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Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:07 am**

[VOTE: vote long con] aubergine

Let's see what happens with this, if anything at all!

I don't have a huge case or anything, everything just feels stagnant and I hate when things are stagnant

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:09 am**

Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town

I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:19 am**

Invictius wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:07 am [VOTE: vote long con] aubergine

Let's see what happens with this, if anything at all!

I don't have a huge case or anything, everything just feels stagnant and I hate when things are stagnant

What happens is this.
HW, LC and Koba are Town.
Town are on the chopping block.
It’d be nice if scum was on the chopping block instead.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:20 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:09 am Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town

I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days

How do you feel about dizzy and spf voting dizzy?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:21 am**

I mean voting HK

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:21 am**

Shows how tired I am lol.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:27 am**

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:20 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:09 am Invictus, dizzy, hk, spf, falcon all town

I'm going back to hibernation now, more reads in 2-4 business days
How do you feel about dizzy and spf voting dizzy?

They should probably vote someone else

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:30 am**

Well then give them someone to go onto.
While I think Koba is town you clearly think he isn’t yet your not even trying to convince 2 of your town reads to stop voting your other one.
While I told Koba he been bad boy for voting HK.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:31 am**

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:30 am Well then give them someone to go onto.
While I think Koba is town you clearly think he isn’t yet your not even trying to convince 2 of your town reads to stop voting your other one.
While I told Koba he been bad boy for voting HK.

Naw I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:31 am**

My point is convince your other 2 town on your read rather then let them sit on your other town read.

Like I don’t massively scum read anyone yet.
I’m also still waiting on responses from Alison.
If I had a scum read I’d have told Koba and HK to vote that together.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:32 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:31 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:30 am Well then give them someone to go onto.
While I think Koba is town you clearly think he isn’t yet your not even trying to convince 2 of your town reads to stop voting your other one.
While I told Koba he been bad boy for voting HK.
Naw I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing

Explain how your helping then.
How are you helping town?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:32 am**

Yeah no I understand what you're saying

I just don't care about it

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:33 am**

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:32 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:31 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:30 am Well then give them someone to go onto.
While I think Koba is town you clearly think he isn’t yet your not even trying to convince 2 of your town reads to stop voting your other one.
While I told Koba he been bad boy for voting HK.
Naw I'm just gonna keep doing what I'm doing
Explain how your helping then.
How are you helping town?

I'm in hibernation ask me in 2-5 business days

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 am**

Tryin ta coast this game are we Nanook?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:00 am**

my vote is still up in the air, gavial. if you feel strongly about the current wagons being town and you have a good alternative, i will earnestly consider it

but you dont seem to be suggesting alternatives

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:02 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:00 am my vote is still up in the air, gavial. if you feel strongly about the current wagons being town and you have a good alternative, i will earnestly consider it

but you dont seem to be suggesting alternatives

Thoughts on long con?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:10 am**

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 am Tryin ta coast this game are we Nanook?

i would love to suggest a lovely Policy if i may. i dont usually do this but this is quite the egregious case of a player who is quite literally playing so anti town that it is not fair to the rest of the table that we should deal or approve of this kind of behavior. if they are town, so be it, we diminish our chance of winning.

if they are some activated IC doing the shitty "imma act scummy then be surprised when ppl scumread me for playing blatantly scummy" then im extremely disappointed but at this point they've essentially softed a self clearing role via their behavior which means they need to pay up with it or get limmed.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:11 am**

Invictius wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:02 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:00 am my vote is still up in the air, gavial. if you feel strongly about the current wagons being town and you have a good alternative, i will earnestly consider it

but you dont seem to be suggesting alternatives
Thoughts on long con?

i said they were town - why would they be scum here?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:19 am**

Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 am Tryin ta coast this game are we Nanook?

Uh....

Pretty explicitly coasting to d3 at minimum yeah

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:19 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:10 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 am Tryin ta coast this game are we Nanook?
i would love to suggest a lovely Policy if i may. i dont usually do this but this is quite the egregious case of a player who is quite literally playing so anti town that it is not fair to the rest of the table that we should deal or approve of this kind of behavior. if they are town, so be it, we diminish our chance of winning.

if they are some activated IC doing the shitty "imma act scummy then be surprised when ppl scumread me for playing blatantly scummy" then im extremely disappointed but at this point they've essentially softed a self clearing role via their behavior which means they need to pay up with it or get limmed.

Big eyeroll

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:20 am**

Invictius wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:02 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:00 am my vote is still up in the air, gavial. if you feel strongly about the current wagons being town and you have a good alternative, i will earnestly consider it

but you dont seem to be suggesting alternatives
Thoughts on long con?

i thought that https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 18#p785218 was a mildly villagery post, in the sense that it had this hyper paranoid tinfoil/conspiratorial energy that wolves usually do not have. i am lukewarm about the rest of his posts, but i dont really wanna chop him today

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am**

no clue what nanook's alignment is yet

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:19 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:10 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 am Tryin ta coast this game are we Nanook?
i would love to suggest a lovely Policy if i may. i dont usually do this but this is quite the egregious case of a player who is quite literally playing so anti town that it is not fair to the rest of the table that we should deal or approve of this kind of behavior. if they are town, so be it, we diminish our chance of winning.

if they are some activated IC doing the shitty "imma act scummy then be surprised when ppl scumread me for playing blatantly scummy" then im extremely disappointed but at this point they've essentially softed a self clearing role via their behavior which means they need to pay up with it or get limmed.
Big eyeroll

u can eyeroll at me all u want, what I say is true.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am**

I don't like that you're trying to force a wagon towards me at all here.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:23 am**

also idk if allison's sleep schedule has changed but i dont like that she has not posted recently at all - she did this coasting strategy when we were scum together last time - which may imply the current wagons are TvT with scum!allison

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:23 am**

@Alison

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am no clue what nanook's alignment is yet

i mean they are purposefully trying to obfuscate it in an extremely anti town way that hurts solving - so if they're town they're playing like a jackass with no regard for anyone else trying to solve the game

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am**

[VOTE: falcon45ca
] aubergine

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:25 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am [VOTE: falcon45ca
] aubergine

[VOTE: falcon45ca] aubergine

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:25 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am no clue what nanook's alignment is yet
i mean they are purposefully trying to obfuscate it in an extremely anti town way that hurts solving - so if they're town they're playing like a jackass with no regard for anyone else trying to solve the game

nanook is? i dont really get that impression at all, he seems fine

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:26 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:25 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am no clue what nanook's alignment is yet
i mean they are purposefully trying to obfuscate it in an extremely anti town way that hurts solving - so if they're town they're playing like a jackass with no regard for anyone else trying to solve the game
nanook is? i dont really get that impression at all, he seems fine

is this how they normally play?

i barely paid attention to them in bread mafia bc they kept voting town lol

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:28 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:26 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:25 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am no clue what nanook's alignment is yet
i mean they are purposefully trying to obfuscate it in an extremely anti town way that hurts solving - so if they're town they're playing like a jackass with no regard for anyone else trying to solve the game
nanook is? i dont really get that impression at all, he seems fine
is this how they normally play?

i barely paid attention to them in bread mafia bc they kept voting town lol

yeah he has a pretty chill playstyle but he tryhards when it counts in my experience

i dont mind him coasting as long as he picks it up when it's necessary, and i trust that he will

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:28 am**

when u repeatedly just do whatever u want and refuse to answer for your actions and then say "im gonna do nothing until d3" its like Not good play and does not facilitate a pro-solve environment. like imagine we all did that? how would we play the game?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:29 am**

i think that when they have their vote on me and refuse to say anything about it and also silent voted.

im not here to be a puppet on display to dance for others. everyone is required to participate . i do not make exceptions unless there is a modconfirmed message saying they are town - and even then i will prod u if u try to do nothing.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:39 am**

if nanook is actually town IC they are horribly misplaying how you are supposed to play that role and this is the shitty way of doing it that gives town absolutely 0 info and just wastes massive amounts of time

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:39 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:11 am
Invictius wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:02 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:00 am my vote is still up in the air, gavial. if you feel strongly about the current wagons being town and you have a good alternative, i will earnestly consider it

but you dont seem to be suggesting alternatives
Thoughts on long con?
i said they were town - why would they be scum here?

for the exact reasons i said. in a scenario where both you and hk are town, scum have to do very little outside of letting the wagons play out and they're guaranteed a scum flip.

outside of that, there's no reason to hard lock town reads halfway through day 1(well 60% through day 1) and discussion doesn't hurt. i just generally feel like their impact is low.

alison is another person that has gone mia since the start of the phase as well.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:41 am**

im willing to also wagon allison for info but i fear we dont have the time to get any information out of any push we make here now :/

really hating that the game started with role PMs sent out vs confirmations (unless im wrong and then pee pee poo poo)

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:42 am**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:28 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:26 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:25 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am no clue what nanook's alignment is yet
i mean they are purposefully trying to obfuscate it in an extremely anti town way that hurts solving - so if they're town they're playing like a jackass with no regard for anyone else trying to solve the game
nanook is? i dont really get that impression at all, he seems fine
is this how they normally play?

i barely paid attention to them in bread mafia bc they kept voting town lol
yeah he has a pretty chill playstyle but he tryhards when it counts in my experience

i dont mind him coasting as long as he picks it up when it's necessary, and i trust that he will

the issue is when he's scum he literally has to do very little to get near end game. And every phase counts otherwise why do any of us bother at all unless it's end game

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:43 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:41 am im willing to also wagon allison for info but i fear we dont have the time to get any information out of any push we make here now :/

really hating that the game started with role PMs sent out vs confirmations (unless im wrong and then pee pee poo poo)

there's 17 hours left?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:43 am**

Invictius wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:42 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:28 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:26 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:25 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am no clue what nanook's alignment is yet
i mean they are purposefully trying to obfuscate it in an extremely anti town way that hurts solving - so if they're town they're playing like a jackass with no regard for anyone else trying to solve the game
nanook is? i dont really get that impression at all, he seems fine
is this how they normally play?

i barely paid attention to them in bread mafia bc they kept voting town lol
yeah he has a pretty chill playstyle but he tryhards when it counts in my experience

i dont mind him coasting as long as he picks it up when it's necessary, and i trust that he will
the issue is when he's scum he literally has to do very little to get near end game. And every phase counts otherwise why do any of us bother at all unless it's end game

yeah im also rereading my last game with him - he was super active.

like unless nanook is exactly an IC i dont think they are town here. but ive been disappointed by townies before acting this way so ((((((:

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:45 am**

Invictius wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:43 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:41 am im willing to also wagon allison for info but i fear we dont have the time to get any information out of any push we make here now :/

really hating that the game started with role PMs sent out vs confirmations (unless im wrong and then pee pee poo poo)
there's 17 hours left?

personally i got to sleep soon and then i have to work until ~2 hours before deadline so there wont be any alignment telling pushes during that time for me. i expect it may be similar for others but idk maybe the aussies will figure something out!

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:45 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:19 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:10 am
Gavial wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 12:44 am Tryin ta coast this game are we Nanook?
i would love to suggest a lovely Policy if i may. i dont usually do this but this is quite the egregious case of a player who is quite literally playing so anti town that it is not fair to the rest of the table that we should deal or approve of this kind of behavior. if they are town, so be it, we diminish our chance of winning.

if they are some activated IC doing the shitty "imma act scummy then be surprised when ppl scumread me for playing blatantly scummy" then im extremely disappointed but at this point they've essentially softed a self clearing role via their behavior which means they need to pay up with it or get limmed.
Big eyeroll
u can eyeroll at me all u want, what I say is true.

Meh

I don't really feel the need to do much d1

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:46 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am no clue what nanook's alignment is yet
i mean they are purposefully trying to obfuscate it in an extremely anti town way that hurts solving - so if they're town they're playing like a jackass with no regard for anyone else trying to solve the game

You're so melodramatic

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:47 am**

u can refute anything im saying by proving me wrong instead of just these weak whiny retorts.

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:48 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:28 am when u repeatedly just do whatever u want and refuse to answer for your actions and then say "im gonna do nothing until d3" its like Not good play and does not facilitate a pro-solve environment. like imagine we all did that? how would we play the game?

If everyone else were doing it u wouldn't

But they aren't so I am

I have limited amount of bandwidth for this game, im gonna coast until I have to focus in, until then im gonna make snap reads and meme

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:48 am**

so why are u comfortable leaving me as a leading wagon?

bc i am speaking up against you?

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:48 am**

Invictius wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:42 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:28 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:26 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:25 am
DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:24 am
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:21 am no clue what nanook's alignment is yet
i mean they are purposefully trying to obfuscate it in an extremely anti town way that hurts solving - so if they're town they're playing like a jackass with no regard for anyone else trying to solve the game
nanook is? i dont really get that impression at all, he seems fine
is this how they normally play?

i barely paid attention to them in bread mafia bc they kept voting town lol
yeah he has a pretty chill playstyle but he tryhards when it counts in my experience

i dont mind him coasting as long as he picks it up when it's necessary, and i trust that he will
the issue is when he's scum he literally has to do very little to get near end game. And every phase counts otherwise why do any of us bother at all unless it's end game

In practice this doesn't usually end up being true

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:49 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:47 am u can refute anything im saying by proving me wrong instead of just these weak whiny retorts.

And you can not be rude, but here we both are

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:49 am**

DkKoba wrote: ↑Thu May 13, 2021 1:48 am so why are u comfortable leaving me as a leading wagon?

bc i am speaking up against you?

I don't have a townread on you and I do on hk

Posted: **Thu May 13, 2021 1:50 am**

Less relevant now that he's at 2 tbf

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