The Syndicate

i will be hardpushing on JPIC tomorrow and not stopping

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:05 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:23 pm

tutuu wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 4:19 pm what argument even?

Town Watcher being the most powerful town role period?

it is tho

I mean this is a silly debate because it lacks context. It depends so much on the setup. If we're only going by common town roles, then cop is better in a mostly vanilla game, while Watcher is great in role madness games where you can get a lot of info off a single watch. Vigilante is by far the most powerful in the hands of someone with good reads, and by far the least powerful in the hands of someone with bad reads, etc.

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:07 pm im gay

nice mindmeld, you're town

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:34 pm someone clue me in on where we're at with MR

MR claimed to have graverobbed Nutella power and protected Alison last night, which seems to account for the no kill.

However there is some question based on what Alison was told by Sloonei that she may have been jailkept or roleblocked.

It is plausible that some town Jailkeeper actually did the save, but why Radishes would make a fake claim out of the blue into a counter is an issue.

I am inclined to believe Radishes for the most part here.

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:34 pm someone clue me in on where we're at with MR

he's town

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:37 pm

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:07 pm im gay

nice mindmeld, you're town

the classic "im gay" towntell, it works every time!

There are now 20 players, and 80% plus of them are civilians. I know that was probably obvious and useless, but I just got my "this is your power tonight" notice.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:40 pm There are now 20 players, and 80% plus of them are civilians. I know that was probably obvious and useless, but I just got my "this is your power tonight" notice.

so exactly 4 non town left?

3 wolves one rogue?

this might actually be a town win

Yeah...that tracks TSP.

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:42 pm Yeah...that tracks TSP.

get spec chat in here to call this a joat soft

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:34 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:26 pm i have now played five cumulative game days with spf

scum has been killed on all five

spf is too powerful

pretty sure that it's physically impossible for us to lynch wrong when we're in a game together

clearly

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:41 pm 3 wolves one rogue?

dope

Ok someone let me know when everyone can accept that I’m cleared and/or when I need to start trying again

Well tim, I still don't trust you but you are loking a bit better now

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:21 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:19 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:18 pm should i be worried that every post i read from herm is about whether watcher is a good role

what about the flipped mafia though

you should maybe be worried but it's a really weird line for scum to take, no?

i mean maybe but im probably gonna kill it though

Let me know in advance first lol.

jpic
[nude]
wolf

could be nanook i guess someone say that I tmied

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:45 pm Ok someone let me know when everyone can accept that I’m cleared and/or when I need to start trying again

I'm leaning that you are a third party post capper myself, with unknown additional and almost certainly dangerous powers, so I think you shouldn't relax yet.

nanook probably can get away with the claim but I'm still not sure why JPIC couldn't have

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:45 pm Ok someone let me know when everyone can accept that I’m cleared and/or when I need to start trying again

I'm leaning that you are a third party post capper myself, with unknown additional and almost certainly dangerous powers, so I think you shouldn't relax yet.

If I had post capped joe I 100% would’ve claimed it and trolled him kek

i still think herm is town!

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:22 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm Am I confirmed now yet or...?

no but there’s one mafia in you/jpic and if he flips anything except post-capper you’re getting turboed

Oh right. Mac said two negative actions happened to him last night.

I assume Sprityo was the one sent for the kill.

Not sure if they would send a Role Cop as well?

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:50 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:45 pm Ok someone let me know when everyone can accept that I’m cleared and/or when I need to start trying again

I'm leaning that you are a third party post capper myself, with unknown additional and almost certainly dangerous powers, so I think you shouldn't relax yet.

If I had post capped joe I 100% would’ve claimed it and trolled him kek

no you wouldn't, you'd have been turboexed if you claimed a postcap on mac since no town does that

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:51 pm i still think herm is town!

I am town.

Don't kill me.

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:51 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:50 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:45 pm Ok someone let me know when everyone can accept that I’m cleared and/or when I need to start trying again

I'm leaning that you are a third party post capper myself, with unknown additional and almost certainly dangerous powers, so I think you shouldn't relax yet.

If I had post capped joe I 100% would’ve claimed it and trolled him kek

no you wouldn't, you'd have been turboexed if you claimed a postcap on mac since no town does that

I mean

I’m pretty sure I could get away with claiming it on joe specifically

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:51 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:22 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:20 pm Am I confirmed now yet or...?

no but there’s one mafia in you/jpic and if he flips anything except post-capper you’re getting turboed

Oh right. Mac said two negative actions happened to him last night.

I assume Sprityo was the one sent for the kill.

Not sure if they would send a Role Cop as well?

Mac was not targeted for killing last night. I believe your derpclear though!

Sprityo was sent to mess with Mac's night results ([mention]MacDougall[/mention] make sure you see this bit, just in case you did have mech info from night actions) and we think JPIC might have role copped him. it's unclear what nanook did, some think he post capped mac. another possibility is that JPIC did the post cap.

I already claimed what I did, if I target the NK I get an extra vote the next day. It isn’t that unclear tbh, either you believe my claim or you think I’m lying, either way pretty clear!

Oh, I thought the negative actions implied attacks.

No one else said anything surviving attacks.

I get it, my bad.

So in that case, they probably rolecopped him.

I should not be sussed for wanting jpic to die today and spirit to die tomorrow

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm nanook probably can get away with the claim but I'm still not sure why JPIC couldn't have

Nanook claimed "witness at the NK and get rewarded a second vote."

I can see JPIC as "role cop that also post caps" but honestly I think post capper conflicts with "screw up Mac's results." Like I'd want Macposting as much as possible if I screwed up his results.

So I'm thinking the post capper is third party.

I know, everyone thinks I'm the third party, bet we'll deal with that bridge later.

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm I should not be sussed for wanting jpic to die today and spirit to die tomorrow

hmm raising questions that haven't yet been posed?

I guess I do that all the time so it's not exactly a bad thing

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:58 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm I should not be sussed for wanting jpic to die today and spirit to die tomorrow

hmm raising questions that haven't yet been posed?

Yes

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm I already claimed what I did, if I target the NK I get an extra vote the next day. It isn’t that unclear tbh, either you believe my claim or you think I’m lying, either way pretty clear!

Well...there is a middle ground called I acknowledge that you MIGHT be lying.

Lovely night we're having

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm Oh, I thought the negative actions implied attacks.

No one else said anything surviving attacks.

I get it, my bad.

So in that case, they probably rolecopped him.

i wanna believe this derp tbh

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:59 pm Lovely night we're having

It is.

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:59 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm Oh, I thought the negative actions implied attacks.

No one else said anything surviving attacks.

I get it, my bad.

So in that case, they probably rolecopped him.

i wanna believe this derp tbh

I do

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm I already claimed what I did, if I target the NK I get an extra vote the next day. It isn’t that unclear tbh, either you believe my claim or you think I’m lying, either way pretty clear!

when I said unclear I meant that there are a few possibilities.

1) you could be town and did what you said you did

2) you could be mafia and post capped nanook

3) you could be mafia and did something else unspecified to nanook, while jpic your buddy post capped nanook (this one is less likely since it involves the whole mafia team going to top town's house, but I have to cover the possibility)

4) you could be rogue and did something nefarious to nanook (collecting his song name for your soup kill, dousing him in gas, post capping him, whatever) while JPIC and sprityo role copped + misled nanook

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:58 pm

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm I already claimed what I did, if I target the NK I get an extra vote the next day. It isn’t that unclear tbh, either you believe my claim or you think I’m lying, either way pretty clear!

Well...there is a middle ground called I acknowledge that you MIGHT be lying.

That’s...I already said the “you think I’m lying” option tho

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm nanook probably can get away with the claim but I'm still not sure why JPIC couldn't have

Nanook claimed "witness at the NK and get rewarded a second vote."

I can see JPIC as "role cop that also post caps" but honestly I think post capper conflicts with "screw up Mac's results." Like I'd want Macposting as much as possible if I screwed up his results.

So I'm thinking the post capper is third party.

I know, everyone thinks I'm the third party, bet we'll deal with that bridge later.

i don’t think post capper necessarily conflicts with the result tampering

doesn’t matter though. the post capper isn’t town or they would have claimed. so whether they’re 3p or scum doesn’t matter. we’re just killing jpic and if he’s not the capper we’re killing nook

Like if you thought that there was no way in hell that jpic was a town cop you'd want him gone first

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm nanook probably can get away with the claim but I'm still not sure why JPIC couldn't have

Nanook claimed "witness at the NK and get rewarded a second vote."

I can see JPIC as "role cop that also post caps" but honestly I think post capper conflicts with "screw up Mac's results." Like I'd want Macposting as much as possible if I screwed up his results.

So I'm thinking the post capper is third party.

I know, everyone thinks I'm the third party, bet we'll deal with that bridge later.

we'll find out after we exe JPIC!

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:00 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:59 pm

Herm wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm Oh, I thought the negative actions implied attacks.

No one else said anything surviving attacks.

I get it, my bad.

So in that case, they probably rolecopped him.

i wanna believe this derp tbh

I do

i also do

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:58 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:58 pm

Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:56 pm I should not be sussed for wanting jpic to die today and spirit to die tomorrow

hmm raising questions that haven't yet been posed?

Yes

luckily I was the only one on this track and I had no intention of reading back to find who it was going to implicate

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm nanook probably can get away with the claim but I'm still not sure why JPIC couldn't have

Nanook claimed "witness at the NK and get rewarded a second vote."

I can see JPIC as "role cop that also post caps" but honestly I think post capper conflicts with "screw up Mac's results." Like I'd want Macposting as much as possible if I screwed up his results.

So I'm thinking the post capper is third party.

I know, everyone thinks I'm the third party, bet we'll deal with that bridge later.

i don’t think post capper necessarily conflicts with the result tampering

doesn’t matter though. the post capper isn’t town or they would have claimed. so whether they’re 3p or scum doesn’t matter. we’re just killing jpic and if he’s not the capper we’re killing nook

the hard world is figuring out whether it's correct to exe nook if jpic flips capper tbh

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:04 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm nanook probably can get away with the claim but I'm still not sure why JPIC couldn't have

Nanook claimed "witness at the NK and get rewarded a second vote."

I can see JPIC as "role cop that also post caps" but honestly I think post capper conflicts with "screw up Mac's results." Like I'd want Macposting as much as possible if I screwed up his results.

So I'm thinking the post capper is third party.

I know, everyone thinks I'm the third party, bet we'll deal with that bridge later.

i don’t think post capper necessarily conflicts with the result tampering

doesn’t matter though. the post capper isn’t town or they would have claimed. so whether they’re 3p or scum doesn’t matter. we’re just killing jpic and if he’s not the capper we’re killing nook

the hard world is figuring out whether it's correct to exe nook if jpic flips capper tbh

it's not

Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:04 pm

Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:02 pm

Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:57 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 10:48 pm nanook probably can get away with the claim but I'm still not sure why JPIC couldn't have

Nanook claimed "witness at the NK and get rewarded a second vote."

I can see JPIC as "role cop that also post caps" but honestly I think post capper conflicts with "screw up Mac's results." Like I'd want Macposting as much as possible if I screwed up his results.

So I'm thinking the post capper is third party.

I know, everyone thinks I'm the third party, bet we'll deal with that bridge later.

i don’t think post capper necessarily conflicts with the result tampering

doesn’t matter though. the post capper isn’t town or they would have claimed. so whether they’re 3p or scum doesn’t matter. we’re just killing jpic and if he’s not the capper we’re killing nook

the hard world is figuring out whether it's correct to exe nook if jpic flips capper tbh

i don’t think nook should be allowed to endgame regardless of what jpic flips. if jpic flips capper we don’t have to turbo nook but i don’t really want him endgamimg