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I didnt say worse though think Sprityo (who I somehow forgot in the last post) looks bad by that measure. Dom and Nanook do too.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:17 pmI’ll grant you that Jack might look bad in relation to Radishes/sabie. I haven’t looked closely at him, but I have reason to be wary of him. I don’t know if I’d say he looks worse than sig, and even if he does we’d still have one more person on that team. Who else looks worse than sig?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:14 pmThe primary reasons for reading Sig as scum are by virtue of knowing I am scum, which I am not and through interactions with dead scum, which I agree look bad but I think Jack and a few others look bad by this measure too.
Jack is revelling in this dichotomy and has somehow skated by again. I think he's bad and fostering this false dichotomy. If Sig is not Jack's partner then he is not Mafia, and I don't think Jack would be playing this way if his partner was up for lynch.
Sig is right about how it's strange that people who have tunneled me are now voting him. It reminds me of another game I played where the Mafia kept the primary mislynch bait alive and kept knocking off other civilians. I think that lynching Sig is being led by the other scum faction.
sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:30 pm Also also everyone's gonna feel really dumb that they're not picking up what I was laying down role wise and gonna mislynch me again. But this always happens on goc so whatever like I said I was pissed about it still am but not like this be the first, second, or like fifth time I'm mislynchredfor dumb shit
.....Well now I'm paranoid that there's still a chance I'm wrong about you. Don't do that.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:37 pm Oh and there are like 7 ways a civ could get info on a night kill just saying.
Not that that was even a main feature of my case. I'm literally being lynched off of 2 posts and a minor theory I made at like 0 dark thirty as I was brainstorming something like I said I do all the time and almost everyone on wasvon should be aware of that.
I basically forgot sprityo was even playing this tame. What has he done?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:20 pmI didnt say worse though think Sprityo (who I somehow forgot in the last post) looks bad by that measure. Dom and Nanook do too.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:17 pmI’ll grant you that Jack might look bad in relation to Radishes/sabie. I haven’t looked closely at him, but I have reason to be wary of him. I don’t know if I’d say he looks worse than sig, and even if he does we’d still have one more person on that team. Who else looks worse than sig?MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:14 pmThe primary reasons for reading Sig as scum are by virtue of knowing I am scum, which I am not and through interactions with dead scum, which I agree look bad but I think Jack and a few others look bad by this measure too.
Jack is revelling in this dichotomy and has somehow skated by again. I think he's bad and fostering this false dichotomy. If Sig is not Jack's partner then he is not Mafia, and I don't think Jack would be playing this way if his partner was up for lynch.
Sig is right about how it's strange that people who have tunneled me are now voting him. It reminds me of another game I played where the Mafia kept the primary mislynch bait alive and kept knocking off other civilians. I think that lynching Sig is being led by the other scum faction.
mmmmaybeTurnip Head wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:21 pm Don't forget that Jimmy is definitely maybe bad, we gotta squeeze him on to one of these teams
Ummmmmm spicy?
You're blowing up my brain so close to EOD. I haven't looked closely at Jack because I'm shit at reading him. Maybe I have time to look at him now though, or at least his ties to Radish and sabie.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:18 pm Masters team = Sloonei, nutella + +
Anti monitor team = Jack +
There are a range of players who could go either way. Dom, Nanook, Jay, Epi. Heaps more tbh.
Actually piqued by the idea of Sloonei and nutella being teammates now that I've said it. They've sparred like teammates do iirc.
And then MacDougall gets lynched instead, which is apparently the itinerary for Day 4 as I understand it. What's it matter?
My inclination is to lean town on her, but that’s not based on anything concrete. I like her progression on sig: she started out by mocking me for bringing him up as a suspect but quickly came around on the case. It looked like vintage nutella.
The ghost of Dyslexicon laid out a plan for isolating the last remaining member of sig’s supposed team. Also sig is more bad than Mac.
I'm a few posts from that red wall. I'll get there, though it will be after my 7pm EST deadline probably.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:27 pmThe ghost of Dyslexicon laid out a plan for isolating the last remaining member of sig’s supposed team. Also sig is more bad than Mac.
I looked again, and the only halfway positive thing I see you say about Radish came in your one Day 2 post. And that was a conditional statement: if Radish does X, I will move him down my list. When I look at Day 1 when you were able to speak freely, nearly every time you mentioned Radish you stuck Nanook's name alongside him. It just smells like bullshit.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 6:49 pm I cant say mych re sabie except throughout day 2 her posts were alot more defensive and scummy which is why she was down in my list.
But I was focusing on the people who had silenced me and my solid read
Radish my read evolved the main scum read was the fact of his slip and I was pursuing my larger lead with intent to lynch him if nanook was bad. Otherwise I found radish later content to be civvie especially compared to mac.
If there are farts on your wagon who are they
He's your teammate lol. He could be on the master team even if you're not.
Jack and Sprityo are the main contenders.
gimme a quick sentence on JackMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pmJack and Sprityo are the main contenders.
See this is what I mean. You are comfortable slagging off Sloonei in a way only teammates are. You've been saying this stuff for ages and haven't bothered doing anything with it. You're just distancing.
I could not find that in the roles.
"My team told me I should actually try since I might live."
LOL
Jack has equity with Sabie and Radishes. Jack is the primary catalyst of this wagon formation. Jack doesn't care about the roof.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmgimme a quick sentence on JackMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pmJack and Sprityo are the main contenders.
That's a pretty decent thought. I'd say another major issue is the whole thing about nanook being linked to radish and how he has characterized that in retrospect. It's contradictory and everything about it smells like bullshit.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pm My smoking gun with sig is a specific moment in his handling of Radishes: during sig’s lone Day 2 post, he suggests that he had laid out his thoughts on Radishes in an ISO somewhere, but a thorough investigation of sig’s posts reveals absolutely no substantiated read on Radishes. If there’s a slip, it’s that. It has the feel of a player who had intended to produce a bullshit case on his teammate, but then never got around to it and simply forgot that was the case.
Nah. I've just had bigger fish to fry. He's helping with the sig thing. I'll come for him once the AM team is neutralized as per Dizzy's plan.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmSee this is what I mean. You are comfortable slagging off Sloonei in a way only teammates are. You've been saying this stuff for ages and haven't bothered doing anything with it. You're just distancing.
Well I would do that.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:39 pmNah. I've just had bigger fish to fry. He's helping with the sig thing. I'll come for him once the AM team is neutralized as per Dizzy's plan.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmSee this is what I mean. You are comfortable slagging off Sloonei in a way only teammates are. You've been saying this stuff for ages and haven't bothered doing anything with it. You're just distancing.
You're doing the same thing sig did, trying to link one of your teammates to a civ.
Sloonei, just playing devils advocate, I liked this point when you first made it but couldn't it be that town sig had started making notes on a Radish case but then never presented it and thought he had? I'm just trying to make sure, Mac has shaken my resolve a bit.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pm My smoking gun with sig is a specific moment in his handling of Radishes: during sig’s lone Day 2 post, he suggests that he had laid out his thoughts on Radishes in an ISO somewhere, but a thorough investigation of sig’s posts reveals absolutely no substantiated read on Radishes. If there’s a slip, it’s that. It has the feel of a player who had intended to produce a bullshit case on his teammate, but then never got around to it and simply forgot that was the case.
Sloonei's observation about this seems to be sound. sig, point the way to the Radish-related content you were referring to here.
Yeah this checks out. I had been townreading him earlier but mainly for generic/stylistic reasons, and I do kind of get the sense that he hasn't been really trying to do the legwork of hunting.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:36 pmJack has equity with Sabie and Radishes. Jack is the primary catalyst of this wagon formation. Jack doesn't care about the roof.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmgimme a quick sentence on JackMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pmJack and Sprityo are the main contenders.
k. Fuck the word "equity" straight to hell, but re: sig sure. I didn't look at sabie. I'll look at sabie.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:36 pmJack has equity with Sabie and Radishes. Jack is the primary catalyst of this wagon formation. Jack doesn't care about the roof.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmgimme a quick sentence on JackMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pmJack and Sprityo are the main contenders.
Jay slipped! Get him fam.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:45 pmk. Fuck the word "equity" straight to hell, but re: sig sure. I didn't look at sabie. I'll look at sabie.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:36 pmJack has equity with Sabie and Radishes. Jack is the primary catalyst of this wagon formation. Jack doesn't care about the roof.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmgimme a quick sentence on JackMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pmJack and Sprityo are the main contenders.
I hope that my towniness will show through once sig’s team is neutralized anyway, so whatever.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:39 pmNah. I've just had bigger fish to fry. He's helping with the sig thing. I'll come for him once the AM team is neutralized as per Dizzy's plan.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmSee this is what I mean. You are comfortable slagging off Sloonei in a way only teammates are. You've been saying this stuff for ages and haven't bothered doing anything with it. You're just distancing.
You're doing the same thing sig did, trying to link one of your teammates to a civ.
lolololoolMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:46 pmJay slipped! Get him fam.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:45 pmk. Fuck the word "equity" straight to hell, but re: sig sure. I didn't look at sabie. I'll look at sabie.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:36 pmJack has equity with Sabie and Radishes. Jack is the primary catalyst of this wagon formation. Jack doesn't care about the roof.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmgimme a quick sentence on JackMacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pmJack and Sprityo are the main contenders.
Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:46 pmI hope that my towniness will show through once sig’s team is neutralized anyway, so whatever.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:39 pmNah. I've just had bigger fish to fry. He's helping with the sig thing. I'll come for him once the AM team is neutralized as per Dizzy's plan.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmSee this is what I mean. You are comfortable slagging off Sloonei in a way only teammates are. You've been saying this stuff for ages and haven't bothered doing anything with it. You're just distancing.
You're doing the same thing sig did, trying to link one of your teammates to a civ.
How would that even make senseIt’s possible. But I’ve pressed sig on this issue throughout the day and he hasn’t provided anything close to a satisfactory answer to this point, or any point relating to Radishes, which leads me to believe that he’s shaken and trying to downplay it because he doesn’t have a good answer in him.juliets wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:42 pmSloonei, just playing devils advocate, I liked this point when you first made it but couldn't it be that town sig had started making notes on a Radish case but then never presented it and thought he had? I'm just trying to make sure, Mac has shaken my resolve a bit.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:33 pm My smoking gun with sig is a specific moment in his handling of Radishes: during sig’s lone Day 2 post, he suggests that he had laid out his thoughts on Radishes in an ISO somewhere, but a thorough investigation of sig’s posts reveals absolutely no substantiated read on Radishes. If there’s a slip, it’s that. It has the feel of a player who had intended to produce a bullshit case on his teammate, but then never got around to it and simply forgot that was the case.
I’m fucking crushing it right now, but most of my efforts are gravitating towards one team. Once they’re gone, the tinfoil can be lifted from me.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:47 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:46 pmI hope that my towniness will show through once sig’s team is neutralized anyway, so whatever.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:39 pmNah. I've just had bigger fish to fry. He's helping with the sig thing. I'll come for him once the AM team is neutralized as per Dizzy's plan.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmSee this is what I mean. You are comfortable slagging off Sloonei in a way only teammates are. You've been saying this stuff for ages and haven't bothered doing anything with it. You're just distancing.
You're doing the same thing sig did, trying to link one of your teammates to a civ.
No, that's consistent with you being on the Master team. Once you also crush the Master team, perhaps you meantSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:53 pmI’m fucking crushing it right now, but most of my efforts are gravitating towards one team. Once they’re gone, the tinfoil can be lifted from me.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:47 pmSloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:46 pmI hope that my towniness will show through once sig’s team is neutralized anyway, so whatever.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:39 pmNah. I've just had bigger fish to fry. He's helping with the sig thing. I'll come for him once the AM team is neutralized as per Dizzy's plan.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:34 pmSee this is what I mean. You are comfortable slagging off Sloonei in a way only teammates are. You've been saying this stuff for ages and haven't bothered doing anything with it. You're just distancing.
You're doing the same thing sig did, trying to link one of your teammates to a civ.
But of course you could bus all your partners and claim the credit.... that's far fetched tho, especially since I've already got you on notice.Now read her.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:52 pm I did a very quick scan of what Jack said about sabie and it made me shrug. He spoke ill of sabie with moderate frequency. Given that she wasn't lynched, there's no good way to assess what pressure he may have put on her in the context of some eventual lynch. I wouldn't call them incompatible; it doesn't scream at me either.