The Syndicate

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:22 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:12 am also any thoughts on mac & jay or others you haven't mentioned much yet? who's on your not quite town yet but possibly could be list

mac is not doing anything, so i can't read there.

i am usually a slow starter nowadays and like to drift my eyes across the thread on d1, see if anything sticks out to me. i don't keep any detailed notes or force myself to take stances if nothing jumped out at me.

that + i like to keep strong players unread because most of the time, if they're town they'll die early (so attempting to make a read seems like a waste of time) and if they're mafia, most likely i wouldn't be able to push them even if i thought they were mafia anyway / they're hard to catch early.

i have made 2 reads and i'm waiting on 2 more now, depending on answers.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:25 am**

sorry that i'm avoiding your question, but i guess i don't really have a good answer to it with the knowledge of how i operate

i am pretty straightforward with my town reads, so chances are you'll see me talking about them with time passing by

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:32 am**

I’m getting a vague impression on reading that there isn’t a great deal of consensus so far, that the game is a collection of solo solving pockets without cohesion (myself included). That’s not my favorite thing. Maybe this will help me to sort that:

Could everyone please name your top four town reads, or as many as you want/can if not four? Thanks.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:34 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:22 am
Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:12 am also any thoughts on mac & jay or others you haven't mentioned much yet? who's on your not quite town yet but possibly could be list
mac is not doing anything, so i can't read there.

i am usually a slow starter nowadays and like to drift my eyes across the thread on d1, see if anything sticks out to me. i don't keep any detailed notes or force myself to take stances if nothing jumped out at me.

that + i like to keep strong players unread because most of the time, if they're town they'll die early (so attempting to make a read seems like a waste of time) and if they're mafia, most likely i wouldn't be able to push them even if i thought they were mafia anyway / they're hard to catch early.

i have made 2 reads and i'm waiting on 2 more now, depending on answers.

interesting.. but also valid i guess, everyone has their own style it seems. and thats true it is still very early in the game, I think I haven't played in so long that I forget how the first few days can be. strong players freak me out a lil bit too, but do you think that if they don't die after the first few nights then it's likely that they're mafia?

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:37 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:34 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:22 am
Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:12 am also any thoughts on mac & jay or others you haven't mentioned much yet? who's on your not quite town yet but possibly could be list
mac is not doing anything, so i can't read there.

i am usually a slow starter nowadays and like to drift my eyes across the thread on d1, see if anything sticks out to me. i don't keep any detailed notes or force myself to take stances if nothing jumped out at me.

that + i like to keep strong players unread because most of the time, if they're town they'll die early (so attempting to make a read seems like a waste of time) and if they're mafia, most likely i wouldn't be able to push them even if i thought they were mafia anyway / they're hard to catch early.

i have made 2 reads and i'm waiting on 2 more now, depending on answers.
interesting.. but also valid i guess, everyone has their own style it seems. and thats true it is still very early in the game, I think I haven't played in so long that I forget how the first few days can be. strong players freak me out a lil bit too, but do you think that if they don't die after the first few nights then it's likely that they're mafia?

it's on a case by case basis - they could still be town and be wrong on like ~everything, but due to their reputation, even if they're wrong they are likely to get killed early anyway by the wolves.

i'd say if one of them ends up in YeLo (so at must vote correctly or we lose the game) then that's definitely something wrong. i guess first night doesn't really raise a lot of alarm bells. they should almost never end up at YeLo though. if both of them are alive there then i'd say with a high degree of confidence that there must be at least one in between them.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am**

It’s really best to avoid this kind of dialogue. If ted is town, the mafia are now immediately less likely to kill me than they were before this came into the thread. It’s not ideal to introduce wifom into the game beyond what’s already embedded in it.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:42 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am It’s really best to avoid this kind of dialogue. If ted is town, the mafia are now immediately less likely to kill me than they were before this came into the thread. It’s not ideal to introduce wifom into the game beyond what’s already embedded in it.

it's a valid concern - but most of the time this doesn't matter.

doing it for wifom reasons when you can lead yeets on them doesn't seem worthwhile.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:44 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:32 am I’m getting a vague impression on reading that there isn’t a great deal of consensus so far, that the game is a collection of solo solving pockets without cohesion (myself included). That’s not my favorite thing. Maybe this will help me to sort that:

Could everyone please name your top four town reads, or as many as you want/can if not four? Thanks.

can we include with this who we targeted to IM today too? i definitely think working together as much as possible is good. I IMed Justplayingitcool

top 4 town in my mind 4 now:

JaggedJimmyJay
Seanzie
falcon45ca
Marmot

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:45 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am It’s really best to avoid this kind of dialogue. If ted is town, the mafia are now immediately less likely to kill me than they were before this came into the thread. It’s not ideal to introduce wifom into the game beyond what’s already embedded in it.

is this not a good thing for you, though? not getting killed seems pretty cool to me

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:47 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:45 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:41 am It’s really best to avoid this kind of dialogue. If ted is town, the mafia are now immediately less likely to kill me than they were before this came into the thread. It’s not ideal to introduce wifom into the game beyond what’s already embedded in it.
is this not a good thing for you, though? not getting killed seems pretty cool to me

Not necessarily. I don’t want to discuss it further. I leave y’all to your discretion.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:51 am**

ok no problem

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:07 am**

It’d be ideal to know who everyone IMed in addition to why they chose that person in particular.

I IMed Tony because I never understand his solving approach very well and thought a private channel might help us communicate.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:08 am**

Some people, like myself, actively try to survive at least to the midgame

Some people, like Jay, prefer to die early and leave a sexy corpse

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:08 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:33 am My towncore is jpic bo ted and falcon

why

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:09 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:08 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:33 am My towncore is jpic bo ted and falcon
why

Pure whimsy

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:10 am**

i went for jpic before D0 even started i believe, i didn't know if we can change until D1

i think i can read him pretty well, but most of the reason was because we formed a fake masonry in GoC that wasn't really legit. well, now it is.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:11 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:08 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:33 am My towncore is jpic bo ted and falcon
why

bc of this post i assumed

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:12 am**

Thanks Dana I didn’t even notice that

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:13 am**

was it just me that thought gavial's re-entry to the thread was pretty limp

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:18 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:13 am was it just me that thought gavial's re-entry to the thread was pretty limp

I would describe Gavial’s entire ISO so far as “these posts exist”

Anyone with a confident town read there ought to expand. I briefly liked his little dig into my reads list about JPIC. That’s tiny though.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:18 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:13 am was it just me that thought gavial's re-entry to the thread was pretty limp

it seemed mostly okay-ish to me, is he usually stronger? lots of jokes i guess but it is still early day 1

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:20 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:18 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:13 am was it just me that thought gavial's re-entry to the thread was pretty limp
it seemed mostly okay-ish to me, is he usually stronger? lots of jokes i guess but it is still early day 1

i don't know what the usual is for him

but popping in, giving two seeming random town reads on two singular posts, making a readslist (that you can't even keep track of - he didn't say anything about his PoE'd people), and then asking one of your PoE'd people if you can sheep their vote and then leaving the thread seems about as limp as it gets

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:24 am**

tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:20 am
Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:18 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:13 am was it just me that thought gavial's re-entry to the thread was pretty limp
it seemed mostly okay-ish to me, is he usually stronger? lots of jokes i guess but it is still early day 1
i don't know what the usual is for him

but popping in, giving two seeming random town reads on two singular posts, making a readslist (that you can't even keep track of - he didn't say anything about his PoE'd people), and then asking one of your PoE'd people if you can sheep their vote and then leaving the thread seems about as limp as it gets

hmmmm that is true.. much to think about

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:35 am**

i''ve spent 2 minutes in a seanzie iso (i said it correctly!)

i think he's townie, not as strong as the other two though

so...getting closer to the 4 requested. falcon / dana / seanzie

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:38 am**

now that i think about it, seanzie's picture seems familiar, but i can't pinpoint where i know it from

did they play in champs?

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:51 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 4:32 am I’m getting a vague impression on reading that there isn’t a great deal of consensus so far, that the game is a collection of solo solving pockets without cohesion (myself included). That’s not my favorite thing. Maybe this will help me to sort that:

Could everyone please name your top four town reads, or as many as you want/can if not four? Thanks.

Dana
Ted
JJJ

I don't have four tbh.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:52 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:07 am It’d be ideal to know who everyone IMed in addition to why they chose that person in particular.

I IMed Tony because I never understand his solving approach very well and thought a private channel might help us communicate.

I IMed marmot because I am the marmot whisperer.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:54 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:18 am
tedxtr wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:13 am was it just me that thought gavial's re-entry to the thread was pretty limp
I would describe Gavial’s entire ISO so far as “these posts exist”

Anyone with a confident town read there ought to expand. I briefly liked his little dig into my reads list about JPIC. That’s tiny though.

I didn't

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:54 am**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:52 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:07 am It’d be ideal to know who everyone IMed in addition to why they chose that person in particular.

I IMed Tony because I never understand his solving approach very well and thought a private channel might help us communicate.
I IMed marmot because I am the marmot whisperer.

What have your Marmot senses told you this time?

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:56 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:54 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:52 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:07 am It’d be ideal to know who everyone IMed in addition to why they chose that person in particular.

I IMed Tony because I never understand his solving approach very well and thought a private channel might help us communicate.
I IMed marmot because I am the marmot whisperer.
What have your Marmot senses told you this time?

Still null in all honesty, but I am only slightly leaning town. Marmot has been quiet in our chat so far.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:57 am**

[VOTE: Gavial] aubergine

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:57 am**

Just call me Cesar Millan from now on

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:58 am**

Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:59 am**

update : a quick meta check shows that seanzie must've pushed agendas with questions his entire page 1 of the mafia game (beezelbub?)

in here the affirmations to questions ratio must be like... 10 to 1.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:59 am**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:58 am Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh

What inspires your town read of him?

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:59 am**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:58 am Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh

the people voting me don't know either

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:01 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:59 am
Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:58 am Ted seems to get suspected early in every single game I have played with him. idk why that is tbh
What inspires your town read of him?

Ironically it's because people suspect him. His read on gav seems genuine and I'm not getting scummy vibes from him in our instant chat.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:01 am**

I like ted's take on Gavial this page. I like the dialogue on Jay/Mac less. That can be chalked up to strategy, so I won't make a huge stink.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:02 am**

Having said that, I wouldn't be shocked if ted picked me for his messaging in the sole purpose to pocket me

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:03 am**

Main gripe with Gavial is that I can take pretty much every read he has posted in this thread and call it fake without feeling like it's a reach. The hunt doesn't feel especially authentic.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:04 am**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:02 am Having said that, I wouldn't be shocked if ted picked me for his messaging in the sole purpose to pocket me

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:06 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:03 am Main gripe with Gavial is that I can take pretty much every read he has posted in this thread and call it fake without feeling like it's a reach. The hunt doesn't feel especially authentic.

i have an issue with the mac progression

but his re-entry to the thread really felt wolfy to me - it feels like he did nothing with his time in order to advance any reads / leads or anything

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:07 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:09 pm Online - Town
Gavial ←

Offline - POE
Esooa ←
falcon45ca ←

I'd appreciate if you could say more about these, Marmot.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:41 am**

Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:08 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:33 am My towncore is jpic bo ted and falcon
why
bc of this post i assumed

The fact that you noticed that is pretty amazing and I TR you even more for it.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:48 am**

JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:07 am
Marmot wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 10:09 pm Online - Town
Gavial ←

Offline - POE
Esooa ←
falcon45ca ←
I'd appreciate if you could say more about these, Marmot.

Gavin - tbh my read of him has dropped slightly. His reads this game seem more duplicative of others', and that's shown itself in more recent posts.

Falcon - my one memory of him is his townread of Sean for a spelling mistake, that wasn't a mistake. I'd like more falcon memories.

Esooa - she jumps a little bit due fostering more discussion earlier.

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:49 am**

ok marmot can be town

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:51 am**

Justplayingitcool wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:49 am ok marmot can be town

And I haven't even responded to you yet

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 7:50 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 12:53 am
BoKnows wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:18 pm
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Sun Apr 25, 2021 11:12 pm Anyone else feel like 6 town reads is attainable right now? Marmot has reached the target.
6 seems high

I suppose it would seem that way for someone with 0 reads.

hahha fair enough

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:20 am**

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 6:41 am
Dana wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:11 am
JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 5:08 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Apr 26, 2021 1:33 am My towncore is jpic bo ted and falcon
why
bc of this post i assumed

The fact that you noticed that is pretty amazing and I TR you even more for it.

Idk I didn't think it was that subtle

Posted: **Mon Apr 26, 2021 8:21 am**

Later tonight I'm going to ISO every player in this game and find all the town

But for now I'm going to bed, l8rs h8rs

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