makes you do whatever he wants. I took that to be a cursing role.

I have been doing the "sig BOTD everyone always thinks he's bad" thing, but that post just got my eye super big time. It seems almost as opportunistic to me as THs case on you did on Day One.

Linki @ MP, the "just deal with it" bit. That is word for word what you said to me in some game or another lol.

EBWOP: vote not voat

S~V~S wrote:sig, The Penguin role says he makes you do whatever he wants. I took that to be a cursing role.

I have been doing the "sig BOTD everyone always thinks he's bad" thing, but that post just got my eye super big time. It seems almost as opportunistic to me as THs case on you did on Day One.

Linki @ MP, the "just deal with it" bit. That is word for word what you said to me in some game or another lol.

Oh, I don't remember that.

I'm fine with lynches of BR, Mac, or Typhoony today. But I'd prefer sig since he's my number one suspect!

See you all later!

juliets wrote:TH I'm surprised you are thinking to voat BR instead of Mac since BR has not yet responded to the accusations. Is there a reason you are not looking at Mac after the case you made? What I mean by that is are you less sure of some of the conclusions you drew in the case? Bottom line, I'm wondering why BR not Mac.

Yes, Mac's responses made me less sure of my case on him. I think the connections are there but it could also be a series of coincidences and he's civ. I still don't like that he's claiming to cheerlead that lynch lol but whatever. I've still got my eye on him but I think my BR case is more straightforward.

sig why did you cross me out I'm not dead yet

Hey TH, who won the Big Daddy contest? :P

Turnip Head wrote:

juliets wrote:TH I'm surprised you are thinking to voat BR instead of Mac since BR has not yet responded to the accusations. Is there a reason you are not looking at Mac after the case you made? What I mean by that is are you less sure of some of the conclusions you drew in the case? Bottom line, I'm wondering why BR not Mac.

Yes, Mac's responses made me less sure of my case on him. I think the connections are there but it could also be a series of coincidences and he's civ. I still don't like that he's claiming to cheerlead that lynch lol but whatever. I've still got my eye on him but I think my BR case is more straightforward.

I have not seen your case on Mac yet, or BR, this thread is a bitch. I don't particularly think he sounds bad, and I have no opinion at all on her; what were your points? Or can you link me to them?

juliets wrote:Also, just something I was wondering is how do we know that it's not Matt who was cursed by the Penguin?

That's what I'm thinking now. Matt didn't seem to be offering any riddles with his quotes, just gabbering towards an end goal. It sounds like a convoluted task that the Penguin would devise.

And if that's the case, we'd be looking at this:
Matt
5
Enrique (5), Scotty (10), Bullzeye (11), Nerolunar (12), sabie12 (25) 16%

We know Nero isn't the penguin.
I am not the Penguin.
Enrique is a candidate, though sig didn't exhibit anything special on D2. So maybe not
sabie12 is a candidate, since lovedelic didn't vote in D1, so no one would have been affected.
Bullz voted Wilgy on D1, and we didn't get to see what he would have done.

Huh. I think Bullz and sabie are better candidates for Penguin now.

linki- looks like sig already started looking.

But I still think this rings more true, sig.

Turnip Head wrote:

juliets wrote:TH I'm surprised you are thinking to voat BR instead of Mac since BR has not yet responded to the accusations. Is there a reason you are not looking at Mac after the case you made? What I mean by that is are you less sure of some of the conclusions you drew in the case? Bottom line, I'm wondering why BR not Mac.

Yes, Mac's responses made me less sure of my case on him. I think the connections are there but it could also be a series of coincidences and he's civ. I still don't like that he's claiming to cheerlead that lynch lol but whatever. I've still got my eye on him but I think my BR case is more straightforward.

OK, that fits into my belief that he made good responses to the charges. The BR case is straightforward I just am having trouble looking at a vote there because she hasn't responded.

S~V~S wrote:

Turnip Head wrote:

juliets wrote:TH I'm surprised you are thinking to voat BR instead of Mac since BR has not yet responded to the accusations. Is there a reason you are not looking at Mac after the case you made? What I mean by that is are you less sure of some of the conclusions you drew in the case? Bottom line, I'm wondering why BR not Mac.

Yes, Mac's responses made me less sure of my case on him. I think the connections are there but it could also be a series of coincidences and he's civ. I still don't like that he's claiming to cheerlead that lynch lol but whatever. I've still got my eye on him but I think my BR case is more straightforward.

I have not seen your case on Mac yet, or BR, this thread is a bitch. I don't particularly think he sounds bad, and I have no opinion at all on her; what were your points? Or can you link me to them?

Here 's my case on BR http://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewto ... 09#p233509

Enrique wrote:sig why did you cross me out I'm not dead yet

You voted for me day 1 and I wasn't blackmailed, so the chances of you being the Penguin is little to none.

@SVS how was my last post opportunistic seeming?

@Scotty Yes it could be either of them. I also just realized it could be someone else, but I need to check it out real quick first.