The Syndicate

Kate wrote:

Matahari wrote:wow, this game has a very cutthroat feel to it. Its gettin ruff up in hera-

first, I have a busy afternoon, is the vote today or tomorrow? i read that the poll was wrong or some such-

also shouldnt we stick to the vote plan Roxy was advocating? and for the record, I dont care if you guys leave me with/without votes, it doesnt matter, really, because I'm not bad. Yet

The vote is today, and yes we should stick to the plan. At least one more person should vote Nev and then we should spread the rest of the votes.

Or someone could vote for someone they think is guilty, and I'll jump on with them to keep from dying. To be clear, the plan was to 'vote like normal, then spread', not 'vote for who Kate says'.

It seems unlikely though, so hopefully she at least won't be able to bully you into ignoring her single-minded pursuit of a civ for no reason.

Kate wrote:Don't you find it at all interesting/suspicious/lucky that two people he claims he can clear were you and llama, the only two other people who were currently in the forum and actively talking?

That's not a coincidence, no. They've been talking a lot the whole game. And I always look at llama first :-P

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:llama, why dont you tell me what you are thinking? what roles do you think he could be hinting?

I think he could be hinting Harry Truman, who can find out what people did last night, Donna, who searches for Bobby but would know if she found BOB, and Maddy, who has a similar power to Donna. I think it might be Donna since he voted to question her on Day 1.

EBWOP: voted for Donna on Night 0, not Day 1.

S~V~S wrote: This ^^

Off to finish catch up

So far I have not seen anything overly suspish about Nevin, and still don't. Next time, though try o make up a case, K? You know all that illogical Mafia terminology you find irksome? Qite a bit of it is people with some sort of knowlege trying to get it into the thread and maintain sportsmanship & fair play with the context of the game.

Its a common noob error,

And I would not call Kate "aggressive", I would call her persistent and relentless.

Gotcha, I'll ask the host for some clarifications. Sorry.

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:Don't you find it at all interesting/suspicious/lucky that two people he claims he can clear were you and llama, the only two other people who were currently in the forum and actively talking?

That is an interesting point that I hadn't thought of.

True. But maybe he checked on us earlier because for one, he is your friend and two, because I posted a lot earlier and we talked about voting plans so he decided to check up on me to see if I was trustworthy.

Idk.....you claim he is right about you Llama and he is also right about me.

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:Don't you find it at all interesting/suspicious/lucky that two people he claims he can clear were you and llama, the only two other people who were currently in the forum and actively talking?

That is an interesting point that I hadn't thought of.

True. But maybe he checked on us earlier because for one, he is your friend and two, because I posted a lot earlier and we talked about voting plans so he decided to check up on me to see if I was trustworthy.

Idk.....you claim he is right about you Llama and he is also right about me.

But if he IS bob he could have said anyone and been right about them, right?

S~V~S wrote:

Kate wrote:

Nevinera wrote:

Kate wrote: Wow info dumping cool... so lets see if you are lying or not.
did you find this out through your night actions?

I don't think I'm allowed to answer this question.

So you are picky about what you will and will not info dump?

This ^^

Off to finish catch up

So far I have not seen anything overly suspish about Nevin, and still don't. Next time, though try o make up a case, K? You know all that illogical Mafia terminology you find irksome? Qite a bit of it is people with some sort of knowlege trying to get it into the thread and maintain sportsmanship & fair play with the context of the game.

Its a common noob error,

And I would not call Kate "aggressive", I would call her persistent and relentless.

You know, the stuff the rest of us have to do.

Kate wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:Don't you find it at all interesting/suspicious/lucky that two people he claims he can clear were you and llama, the only two other people who were currently in the forum and actively talking?

That is an interesting point that I hadn't thought of.

True. But maybe he checked on us earlier because for one, he is your friend and two, because I posted a lot earlier and we talked about voting plans so he decided to check up on me to see if I was trustworthy.

Idk.....you claim he is right about you Llama and he is also right about me.

But if he IS bob he could have said anyone and been right about them, right?

Yep.

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:llama, why dont you tell me what you are thinking? what roles do you think he could be hinting?

I think he could be hinting Harry Truman, who can find out what people did last night, Donna, who searches for Bobby but would know if she found BOB, and Maddy, who has a similar power to Donna. I think it might be Donna since he voted to question her on Day 1.

The way I read Donna is that if she finds Bob, she only knows it if she dies.

S~V~S wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:llama, why dont you tell me what you are thinking? what roles do you think he could be hinting?

I think he could be hinting Harry Truman, who can find out what people did last night, Donna, who searches for Bobby but would know if she found BOB, and Maddy, who has a similar power to Donna. I think it might be Donna since he voted to question her on Day 1.

The way I read Donna is that if she finds Bob, she only knows it if she dies.

Yes, you're right. That means he must be either Harry or Bob (I suspect Harry.) This game is hard because even if we deduce the role of someone, we don't know whether they have been recruited or not.

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:llama, why dont you tell me what you are thinking? what roles do you think he could be hinting?

I think he could be hinting Harry Truman, who can find out what people did last night, Donna, who searches for Bobby but would know if she found BOB, and Maddy, who has a similar power to Donna. I think it might be Donna since he voted to question her on Day 1.

The way I read Donna is that if she finds Bob, she only knows it if she dies.

Yes, you're right. That means he must be either Harry or Bob (I suspect Harry.) This game is hard because even if we deduce the role of someone, we don't know whether they have been recruited or not.

Or chances are just as likely that Harry checked him, right?

Kate wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:llama, why dont you tell me what you are thinking? what roles do you think he could be hinting?

I think he could be hinting Harry Truman, who can find out what people did last night, Donna, who searches for Bobby but would know if she found BOB, and Maddy, who has a similar power to Donna. I think it might be Donna since he voted to question her on Day 1.

The way I read Donna is that if she finds Bob, she only knows it if she dies.

Yes, you're right. That means he must be either Harry or Bob (I suspect Harry.) This game is hard because even if we deduce the role of someone, we don't know whether they have been recruited or not.

Or chances are just as likely that Harry checked him, right?

I don't understand what you mean by this. Can you clarify?

No. I really can't. Gonna have to review my case on him and think on it.

About this info dropping again.

say i have power to search a role I can't say in the thread "Mr Doodle" is "Killkill"? I have to be more subtle. Further i have to make a case?

Snow Dog wrote:About this info dropping again.

say i have power to search a role I can't say in the thread "Mr Doodle" is "Killkill"? I have to be more subtle. Further i have to make a case?

Exactly.

Kate wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:About this info dropping again.

say i have power to search a role I can't say in the thread "Mr Doodle" is "Killkill"? I have to be more subtle. Further i have to make a case?

Exactly.

Thanks for making that clear.

So I will be leaving soon because I have a doctors appointment. I really hope you guys will review my case on Nev. Wouldn't it be great to nab Bob this early, and on an even day to boot?

Kate wrote:So I will be leaving soon because I have a doctors appointment. I really hope you guys will review my case on Nev. Wouldn't it be great to nab Bob this early, and on an even day to boot?

I am just not convinced about him I will look at your case though.

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:So I will be leaving soon because I have a doctors appointment. I really hope you guys will review my case on Nev. Wouldn't it be great to nab Bob this early, and on an even day to boot?

I am just not convinced about him I will look at your case though.

Do you remember when we had BTSC in McGyver and I asked you to vote Vomp? And I was so sure?

Yea. That, and then some.

Kate wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:So I will be leaving soon because I have a doctors appointment. I really hope you guys will review my case on Nev. Wouldn't it be great to nab Bob this early, and on an even day to boot?

I am just not convinced about him I will look at your case though.

Do you remember when we had BTSC in McGyver and I asked you to vote Vomp? And I was so sure?

Yea. That, and then some.

I think we should go for it. Kate seems very sure and the worst that happens is we lynch a civvie, which we were likely to do anyway. I would rather take the chance and hope to get BOB early on, and if Kate turns out to be wrong, we will never listen to her again.

thellama73 wrote:

Kate wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:So I will be leaving soon because I have a doctors appointment. I really hope you guys will review my case on Nev. Wouldn't it be great to nab Bob this early, and on an even day to boot?

I am just not convinced about him I will look at your case though.

Do you remember when we had BTSC in McGyver and I asked you to vote Vomp? And I was so sure?

Yea. That, and then some.

I think we should go for it. Kate seems very sure and the worst that happens is we lynch a civvie, which we were likely to do anyway. I would rather take the chance and hope to get BOB early on, and if Kate turns out to be wrong, we will never listen to her again.

I was going to remind Kate she lied to me in that BTSC. She was very good at it.

I will hold back for now although I agree with what you have said llama. If he has a few votes I may put a vote on someone to spread them.

Gosh we haven't got long. 3/4 of an hour...is that right?

I'm going to have to vote from my phone because I don't know how much longer I'm going to be. I will follow Kate for now because when she is in 'relentless' mode, she is usually right and it's usually based on something I'm not aware of- I can only remember her being a relentless baddie once.

Votes nev

I am worried it won't be so easy to lynch Bob actually. Worth a go though.

Roxy wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright. I have to vote immediately. I'm willing to put a vote on BF right now, regardless of all my doubts about him. However, I do not think he is the person we necessarily need to lynch. Just keeping an eye on him for now. Sorry if I'm wrong about you!

Votes BF

Teeth - do you mind, yah know, to give an actual reason for your vote and also the earliness of it?

TBH - I have been pinged by your last few posts. Here you even say you don't think he is the one we need to lynch - please 'splain it to me.

SVS :o please lets talk about your vote kk?

Was hoping Teeth would see this and answer for it but instead he posts that he is sorry he voted early and was catching up and would post then didn't so I hope he can find some time today to respond. I think I will be putting a vote on him.

Kate - being so sure of yourself along with your case - I feel like you may be onto something. I know as a baddie I will say anything and everything to keep the suspicion off of me and it works most of the time.

And no one said anything about Snow Dog's wanting a vote. It felt very pingalicious .

Roxy wrote:

Roxy wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:Alright. I have to vote immediately. I'm willing to put a vote on BF right now, regardless of all my doubts about him. However, I do not think he is the person we necessarily need to lynch. Just keeping an eye on him for now. Sorry if I'm wrong about you!

Votes BF

Teeth - do you mind, yah know, to give an actual reason for your vote and also the earliness of it?

TBH - I have been pinged by your last few posts. Here you even say you don't think he is the one we need to lynch - please 'splain it to me.

SVS :o please lets talk about your vote kk?

Was hoping Teeth would see this and answer for it but instead he posts that he is sorry he voted early and was catching up and would post then didn't so I hope he can find some time today to respond. I think I will be putting a vote on him.

Kate - being so sure of yourself along with your case - I feel like you may be onto something. I know as a baddie I will say anything and everything to keep the suspicion off of me and it works most of the time.

And no one said anything about Snow Dog's wanting a vote. It felt very pingalicious .

No it isn't.

Wtf? I am sure we do not want 4 people left without a vote!

Why isn't it? If you are a civ you have nothing to hide by being left without a vote - you wanted a vote almost insisting on it - why?

Kk I voted Teeth. It leaves Kate, llama, Snow Dog and me without votes. I feel ok about it, I think

Roxy wrote:Wtf? I am sure we do not want 4 people left without a vote!

Why isn't it? If you are a civ you have nothing to hide by being left without a vote - you wanted a vote almost insisting on it - why?

Oh dear. I didn't almost insist on it. I don't really care either way. It was a throw away comment. If I insisted I could vote myself. If you think I am bad you better had vote me. If you trust me don't. I have done nothing but contribute and help towards the civ cause in this game.

Roxy wrote:Kk I voted Teeth. It leaves Kate, llama, Snow Dog and me without votes. I feel ok about it, I think

Shall we make it three? Shall I vote someone else you think?

Snow Dog wrote:

Roxy wrote:Wtf? I am sure we do not want 4 people left without a vote!

Why isn't it? If you are a civ you have nothing to hide by being left without a vote - you wanted a vote almost insisting on it - why?

Oh dear. I didn't almost insist on it. I don't really care either way. It was a throw away comment. If I insisted I could vote myself. If you think I am bad you better had vote me. If you trust me don't. I have done nothing but contribute and help towards the civ cause in this game.

No need to be a smart ass
Yes you have been trying to help but baddies do that too. You realize you still have not answered my question. Why?

Vote how you please Snow Dog.

Voted llama. Now only three of us unvoted. Snow Dog, Kate and Roxy

In waiting romm and o sedative hehe for an mri. My humble opinion is that at least one of you vote nev because he's gonna put a second on someone. He should have a 2 vote advantade, right bc of manip possibilities?

Kate wrote:In waiting romm and o sedative hehe for an mri. My humble opinion is that at least one of you vote nev because he's gonna put a second on someone. He should have a 2 vote advantade, right bc of manip possibilities?

Oh damn. I didn't check to see if he had voted. Sorry I have been an idiot.

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:In waiting romm and o sedative hehe for an mri. My humble opinion is that at least one of you vote nev because he's gonna put a second on someone. He should have a 2 vote advantade, right bc of manip possibilities?

Oh damn. I didn't check to see if he had voted. Sorry I have been an idiot.

Now I am quite nervous that he will slip in at the last minute, vote for one of us, and then shift a vote onto the same person for the kill :O

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:In waiting romm and o sedative hehe for an mri. My humble opinion is that at least one of you vote nev because he's gonna put a second on someone. He should have a 2 vote advantade, right bc of manip possibilities?

Oh damn. I didn't check to see if he had voted. Sorry I have been an idiot.

Now I am quite nervous that he will slip in at the last minute, vote for one of us, and then shift a vote onto the same person for the kill :O

I truly am sorry. I have dropped the ball on this one.

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:In waiting romm and o sedative hehe for an mri. My humble opinion is that at least one of you vote nev because he's gonna put a second on someone. He should have a 2 vote advantade, right bc of manip possibilities?

Oh damn. I didn't check to see if he had voted. Sorry I have been an idiot.

Now I am quite nervous that he will slip in at the last minute, vote for one of us, and then shift a vote onto the same person for the kill :O

I truly am sorry. I have dropped the ball on this one.

Don't feel bad. It looks like he is going to miss the vote anyway.

Jmaybe ben can help

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:In waiting romm and o sedative hehe for an mri. My humble opinion is that at least one of you vote nev because he's gonna put a second on someone. He should have a 2 vote advantade, right bc of manip possibilities?

Oh damn. I didn't check to see if he had voted. Sorry I have been an idiot.

Now I am quite nervous that he will slip in at the last minute, vote for one of us, and then shift a vote onto the same person for the kill :O

I truly am sorry. I have dropped the ball on this one.

Don't feel bad. It looks like he is going to miss the vote anyway.

I don't think this poll automatically closes. We'll see soon I guess.

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Snow Dog wrote:

Kate wrote:In waiting romm and o sedative hehe for an mri. My humble opinion is that at least one of you vote nev because he's gonna put a second on someone. He should have a 2 vote advantade, right bc of manip possibilities?

Oh damn. I didn't check to see if he had voted. Sorry I have been an idiot.

Now I am quite nervous that he will slip in at the last minute, vote for one of us, and then shift a vote onto the same person for the kill :O

I truly am sorry. I have dropped the ball on this one.

Don't feel bad. It looks like he is going to miss the vote anyway.

Almost did. Doesn't matter though - voted Kate, despite that it won't matter.
Remember, 'never listen to her again'.

Hey Nev voted for Kate!


linki

If Nev is bob he fooled the crap out of me.

So just Roxy and me open?

If he come back not who I think he is then there's been more shenanigans than we think. But face value and occams both say he will.

Kate wrote:If he come back not who I think he is then there's been more shenanigans than we think. But face value and occams both say he will.

"Face Value" is that you had me killed on purpose, and are going to get lynched next for it.
I gather you're building groundwork to try to get out of that.

A drunken man walks in a way that is quite impossible for a sober man to imitate, and vice versa. An evil man has a way, no matter how clever--to the trained eye, his way will show itself. Am I being too secretive? No. One can never answer questions at the wrong moment. Life, like music, has a rhythm. This particular song will end with three sharp notes, like deathly drumbeats.


MADELEINE
I'm going to leave these down here tonight. I'll be all
ready to get an early start.

Behind her in the alcove, ??? comes down the stairs, stops to look at himself/herself in the mirror. She/He smoothes back his/her hair. We move to notice that the face staring back out of the mirror is "Bob."

We follow ???'s hand into his/her pocket. She/He takes out a pair of rubber surgical gloves and starts to put them on as he/she moves toward the living room.

Madeleine has finished fussing over her luggage. She turns and notices Sarah and Leland stretched out on the floor beside the sofa.

MADELEINE
Aunt Sarah? ... Uncle Leland?? ...

As she bends over to look at her, ??? moves in behind her, raising his hands.


Nevinera is dead. He was Maddy. She was not possessed. It is now Night 2, you have 24 hours to send me your night actions.

Definitely not. You lied. No doubt u lied. You cannot know what u claim u know which qas brought out in discussion. I am 100 % happy w my vote

Or maybe not.. ooops.

Nevinera wrote:

Kate wrote:If he come back not who I think he is then there's been more shenanigans than we think. But face value and occams both say he will.

"Face Value" is that you had me killed on purpose, and are going to get lynched next for it.
I gather you're building groundwork to try to get out of that.

duly noted- I've seen that work for Kate before, both as a civ and a baddie, so I'm really in a hurry to know whether I've trusted her rightly or wrongly-

crap why didnt that show up in my linki space?