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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 9:53 pm
by LoRab
DharmaHelper wrote:Well, I'm going to be indisposed for the next few hours before the deadline so a few words of wisdom:

Whether we land on Dr Wilgy or Boom, I trust the tribe to make the right call. Whoever remains out of Boom/Doc will have a lot of work to do to earn a spot back on the totem pole.

Keep in mind even in my absence:
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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 10:32 pm
by Elohcin
I'm off to bed. Night all.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:08 pm
by DrWilgy
I am not silenced nor exiled! I shall not cower in the face of my opposers!

...though how unlucky for me to receive these votes :^(

You call my loyalty a concern when I strafed from my own moral compass for the tribe?

All of you who question my loyalty are cowards running from the fact that we are forced to make choices that may be against what we want, but are for the sake of our tribe.

I have no fear in voting Boomslang. I feel that his opposition to DH is unwarranted, and I'm glad to have DH on my team.

Now... I go back to being unlucky :^)

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:11 pm
by DharmaHelper
DrWilgy wrote:I am not silenced nor exiled! I shall not cower in the face of my opposers!

...though how unlucky for me to receive these votes :^(

You call my loyalty a concern when I strafed from my own moral compass for the tribe?

All of you who question my loyalty are cowards running from the fact that we are forced to make choices that may be against what we want, but are for the sake of our tribe.

I have no fear in voting Boomslang. I feel that his opposition to DH is unwarranted, and I'm glad to have DH on my team.

Now... I go back to being unlucky :^)
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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:17 pm
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:I am not silenced nor exiled! I shall not cower in the face of my opposers!

...though how unlucky for me to receive these votes :^(

You call my loyalty a concern when I strafed from my own moral compass for the tribe?

All of you who question my loyalty are cowards running from the fact that we are forced to make choices that may be against what we want, but are for the sake of our tribe.

I have no fear in voting Boomslang. I feel that his opposition to DH is unwarranted, and I'm glad to have DH on my team.

Now... I go back to being unlucky :^)
why didn't you post until now?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:18 pm
by DrWilgy
Worried about GoC, anniversary, and slept in until noon via cold.

Hbu?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:22 pm
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:Worried about GoC, anniversary, and slept in until noon via cold.

Hbu?
How bout me? I've been posting, thanks.

And you've posted througout the day in GOC....so....a post here to say yo would have been nice. Just so we knew you cared. We were worried.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:23 pm
by DrWilgy
I'm sorry to cause worry, but never fear friend :^)

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:25 pm
by Golden
Wilgy has a very pointy nose.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:25 pm
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:I'm sorry to cause worry, but never fear friend :^)
Glad you're ok. And glad you're back.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:33 pm
by Boomslang
Golden wrote:Wilgy has a very pointy nose.
^This times 10,000. Wilgy, a single post during the day phase, just saying you were busy and would catch up later, would have helped the tribe make a better decision. You didn't do that. I don't buy your excuse. You deliberately took advantage of the Syndicate's cultural tolerance of silence to let momentum build up against me. There's no scum in this game... but that's a hella scummy move.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:35 pm
by Boomslang
speedchuck wrote:I kinda don't like the challenging thing that Boom is doing toward DH, but in the end, nobody wants to be eliminated, so I get it.

It's weird that I can't scumhunt in this game.

Boomslang, do you have any role-related reasons to think you're essential to the team?
Well, I have a bonus towards nimbleness challenges, which I don't think anyone else has yet claimed. Now that we know that, we can assign me to fill challenge roles that no one else could fill quite as well.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:36 pm
by Golden
Boomslang wrote:
Golden wrote:Wilgy has a very pointy nose.
^This times 10,000. Wilgy, a single post during the day phase, just saying you were busy and would catch up later, would have helped the tribe make a better decision. You didn't do that. I don't buy your excuse. You deliberately took advantage of the Syndicate's cultural tolerance of silence to let momentum build up against me. There's no scum in this game... but that's a hella scummy move.
I was just meaning in his creative smilies, for clarity.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:36 pm
by Opt_Outside
DrWilgy wrote:I am not silenced nor exiled! I shall not cower in the face of my opposers!

...though how unlucky for me to receive these votes :^(

You call my loyalty a concern when I strafed from my own moral compass for the tribe?

All of you who question my loyalty are cowards running from the fact that we are forced to make choices that may be against what we want, but are for the sake of our tribe.

I have no fear in voting Boomslang. I feel that his opposition to DH is unwarranted, and I'm glad to have DH on my team.

Now... I go back to being unlucky :^)
Well I'm certainly not a coward, thanks. Just stating the facts of what you said and what it means. I think questioning authority is healthy. Not super helpful to not check in when you were in question and let the tribe think you'd been silenced.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:38 pm
by DharmaHelper
Hey, Boomslang and Wilgy
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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:41 pm
by Boomslang
LoRab wrote: Yes. Insulting the rest of the tribe by (inaccurately) calling us lemmings is definitely your best strategy.
Not a lemming.
LoRab wrote:I'm happy to do whatever for the challenge.
[quote="LoRab]I'm good with a tribal pact. I mean, we have the king and the queen, might as well make it a kingdom, right?{/quote]
LoRab wrote:I'm good with whatever the majority thinks is best on this one.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:42 pm
by LoRab
Wilgy: Tell me why I shouldn't move my vote to you?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:46 pm
by LoRab
Boomslang wrote:
Golden wrote:Wilgy has a very pointy nose.
^This times 10,000. Wilgy, a single post during the day phase, just saying you were busy and would catch up later, would have helped the tribe make a better decision. You didn't do that. I don't buy your excuse. You deliberately took advantage of the Syndicate's cultural tolerance of silence to let momentum build up against me. There's no scum in this game... but that's a hella scummy move.
While I don't think Wilgy's action was good, I don't like this response to it, either. This post does not make me think that I made a mistake with my vote.

I might change my vote. But it won't be because I think that you're good for the tribe.

I feel like Susan Hawk right about now.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:49 pm
by DharmaHelper
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Boom or Doc...Boom or Doc...

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:50 pm
by DrWilgy
Boomslang wrote:
Golden wrote:Wilgy has a very pointy nose.
^This times 10,000. Wilgy, a single post during the day phase, just saying you were busy and would catch up later, would have helped the tribe make a better decision. You didn't do that. I don't buy your excuse. You deliberately took advantage of the Syndicate's cultural tolerance of silence to let momentum build up against me. There's no scum in this game... but that's a hella scummy move.
Took advantage of? I took advantage of nothing.

I will apologize for not posting, but to claim that I take advantage is a falsehood and a slander!
LoRab wrote:Wilgy: Tell me why I shouldn't move my vote to you?
I have no reason not to vote me LoRab. If you think removing me is best for the tribe so be it.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:50 pm
by LoRab
Boom--work with me here. I'm thinking about moving my vote. Convince me it's worthwhile.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:51 pm
by DrWilgy
DharmaHelper wrote:Hey, Boomslang and Wilgy
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I am a friend and a member of Mamana... and alittle unlucky.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:58 pm
by Golden
Did you forget to send in your btsc PM wilgy?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2017 11:59 pm
by DrWilgy
Golden wrote:Did you forget to send in your btsc PM wilgy?
I had to send a PM?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:01 am
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:
Golden wrote:Did you forget to send in your btsc PM wilgy?
I had to send a PM?
Seriously? You knew you had to send in a PM for the rock. You even posted about it. You also knew there was a discussion about who people were requesting for BTSC, as you acknowledged the discussion.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:03 am
by LoRab
@Wilgy:

Why do you think you are unlucky?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:06 am
by Boomslang
LoRab wrote:Boom--work with me here. I'm thinking about moving my vote. Convince me it's worthwhile.
Wilgy is demonstrating, at best, incompetence with the mechanics of the game in not knowing he had to send a PM. That's assuming he's telling the truth. At worst, he's feigning ignorance to delay our progress, both in thread discussion and BTSC, for purposes I can only guess at. In either case, he's clearly not prepared to be an asset to the tribe at the same level as me.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:08 am
by LoRab
Boomslang wrote:
LoRab wrote:Boom--work with me here. I'm thinking about moving my vote. Convince me it's worthwhile.
Wilgy is demonstrating, at best, incompetence with the mechanics of the game in not knowing he had to send a PM. That's assuming he's telling the truth. At worst, he's feigning ignorance to delay our progress, both in thread discussion and BTSC, for purposes I can only guess at. In either case, he's clearly not prepared to be an asset to the tribe at the same level as me.
But why is it worthwhile to keep you around?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:09 am
by DharmaHelper
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Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:11 am
by Boomslang
LoRab wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
LoRab wrote:Boom--work with me here. I'm thinking about moving my vote. Convince me it's worthwhile.
Wilgy is demonstrating, at best, incompetence with the mechanics of the game in not knowing he had to send a PM. That's assuming he's telling the truth. At worst, he's feigning ignorance to delay our progress, both in thread discussion and BTSC, for purposes I can only guess at. In either case, he's clearly not prepared to be an asset to the tribe at the same level as me.
But why is it worthwhile to keep you around?
I can only compare past performances. In Day 1, I contributed to the challenge using 2 energy compared to Wilgy's 1. In Day 2, I correctly advocated for the right strategy and didn't waver, compared to Wilgy wanting to cast a yellow rock due to perceived loyalty to someone on the other team. I've already established myself as objectively more helpful to the team than Wilgy. What else do you want from me?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:14 am
by Boomslang
In any case, I've got to go to bed now. I've advocated for my survival on past performance, planned loyalty, and unique thread perspective. I've been completely honest about the results of my idol search and my role ability. If you vote me off, you're shooting this tribe in the foot—and the people who support me won't forget it.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:17 am
by LoRab
Boomslang wrote:
LoRab wrote:
Boomslang wrote:
LoRab wrote:Boom--work with me here. I'm thinking about moving my vote. Convince me it's worthwhile.
Wilgy is demonstrating, at best, incompetence with the mechanics of the game in not knowing he had to send a PM. That's assuming he's telling the truth. At worst, he's feigning ignorance to delay our progress, both in thread discussion and BTSC, for purposes I can only guess at. In either case, he's clearly not prepared to be an asset to the tribe at the same level as me.
But why is it worthwhile to keep you around?
I can only compare past performances. In Day 1, I contributed to the challenge using 2 energy compared to Wilgy's 1. In Day 2, I correctly advocated for the right strategy and didn't waver, compared to Wilgy wanting to cast a yellow rock due to perceived loyalty to someone on the other team. I've already established myself as objectively more helpful to the team than Wilgy. What else do you want from me?
i want you to talk about yourself without mentioning anyone else. I don't want comparisons between you and other players. I don't want you to make this tribe more divisive. That's actually why I've voted for you, as I stated when I voted. So, without menioning any other player, I want to know what your worth is to this tribe. And how you are of value to the unity of this tribe and our working together towards a shared ideal of winning.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:25 am
by DharmaHelper
We've got some time before the vote is final, so let me clear something up.

Wilgy's made his move. It's done, cards on the table. I wanna be crystal clear on this, none of what I'm about to tell you all is a joke or a gimmick. If folks want to switch their votes to Wilgy, you have clearance to do that. Unfortunately I think the clock's run a little too long and the Boom vote might be inevitable.

But don't mistake that for Wilgy having won anything tonight.Oh no, quite the opposite.
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Everyone on this tribe now has two options. First, you could switch your vote to Wilgy if you haven't already.

Second, you could keep your vote wherever you have it currently. If you do however, know that these are the rules from now on:

Nobody gives Wilgy BTSC
Nobody gives Wilgy Food
Nobody gives Wilgy water
Nobody gives Wilgy shelter
Nobody gives wilgy any idol hints
Nobody helps, aides, or assist Wilgy in any way.

If you do any of the above, you are dead to me and to the tribe. I want to reiterate this is not a joke, or a gimmick, or an empty threat. Your choices are: Vote for Wilgy tonight, or cut him out of everything remotely related to the tribe from hereafter.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:28 am
by DrWilgy
LoRab wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Golden wrote:Did you forget to send in your btsc PM wilgy?
I had to send a PM?
Seriously? You knew you had to send in a PM for the rock. You even posted about it. You also knew there was a discussion about who people were requesting for BTSC, as you acknowledged the discussion.
I knew that there was a btsc going down but I didn't know I had to pm anything for it. I didn't send a pm when I was in btsc with Golden...

@LoRab, the unluckier you consider yourself, then the more lucky good things are! :^)

@DH, that's just unlucky :^(

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:30 am
by DrWilgy
If those are the rules then vote for me.

I'll just end up getting weaker and hindering the team. I'd like to not go against DH. I think he has a unifying presence here.

goodnight Mamana.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:31 am
by Golden
Ok, I'll switch. Wilgy sort of gave permission by saying do what you thinks best for the tribe. I do feel bad though.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:33 am
by DrWilgy
Jeff, If I'm voted off the island tonight, I'd like to go out the same way as my ancestors. I'll commit seppuku and retain my honor.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:34 am
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:
LoRab wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Golden wrote:Did you forget to send in your btsc PM wilgy?
I had to send a PM?
Seriously? You knew you had to send in a PM for the rock. You even posted about it. You also knew there was a discussion about who people were requesting for BTSC, as you acknowledged the discussion.
I knew that there was a btsc going down but I didn't know I had to pm anything for it. I didn't send a pm when I was in btsc with Golden...

@LoRab, the unluckier you consider yourself, then the more lucky good things are! :^)

@DH, that's just unlucky :^(

Bullshit. You read the host post enough to know you had to PM for the rock choice, but not that you had to PM for BTSC? Did you read your role?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:37 am
by DrWilgy
I don't appreciate being called a liar, especially when there's no mafia to lynch :^(

I only knew about the btsc via Speedchucks question "hey Wilgy you want btsc" or some matter. I thought "sure that sounds fun."

Catching the rock pm thing was just a lucky skimming memory.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:37 am
by DharmaHelper
DrWilgy wrote:
LoRab wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
Golden wrote:Did you forget to send in your btsc PM wilgy?
I had to send a PM?
Seriously? You knew you had to send in a PM for the rock. You even posted about it. You also knew there was a discussion about who people were requesting for BTSC, as you acknowledged the discussion.
I knew that there was a btsc going down but I didn't know I had to pm anything for it. I didn't send a pm when I was in btsc with Golden...

@LoRab, the unluckier you consider yourself, then the more lucky good things are! :^)

@DH, that's just unlucky :^(
You must understand, the evidence is most unnerving.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:38 am
by Golden
I'm sorry wilgy. I owe you one.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:39 am
by DrWilgy
:shrug:

Evidence for what? I don't see why anyone would purposely hinder thier team.

@Golden, it's cool, it's like I said in btsc I'm just here for fun and the ride. Winning isn't really a priority.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:39 am
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:I don't appreciate being called a liar, especially when there's no mafia to lynch :^(

I only knew about the btsc via Speedchucks question "hey Wilgy you want btsc" or some matter. I thought "sure that sounds fun."

Catching the rock pm thing was just a lucky skimming memory.
So, then, you're just not paying attention to the game?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:41 am
by DrWilgy
Yes! :^)

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:42 am
by DharmaHelper
DrWilgy wrote:Yes! :^)
I saw you much earlier reading the thread today.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:45 am
by DrWilgy
Hmm... I do gotta say, I look forward to the brawl when only Lions are left.

Only players that really really really wanna win remaining. That'll be interesting.

@DH, yeah I glanced at it throughout the day but was never really able to catch up. Didn't think to post because of that, didn't feel that it would contribute anything. Again, I'm sorry that caused worry, didn't really think too much about it.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:46 am
by DharmaHelper
DrWilgy wrote:
@DH, yeah I glanced at it throughout the day but was never really able to catch up. Didn't think to post because of that, didn't feel that it would contribute anything. Again, I'm sorry that caused worry, didn't really think too much about it.
That was a tactical error on your part.

I hope your cold recovers quickly, and that you otherwise had an excellent day. But in a game sense this move makes the most sense given the information that's available.

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:48 am
by LoRab
DrWilgy wrote:Hmm... I do gotta say, I look forward to the brawl when only Lions are left.

Only players that really really really wanna win remaining. That'll be interesting.

@DH, yeah I glanced at it throughout the day but was never really able to catch up. Didn't think to post because of that, didn't feel that it would contribute anything. Again, I'm sorry that caused worry, didn't really think too much about it.
You know what they say about March

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:50 am
by DrWilgy
DharmaHelper wrote:
DrWilgy wrote:
@DH, yeah I glanced at it throughout the day but was never really able to catch up. Didn't think to post because of that, didn't feel that it would contribute anything. Again, I'm sorry that caused worry, didn't really think too much about it.
That was a tactical error on your part.

I hope your cold recovers quickly, and that you otherwise had an excellent day. But in a game sense this move makes the most sense given the information that's available.
And good luck to you DH. You probably won't need it. You aren't unlucky :^)

Linki- March?

Re: Survivor: Mafia [Night 2]

Posted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 12:51 am
by insertnamehere
Wilgy, I said last night in the chatzy with me, you, and Golden, that I wouldn't be voting for either of you today.

Are you releasing me from this promise?