Severance [Workday Four]

[Long Con]

Hey, I love that I am getting into a number of townlean lists. I highly doubt I deserve it, and maybe it's a bit suspicious to be doing that. Pretty sure that's why I said Delta and Scotty are bad.

Still getting a feel for things, I work all day and I went out yesterday evening, so... I've read everything, not much has caught my attention. I felt *intrigued* by the tutuu suspicions though. If none of my lame suspicions go through, I'll probably hop on over there.

[Jackofhearts2005]

If you take the first letter of each of my posts, it spells out the number of times I've slept with Jay's mum.

GIIWWWIETPHTLAAFTIILIZIIIIIRHMMD

Yeah I think ur bluffing there Jack

Roman numerals.

[Cape90]

Town:
Tutuu
Scotty


Townlean:
LC
Cape
Delta

Why are Tutuu and LC in the townpiles?

Tutuu, very towny energy and liked her solving thus far.

LC has kinda felt the same as how he was in the flipless game I played with him about a month ago.

Granted the LC read is way looser in comparison. Tutuu is my top townread.

Because I wasn't reading careful at all I was thinking LC = LimeCoke

smh I am being pranked with these names

[Cape90]

a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers

is this what you mean by a copypasta/meme opener? how do you feel now? I am still on page 2 fwiw

Akasuki gained stop.

Nipple man lost stop.

It's wild to think.

technically yes because neither Akasuki or Nipple are in the game

[Cape90]

The other thread probably has 10 pages of spammy nonsense by now. I would like to think that we are the more intelligent group. Perhaps Jay divided us by intelligence. We are the scientists, and the other group are the primates.

is there no function to react to posts on this forum?

usually there isn't

[Delta]

I say that as if there's time but there's not really, EOD is in a few hours right ?_?

2 and 1/2 hours i think considering when SOD was

AH thank you

I'll miss it so I'll try to get my thoughts & a vote down before I leave \o/

[Cape90]

If I were to design this game, I would make each pair share the same slot, role and alignment, and try to balance the game around town having double chop every day (most of the time) and mafia having double night kill every night (most of the time).

Jay was very insistent and hopeful on having a large amount of players, which would be needed to make something like this possible.

I guess this would make sense - I don't know how large nor how long games on here tend to be, but if the game never reached parity or whatever wincon and didn't have any additional kills, at 4 deaths per cycle the game would go for 7 cycles. assuming parity is reached sooner, perhaps 4-5 cycles? just trying to reason through how that many deaths per cycle would make sense, and I think it does (?)

I suspect there’s going to be some switcheroos tomorrow. If I had my druthers, I’d expect a good percentage (or all) of those that survive this cycle to completely switch threads, and go to the ‘leisure’ side, and a good chunk (or all) over there will come here and we’ll each read back what everyone has said thus far.

Some of us might stay behind (to work overtime or what have you) so we have some form of overlap so we’re not just forever playing a small ball within a game and never interacting with the other side in a live capacity.

Sounds trippy.

To be seen as to whether

i feel like it might scramble every day? IDK I am too lazy to read the first post LOL

[Delta]

Hey, I love that I am getting into a number of townlean lists. I highly doubt I deserve it, and maybe it's a bit suspicious to be doing that. Pretty sure that's why I said Delta and Scotty are bad.

Still getting a feel for things, I work all day and I went out yesterday evening, so... I've read everything, not much has caught my attention. I felt *intrigued* by the tutuu suspicions though. If none of my lame suspicions go through, I'll probably hop on over there.

?_?

Do you think there's a flaw in what I'm saying or are you just concerned in general

I'm still lost on why you sent me to read Guitar Mafia too ;_;

[Cape90]

Wilgy, yes. Delta, maybe.

You townlean someone with 2 posts?

[Lime Coke]

a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers

is this what you mean by a copypasta/meme opener? how do you feel now? I am still on page 2 fwiw

Akasuki gained stop.

Nipple man lost stop.

It's wild to think.

technically yes because neither Akasuki or Nipple are in the game

It was a copypasta from a turbo that ended like maybe half an hour before this game started?

https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ost7430796

Just as an explanation to it.

[Lime Coke]

Normally I begin with a GIF or a song but I couldn't think of one off the top of my head so went with copypasta.

[Cape90]

DM reentrance feels good & their reads roughly line up with my own which feels good \o/

Do definitely wonder about Nutella's placement & still curious about the Tutuu read since 'the post they voted me on' doesn't give all too much still ;_;

yeh I can’t tell if it’s a stylistic difference in approach, just getting their footing, or it’s just generic reads and player salad.

Either way, Darling comes off as a Darling and I don’t vote that on D1

Yeah i think I agree, combined with their unique reads, I don't think they are the day 1

[Cape90]

DM reentrance feels good & their reads roughly line up with my own which feels good \o/

Do definitely wonder about Nutella's placement & still curious about the Tutuu read since 'the post they voted me on' doesn't give all too much still ;_;

yeh I can’t tell if it’s a stylistic difference in approach, just getting their footing, or it’s just generic reads and player salad.

Either way, Darling comes off as a Darling and I don’t vote that on D1

that's 100% a full sentence

it's over for you I'm afraid

f

though Scotty didn't put a period

[Delta]

DM reentrance feels good & their reads roughly line up with my own which feels good \o/

Do definitely wonder about Nutella's placement & still curious about the Tutuu read since 'the post they voted me on' doesn't give all too much still ;_;

yeh I can’t tell if it’s a stylistic difference in approach, just getting their footing, or it’s just generic reads and player salad.

Either way, Darling comes off as a Darling and I don’t vote that on D1

that's 100% a full sentence

it's over for you I'm afraid

f

though Scotty didn't put a period

You can take his place if you feel like saving him >:)

[Cape90]

Quick little reshuffle of my thoughts \o/

Long Con
Scotty
Nutella
Ilario

Lime Coke
Jack
DM

Tutuu
Cape
Wilgy

Alexy
PSV
Porscha

Can explain these as always ^^ though I think my vague train of thoughts is visible in my ISO as is \o/

is your meta read on long con that strong?
why do you have ilario so high?

[Cape90]

DM reentrance feels good & their reads roughly line up with my own which feels good \o/

Do definitely wonder about Nutella's placement & still curious about the Tutuu read since 'the post they voted me on' doesn't give all too much still ;_;

yeh I can’t tell if it’s a stylistic difference in approach, just getting their footing, or it’s just generic reads and player salad.

Either way, Darling comes off as a Darling and I don’t vote that on D1

that's 100% a full sentence

it's over for you I'm afraid

f

though Scotty didn't put a period

You can take his place if you feel like saving him >:)

alright alright fine I

[Alexy]

a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers

is this what you mean by a copypasta/meme opener? how do you feel now? I am still on page 2 fwiw

Akasuki gained stop.

Nipple man lost stop.

It's wild to think.

technically yes because neither Akasuki or Nipple are in the game

oh, are Akasuki and Nipple players on here?

[Cape90]

I think that DarlingMonroe is hiding their identity or their original account name, which is fine, I'm not interested in prying into their life. I'm just mentioning this because I find it game relevant to bring up my concern that there's a world where they're mafia and get townread off of the assumption they're a beginner. They're definitely not a beginner, and them lying about it, if they are, isn't necessarily scummy, as in that world they have the objective to hide themselves regardless of alignment. But please be wary to not get blinded by them, I would find it helpful to perceive them as a non-newbie player and be careful.

I will say, it usually isn't a play that mafia make to just hide under an alt and play the newbie card to avoid suspicion. Like it sounds okay on paper, but it usually fails as a read in practicality, which is part of the reason why I am gonna just not day 1 them here

[Delta]

Quick little reshuffle of my thoughts \o/

Long Con
Scotty
Nutella
Ilario

Lime Coke
Jack
DM

Tutuu
Cape
Wilgy

Alexy
PSV
Porscha

Can explain these as always ^^ though I think my vague train of thoughts is visible in my ISO as is \o/

is your meta read on long con that strong?
why do you have ilario so high?

It's less a strong meta read and more a noticeable difference in a short period of time, I dont think he'd switch up how he plays as a wolf so quick? At least IMO. His game here resembles Guitar Mafia a lot more

Ilario is up there since I've liked his posting, feels genuine so far & there's moments like the shield on Porscha that feel like town genuinely trying to prevent maybe a LHF misvote?

[Cape90]

a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers

is this what you mean by a copypasta/meme opener? how do you feel now? I am still on page 2 fwiw

Akasuki gained stop.

Nipple man lost stop.

It's wild to think.

technically yes because neither Akasuki or Nipple are in the game

oh, are Akasuki and Nipple players on here?

no, they are more on Mafia Universe, another site, it was a turbo thing as Lime Coke later explained

[Delta]

Eh

Kinda feels bad considering their ISO feels short as is but there's a sense of kinda 'idrc' to their ISO that I dont really vibe with?

[VOTE: PSV] aubergine

& I think the current voters are pure so I dont mind this too much

I'm out for the rest of this workday, will catchup overnight assuming we dont just get flung out of this thread or something :wowee:

[Cape90]

I'll be honest, I've only gotten through the first 3 pages. Any reasoning I can give you will just sound like excuses. What's up with the PSV votes, if anyone cares to share?

It mostly seemed to stem from these posts

From my half-hearted skimming of the thread it looks like a lot of the content thus far is based on meta, which is useless to me. So I hereby declare all of that poopoo and shan't be bothering.

Do you have any reads in general that aren't requiring meta?

Aside from what I've stated, not really. I'm intrigued by nutella voting me.

I mean it comes off as awkward to me more then anything, but ppl have sussed this.

From my half-hearted skimming of the thread it looks like a lot of the content thus far is based on meta, which is useless to me. So I hereby declare all of that poopoo and shan't be bothering.

This kinda looked like they were just kinda looking for a way to I guess "not solve?" Not sure this is scummy either, but I have seen flack for this

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Though! I have played with tutuu before (uh... once? Twice?) and I was somewhat surprised to see her bringing up her low winrate. Felt sorta "ha ha, am no threat, how do you do fellow townies."

And besides this read on tutuu, potentialsheltervet really hasn't done a lot of solving this game, they have asked like a couple of questions though with 0 follow up so far

[Cape90]

Hey, I love that I am getting into a number of townlean lists. I highly doubt I deserve it, and maybe it's a bit suspicious to be doing that. Pretty sure that's why I said Delta and Scotty are bad.

Still getting a feel for things, I work all day and I went out yesterday evening, so... I've read everything, not much has caught my attention. I felt *intrigued* by the tutuu suspicions though. If none of my lame suspicions go through, I'll probably hop on over there.

this doesn't feel right to me

[Alexy]

a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers

is this what you mean by a copypasta/meme opener? how do you feel now? I am still on page 2 fwiw

Akasuki gained stop.

Nipple man lost stop.

It's wild to think.

technically yes because neither Akasuki or Nipple are in the game

oh, are Akasuki and Nipple players on here?

no, they are more on Mafia Universe, another site, it was a turbo thing as Lime Coke later explained

my bad, probably didn't read that far

[Alexy]

I'll be honest, I've only gotten through the first 3 pages. Any reasoning I can give you will just sound like excuses. What's up with the PSV votes, if anyone cares to share?

It mostly seemed to stem from these posts

From my half-hearted skimming of the thread it looks like a lot of the content thus far is based on meta, which is useless to me. So I hereby declare all of that poopoo and shan't be bothering.

Do you have any reads in general that aren't requiring meta?

Aside from what I've stated, not really. I'm intrigued by nutella voting me.

I mean it comes off as awkward to me more then anything, but ppl have sussed this.

From my half-hearted skimming of the thread it looks like a lot of the content thus far is based on meta, which is useless to me. So I hereby declare all of that poopoo and shan't be bothering.

This kinda looked like they were just kinda looking for a way to I guess "not solve?" Not sure this is scummy either, but I have seen flack for this

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Though! I have played with tutuu before (uh... once? Twice?) and I was somewhat surprised to see her bringing up her low winrate. Felt sorta "ha ha, am no threat, how do you do fellow townies."

And besides this read on tutuu, potentialsheltervet really hasn't done a lot of solving this game, they have asked like a couple of questions though with 0 follow up so far

thank you!

[nutella]

agree with illario that cape's tone has been off. but sometimes the way he gives reads d1 feels weird idk. something something give him a day

Ilario hasn't even directly said my tone has been off.
He said he didn't like my opening and thought I was redirecting sus onto him.

im thinking of the post where he says everything you say sounds ridiculous

not sure that's what that meant in context of ilario's logs, but sure

what....do you mean

potentialsheltervet is playing oddly and that's the extent of my read there

bruh

this is essentially what i said about tutuu except replace odd with likeable

yeah maybe im just confbiased but everything cape says feels ridiculous to me

what do you think this meant

he thinks youre being inconsistent and saying things that dont track with everyone elses perspective which is also how i feel

[nutella]

i guess that's different from tone but the "ridiculous" comment kind of folds tone into the weirdness of your content

idk how to explain it but i feel like your posts keep making me go wha huh

[Cape90]

TOWN:

JOH2005
nutella
Scotty?

TOWNLEAN:

Delta
tutuu
Lime Coke
DarlingMonroe

NULL:

Porscha
Long Con

MAFIALEAN:

ilario
Alexy
potentialsheltervet

I don't really have strong reads right now, my towns are stronger then my mafia reads.

[nutella]

not a bad list

curious about the alexy placement, i think her recent attempts to get engaged have come across okay but still very surface level for sure

[nutella]

idk cape my read on you is like one of those tiktoks where every time the square hits the edge of the screen it doubles and eventually theres a zillion squares of different colors bouncing around in every direction

[tutuu]

idk cape my read on you is like one of those tiktoks where every time the square hits the edge of the screen it doubles and eventually theres a zillion squares of different colors bouncing around in every direction

I think you will enjoy playing with May from FoL. She sees color and taste in reads and posts. Last I remembered someone's post was blue and cheesy to her.

[tutuu]

Oh wait you know her. I forgot

[tutuu]

My memory has been on the decline ever since I met @Porscha.

[nutella]

Mmm blue cheese

[Cape90]

agree with illario that cape's tone has been off. but sometimes the way he gives reads d1 feels weird idk. something something give him a day

Ilario hasn't even directly said my tone has been off.
He said he didn't like my opening and thought I was redirecting sus onto him.

im thinking of the post where he says everything you say sounds ridiculous

not sure that's what that meant in context of ilario's logs, but sure

what....do you mean

potentialsheltervet is playing oddly and that's the extent of my read there

bruh

this is essentially what i said about tutuu except replace odd with likeable

yeah maybe im just confbiased but everything cape says feels ridiculous to me

what do you think this meant

he thinks youre being inconsistent and saying things that dont track with everyone elses perspective which is also how i feel

again you're putting words in ilario's mouth. Inconsistency was literally never part of ilario's argument. He also never talked about other people's perspectives either, besides, I don't know what the heck that would even mean considering there have been a lot of "unpopular" viewpoints floating around this game

also reminder

Has anybody seen Scotty mafia? And Cape mafia? And Jack mafia? I've seen none of those. Any chance they have tells that they haven't been able to overcome?

ive seen cape scum, he has a few tells ive been waiting to see if he hits before i go full send on him lol

between this and his vote on me, I haven't even said A WORD.

But like to answer your question cuz im getting sidetracked, I mean I guess, but he hasn't pointed that out directly to me, I have given a summary of ilario's arguments many times, it hasn't changed. I don't super understand "...everything cape says feels ridiculous to me" vs I scumread everything cape is saying, which I don't think exactly correlates to "he thinks youre being inconsistent and saying things that dont track with everyone elses perspective...". Like I see ur interpretation though

[Lime Coke]

idk cape my read on you is like one of those tiktoks where every time the square hits the edge of the screen it doubles and eventually theres a zillion squares of different colors bouncing around in every direction

I think you will enjoy playing with May from FoL. She sees color and taste in reads and posts. Last I remembered someone's post was blue and cheesy to her.

She can taste colors.

She can feel sounds.

Is there a better mafia player than JaggedJimmyJay?

[Jackofhearts2005]

LC’s posts taste like onions by themselves.

Spoiler: show

idk

[Cape90]

not a bad list

curious about the alexy placement, i think her recent attempts to get engaged have come across okay but still very surface level for sure

the tutuu suspicion that Alexy has are things that have been pointed out before by other people

I'll be honest, I've only gotten through the first 3 pages. Any reasoning I can give you will just sound like excuses. What's up with the PSV votes, if anyone cares to share?

this looks odd if PSV is town tbh, like it kinda reads as "I want to vote PSV, but I dunno why the town are voting PSV" yknow?

Other then that there is mech talk which is ~fine

If I were to design this game, I would make each pair share the same slot, role and alignment, and try to balance the game around town having double chop every day (most of the time) and mafia having double night kill every night (most of the time).

Jay was very insistent and hopeful on having a large amount of players, which would be needed to make something like this possible.

I guess this would make sense - I don't know how large nor how long games on here tend to be, but if the game never reached parity or whatever wincon and didn't have any additional kills, at 4 deaths per cycle the game would go for 7 cycles. assuming parity is reached sooner, perhaps 4-5 cycles? just trying to reason through how that many deaths per cycle would make sense, and I think it does (?)

And them looking into Lime Coke's opening which TBF, I think is the towniest thing they have done so far

a little pinged by lime cokes opening, i think he leans into copypasta and meme openers more as wolf. still early though and if hes town im sure ill find him at some point this game

didnt like capes opener either but cant really pinpoint why other than it felt a little awkward to me

delta leaning town on everyone might be slightly towny, wolves tend to be slightly more pressured to find something to scumread or shade in their openers

is this what you mean by a copypasta/meme opener? how do you feel now? I am still on page 2 fwiw

Akasuki gained stop.

Nipple man lost stop.

It's wild to think.

[potentialsheltervet]

Ope
Chef PSV is in danger of being Chopped!

[nutella]

this thread is simultaneously all over the place and going nowhere at all it's pretty funny

[Cape90]

Gonna get ready to go bowling tonight, will miss the tail end of EOD unfortunately

[nutella]

this looks odd if PSV is town tbh, like it kinda reads as "I want to vote PSV, but I dunno why the town are voting PSV" yknow?

Hmm I can see this bit maybe


Re ilario post, sure I'd like to wait for him to talk more about it I have just been bewildered by some of your posts

And then some are good I guess

[potentialsheltervet]

I'm trying out a new kind of read list. I think this diagram is going to help me understand every connection between the players and eventually solve the game. Prepare for genius

Spoiler: show

.....eventually

I townread Nutella but I'm super on board with this and would probably pretend to townread Nutella if she was a wagon just to see where this bit goes.

Can you rephrase?

[potentialsheltervet]

Hello
I don't think I've played with... most of you before.

sup, im guessing you know alexy they seem to be from sdn? what can you tell us about them

Yeah, we haven't played together all that much. I think only a couple games. She took a break when I was at my most active. And the last game we played together where she was scum was a pretty non-traditional setup so... hard to say?

[potentialsheltervet]

I think that DarlingMonroe is hiding their identity or their original account name, which is fine, I'm not interested in prying into their life. I'm just mentioning this because I find it game relevant to bring up my concern that there's a world where they're mafia and get townread off of the assumption they're a beginner. They're definitely not a beginner, and them lying about it, if they are, isn't necessarily scummy, as in that world they have the objective to hide themselves regardless of alignment. But please be wary to not get blinded by them, I would find it helpful to perceive them as a non-newbie player and be careful.

...strange.
I don't think anyone was acting under the assumption that they're a beginner after seeing their first few posts.

[potentialsheltervet]

What's up with the PSV votes, if anyone cares to share?

she basically refuses to engage in the game or give reads and had a sort of awkward but still evasive reaction to being pressured on it

Yeah I'm genuinely not trying to avoid engaging in the game. I'm just here when I'm here and not here when I'm not here, and if I don't have thoughts then I don't have thoughts. That's all there is to it.

[potentialsheltervet]

Townlist: Nutella, Delta, Monroe, Lime
Townleanlist: Tutuu, Wilgy, Cape
Idklist: Alexy, Illario, Porscha
Scumleanlist: LC, PSV

That's where I'm at

Why do you feel better about Cape than ilario?

[potentialsheltervet]

agree with illario that cape's tone has been off. but sometimes the way he gives reads d1 feels weird idk. something something give him a day

Ilario hasn't even directly said my tone has been off.
He said he didn't like my opening and thought I was redirecting sus onto him.

Seems like you're splitting hairs there.

what do you mean by that?

I mean that it seems like a pretty insignificant difference for you to point out.

[potentialsheltervet]

I don't like tutuu's ~tone~ in that it feels incredibly different from the (again, n=1) game that I played with her wherein she stormed in, declared herself super towny, and did a bunch of solving. Granted she was subbing in there so different situation but meh. The humility here is strange.

[potentialsheltervet]

@Alexy Usually on this site you put [vota] insertplayername [/unvota]
But say vote instead of vota. Post that in the thread when vote for someone in the poll so it's obvious when you make or change a vote. You're on tutuu rn?