Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [GAME OVER]

[Epignosis]

On page four. Apparently I have to go play Clue because my family thinks they can beat me.

Miss White with the rope in the garage.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

What makes me different is that sig thinks a sample size of two is at all meaningful

Not sure what you mean by this

Sig called me mafia last game and in all my circuits so now he thinks he can read me

And sig was right in both.

Plus you're way to defensive given all that I've said is your a scum lean and I'll lay out some thoughts tomorrow.

I’m not defensive, I just find you annoying. You have no idea what my town game looks like, but you think you have a good read anyways and you’re determined to scumread me no matter what. It’s irritating.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

I wasn’t defending radish

I was calling your “slip” stupid as fuck

Again so aggressive, take a chill pill. Or don't your only making yourself look worse.

See, this. I can’t make myself look bad, because by definition everything I do is town.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Nanook, what's your read on sig?

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

[nutella]

Completely irrelevant, but I want to share this glorious discovery. I have long sought the Holy Grail of sandwich theory: finding a sensible means of including a sub as a sandwich but not a hot dog. This would align with intuitions, but logical structure stands in the way. Consider a historical and evolutionary perspective.

I think that we can somewhat safely assume that the sub came before the hot dog, given that a sub can be comprised of anything within a bread loaf (loaves date back millennia). A hot dog specifically features that meat-thing of processed mystery only made possible by modern industrial ingenuity. So it could be that the hot dog is the offspring of the sub.

However, given the American cultural parallel, it seems equally plausible at least that the hot dog is the offspring of the burger -- another meat-thing-emphasized bread food. As such, perhaps the burger and the sub are a sort of *parents* to the hot dog. If so, and if we accept the burger and the sub as sandwiches then surely the hot dog must be too?

Not so fast. Consider the basics of heredity in biology. The offspring inherits half the genes of each parent, and only the *dominant* genes are expressed. Could it be that the sub and the burger both feature a dominant *sandwich* gene and secondary alternative gene(s)? If so, imagine what happens when each of them passes the ALTERNATIVE gene down to the hot dog.

There is no sandwich gene. It is something else entirely. THIS IS IT.

this is blatant bratwurst erasure. sausage has been around a while friendo

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Nanook, what's your read on sig?

He’s an idiot

Could be town could be scum that thinks I’m the other team, either way I think his read is genuine

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

Nanook, what's your read on sig?

He’s an idiot

Could be town could be scum that thinks I’m the other team, either way I think his read is genuine

Let's not call each other idiots now, k.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

this is blatant bratwurst erasure. sausage has been around a while friendo

Yeah I realized after the fact that I forgot about the German origins, but I think the reasoning holds.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Could be town could be scum that thinks I’m the other team, either way I think his read is genuine

Gun to your head, which one

[nutella]

Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Could be town could be scum that thinks I’m the other team, either way I think his read is genuine

Gun to your head, which one

If I had a read on which one I would’ve said it

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Could be town could be scum that thinks I’m the other team, either way I think his read is genuine

Gun to your head, which one

If I had a read on which one I would’ve said it

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I killed scum D1 what are you on about

[Dyslexicon]

I glanced at the thread and I have half an idea about Tony being town. I like first impressions, cause they are usually kind of good.

[Dyslexicon]

Jimmaaaaaay, are you town? Can you at least pretend if you aren't? I love you.

[sig]

Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I'll talk more about this later, but nanook is playing within his scum meta in everything from tone to posting style.

I literally just played two games with him where he was mafia, one I was indy so didn't care much to hunt and one where I was civ and did. Both times I knew he was mafia, before any information or anything game one i was brushed off and mafia won.

Game 2 it was a mix Epi jumped on and we won the game.

Now having said that during Circut, I believe, before I seriously called him out I skimmed over inception and just did again his playstyle and tone doesn't match inception but matches the other two.

He's being overly aggressive and defensive and honestly way to aggressive for this phase in the game, for the level of commitment I've put into going after him, and for the amount of votes/attention he's getting from everybody.

Only reason he's doing this? Since I again successfully called his alignment and he's pissed off.

If not then he's just a hella toxic player and honestly should be lynched anyway. Though given his last few games I doubt that's the case.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Jimmaaaaaay, are you town? Can you at least pretend if you aren't? I love you.

I'm a town boy, Dizzy. I was just staring at your posts here and back in Currents when we were both bad to the bone. I found nothing worth saying. You posted lots of gifs. Hello!

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Really though DizzBizz, do you suspect Sloonei?

[sig]

Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

[mention]Sloonei[/mention] [mention]Jackofhearts2005[/mention] you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

[sig]

Also won't be around much tomorrow my Wednesdays are generally horribly cramped, so if anyone has pressing matters they want me to address throw me an @ and I'll get to them faster.

[Dyslexicon]

I'm a town boy, Dizzy. I was just staring at your posts here and back in Currents when we were both bad to the bone. I found nothing worth saying. You posted lots of gifs. Hello!

A fond memory for sure. =p I think I made a whole read list with cat gifs? I'm seeeelly.
I haven't really gotten into this game. Just glanced over here and there. I'll probably have to spend time playing catch up in chunks as I wasn't really prepared for this right now. But I promise you my reads are sometimes good. Ask Tony. =p
I'm going to assume you are town because that makes me feel good.

[Sloonei]

Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

I hosted All My Circuits

[Dyslexicon]

Really though DizzBizz, do you suspect Sloonei?

Yes, but I can't stay up to place my vote there when day starts. Rip.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

I feel okay about Sloonei now.

[JaggedJimmyJay]

Really though DizzBizz, do you suspect Sloonei?

Yes, but I can't stay up to place my vote there when day starts. Rip.

Wood Love 2 kNow More

[Dyslexicon]

I hosted All My Circuits

[Dyslexicon]

Wood Love 2 kNow More

You will. He's the devil child. The voice in my head said so.

[sig]

Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

I hosted All My Circuits

I knew that.

what I meant to say was from a hosts perspective.

[nutella]

Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I'll talk more about this later, but nanook is playing within his scum meta in everything from tone to posting style.

I literally just played two games with him where he was mafia, one I was indy so didn't care much to hunt and one where I was civ and did. Both times I knew he was mafia, before any information or anything game one i was brushed off and mafia won.

Game 2 it was a mix Epi jumped on and we won the game.

Now having said that during Circut, I believe, before I seriously called him out I skimmed over inception and just did again his playstyle and tone doesn't match inception but matches the other two.

He's being overly aggressive and defensive and honestly way to aggressive for this phase in the game, for the level of commitment I've put into going after him, and for the amount of votes/attention he's getting from everybody.

Only reason he's doing this? Since I again successfully called his alignment and he's pissed off.

If not then he's just a hella toxic player and honestly should be lynched anyway. Though given his last few games I doubt that's the case.

I'm pretty inclined to trust you on this. I didn't play the games where you called him out, and there's always the chance of a false positive, but your confidence here combined with the difference I see between his play here and his play in Inception is enough for me to scrutinize him further.

[sig]

Actually Wait a second I'm confusing my games I mean the Wire not Circuits. So I did have right players, having said that I also played with him in Circuits where he was mafia as well making it 3 games I've played where I successfully knew he was mafia.

[sig]

Just to clarify from what I remember on the fly.

Wire, I was 3P: called him out early never pursued. Mainly based around the fact Nanook claimed he was mafia/in scum chat as a joke multiple times, paired with Meta.
Circuits: Again I was 3P: My main thing in this game was that he misinterpreted his own meta, which didn't align with how he acted in Wire plus a tone read then his reaction to my pokes. I was lynched before I really pursued that far. (I blame mac)
Chess: Civilian Watcher: Made another joke about being mafia like he did in Wire. This pinged me then got tracking results when he targeted and killed LC. That obviously confirmed it, but the few posts he had before were already pingy. He has responded with the same type of sarcasm as he did in Wire and here when called out.


So we've been in 3 games all 3 he was mafia and all 3 I successfully was able to label him as mafia. His tone, behavior when called out, and jokes about being mafia all match last 3 and isn't the same as his Civ behavior from my read through of Inception.

[nutella]

Actually Wait a second I'm confusing my games I mean the Wire not Circuits. So I did have right players, having said that I also played with him in Circuits where he was mafia as well making it 3 games I've played where I successfully knew he was mafia.

oh, I did play the wire. don't really remember much tho lol

[sig]

Actually Wait a second I'm confusing my games I mean the Wire not Circuits. So I did have right players, having said that I also played with him in Circuits where he was mafia as well making it 3 games I've played where I successfully knew he was mafia.

oh, I did play the wire. don't really remember much tho lol

I only remember since my epic gamble didn't work out at all.

But I had alot of fun sowing chaos.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I'll talk more about this later, but nanook is playing within his scum meta in everything from tone to posting style.

I literally just played two games with him where he was mafia, one I was indy so didn't care much to hunt and one where I was civ and did. Both times I knew he was mafia, before any information or anything game one i was brushed off and mafia won.

Game 2 it was a mix Epi jumped on and we won the game.

Now having said that during Circut, I believe, before I seriously called him out I skimmed over inception and just did again his playstyle and tone doesn't match inception but matches the other two.

He's being overly aggressive and defensive and honestly way to aggressive for this phase in the game, for the level of commitment I've put into going after him, and for the amount of votes/attention he's getting from everybody.

Only reason he's doing this? Since I again successfully called his alignment and he's pissed off.

If not then he's just a hella toxic player and honestly should be lynched anyway. Though given his last few games I doubt that's the case.

Right, me being annoyed at you SRing me for literally no other reason than “I don’t know what Nanook’s town game looks like” makes me hella toxic. Ok.

[Turnip Head]

Actually, all your words are washing over me. I'm taking nothing in.

One time on my home forum I spent the entire first round just gif-posting a handful of times and not engaging in the game at all because I was busy. I got myself mislynched D1. But before I went, I made a final serious post in which I named the entire scum team.

Sometimes looking at something from the corner of your eye allows you to see more. /deep thoughts

Scum tbqh

I have a read on this post, TH. I would like to expand. But can you first tell me whether or not you were serious? Unclear

quite

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Chiefly and I'll pull up quotes from this and other games later either tomorrow or Thursday is that as mafia he gets hella defensive to early and super sarcastic/trolling. Mainly over minor pokes. Like he did here.

He's also in both games, where he was scum, made comments about being mafia/mafia chat. Now this alone isn't the closing. People do that all the time but his reaction to whenever I've brought it up has been exactly the same every game. Read through them if you don't believe me.

@Sloonei @Jackofhearts2005 you two were his teammates in Circuits care to weight in?

Maybe, and this is just a thought, I react that way as mafia because that’s how I react as town.

But you wouldn’t know that, cause again, you have zero idea what my town game looks like.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

All you’re saying is that you scumread me every game, because again (and I don’t know how this is still being glossed over), YOUVE NEVER SEEN ME AS TOWN. You don’t know how good your read on me actually is because you’ve never had to try and read me as T/T, literally all you know is that you always scumread me.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

This happens to me every new to newish place I play, and tbf to you some of that frustration is probably leaking through, but goddamn is it annoying and old.

[Epignosis]

Tex/Michelle are my early town read
Jay and nanook early meh reada

1) tedxtr is town

Agreed.

[Epignosis]

sig is a civilian.

[Epignosis]

Well that's a nice mark, Sloonei.

Yeah I have to say I mindmeld there too. Sig claiming "people" are forming a town core is hella sketch. Like he knows who's town (k technically it's multiball but still) and is scurred of any perceived town coalescing.

There are two mafia teams. This is silly.

[Epignosis]

Well that's a nice mark, Sloonei.

Yeah I have to say I mindmeld there too. Sig claiming "people" are forming a town core is hella sketch. Like he knows who's town (k technically it's multiball but still) and is scurred of any perceived town coalescing.

There are two mafia teams. This is silly.

"Multiball"

I just remembered what that means.

Still.

[Epignosis]

Regarding strong reads, I think civs need to be hyper aggressive this game becasue of this:

Hosts with the most said:


Ghosts

When a player dies, their ghost remains in the thread for three more phases. A ghost may post on-topic thrice-twice-once, in successive phases, in dead-red text. A ghost can claim its Win Condition.

Have you ever had that moment in a game, right after you died, when suddenly, it was all clear. Yeah, we all have. The baddies are gonna have to try harder to be blendy this game becasue of this, not be over aggressive, becasue it's gonna be harder for them to blow off a mislynch with the victim still in the thread. It's gonna be harder for them to just NK people who get up in their grilles if the victim is still in the thread.

I am always a pretty aggressive civ, but I tend to try to hold reads close to the vest becasue I don't want to paint targets on civs or give a baddie the heads up that they are under suspicion; sometimes I like to watch and draw them out, to see if they slip. But I think this is the game for full reads.

I want to see how the Zero poll plays out. Right now I like Nanook, I like sig, I like Nutella. I don't dislike Jules, TH, Jay, or Ted. I am not feeling Chuck so much or Sloonei. Sloonei getting all aggressive with sig rubs me the wrong way, becasue this is something I seem to recall seeing Sloonei doing fairly often, getting in sigs face. It's an easy stance for Sloonei to fall into. My thoughts on Chuck are wrapped up in his poll vote

Most everyone else is gray for me, or someone I am actively waffling about like Jack or G Man. I know G Man is hiding from G Woman, which I know was always a thing with him, but what little he wrote, meh. So him and Jack aren't really grey, but I could go either way. Some of the gray people, like Epi, Mac, and Tranq, are people I like to sort early, but it's Zero, so

I don't think I played with Michelle before; I did play with Dyslexicon, but not enough to have a basis of comparison.

I also see that Dom, Colin, Dragomir and Sabie have not checked in yet.

I am very much grayer than I was five years ago.

Also, S~V~S is a civilian.

[Long Con]

The mood was somber among The Monitor's gathered forces. King Dedede was inconsolable at the loss of everything he had ever known, and he had been sitting and staring at the same spot on the ground for hours.

The Monitor spoke. "The Anti-Monitor will strike again, and again after that. Our only chance is to locate the source of the Wave, and neutralize it."

"And how th'hell are we s'posed ta be doing that?" cried out Seamus Fitzroy. "Ye've seen what th'Anti-Monitor can do!"

"That is why I have enhanced each of your power sets - you all have abilities you were unaware of, quantum potentials waiting to be activated." The Monitor turned to Lassie. "Lassie, good girl, power up the multiversal scanner, would you?"

Lassie cocked her head, then turned to the unit and barked once, sending a green glowing wave of light from her mouth to the machine, which buzzed to life instantly.

"That's some dog!" said Abed, wide-eyed. "So... what do we do now?"

A deep and gravelly voice answered his question. "We find that son of a bitch," King Dedede walked slowly from the shadows, a fiery glint behind both eyes. "We find him, and we make him pay!"

Day 1 has begun, and it will last 48 hours! Lynch someone!

[Epignosis]

Sloonei and dizzy both have high mafia equity, but low teammate equity, thus killing one will tell us more about the other as they’re in a non-mechanical 1v1 dipole.

That’s my quota of Serious Mafia Terms for the day, you’re welcome.

This is horseshit.

We're not looking for teammates.

[sig]

Spoiler: show

Also jay the fact that I’m playing at all during D0 despite having stated I wouldn’t be (we see how long that lasted!), should be a fairly good indicator I’m town. I don’t feel the need to get sucked in quite as much as scum.

In inception you pretty much held back until day 2

I'll talk more about this later, but nanook is playing within his scum meta in everything from tone to posting style.

I literally just played two games with him where he was mafia, one I was indy so didn't care much to hunt and one where I was civ and did. Both times I knew he was mafia, before any information or anything game one i was brushed off and mafia won.

Game 2 it was a mix Epi jumped on and we won the game.

Now having said that during Circut, I believe, before I seriously called him out I skimmed over inception and just did again his playstyle and tone doesn't match inception but matches the other two.

He's being overly aggressive and defensive and honestly way to aggressive for this phase in the game, for the level of commitment I've put into going after him, and for the amount of votes/attention he's getting from everybody.

Only reason he's doing this? Since I again successfully called his alignment and he's pissed off.

If not then he's just a hella toxic player and honestly should be lynched anyway. Though given his last few games I doubt that's the case.

Right, me being annoyed at you SRing me for literally no other reason than “I don’t know what Nanook’s town game looks like” makes me hella toxic. Ok.
[/quote]

What would make you toxic is calling me an idiot. Buuuuuut, like I said I don't think your toxic just mafia again and annoyed you rolled scum for like the 4th time in a row.

Also I read over your inception game, so I wouldn't say I have no idea what your town game looks like.

linki: DAY ONE here we go.

[NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME]

Sloonei and dizzy both have high mafia equity, but low teammate equity, thus killing one will tell us more about the other as they’re in a non-mechanical 1v1 dipole.

That’s my quota of Serious Mafia Terms for the day, you’re welcome.

This is horseshit.

We're not looking for teammates.

Congratulations you’ve identified the joke

[JaggedJimmyJay]

quite

I suppose it's right there in the tbqh.

I gave TH a plus because of that snap read of his on Radish. I associate TH with a hunting style that is somewhat unorthodox, and getting rankled by Radish's deep thoughts fits the bill of what I expect. It's not a post that I cared about, and I would suspect most people wouldn't do much of anything with it. TH did. Cool beans.

[sig]

[VOTE: Nanook] aubergine

I don't usually place a vote this early, but I'm confident here so I'll throw it out.