The Syndicate

DharmaHelper wrote:

Ricochet wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:All tbis LMS hate. This was one of the best games on the site in my time here.

We live now, more than ever before, in an age of Dead-or-Alive wins. Most probably don't want to openly embrace a format in which they'd only have a 1 in 19 (or however much) chance of winning.

Would you describe this as one of the best for its Mafia format per se or is it just the hype that were getting a close as possible Survivor experience?

It was the most fun. I didn't have to worry about hunting baddies or being hunted. I got to goof around and just have fun. I think LMS in general is a better format because it's less structured and there is more flexibility.

I don't even particularly like Survivor :P

But you were hunted down. If it's LMS, everyone else eventually is the "baddie". L'enfer c'est les autres.

I think the LMS format packs the same amount of psychological structure as a typical Mafia does. Even more individual level, as opposed to a collective one.

And I'm saying all this without any real discontent for the format, like for instance Epig shares. Is it Mafia? I don't really care, it really works as a once in a while variation. I'd be willing to host one, for the fun of the spectacle. Meanwhile, I wouldn't really come near one, given my losing complex. So I wouldn't be able to embrace the fun of it.

What I meant was I don't have to worry about being suspected as a mafia, because everyone else is equally as innocent or guilty as I am as far as the game is concerned. But yeah, you do make good points.

DharmaHelper wrote:What I meant was I don't have to worry about being suspected as a mafia, because everyone else is equally as innocent or guilty as I am as far as the game is concerned. But yeah, you do make good points.

The slight difference in this game is that some players are malaligned with their abilities and are not necessarily looking to play fair. So for someone like, say, the Nurse, their best interest would be to eliminate others that pose a threat to the unity of the tribe in the early goings.

Not that players knew this, but that element exists to give players perspective

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:What I meant was I don't have to worry about being suspected as a mafia, because everyone else is equally as innocent or guilty as I am as far as the game is concerned. But yeah, you do make good points.

The slight difference in this game is that some players are malaligned with their abilities and are not necessarily looking to play fair. So for someone like, say, the Nurse, their best interest would be to eliminate others that pose a threat to the unity of the tribe in the early goings.

Not that players knew this, but that element exists to give players perspective

Yeah some people are "mafia like" because they've got those negative powers.

How well received would a Walking Dead LMS game be... hmmmm...

DharmaHelper wrote:How well received would a Walking Dead LMS game be... hmmmm...

If probably play.

Ima need a break after this thing wraps up tho

The smart play here is to swallow that Opt betrayal and get out Sorsha and Quin. Quin first, then Sorsha. But we'll see how the immunity plays out.

Update:
In other news, he is also thinking about eating the poor poor imaginary chicken.

I'm amazed that Opt won immunity today. I'm also shocked at how little LoRab and Sorsha seemed to remember. Sorsha didn't even submit answers, so

The next challenge is the last challenge and incorporates every skill. This night poll is choosing which advantage they would like in the next challenge. Right now, Looks like one of Sorsha, Elo or LoRab will be going home tonight.

They should turn on LoRab tbh. Blindside her with Quin. Anything else and Elo and Sorsha are toasties b4 Final 3.

Scotty wrote:Update:

Spoiler: show

Quin secretly found another idol. He is playing it on himself because duh. This is the last time idols can be played.

In other news, he is also thinking about eating the poor poor imaginary chicken.

I'm amazed that Opt won immunity today. I'm also shocked at how little LoRab and Sorsha seemed to remember. Sorsha didn't even submit answers, so

The next challenge is the last challenge and incorporates every skill. This night poll is choosing which advantage they would like in the next challenge. Right now,

Spoiler: show

Opt and LoRab both have a strength advantage.

Looks like one of Sorsha, Elo or LoRab will be going home tonight.

Ponderosa lot apparently are unaware Quin has an idol and think he'll still go down tonight? Oh the sizzle.

DharmaHelper wrote:

Spoiler: show

If anyone is silly enough to let Mr. Idol walk into the end, the jury shouldn't give him the win anyway. The only thing he's done all game is use his built in idol radar to keep himself safe.

I don't quite understand this. What else should he have done? We cant see his btsc so no telling what he is doing in there.

juliets wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:

Spoiler: show

If anyone is silly enough to let Mr. Idol walk into the end, the jury shouldn't give him the win anyway. The only thing he's done all game is use his built in idol radar to keep himself safe.

I don't quite understand this. What else should he have done? We cant see his btsc so no telling what he is doing in there.

My point was that without his power he'd be dead in the water.

If I did have any criticisms of the game it would be that. I have to think it's no small coincidence that the guy whose power shows him where the hidden immunity idols are is the guy with the most hidden immunity idols all game.

(Also, shouldn't we be tapped out on immunity idols? IIRC Real Survivor doesn't have like, five idols.)

DharmaHelper wrote:If I did have any criticisms of the game it would be that. I have to think it's no small coincidence that the guy whose power shows him where the hidden immunity idols are is the guy with the most hidden immunity idols all game.

(Also, shouldn't we be tapped out on immunity idols? IIRC Real Survivor doesn't have like, five idols.)

When an idol is used from that tribe it came from, it is reburied. This idol from the Merged tribe keeps getting reburied when it is used.

As for finding idols- people had their chances, and people also had their chances of voting out Quin when they had a chance. But they kept him alive because I feel like the general core wanted him around

Well like I said if they let the Idol Recycling Quin through past tonight that's just silly. If he *wins*, that's even sillier.

DharmaHelper wrote:Well like I said if they let the Idol Recycling Quin through past tonight that's just silly. If he *wins*, that's even sillier.

I wouldn't mind seeing him win though I wouldn't mind seeing any of them left win.

Anything exciting going on in bts Scotty? The thread is dead.

Wonder how the vote will shake out.

juliets wrote:Anything exciting going on in bts Scotty? The thread is dead.

Haven't seen a lot. The participants are basically dead.

DharmaHelper wrote:Wonder how the vote will shake out.

No one knew that Quin had an idol.

So that will be reflected by some of the votes tonight.

Oh man why did they not blindside LoRab? Bigly waste of an opportunity.

Who is Quin even aligned with anymore?

Ricochet wrote:Oh man why did they not blindside LoRab? Bigly waste of an opportunity.

Who is Quin even aligned with anymore?

Opt said she'd take him. Who knows who else...Sorsha maybe?

So Opt voted Eloh with him, huh? Man, she might have a lot to endure through jury time, overall.

Is Opt planning to take LoRab with her in the Final because LoRab would be the goat? Was LoRab that stabby or not favored by the jury members?

I don't think Sorsha will get any jury votes, at this point, except maybe S~V~S supporting her?

This is all assuming Quin is not taken into the Final, which should make it more challenging for both Opt and LoRab.

Funny that opt voted Elo not knowing Quin had the idol. Elo sounds like she will not vote Opt. Epi indicated he would if Elo wasn't in the final. SVS probably won't unless Lorab is her only other choice. Opt should probably take Lorab into the final to give her the best chance. I guess a lot depends on who gets immunity though.

^I agree. From what I'm reading, I think 50% of the jury will go bitter. Opt needs to win immunity and take players with her that have less chance to win over the jury. LoRab is prolly the best choice going forward. If it's Final 3, I'm not sure Sorsha would absorb too many votes, except if the jury is real salty on both Opt and LoRab. Quin could probably give her a hard time, maybe even make her lose.

Then again, the most vocal people to discuss who they like or dissent are S~V~S, Golden and Eloh. Epig appears to be willing to vote Opt now. INH doesn't seem to have an issue with recognizing Opt's game. No idea what the others think.

Ricochet wrote:^I agree. From what I'm reading, I think 50% of the jury will go bitter. Opt needs to win immunity and take players with her that have less chance to win over the jury. LoRab is prolly the best choice going forward. If it's Final 3, I'm not sure Sorsha would absorb too many votes, except if the jury is real salty on both Opt and LoRab. Quin could probably give her a hard time, maybe even make her lose.

Then again, the most vocal people to discuss who they like or dissent are S~V~S, Golden and Eloh. Epig appears to be willing to vote Opt now. INH doesn't seem to have an issue with recognizing Opt's game. No idea what the others think.

One thing that occurs to me is Epig could be persuaded by Elo's feelings about Opt and decide not to vote for her based on those feelings. Hard to tell though.

juliets wrote:

Ricochet wrote:^I agree. From what I'm reading, I think 50% of the jury will go bitter. Opt needs to win immunity and take players with her that have less chance to win over the jury. LoRab is prolly the best choice going forward. If it's Final 3, I'm not sure Sorsha would absorb too many votes, except if the jury is real salty on both Opt and LoRab. Quin could probably give her a hard time, maybe even make her lose.

Then again, the most vocal people to discuss who they like or dissent are S~V~S, Golden and Eloh. Epig appears to be willing to vote Opt now. INH doesn't seem to have an issue with recognizing Opt's game. No idea what the others think.

One thing that occurs to me is Epig could be persuaded by Elo's feelings about Opt and decide not to vote for her based on those feelings. Hard to tell though.

I think the fair thing would be for each to decide who he wants to give his vote to.

I don't see why Epignosis in particular would have issues assessing the worthiest player in a game for him.

Ricochet wrote:

juliets wrote:

Ricochet wrote:^I agree. From what I'm reading, I think 50% of the jury will go bitter. Opt needs to win immunity and take players with her that have less chance to win over the jury. LoRab is prolly the best choice going forward. If it's Final 3, I'm not sure Sorsha would absorb too many votes, except if the jury is real salty on both Opt and LoRab. Quin could probably give her a hard time, maybe even make her lose.

Then again, the most vocal people to discuss who they like or dissent are S~V~S, Golden and Eloh. Epig appears to be willing to vote Opt now. INH doesn't seem to have an issue with recognizing Opt's game. No idea what the others think.

One thing that occurs to me is Epig could be persuaded by Elo's feelings about Opt and decide not to vote for her based on those feelings. Hard to tell though.

I think the fair thing would be for each to decide who he wants to give his vote to.

I don't see why Epignosis in particular would have issues assessing the worthiest player in a game for him.

The worthiest player in the game to him may not be the one who blindsided Eloh.

Opt and LoRab HAVE to see takinng Quin out is the best move.

Are we going to be in the studio audience for the finale?

DharmaHelper wrote:Are we going to be in the studio audience for the finale?

Lol sure. You can be Sia, who unceremoniously walked up on stage for no reason during Kao Rong's season reunion

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:Are we going to be in the studio audience for the finale?

Lol sure. You can be Sia, who unceremoniously walked up on stage for no reason during Kao Rong's season reunion

I'll Sia there.

Scotty, the Ponderosa thread will still be open for the jury to talk about the answers they are getting from the players, right?

juliets wrote:Scotty, the Ponderosa thread will still be open for the jury to talk about the answers they are getting from the players, right?

Yes

I would have liked to have played with MP and Epi and LC. Shame they all ended up on the opposite sides of the island as me.

DharmaHelper wrote:I would have liked to have played with MP and Epi and LC. Shame they all ended up on the opposite sides of the island as me.

Plus Mp was MIA.

I wouldn't mind playing with you either. As a player.

Scotty wrote:

DharmaHelper wrote:I would have liked to have played with MP and Epi and LC. Shame they all ended up on the opposite sides of the island as me.

Plus Mp was MIA.

I wouldn't mind playing with you either. As a player.

Samesies.

Here's my count on the challenge so far:

Lorab 02m40s
Opt
Quin 01m30s
Sorsha 01m40s

zzzzz

Lorab 02m40s
Opt 02m15s 1 Key
Quin 01m30s
Sorsha 02m10s 2 Keys

If Sorsha wins immunity they ought to get rid of Quin. But Quin will probably convince them to get rid of Opt.

Opt is by my estimate at 02m25s 2 Keys?

DharmaHelper wrote:If Sorsha wins immunity they ought to get rid of Quin. But Quin will probably convince them to get rid of Opt.

If Sorsha wins immunity I would think they would get rid of the person they think is strongest with the jury. They might think that is Opt since she's won so many immunities and they probably know Golden and Epi were pledged to her. I can't really remember who knows what.

It looks like the puzzles could decide it, not too much of a lead on anybody coming out of the first half.

DharmaHelper wrote:It looks like the puzzles could decide it, not too much of a lead on anybody coming out of the first half.

These mazes...are taking a while. And frustrating a lot of people, including myself

I could solve it easily.

DharmaHelper wrote:I could solve it easily.

Lol!

Sorsha got some lucky rolls in that challenge- and here she is at final 3!

Opt and Quin are already discussing in chat their desire to vote for LoRab. It's probably going to be a fire-making challenge (which in essence, is a random roll)

Well wellity well.