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Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:50 am
by iaafr
imagine actually apologizing for not capitulating to rabbits endless impatience as if youre obligated to answer quickly
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:51 am
by Pawn Lelouch
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:50 am
imagine actually apologizing for not capitulating to rabbits endless impatience as if youre obligated to answer quickly
I don't like being boring and making people wait. Simple as that.

Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:54 am
by Lady LambdaDelta
Pawn the posts were fucking giant and in sequence of each other, it was a fucking slog to read in which I felt my eyes glazing over multiple times
any assertion that this is not the truth, and that it's not intentionally done given the way the quotes were setup feels a bit disingenuous, at best.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:55 am
by Lady LambdaDelta
also I think my insight about the rabbit looking for a specific answer and turning on me when he got one he didn't like feels like a red flag you're ignoring pawn
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
by Lady LambdaDelta
anyway this game is garbage so I don't know why I'm trying lol
it's honestly the opposite of fun sitting here trying to play this so fuck it
I'm out
-Lexi
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
by MacDougall
I didn't even read anything Epi said except for the summary parts. You people don't actually read posts do you?
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:57 am
by MacDougall
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
anyway this game is garbage so I don't know why I'm trying lol
it's honestly the opposite of fun sitting here trying to play this so fuck it
I'm out
-Lexi
Pretty mean to the designers tbh. You were warned ahead of time it wasn't a typical setup. If you hate it so much swap out.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:02 am
by iaafr
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:54 am
Pawn the posts were fucking giant and in sequence of each other, it was a fucking slog to read in which I felt my eyes glazing over multiple times
any assertion that this is not the truth, and that it's not intentionally done given the way the quotes were setup feels a bit disingenuous, at best.
there are so many town players who create annoying walls who dont seem self aware of how annoying their walls are to read
epi's quotewalls were like
in the 20th percentile of unreadableness at worst
if it was intentional he couldve made them a lot worse while still having plausible deniability
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:04 am
by MacDougall
Epi is a writer and English teacher. He cares about words a lot.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:05 am
by iaafr
not even hardclearing epi rn
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:05 am
by Lady LambdaDelta
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:57 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
anyway this game is garbage so I don't know why I'm trying lol
it's honestly the opposite of fun sitting here trying to play this so fuck it
I'm out
-Lexi
Pretty mean to the designers tbh. You were warned ahead of time it wasn't a typical setup. If you hate it so much swap out.
It was pretty mean to us to say 'hey it's atypical" so I read the rules oh hey you can't claim oh hey weird mechanics, okay sure
sudden hidden mechanics and post restrictions are hard bastard
and not fun
so yeah I'm being mean but honestly it's frustrating
-Lexi
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:07 am
by Pawn Lelouch
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:54 am
Pawn the posts were fucking giant and in sequence of each other, it was a fucking slog to read in which I felt my eyes glazing over multiple times
any assertion that this is not the truth, and that it's not intentionally done given the way the quotes were setup feels a bit disingenuous, at best.
I genuinely don't think they were that long even with the quite and all put together. And I fully admit I can biased in regards to them all together, but not as singular posts.
As singular posts I just can't see it. And remember, I've been phone posting rather than laptop posting so if there was ever a game where I would call something long and unreadable that I normally wouldn't it would be this one.
And yes, to answer your other post I noticed exactly how quickly he was willing to put me down on his lynch page when I was slow and how fast he came around to you there.
Trust me, I am keeping it noted down but you both have not really actually done much this game, so dropping from null at best to possible lynch makes sense and I've also been in the spec trenches with iaafr.
I've seen how fast he can flip his reads naturally, both in spec and when I've seen him in other games, so him moving anyone around fast is less AI than it would be with most other players. Just another data point to keep track of and officially marking down now for the next potential shift.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:08 am
by iaafr
i liked my approach of vent for like 2 posts then get called out by dom who mistakenly thought i was complaining about content production, and then get in a shitfight, lose all his trust, piss him off a bit, make him think im a hypocrite somehow, etc
i think that was an appropriate reaction to the overall situation, all things considered
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:08 am
by Pawn Lelouch
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:02 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:54 am
Pawn the posts were fucking giant and in sequence of each other, it was a fucking slog to read in which I felt my eyes glazing over multiple times
any assertion that this is not the truth, and that it's not intentionally done given the way the quotes were setup feels a bit disingenuous, at best.
there are so many town players who create annoying walls who dont seem self aware of how annoying their walls are to read
epi's quotewalls were like
in the 20th percentile of unreadableness at worst
if it was intentional he couldve made them a lot worse while still having plausible deniability
Tbh I do it a fair bit even as town. Having people skim and give free townreads is something I won't pass up if I think I need it.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:10 am
by Pawn Lelouch
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
I didn't even read anything Epi said except for the summary parts. You people don't actually read posts do you?
I read every post to the full degree. I even did it for Anni and hated myself for it.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:14 am
by MacDougall
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:10 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
I didn't even read anything Epi said except for the summary parts. You people don't actually read posts do you?
I read every post to the full degree. I even did it for Anni and hated myself for it.
Where's the body Pawn?
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:15 am
by iaafr
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:56 am
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:53 am
i disagree with unreadably long and performative but alright thats an opinion thx
See this is why we shouldn't even fucking bother with you people
there's exactly 0 chance you went back to read that shit and gave it a good view to see if he said anything remotely beyond vapid content
you just asked to be able to gutcheck on your own biases
and the do this to me
fuck this why the fuck do I bother
-Nyx
also isnt this response kind of TMIing me town or at least reprsenting that shes currently frustrated by thinking im stubborn town who wont listen anyway
hows lld just try to spin it like
also I think my insight about the rabbit looking for a specific answer and turning on me when he got one he didn't like feels like a red flag you're ignoring pawn
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 am
by MacDougall
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:57 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
anyway this game is garbage so I don't know why I'm trying lol
it's honestly the opposite of fun sitting here trying to play this so fuck it
I'm out
-Lexi
Pretty mean to the designers tbh. You were warned ahead of time it wasn't a typical setup. If you hate it so much swap out.
It was pretty mean to us to say 'hey it's atypical" so I read the rules oh hey you can't claim oh hey weird mechanics, okay sure
sudden hidden mechanics and post restrictions are hard bastard
and not fun
so yeah I'm being mean but honestly it's frustrating
-Lexi
Aight maybe you should just give it a chance you might like it. Think of it as an immersive experience in the vein of werewolf not werewolf.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 am
by MacDougall
Who's gots beers?
This guy.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:17 am
by Pawn Lelouch
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:14 am
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:10 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
I didn't even read anything Epi said except for the summary parts. You people don't actually read posts do you?
I read every post to the full degree. I even did it for Anni and hated myself for it.
Where's the body Pawn?
What the bayou takes, it don't ever give back. All I'll say on the matter.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:18 am
by Pawn Lelouch
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 am
Who's gots beers?
This guy.
Margarita, daiquiris, and rum over beer any day of the week.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:19 am
by MacDougall
I made a game once on here where the scum teams were called Al-Pieda and ISIS Cream and at one point during the game we had like 500 "guests" reading the thread lol.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:19 am
by iaafr
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:57 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
anyway this game is garbage so I don't know why I'm trying lol
it's honestly the opposite of fun sitting here trying to play this so fuck it
I'm out
-Lexi
Pretty mean to the designers tbh. You were warned ahead of time it wasn't a typical setup. If you hate it so much swap out.
It was pretty mean to us to say 'hey it's atypical" so I read the rules oh hey you can't claim oh hey weird mechanics, okay sure
sudden hidden mechanics and post restrictions are hard bastard
and not fun
so yeah I'm being mean but honestly it's frustrating
-Lexi
Aight maybe you should just give it a chance you might like it. Think of it as an immersive experience in the vein of werewolf not werewolf.
maan.
i dont know if id put it below lld to try all this shit as scum so i have to entertain it
are you not entertaining her being scum and somewhat faking this frustration as a tactic?
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:20 am
by Pawn Lelouch
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:19 am
I made a game once on here where the scum teams were called Al-Pieda and ISIS Cream and at one point during the game we had like 500 "guests" reading the thread lol.
I assume you said hi to the NSA a few times in thread?
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:20 am
by MacDougall
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:18 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 am
Who's gots beers?
This guy.
Margarita, daiquiris, and rum over beer any day of the week.
They all have their place. I can't grab a daiquiri from the fridge, pop the cap and collapse on the couch swiggimg it channel surfing.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:21 am
by MacDougall
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:19 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:16 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:05 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:57 am
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:56 am
anyway this game is garbage so I don't know why I'm trying lol
it's honestly the opposite of fun sitting here trying to play this so fuck it
I'm out
-Lexi
Pretty mean to the designers tbh. You were warned ahead of time it wasn't a typical setup. If you hate it so much swap out.
It was pretty mean to us to say 'hey it's atypical" so I read the rules oh hey you can't claim oh hey weird mechanics, okay sure
sudden hidden mechanics and post restrictions are hard bastard
and not fun
so yeah I'm being mean but honestly it's frustrating
-Lexi
Aight maybe you should just give it a chance you might like it. Think of it as an immersive experience in the vein of werewolf not werewolf.
maan.
i dont know if id put it below lld to try all this shit as scum so i have to entertain it
are you not entertaining her being scum and somewhat faking this frustration as a tactic?
Maybe. I don't see the point in speculating. She can be frustrated AND scum so me addressing it doesn't mean I'm making assumptions about her alignment.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:22 am
by MacDougall
Pawn Lelouch wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:20 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:19 am
I made a game once on here where the scum teams were called Al-Pieda and ISIS Cream and at one point during the game we had like 500 "guests" reading the thread lol.
I assume you said hi to the NSA a few times in thread?
Haha yes. Begged not to be arrested etc.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:23 am
by iaafr
yeah you have a point i respect it
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:24 am
by MacDougall
Who likes cheesecake?
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:25 am
by iaafr
i love cheesecake.
might have a slice rn tbh
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:26 am
by Pawn Lelouch
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:24 am
Who likes cheesecake?
Everyone does or at least should.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:26 am
by Master Radishes
Epignosis wrote: ↑Wed Oct 30, 2019 6:48 pm
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Oct 29, 2019 5:51 pm
Welp,
[VOTE:
Dragomir] aubergine then. Not sold on a 112 lynch.
Beyond the reason supplied here, I have no idea why Radishes voted Dragomir.
There were 30 players in the game and my time is limited. I paid little attention to drago but I liked who was on his wagon more than who was on 112's. I had wanted a TSP lynch but my fellow TSP voters switched off to Drago.
Also, meta. 112's town game is full of inconsistencies and unexamined read switches. I think their round was poor, and am very willing to entertain them as scum, but I read it as a lack of effort as opposed to a nefarious agenda. Either way, I'd love to see more from them today.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:27 am
by Master Radishes
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:24 am
Who likes cheesecake?
Not me. Don't like cheese full stop.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:27 am
by Master Radishes
Ugh. Phone posting is the worst. I'm going to stop.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:29 am
by Pawn Lelouch
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:27 am
Ugh. Phone posting is the worst. I'm going to stop.
Join me until my laptop charger arrives in like 12 hours. I can't be the only one going through this torture.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:32 am
by MacDougall
I am phone posting. It's great because you have internal justification for sub par play.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:34 am
by iaafr
ah that kind of explains a bit
yeah i mean my shittier posting today and spat with dom was in the middle of busy phoneposting and it felt like shit
so my minor frustration with people not addressing my most recent lld shit and playing... i mean... its more understandable now if youre all on phones
whatever
like i said tomorrow is busy and stressful for me wish me luck gn all
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:36 am
by Pawn Lelouch
Night iaafr
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:52 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
I think I’ve posted from a laptop 3 times, get on my level
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 4:59 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Apparently fights happened, I haven’t read them and probably won’t if we’re being honest, but I will say anyways that everyone should cool their jets and take a deep breath, extended yell fests are not super fun usually. This format and posting restrictions are frustrating but if they’re so inhibiting just follow my lead and only reply to pings and do a semi-random pop in or two. It’s very freeing and sometimes helps you see the game a bit better from the 10,000 foot perspective.
[mention]Evenstar[/mention] if I said you’re town, would you agree?
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:00 am
by iaafr
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:32 am
that reminds me, I should start logging on as invis, so i, deepest scum player who intends to endgame, cannot be angleshot
got around to doing this
one thing i appreciate about mu is that they at some point changed the forum software to have all new accounts as always invisible by default
cuz i mean its not like im trying to look but its there and i dont like that its there and giving me thoughts but i cant stop my thoughts sometimes
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:13 am
by Quin
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:39 am
I wanna know what @Quin thinks about all this?
he's pretty tired and regretful of not keeping up but unashamedly thinks he'll do better once more of you are dead
but not you mac, you should live
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:15 am
by Quin
iaafr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 12:19 am
quin pushed tsp in a not aligned way imo so I have him clear assuming tsp scum
this post is really interesting
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:24 am
by MacDougall
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:39 am
I wanna know what @Quin thinks about all this?
he's pretty tired and regretful of not keeping up but unashamedly thinks he'll do better once more of you are dead
but not you mac, you should live
Ok you can be in the clerb
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:26 am
by Master Radishes
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:24 am
Quin wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:13 am
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 1:39 am
I wanna know what @Quin thinks about all this?
he's pretty tired and regretful of not keeping up but unashamedly thinks he'll do better once more of you are dead
but not you mac, you should live
Ok you can be in the clerb
What's a clerb and can I be in it.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:28 am
by Master Radishes
Nanook, I really want to scum read evenstar but no one else seems to agree. Why not?
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 6:04 am
by Michelle
Lady LambdaDelta wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 3:55 am
also I think my insight about the rabbit looking for a specific answer and turning on me when he got one he didn't like feels like a red flag you're ignoring pawn
i need few commas in your text, do i undeestand well you are shading iaafr here?
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 7:06 am
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Master Radishes wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 5:28 am
Nanook, I really want to scum read evenstar but no one else seems to agree. Why not?
Dunno about anyone else but I don’t want to because of their interaction with drago D1. I think that shitty joke probably gets dropped differently if they’re scum together, or they turn it into a big production.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:07 am
by Michelle
I don't know how much AI are Epi's analysis for who knows him but from my pov i can only see a villager struggling with so much work.
I am glad we have his quotes to work with from day one and i have few notes i need to share with some pics i made on page 62 who became inactive and is blocked on my browser.
Starting with Dragomir
- on post 405 he was complaining about too much content posted,
- liked Juliet's answer in post 418 and i remeber she didn't have a strong stance about the game at start but idk what's about exactly,
- post 448 points out that Nova is a dangerous guy
- 452 asked iaafr if hes 3rd part and this i consider to be a shade because for me iaafr was villagery very early in the game.
- p779 says one player is good guy but i didn't write correct to know who is the guy. I post this to check it if we'll have again day one to reread (if we'll have)
- p 810 to Eve: youre maf and iaafr is T - idk how to take this, it may be a wrong take to trust it
- p826 he gave up to SR 112 based on role playing
and expalins in p849 why 112 is not scum for roleplaying and this is curious because scum would need to shade a townie not to clear him so i think 112 is suspicious going to p852 where he questioned Eve about why she SR 112
- few interactions he had with TSP, in p867 he says he hates how TSP is phrasing and i disliked his tone towards TSP in post 867 like they are probably not same AI
After flip i reread Drago's posts but the Iso vanished at refresh page, all i remember was a mess of posts without certain meaning so my idea is that we cannot trust his Iso to scumread someone because if he wanted to live and go deep he would post better and so i think he wanted to die and set few deep (at least 2) deep wolves based on his flip.
Re: Inception [Subconscious Phase 2]
Posted: Thu Oct 31, 2019 8:37 am
by Jackofhearts2005
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Oct 31, 2019 2:28 am
@Jackofhearts2005
Your gif is broken.