The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 2:41 pm**

Updated reads:
Epi - Town
Nova - Town
Juliets - Town
Jack - Town

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:34 pm**

[mention]Spacedaisy[/mention] what are your thoughts on the cop and oracle outting themselves to give us a witch?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:02 pm**

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] has replaced Muriel!

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:12 pm**

Hi [mention]Sloonei[/mention]!

Ok everybody our thread is about to explode!

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:14 pm**

Cop shouldn't out at all. That's ridiculous.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:15 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:45 pm Let’s play gth.
Haha right. The last game I was civ and talked in the night about who I suspected I was killed N1.

Who do you suspect?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:18 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:54 am
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:44 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:42 am
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:38 am
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:30 am
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:00 am I hate that I'm the only one here most mornings.
G’morning.
Hi Jack, any thoughts this morning? About anything.
Wait until D3 and then cop and oracle out to give us the game situation?

Scum won’t bus in this game because it gets them no cred so outing a scum through either of these roles should be extra useful. Outted townies give the angels direction.
You're saying you want the cop and the oracle to out themselves D3 or am I misunderstanding?
I do.

If the oracle reveals we’ve already lynched a scum and the cop gives a second scum, knowing that there is one wolf left, who one of their teammates is and that the other teammate is one of these two players gets us really close to a win situation and is worth sacrificing two townies. The alternative is bumbling around blindly with only one wolf left and probably mislynching anyway.

If the situation is worse (can’t afford to lose those roles, more likely to hit a wolf due to a higher wolf to town ratio) then they shouldn’t out. Like if the oracle sees there are 3 wolves or the cop only has now dead townies as results.

Objections?

I object.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:20 pm**

Hi. Expect C-level effort out of me this game. School is too busy and I’m in another game at the moment.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:20 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:15 pm
juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:47 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 1:45 pm Let’s play gth.
Haha right. The last game I was civ and talked in the night about who I suspected I was killed N1.
Who do you suspect?

lol, like I said, in Gossip Girls I suspected 3 people night 1 who were all bad - and I was killed that night.

But if you're comfortable talking about suspicions at night, who do you suspect?

linki

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:22 pm**

Early Day start incoming

Please hold

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:28 pm**

juliets wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 3:34 pm @Spacedaisy what are your thoughts on the cop and oracle outting themselves to give us a witch?

I dunno, I’ve never been a fan of outing, but if they are in danger of being night killed it’s better than the info dying with them. I think they can make the best choice for themselves. I trust their judgement.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:30 pm**

So what’s happening here?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:34 pm**

Day 2 start!

Some people can't help but follow directions.

Juliets has been killed!

It is now Day 2. Day ends in just over 24 hours at the time represented on the poll. With 11 players alive, it takes 6 votes to secure a lynch.

Spoiler: show

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:36 pm**

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:41 pm**

Lynch Sabie

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:50 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:41 pmLynch Sabie

I’m listening, why?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:56 pm**

It's complicated

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:20 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:56 pm It's complicated

Well can you try giving your reasoning why?

I'd be beneficial more so as we don't know either Juliet's or Luna's role.

In regards to Juliet's NK it's safe to assume she was Town I don't believeVig would blindfires N1, she was a strong voice during the daychat I have to read back on her interactions , iirc it was Nova's and Daisy while had the bulk of chatter with her will have to see if there was any hints on who'd want her out early game.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:36 pm**

Pass.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:44 pm**

I just read the setup. Damn y’all, this thing’s cray.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:50 pm**

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am I like the idea of using the clown and the oracle as pseudo flips for at least one player. Plus, it will inform the oracle when the clown dies. Telling the mafia who the cop peak was is a teenie tiny downside that I don’t really care about.

Both the clown and the oracle should target Epi because Epi needs a pie to the face.

we also want to limit role talk because giving the mafia any indication you are what role is suicide for the whole town

that includes speculation on dead player's roles

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am I like the idea of using the clown and the oracle as pseudo flips for at least one player. Plus, it will inform the oracle when the clown dies. Telling the mafia who the cop peak was is a teenie tiny downside that I don’t really care about.

Both the clown and the oracle should target Epi because Epi needs a pie to the face.
we also want to limit role talk because giving the mafia any indication you are what role is suicide for the whole town

that includes speculation on dead player's roles

This sure sounds like what a Mafia would say if Lunalee was Mafia.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm**

so my three town rn are

Epi - being wacky is something i come to expect of town epi
Mac - brick judged him to be worth saving over luna
Nova - vocal, i like what he says. that and he has butt stallion

sorry i didnt do much yesterday, been distracted between work and finally having free time in the evenings

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm**

Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:55 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:50 pm
Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 11:39 am I like the idea of using the clown and the oracle as pseudo flips for at least one player. Plus, it will inform the oracle when the clown dies. Telling the mafia who the cop peak was is a teenie tiny downside that I don’t really care about.

Both the clown and the oracle should target Epi because Epi needs a pie to the face.
we also want to limit role talk because giving the mafia any indication you are what role is suicide for the whole town

that includes speculation on dead player's roles
This sure sounds like what a Mafia would say if Lunalee was Mafia.

me warning jack, to not talk roles because there's a soup kill. yeah mac, good one

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:55 pm**

i mean it's a general notice not directly at jack per say.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?

you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 5:56 pm It's complicated

i wish to see where this goes

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted

How was he saved over Luna? Both didn't get majority on them.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted

Meh. That’s work.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:00 pm**

Rip jules

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:03 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
How was he saved over Luna? Both didn't get majority on them.

no i mean why brick chose him over luna because it's obvious that we didnt have majority

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:06 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
How was he saved over Luna? Both didn't get majority on them.
no i mean why brick chose him over luna because it's obvious that we didnt have majority

Yeah I know that, but you proposed to Sloonei to start with that when he was talking about the lack of flips in regards to team compatibility analysis and whatnot.

Brick choosing to kill Luna over Mac doesn't speak to that.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 pm**

Instead dog continuously giving out Town Reads why not start giving out your scum reads.

I'd say the two that come to mind are Mac for not wanting share his reasoning on wanting Sabie lynched.

Spirityo for falling the lynch I don't believe I even see any indication for a FoS

Jack D0/1 was mostly compiled with Fluff and this DP seems to be Role Fishing

I placed a vote on Mac

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:08 pm**

Not a fan of Muu's talk about night kill analysis just after Juliets dying. Feels pre-emptive. The vig point is moot since there could have been no vig shot on N1 all things considered.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:09 pm**

I don't really see the process of elimination by talking Town reads when we're supposed to be finding scum.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:06 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
How was he saved over Luna? Both didn't get majority on them.
no i mean why brick chose him over luna because it's obvious that we didnt have majority
Yeah I know that, but you proposed to Sloonei to start with that when he was talking about the lack of flips in regards to team compatibility analysis and whatnot.

Brick choosing to kill Luna over Mac doesn't speak to that.

Yeah, I was just talkin' 'bout like knowing whether or not we're on the right track at any given point if we can't see our results. It's always possible to scum hunt, but we're going to have a really difficult time knowing the full context of the game if we don't know what roles have or have not been removed.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
Meh. That’s work.

How's the witch life?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm**

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:09 pm I don't really see the process of elimination by talking Town reads when we're supposed to be finding scum.

Identifying town reads = narrowing the pool of suspects

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:11 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
Meh. That’s work.
How's the witch life?

Which life?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:13 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:11 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
Meh. That’s work.
How's the witch life?
Which life?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:13 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm
muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:09 pm I don't really see the process of elimination by talking Town reads when we're supposed to be finding scum.
Identifying town reads = narrowing the pool of suspects

Never been a fan of such plays as it leaves you open to being reverse pocketed by scum.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:13 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:06 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:03 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:59 pm
sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:57 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:54 pm Like, how do we handle lynches if we can’t see any flips? Have we talked about that? What’s the leading thought there?
you use voting patterns and thread talk to determine it. not a hard concept. You could start by looking into why mac was saved over luna yesterday if you really wanted
How was he saved over Luna? Both didn't get majority on them.
no i mean why brick chose him over luna because it's obvious that we didnt have majority
Yeah I know that, but you proposed to Sloonei to start with that when he was talking about the lack of flips in regards to team compatibility analysis and whatnot.

Brick choosing to kill Luna over Mac doesn't speak to that.

i thought he was asking more where to start playing

the setup has no flips so it's a crap shoot until we get to mylo/lylo or we kill/lynch all the mafia

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:16 pm**

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm
muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:09 pm I don't really see the process of elimination by talking Town reads when we're supposed to be finding scum.
Identifying town reads = narrowing the pool of suspects
Never been a fan of such plays as it leaves you open to being reverse pocketed by scum.

It's the name of the game 'round these parts. All the cool kids are doing it.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:18 pm**

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:13 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:10 pm
muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:09 pm I don't really see the process of elimination by talking Town reads when we're supposed to be finding scum.
Identifying town reads = narrowing the pool of suspects
Never been a fan of such plays as it leaves you open to being reverse pocketed by scum.

Constantly re-assessing helps with that.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:18 pm**

Sloonei, are you caught up?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:20 pm**

sprityo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 6:55 pm i mean it's a general notice not directly at jack per say.

I appreciate you worrying about me.

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:21 pm**

novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:18 pm Sloonei, are you caught up?

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:21 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:21 pm
novaselinenever wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:18 pm Sloonei, are you caught up?

lol

Posted: **Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:25 pm**

muugen wrote: ↑Fri Apr 12, 2019 7:07 pm Instead dog continuously giving out Town Reads why not start giving out your scum reads.

I'd say the two that come to mind are Mac for not wanting share his reasoning on wanting Sabie lynched.

Spirityo for falling the lynch I don't believe I even see any indication for a FoS

Jack D0/1 was mostly compiled with Fluff and this DP seems to be Role Fishing

I placed a vote on Mac

Tell me what specifically about my plan is bad. Cause you characterizing it as role fishing implies you think it’s a fake plan designed to out roles.

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