Why? Werent you protesting Tutuu's town read on you earlier? That implies you found odd that she gave you that read. Why are you willing to die for someone like that?
Found odd? no, that's somewhat of a jump.
Elaborated that Tutuu should be suspicious of me in spite of gimmick so we have better chances of legitimately finding each other if not resolving each other, yes.
And i assume you found her since you are willing to die for her right? What did you find in her to be so certain so esrly in the game?
Loud Tutuu is self resolving and loud Tutuu generates pro T momentum 29% more than quiet Tutuu.
So you saying she volume told.
Can someone else confirm that volume is alignment indicative for Tutuu?
You seem to be mistaken.
I've never said that Tutuu is the icon for towny behavior.
T Tutuu is entirely a gut read.
I said Loud Tutuu is good for town.
Loud Tutuu can be wolf, but if wolf, I don't think we ever get got by it come lylo mylo. Hell Tutuu gets got as town regardless of how loud at least 50% of the time.
I'll die for Loud Tutuu.
I thought I was more clear on this than I was I guess.
So to summarize, it's a got read you are willing to put your life on the line for because Loud Tutu generates content.
In this gamestate? Sure! There's a .00008% pro town shift when doing so.
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:21 am
i feel like i must take a more definitive stance on cape because part of me thinks he's caught and part of me thinks that this is typical town cape being d1ed. but he hasn't been obviously town to me thus far and he normally is. i'm leaning towards the former. however i'm like too fucking volatile in this stance and this is most likely due to it being 11h into d1
i'll give more reads tomorrow. everyone else just seems pretty towny to me
sounds like you flipped scum... maybe idk
I feel like I have been pretty clear
eloquence wise you've been clear, i haven't been able to god read you just yet
Something told me earlier on that you were not taking the game seriously, but that doesn't ring like your wolf game from what I recall.
This is getting Sean voted eh? I'm not sure I see this as AI from Sean at all tbh
I am in agreement. Both Seanzie botes are bad.
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:47 pm
by tutuu
im struggling already, i have a gut feeling i already made a wrong read. ill rewind back time. epi wilgy town, sean lean wolf. ignore other reads i made recently. never happened
Rem wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:09 pm
I think Cape flips town
But i guess it's a fine cw i'm staying on tuttu
Nothing else to report
Oh no. I was wrong on Rem.
Again, it wouldn't be a syndicate game without a syndicate OG sussing me
DIE FROG WOLF
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:48 pm
by Cape90
Anyways
TR:
Guillotine
DrWilgy
robyn
Rem
maybe Zenon
SR:
Epignosis
tutuu
And in terms of pyxxy/Seanzie, I will just hold off but I think Seanzie's entrance and exit are more likely to be NAI for him then pyxxy's spread apart 2 posts
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:48 pm
by DrWilgy
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:47 pm
im struggling already, i have a gut feeling i already made a wrong read. ill rewind back time. epi wilgy town, sean lean wolf. ignore other reads i made recently. never happened
There's like 45 pages and the one WR is the guy with all of 2 posts?
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:49 pm
by tutuu
multiple people townreading slanking sean might mean he's spewed town by at least 1 wolf TMiing him. u should not townread slanking sean ime
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:47 pm
im struggling already, i have a gut feeling i already made a wrong read. ill rewind back time. epi wilgy town, sean lean wolf. ignore other reads i made recently. never happened
There's like 45 pages and the one WR is the guy with all of 2 posts?
yes
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:50 pm
by DrWilgy
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:49 pm
multiple people townreading slanking sean might mean he's spewed town by at least 1 wolf TMiing him. u should not townread slanking sean ime
Ok, but why should you wr slanking Sean? I think that's the issue here.
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:47 pm
im struggling already, i have a gut feeling i already made a wrong read. ill rewind back time. epi wilgy town, sean lean wolf. ignore other reads i made recently. never happened
There's like 45 pages and the one WR is the guy with all of 2 posts?
2 out of 10 non-me players have 2 posts
2 out of 10 non-me players are mafia
i dont think its silly that it happened to coincide
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:50 pm
by Cape90
I might put Rem at a maybe town since I did see this wolf game where they came off as trying harder then their usual town game.
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:49 pm
multiple people townreading slanking sean might mean he's spewed town by at least 1 wolf TMiing him. u should not townread slanking sean ime
Ok, but why should you wr slanking Sean? I think that's the issue here.
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:47 pm
im struggling already, i have a gut feeling i already made a wrong read. ill rewind back time. epi wilgy town, sean lean wolf. ignore other reads i made recently. never happened
There's like 45 pages and the one WR is the guy with all of 2 posts?
2 out of 10 non-me players have 2 posts
2 out of 10 non-me players are mafia
i dont think its silly that it happened to coincide
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:39 pm
you know i'm a powerwolf and have no trouble making reads and getting my hands dirty, so i fail to see how my play here which is relaxing and sitting back compared to my normal play is actually alignment indicative. our last game was me trying to town lead and getting d1ed for it
also pyxxy and sean both have 2 posts each. cape hasn't really been towny. so i pose the question to you about how towny everyone has actually been assuming once pyxxy and sean post more they are suddenly towny
from what i've been reading there has been minimal content thus far. or i'm just rusty
i dont think pyx and sean will be seen as towny if they continue what they're doing. i think you're asking me this in response to my post at you but im struggling to find the connections
seems pretty simple. because what you said wasn’t well thought out. "you're currently sitting comfortably and you're currently set to live to endgame if nobody changes their reads too much" is an INSANE sentence to suspect me off and it's wrong for two important reasons 1) i'm a powerwolf and i get involved and i actively push chops and get people to townread whoever i'm wolfing with 2) have you ever played a game where everyone didn't change their stances much, especially writing that post halfway into d1. i don't understand that train of thought at all, it's blatantly wrong and i don't have to think that hard to come up an argument
the second point is rather simple. pyxxy and seanzie have a combined post count of 4. you say "i dont think pyx and sean will be seen as towny if they continue what they're doing" which is once again obviously wrong. people were nai on seanzie's entry and it was nai and pyxxy simply has no posts that are relevant to the game. so i don't actually understand what you mean by the aforementioned quote. they can both post towny as scum, particularly pyxxy and it's not like you're reading into anything actually alignment indicative which gives you 0 information at all about how potentially scummy and how potentially towny they will both be
so to be blunt. i don't think what you're saying makes sense and i think everyone you suspect is low hanging fruit and you haven't given actual reasons. the good faith interpretation is that you're just townreading everyone sorta like me and you're looking into the players a bit too one dimensionally and not considering the fact there are plenty of great wolves here and targeting low posters is ill advised. another good faith interpretation is that i don't think your worldview is well thought out at all and it seems like from my perspective at this moment you are the one who is laying back and suspecting people who are easy to suspect and because of two facts i don't really find you scummy at all right now. the first being that being that wolves have worldview that is too well thought out proportionally for their effort. the second is that the views/effort/stances of players are never stagnant in mafia
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:57 pm
by robyn
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:47 pm
im struggling already, i have a gut feeling i already made a wrong read. ill rewind back time. epi wilgy town, sean lean wolf. ignore other reads i made recently. never happened
this is a good mindmeld sort of, i thought about the implications of this when writing my post and you saying it before me is just good
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:00 pm
by tutuu
Ok fine u can be town. I didnt suspect u for that reason tho, i just said im not finding u as town at that point
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:02 pm
by Cape90
I will be likely to know when Seanzie is town
His town game is SO different from his scum game as I have seen so
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:02 pm
by robyn
i should iso wigly and rem
cape's recent posts are better
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:04 pm
by tutuu
Ill townread sean and ill make the read that at least 1 wolf has defended his entrance from wilgy, cape, falcon, robyn
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:04 pm
by robyn
epi and wigly are probably the most interesting slots to me rn, i shall ask them things later, i gtg for now
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:05 pm
by tutuu
Also i dont think falcon is w/w with sean due to defending him and voting me there. I dont think he has the guts to play it out like that as wolf
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:05 pm
by robyn
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:04 pm
Ill townread sean and ill make the read that at least 1 wolf has defended his entrance from wilgy, cape, falcon, robyn
This is getting Sean voted eh? I'm not sure I see this as AI from Sean at all tbh
I didn't say it is alignment indicative, i said his entrance in underwhelming, which it is. Which is odd
So is he underwhelming town then? I find it odd that you're voting someone for reasons you don't think are AI
I dont like repeating myself, I said that Seanzie was underwhelming for his entrance, do you disagree. Do you wanna give him a pass based on the two posts he posted? Would be willing to call him town based on the two posts he posted? and what part from my responses about Seanzie did you take that I'm calling him town for it? Why are you trying to twist shit?
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:16 pm
by robyn
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:00 pm
Ok fine u can be town. I didnt suspect u for that reason tho, i just said im not finding u as town at that point
what made you find me as town? some words should be insufficient when i literally stated that "i am a powerful and i get my hands dirty" so can you explain why. idk why but you aren't thinking deeply for some reason
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:49 pm
multiple people townreading slanking sean might mean he's spewed town by at least 1 wolf TMiing him. u should not townread slanking sean ime
Ok, but why should you wr slanking Sean? I think that's the issue here.
im used to him being mega towny and aggro as town
Hmm I've seen Seanzie slanking as town once or twice but ive seen him slanking more as scum.
He pretty much waits until he can kill the loud players to take control over the thread in future days.
Hence why I don't like him entering the way he did and just leaving the hell out. He needs pressure
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 4:19 pm
by robyn
i was probably over critical @Tutuu
sorry
i find people through depth of thought a lot of the time and i don't understand your pov
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:49 pm
multiple people townreading slanking sean might mean he's spewed town by at least 1 wolf TMiing him. u should not townread slanking sean ime
Ok, but why should you wr slanking Sean? I think that's the issue here.
im used to him being mega towny and aggro as town
Hmm I've seen Seanzie slanking as town once or twice but ive seen him slanking more as scum.
He pretty much waits until he can kill the loud players to take control over the thread in future days.
Hence why I don't like him entering the way he did and just leaving the hell out. He needs pressure
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:11 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:11 am
zenon often townreads me prematurely, that's nai but it's worrying from any other player
gullio seeing tvt violence is something i'll speak about later but it should be obvious what i'm not saying here
@DrWilgy how serious is your cape vote, you haven't said much
But the question is was I right?
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:12 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:22 am
Okay, y'all need to chill out. Wtf is this 8 pages BS?
*checks player list* *Sees Zenon* *Sees Tutuu* *Sees Robyn*
Oh...
*checks again* *Sees Falcon* *Sees Wilgy*
Okay should balance a little?
*checks post counts* *Wilgy highposting*
Uhh... damn.
I have permeated even the low posters with high posting energy
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:24 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:50 am
@Seanzie reading thread naturally might be impossible but u can iso everyone except rem and zenon. Whenever u got the time. Will appreciate ur thoughts
Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 1:08 am
Im 90% sure Tutuu is just mafia here.
I'm 91% sure I'd die for Tutuu here.
Why? Werent you protesting Tutuu's town read on you earlier? That implies you found odd that she gave you that read. Why are you willing to die for someone like that?
Found odd? no, that's somewhat of a jump.
Elaborated that Tutuu should be suspicious of me in spite of gimmick so we have better chances of legitimately finding each other if not resolving each other, yes.
And i assume you found her since you are willing to die for her right? What did you find in her to be so certain so esrly in the game?
Loud Tutuu is self resolving and loud Tutuu generates pro T momentum 29% more than quiet Tutuu.
So you saying she volume told.
Can someone else confirm that volume is alignment indicative for Tutuu?
Volume is not a tell but also don't think that's what Wilgy meant but also also this is not the lord tutuu I expect so I deeply disagree with the resident doctor
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:27 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Rem wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:09 pm
I think Cape flips town
But i guess it's a fine cw i'm staying on tuttu
Nothing else to report
I agree.
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:38 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:17 pm
if i squint hard i can maybe consider townlean on guillo, and if i squint really really hard i can maybe consider townlean on zenon and rem
ho matter how hard i squint im struggling to find robyn, sean, cape, pyxxy as town
so my current guess for the wolfteam is 2/4 from those
Robyn is like pretty towny why do you disagree?
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:53 pm
by pyxxy
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:28 pm
Name: Neon Zenon Abigail the 3rd
Age: 20 something
Gender: Grill
Location: Formerly Ohio
Hobbies: Whining on the intranet about being booooored
Looking for: Cute anime gifs
Dealbreakers: I'm emotional so like gotta deal with that lol
"Location: Formerly Ohio"
love to see my friends winning :')
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 5:55 pm
by pyxxy
actually
I think it would be funny if I just don't read pages 2-9
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:22 am
Okay, y'all need to chill out. Wtf is this 8 pages BS?
*checks player list* *Sees Zenon* *Sees Tutuu* *Sees Robyn*
Oh...
*checks again* *Sees Falcon* *Sees Wilgy*
Okay should balance a little?
*checks post counts* *Wilgy highposting*
Uhh... damn.
<rand town post from sean
I vibe with this. I expect W sean to fake a solvy entry.
Below rand imo "<" as in i find it scummy
I see. I no longer vibe with this. I think W Sean spout some silly shenanigans and at least tries to take some tempo with entry.
Town Sean does this too though?
I think T Sean does sometimes and this and W Sean attempts to replicate it more often than not.
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 6:34 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:23 pm
one of zenon/rem could be mafia i suppose. they weren't really towny. im just trying to read tea leaves to push the game
Me and Rem are just too based and cute
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:07 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
robyn wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:39 pm
you know i'm a powerwolf and have no trouble making reads and getting my hands dirty, so i fail to see how my play here which is relaxing and sitting back compared to my normal play is actually alignment indicative. our last game was me trying to town lead and getting d1ed for it
also pyxxy and sean both have 2 posts each. cape hasn't really been towny. so i pose the question to you about how towny everyone has actually been assuming once pyxxy and sean post more they are suddenly towny
from what i've been reading there has been minimal content thus far. or i'm just rusty
I'll be honest I largely expect you to try to form a meta which allows fluidity between alignments but I'm town reading you because of small tone things cause I kinda feel like that's the only way to actually correctly read you
Rem wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 12:28 pm
You scared me, made me re check my pm for a second but no, i'm still town you silly wilgy
Oh, my bad. Ok you can be T again.
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:09 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:47 pm
im struggling already, i have a gut feeling i already made a wrong read. ill rewind back time. epi wilgy town, sean lean wolf. ignore other reads i made recently. never happened
And in terms of pyxxy/Seanzie, I will just hold off but I think Seanzie's entrance and exit are more likely to be NAI for him then pyxxy's spread apart 2 posts
Why maybe me?
Re: JJJ's Bad First Dates Mafia [Day 1]
Posted: Thu Jul 20, 2023 7:11 pm
by ☆Princess Abigail☆
Cape90 wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 3:50 pm
I might put Rem at a maybe town since I did see this wolf game where they came off as trying harder then their usual town game.
I've seen Rem try as both alignments tbh tbh
I also know Rem gets scum read easily even when she's just like obviously town.
Zenon wrote: ↑Wed Jul 19, 2023 10:28 pm
Name: Neon Zenon Abigail the 3rd
Age: 20 something
Gender: Grill
Location: Formerly Ohio
Hobbies: Whining on the intranet about being booooored
Looking for: Cute anime gifs
Dealbreakers: I'm emotional so like gotta deal with that lol
"Location: Formerly Ohio"
love to see my friends winning :')
Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 20, 2023 9:22 am
Okay, y'all need to chill out. Wtf is this 8 pages BS?
*checks player list* *Sees Zenon* *Sees Tutuu* *Sees Robyn*
Oh...
*checks again* *Sees Falcon* *Sees Wilgy*
Okay should balance a little?
*checks post counts* *Wilgy highposting*
Uhh... damn.
<rand town post from sean
I vibe with this. I expect W sean to fake a solvy entry.
Below rand imo "<" as in i find it scummy
I see. I no longer vibe with this. I think W Sean spout some silly shenanigans and at least tries to take some tempo with entry.
Town Sean does this too though?
I think T Sean does sometimes and this and W Sean attempts to replicate it more often than not.
Like TSean to me comes in with some predetermined push that is really just a reaction test and a bunch of exclamations about how they've solved the game.