The Syndicate

would post cap role at all be town?

I'm trying to rationalize what's going on and I'm basically just confused

so mac wasn’t the nk target, which we kinda knew

and either nook or jpic is lying and post capped him. so we have at least a 50/50 on outing another mafia

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:12 pm would post cap role at all be town?

it could be but it's >rand wolf

the real thing that's wolfy about it though is that no one claimed it

Can we still talk?

but like. hm. weird.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:13 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:12 pm would post cap role at all be town?

it could be but it's >rand wolf

the real thing that's wolfy about it though is that no one claimed it

yea if it was town jpic or nook would have claimed it but they didn’t so one of them is confirmed mafia

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:05 pm

Day 2



’This is a roundup.’

sprityo has been eliminated. He was...

Spoiler: show

Burn the Witch.
Album: A Moon Shaped Pool
(Mafia)

'Abandon all reason, avoid all eye contact, do not react, shoot the messengers.’
You may select a player not aligned with you each Night. If that player is eliminated the following day, you begin the next day with -2 votes against you in the poll.
You will also receive a report on any vote manipulation associated with that player on that day; any vote cast by or against your target with a value other than 1 will be reported to you.
Additionally, on two separate nights, you can target a player to falsify any reports they might receive. You may not target the same player twice with this ability.

It is Night 2. Players will have 22 hours to submit their night actions.
The thread will remain open tonight.

Yay, vindication!

Also Tim is almost cleared of being mafia now because he spent the entire day phase trying to murder a wolf above all else in a situation where bussing makes 0 sense.

If JPIC is the postcapper and wolf, he wanted to take the chop today. It would look really good for sprityo to have targeted someone a confirmed wolf targeted and all that. So why didn't that happen?

I think I.m gonna go back to sleep. Would catch up to the thread this time around.

the postcapper should be dead and I should be lockclearing sprityo til day 5 right now

It's possible I'm wrong about thr Watcher role.

It probably comes down to cultural differences.

It's a PR role though!

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:05 pm

Day 2



’This is a roundup.’

sprityo has been eliminated. He was...

Spoiler: show

Burn the Witch.
Album: A Moon Shaped Pool
(Mafia)

'Abandon all reason, avoid all eye contact, do not react, shoot the messengers.’
You may select a player not aligned with you each Night. If that player is eliminated the following day, you begin the next day with -2 votes against you in the poll.
You will also receive a report on any vote manipulation associated with that player on that day; any vote cast by or against your target with a value other than 1 will be reported to you.
Additionally, on two separate nights, you can target a player to falsify any reports they might receive. You may not target the same player twice with this ability.

It is Night 2. Players will have 22 hours to submit their night actions.
The thread will remain open tonight.

Yay, vindication!

Also Tim is almost cleared of being mafia now because he spent the entire day phase trying to murder a wolf above all else in a situation where bussing makes 0 sense.

wait why does this clear tim? because he wanted sprit over jpic? but jpic can be maf too

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:15 pm the postcapper should be dead and I should be lockclearing sprityo til day 5 right now

well mac forced the yeet onto sprit so wolves couldn’t do much about it

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:15 pm It's possible I'm wrong about thr Watcher role.

It probably comes down to cultural differences.

It's a PR role though!

is this important to you?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:05 pm

Day 2



’This is a roundup.’

sprityo has been eliminated. He was...

Spoiler: show

Burn the Witch.
Album: A Moon Shaped Pool
(Mafia)

'Abandon all reason, avoid all eye contact, do not react, shoot the messengers.’
You may select a player not aligned with you each Night. If that player is eliminated the following day, you begin the next day with -2 votes against you in the poll.
You will also receive a report on any vote manipulation associated with that player on that day; any vote cast by or against your target with a value other than 1 will be reported to you.
Additionally, on two separate nights, you can target a player to falsify any reports they might receive. You may not target the same player twice with this ability.

It is Night 2. Players will have 22 hours to submit their night actions.
The thread will remain open tonight.

Yay, vindication!

Also Tim is almost cleared of being mafia now because he spent the entire day phase trying to murder a wolf above all else in a situation where bussing makes 0 sense.

wait why does this clear tim? because he wanted sprit over jpic? but jpic can be maf too

jpic being maf and a postcapper would mean that tim wanted jpic over sprit. mafia should have wanted the post capper to die

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:15 pm the postcapper should be dead and I should be lockclearing sprityo til day 5 right now

well mac forced the yeet onto sprit so wolves couldn’t do much about it

yeah but good to look back on

should i be worried that every post i read from herm is about whether watcher is a good role

what about the flipped mafia though

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:18 pm should i be worried that every post i read from herm is about whether watcher is a good role

what about the flipped mafia though

you should maybe be worried but it's a really weird line for scum to take, no?

Am I confirmed now yet or...?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:16 pm

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:14 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:05 pm

Day 2



’This is a roundup.’

sprityo has been eliminated. He was...

Spoiler: show

Burn the Witch.
Album: A Moon Shaped Pool
(Mafia)

'Abandon all reason, avoid all eye contact, do not react, shoot the messengers.’
You may select a player not aligned with you each Night. If that player is eliminated the following day, you begin the next day with -2 votes against you in the poll.
You will also receive a report on any vote manipulation associated with that player on that day; any vote cast by or against your target with a value other than 1 will be reported to you.
Additionally, on two separate nights, you can target a player to falsify any reports they might receive. You may not target the same player twice with this ability.

It is Night 2. Players will have 22 hours to submit their night actions.
The thread will remain open tonight.

Yay, vindication!

Also Tim is almost cleared of being mafia now because he spent the entire day phase trying to murder a wolf above all else in a situation where bussing makes 0 sense.

wait why does this clear tim? because he wanted sprit over jpic? but jpic can be maf too

I sort of think if I was Tim in this spot and my wolf buddy got murdered D1 and then the entire wolf team was in the POE I would not believe that bussing was a winning line. I'd try to push nanook.

That said, it sort of doesn't matter regardless because it doesn't clear Tim of being the Rogue, which was the main charge levelled against them.

It's also important to note that sprityo was caught targeting Mac last night, so unless mafia have two investigation-fuckery roles (which is prima facie fairly unlikely), I would say that there is less chance of investigations being misled.

the d3 yeet has to be between jpic and nook. don’t deviate from this. kill one and if they aren’t post capper kill the other

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm Am I confirmed now yet or...?

unfortunately no but I think you should be so don't worry

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm Am I confirmed now yet or...?

I don't think you are? I think some people argued there was a difference check between you and sprityo but I can't remember the reasoning. I reserve the right to clear you at any time if someone can give me a good argument why sprityo W means you are V though.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:19 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:18 pm should i be worried that every post i read from herm is about whether watcher is a good role

what about the flipped mafia though

you should maybe be worried but it's a really weird line for scum to take, no?

i mean maybe but im probably gonna kill it though

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm Am I confirmed now yet or...?

unfortunately no but I think you should be so don't worry

Good enough for me!

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm Am I confirmed now yet or...?

no but there’s one mafia in you/jpic and if he flips anything except post-capper you’re getting turboed

Why I don't have a post cap

If I did I would've just claimed it and said I trolled joe kek

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:23 pm Why I don't have a post cap

If I did I would've just claimed it and said I trolled joe kek

ok but if it’s not jpic its you sooooo

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:22 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm Am I confirmed now yet or...?

no but there’s one mafia in you/jpic and if he flips anything except post-capper you’re getting turboed

oh right this is true, we haven't accounted for the post capper

this is why I hate mechanics. I'm decent at them if I put in the time but it's just so boring, ugh

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:15 pm the postcapper should be dead and I should be lockclearing sprityo til day 5 right now

well mac forced the yeet onto sprit so wolves couldn’t do much about it

Not to be obnoxious here, but while I am willing to share credit I was raving about the mechanically correct not chopping JPIC LOMG before Mac "forced the Yeet." You really do just ignore me it seems like. I'm hurt. Hurt I say.

i have now played five cumulative game days with spf

scum has been killed on all five

spf is too powerful

I'm out for the night, will be back in the morning!

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:25 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:15 pm the postcapper should be dead and I should be lockclearing sprityo til day 5 right now

well mac forced the yeet onto sprit so wolves couldn’t do much about it

Not to be obnoxious here, but while I am willing to share credit I was raving about the mechanically correct not chopping JPIC LOMG before Mac "forced the Yeet." You really do just ignore me it seems like. I'm hurt. Hurt I say.

Tim seems to be having too much fun to be a wolf or alternatively Tim is having fun and is therefore a wolf

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:25 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:17 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:15 pm the postcapper should be dead and I should be lockclearing sprityo til day 5 right now

well mac forced the yeet onto sprit so wolves couldn’t do much about it

Not to be obnoxious here, but while I am willing to share credit I was raving about the mechanically correct not chopping JPIC LOMG before Mac "forced the Yeet." You really do just ignore me it seems like. I'm hurt. Hurt I say.

oh yea that’s true but tony was making a general point that wasn’t about you as far as i could tell

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:26 pm I'm out for the night, will be back in the morning!

gn!

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:41 pm The mafia role cop's song name is Nude. I do not know who they are.

wait, hold the phone.

there's a mafia role cop?

suspicion of JPIC just shot up like 200%, since claiming town cop is the obvious thing to do if you're a mafia cop

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:17 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:15 pm It's possible I'm wrong about thr Watcher role.

It probably comes down to cultural differences.

It's a PR role though!

is this important to you?

Not really.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:28 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:41 pm The mafia role cop's song name is Nude. I do not know who they are.

wait, hold the phone.

there's a mafia role cop?

suspicion of JPIC just shot up like 200%, since claiming town cop is the obvious thing to do if you're a mafia cop

doesn't work jpic suspected of being post capper
i mean
could be both but

scums roles seem to be multi-parted so he could be both

mafia role cop targeting mac makes so much sense with sprityo targeting mac to fuck up his night results. for scum to make good use of screwing with mac's night reports, they have to figure out what role he is so they can manipulate him most effectively. for instance if they role cop him as an alignment cop they might try to figure out which false red checks he has and play in a way that frames those checks so they can send him down the wrong path.

If JPIC is Role Cop, that means he rolecopped MacDougall at the same time Sprityo killed him?

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:29 pm scums roles seem to be multi-parted so he could be both

yeah, this. scum roles are pretty large and powerful in this game. could easily be a role cop that post caps whoever they cop. or a post capper that role cops whoever they cap!

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:28 pm

Poison Chan wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:41 pm The mafia role cop's song name is Nude. I do not know who they are.

wait, hold the phone.

there's a mafia role cop?

suspicion of JPIC just shot up like 200%, since claiming town cop is the obvious thing to do if you're a mafia cop

I nominally agree, and role copping while hitting him with the results screw is a viable combination.

either way we should be turboexeing JPIC imo, since he has post capper equity and role cop equity and is just horribly scummy all around

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:31 pm If JPIC is Role Cop, that means he rolecopped MacDougall at the same time Sprityo killed him?

oh boy

someone clue me in on where we're at with MR

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:31 pm either way we should be turboexeing JPIC imo, since he has post capper equity and role cop equity and is just horribly scummy all around

Well, barring some really good report from JPIC in regards to his actions tonight I think I agree.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:26 pm i have now played five cumulative game days with spf

scum has been killed on all five

spf is too powerful

pretty sure that it's physically impossible for us to lynch wrong when we're in a game together