The Syndicate

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:44 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:08 pm I'll admit, I do find it a bit weird how LC still has his vote on Sloonei after all this time without providing any further elaboration.

It's just a remnant by now, of a vote cast in a boring thread. Don't consider it to mean he's my top suspect... I put more focus in my other game today due to the 72-hour days in this one, and I need to get back in here and play.

Hi there, I want you to elaborate on that false dichotomy you pointed out.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:21 pm Of the thirteen people in the thread, I feel like Epi, speed and TSP have been the most under the radar (LC too, but he has been brought up by many people so if that was his strategy it failed). Not sure about TSP since I have never played with him but Epi and speed are typically a lot more vocal and seeing only their comparatively minor contributions to the game seems weird.

Again, not my strategy, just haven't put the time in yet.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:42 pm I think Sloonei is good anyway.

GTH on Funnygurl? Turnip? Mac? Me?

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:34 pm [VOTE: tsaccount] aubergine

My concerns about ts have not been addressed, but I am now having a harder time reading his utter frustration with me as anything but genuine.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:45 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:44 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:08 pm I'll admit, I do find it a bit weird how LC still has his vote on Sloonei after all this time without providing any further elaboration.

It's just a remnant by now, of a vote cast in a boring thread. Don't consider it to mean he's my top suspect... I put more focus in my other game today due to the 72-hour days in this one, and I need to get back in here and play.

Hi there, I want you to elaborate on that false dichotomy you pointed out.

Dragomir presented only two possible reasons why I did my Sloonei vote: lazy town or lazy mafia. Neither of them match the reality of my vote.

Going back to my Dominion game with my wife, I'll be back on later.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:47 pm Dragomir presented only two possible reasons why I did my Sloonei vote: lazy town or lazy mafia. Neither of them match the reality of my vote.

Going back to my Dominion game with my wife, I'll be back on later.

When they are back, give me the reality.

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:18 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:46 pm

Long Con wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:44 pm

speedchuck wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 2:29 pm Sometimes you have to vote without giving a reason. You've got to tickle their balls a little.

LC especially needs ball tickling. His first couple of posts looked fun, but after he voted for Sloonei and got questioned for it his energy just died. Ever since then each post has been ineffectual defense without any of that town spark.

Fair enough, ball tickling is legit.

I'm not usually the high-energy star of Day 1, either alignment. Too many divas out there to compete with, I listen more than I talk.

What are your thoughts on the Sloonei/ts account drama?

I need to go over it again, my initial recollection is Much Ado About Nothing.

Plagiarist.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:43 pm sloonei and ts being w/w is my new favorite conspiracy theory

Sloonei wouldn't be comfortable with that. He'd try if you asked, but he's not. This is not bad Sloonei and bad TS.

I was about to move my vote to leetic but I saw he already has 4 votes.

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:50 pm I just...completely disagree with everything TS says. I don't know what to do about that.

I do.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:57 pm LC playing scummy on purpose is not his civ MO

Disagree.

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:19 pm The hell is Epignosis? I thought he was made of free time right now

Number one, why do you care about little me so much?

Number two, I'm in two games. Day 1 just ended earlier in the other one

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:23 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:19 pm The hell is Epignosis? I thought he was made of free time right now

I've given epi a pass so far in here. My game just had a deadline and he was heavily involved there. We've got ~48 hours left here. He'll show up.

Fuckin' A.

Does anyone else think it's weird that we have ~40 hours left and I'm already at L-3?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:19 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:17 pm Post #342 and #346 seem to be confirmation bias because they show turnip is starting with the conclusion- Sloonei is scum- and then seeing the play fit into that pattern, rather than looking at the play and deciding that they are scum because xyz.

I have read very little but I am exceptionally confident Sloonei is town so anyone accused of "starting with the conclusion Sloonei is scum" immediately bears analysis.

Agreed.

This is unrelated to all things, but ts account called a vote for me in the thread but didn't cast it in the poll.
[mention]ts account[/mention] you gotta vote in the poll to make it official.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm Does anyone else think it's weird that we have ~40 hours left and I'm already at L-3?

No. What's weird about it?

MacDougall wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 8:40 pm The completionist in me now wants to solve Epi.

You miss me, don't you?

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:42 pm I think Sloonei is good anyway.

GTH on Funnygurl? Turnip? Mac? Me?

I can do this. I have good opinions on all of you.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm This is unrelated to all things, but ts account called a vote for me in the thread but didn't cast it in the poll.
@ts account you gotta vote in the poll to make it official.

...

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:34 pm [VOTE: tsaccount] aubergine

My concerns about ts have not been addressed, but I am now having a harder time reading his utter frustration with me as anything but genuine.

My vote stands. Convince me otherwise.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:13 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:57 pm LC playing scummy on purpose is not his civ MO

Disagree.

Care to elaborate? I'm actually pretty good at reading him, probably the best at it, if I'm being honest

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:16 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:23 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 6:19 pm The hell is Epignosis? I thought he was made of free time right now

I've given epi a pass so far in here. My game just had a deadline and he was heavily involved there. We've got ~48 hours left here. He'll show up.

Fuckin' A.

Does your wife know about A?

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:35 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:13 pm

Turnip Head wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 5:57 pm LC playing scummy on purpose is not his civ MO

Disagree.

Care to elaborate? I'm actually pretty good at reading him, probably the best at it, if I'm being honest

If you're the best at reading Long Con I'll leave you to it. You don't need any explanation from me.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:34 pm
My vote stands. Convince me otherwise.

I do not think that is how it works. I do not believe I have seen a case from you yet, so perhaps you can share that with me and I can either dismiss it outright or dismiss it piece by piece depending how bad it is.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm This is unrelated to all things, but ts account called a vote for me in the thread but didn't cast it in the poll.
@ts account you gotta vote in the poll to make it official.

...

Thanks.

Your vote is wrong.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:38 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:34 pm
My vote stands. Convince me otherwise.

I do not think that is how it works. I do not believe I have seen a case from you yet, so perhaps you can share that with me and I can either dismiss it outright or dismiss it piece by piece depending how bad it is.

You don't know how it works.

Here is how it works:

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm Does anyone else think it's weird that we have ~40 hours left and I'm already at L-3?

No. What's weird about it?

I think it's likely that at least one of my voters is scum. Probably precisely one since it would be risky for mafia to gang up on someone this early

All three of my scum partners from the game that ended a week ago have declared me a confident town read. That ought to grant me confirmed town status, I think.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:39 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm This is unrelated to all things, but ts account called a vote for me in the thread but didn't cast it in the poll.
@ts account you gotta vote in the poll to make it official.

...

Thanks.

Your vote is wrong.

Probably so, but better to be confident about my reads to make it easier for people to read me, and to be wrong, than to not push anywhere and stay in the PoE.

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm Does anyone else think it's weird that we have ~40 hours left and I'm already at L-3?

No. What's weird about it?

I think it's likely that at least one of my voters is scum. Probably precisely one since it would be risky for mafia to gang up on someone this early

Why? Which one?

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:39 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:33 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm This is unrelated to all things, but ts account called a vote for me in the thread but didn't cast it in the poll.
@ts account you gotta vote in the poll to make it official.

...

Thanks.

Your vote is wrong.

Probably so, but better to be confident about my reads to make it easier for people to read me, and to be wrong, than to not push anywhere and stay in the PoE.

I once again disagree. Push your reads forward. It is easier for others to judge you based on your effort level rather than the confidence with which you state reads.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:34 pm [VOTE: tsaccount] aubergine

My concerns about ts have not been addressed, but I am now having a harder time reading his utter frustration with me as anything but genuine.

My vote stands. Convince me otherwise.

Why does your vote stand where it stands? Is this a social distancing thing?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:43 pm Probably so, but better to be confident about my reads to make it easier for people to read me, and to be wrong, than to not push anywhere and stay in the PoE.

I once again disagree. Push your reads forward. It is easier for others to judge you based on your effort level rather than the confidence with which you state reads.
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You are basically saying the same thing as me, but saying that you disagree.

I think the CDC would advise us all to avoid large bandwagons.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:41 pm All three of my scum partners from the game that ended a week ago have declared me a confident town read. That ought to grant me confirmed town status, I think.

Well no, but okay. I'll allow it.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:44 pm You are basically saying the same thing as me, but saying that you disagree.

I... don't see how that's the case. This does not matter.
Who's your strongest town read in the game right now?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:34 pm [VOTE: tsaccount] aubergine

My concerns about ts have not been addressed, but I am now having a harder time reading his utter frustration with me as anything but genuine.

My vote stands. Convince me otherwise.

Why does your vote stand where it stands? Is this a social distancing thing?

I'll make this real simple for you. Ready?

I think ts is

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm Does anyone else think it's weird that we have ~40 hours left and I'm already at L-3?

No. What's weird about it?

I think it's likely that at least one of my voters is scum. Probably precisely one since it would be risky for mafia to gang up on someone this early

i mean rng also gives you the same thing

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm I... don't see how that's the case. This does not matter.
Who's your strongest town read in the game right now?

leetic

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:42 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:41 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:20 pm Does anyone else think it's weird that we have ~40 hours left and I'm already at L-3?

No. What's weird about it?

I think it's likely that at least one of my voters is scum. Probably precisely one since it would be risky for mafia to gang up on someone this early

Why? Which one?

It's still pretty early in the game when many users are throwing around suspicions. But a wagon of four people, rather close to the number needed to hammer, is not a thrown suspicion. It's a clear choice. Especially jarring when no other wagon has reached three yet.

One of the users on my wagon is ted, who I have found suspicious for other reasons. But I think the person whose vote on me looks the worst is Mac. First of all is how subtly he voted - he didn't even post that he voted for me until much later, despite being the third vote on me - the point where it becomes a viable wagon. Secondly, when he finally posted a reason for the vote, he just phrased it as following ted and not mentioning anything about me. Overall, a very sneaky vote that was barely noticed, and the results of which are clear.

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm I... don't see how that's the case. This does not matter.
Who's your strongest town read in the game right now?

leetic

why?

Funnygurl555 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:47 pm i mean rng also gives you the same thing

I got flashbacks to where I said there was a wolf in three players and you said this exact thing. There were no wolves in those three players and I was shook.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:34 pm [VOTE: tsaccount] aubergine

My concerns about ts have not been addressed, but I am now having a harder time reading his utter frustration with me as anything but genuine.

My vote stands. Convince me otherwise.

Why does your vote stand where it stands? Is this a social distancing thing?

I'll make this real simple for you. Ready?

I think ts is

Spoiler: show

mafia

If I were to ask why, would you give me a satisfying answer?

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:51 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm I... don't see how that's the case. This does not matter.
Who's your strongest town read in the game right now?

leetic

why?

Have you considered reading my posts or should I repeat myself?

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:52 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:51 pm

ts account wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:48 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm I... don't see how that's the case. This does not matter.
Who's your strongest town read in the game right now?

leetic

why?

Have you considered reading my posts or should I repeat myself?

Gimme the up-to-the-minute condensed version of this read please.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:52 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:46 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:44 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:34 pm

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:46 pm

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 10:34 pm [VOTE: tsaccount] aubergine

My concerns about ts have not been addressed, but I am now having a harder time reading his utter frustration with me as anything but genuine.

My vote stands. Convince me otherwise.

Why does your vote stand where it stands? Is this a social distancing thing?

I'll make this real simple for you. Ready?

I think ts is

Spoiler: show

mafia

If I were to ask why, would you give me a satisfying answer?

I don't know the answer to that. What would satisfy you? I've already said I think ts is engaging in bullshit discussion about mechanics and people who talk about mechanics. ts looks nervous. Like someone who bit off more than he can chew and is trying to make himself out to be the big fish regardless.

Sloonei wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:54 pm Gimme the up-to-the-minute condensed version of this read please.

I had a page one mindmeld with leetic, so right off the bat I was looking at them to be town. Their snapback onto me over our 1v1 felt very "leetic" in that it was misconstrued, something leetic does quite often. But what struck me about it was how much it felt like fear of pocketing- it seemed like a direct response to my town read of the slot. This is a little bit tempered by their insistence that they have no fear of pocketing, and it means I have to decide whether leetic is lying about fear of pocketing or if that post was as weird and bizarre as everyone else seemed to think it was. Currently, I agree with them that there should not be four players on their wagon, and I do think funnygurl has some scum equity. If I consider that I thought leetic to be town beforehand and funnygurl to be scum beforehand, funnygurl joining the leetic wagon is certainly a red flag for me and slightly solidifies both of these reads.

I'm not voting Sloonei and I'm not voting leetic.

Do better.

Epignosis wrote: ↑Tue Mar 31, 2020 11:57 pm I don't know the answer to that. What would satisfy you? I've already said I think ts is engaging in bullshit discussion about mechanics and people who talk about mechanics. ts looks nervous. Like someone who bit off more than he can chew and is trying to make himself out to be the big fish regardless.

Remind me to tell you about the Yetifish of Many Point Scout Camp.