The Syndicate

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:08 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:00 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:25 pm Me trying to figure out who "LA" is in the post about robyn:
Sorry--Nutella. LA used to be her nickname based on prior user name. LA is her name in my brain.

This makes more sense.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:09 pm**

Actually, I feel like I shoulda known this. Feels like a distant memory going "heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey" before blipping out of existence again.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:14 pm**

Also, as it is nearly mafia dawn, I feel safe in posting that I very much suspect LC. Sorry friend, but I think you're bad. I'll do a linki post later or tomorrow with more substantial reasons. But it's based mostly on read. He will almost certainly be my vote.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:15 pm**

And yes, I realize if I'm right on long con, I may have been wrong on Robyn. but I'm not sure he wouldn't have voted for a teammate based on strategy.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:15 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:10 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:44 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:43 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:15 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:38 am okay great sheep is also a wolf
I highly disagree
I don't see how this is a town slot. Please elaborate.
Right so what I did was I read the post and went. Why does a wolf post this? And I decided uh they don't?

Than I thought what about town? And I thought oh they do

So than I told you your read is wrong
I suppose we just disagree then.

I really felt like a wolfy pop in where the wolf doesn't know where they should push. They know they should, but not how.

1st post is like "I'm definitely here and will do things, but not really and I'll absolve myself of responsibility in the same post" then the posts after are on you and Robyn who's dead, then back to me, without saying anything other than "let's discredit some discussion."

Is that wolfy though? Cause I don't think it is

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:17 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:13 pm I agree with everyone that Wilgy feels weird.

By which Wilgy feels weird that everyone is like "Wilgy feels weird" and just drops it at that.

I explained my read

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:19 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:17 pm Great. 1 townie in the towncore. Please submit your applications

I submit that I'm town

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:31 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:16 am I'm feeling wilgy + Porscha is a distinct possibility but I still town read them more than I tinfoil them so meh

You mean this? This was the only mention that I noticed that had a process behind a read.

I also don't normally think of associative reads as weird?

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:38 pm**

☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:15 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 2:10 pm
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:44 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:43 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 3:15 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 1:38 am okay great sheep is also a wolf
I highly disagree
I don't see how this is a town slot. Please elaborate.
Right so what I did was I read the post and went. Why does a wolf post this? And I decided uh they don't?

Than I thought what about town? And I thought oh they do

So than I told you your read is wrong
I suppose we just disagree then.

I really felt like a wolfy pop in where the wolf doesn't know where they should push. They know they should, but not how.

1st post is like "I'm definitely here and will do things, but not really and I'll absolve myself of responsibility in the same post" then the posts after are on you and Robyn who's dead, then back to me, without saying anything other than "let's discredit some discussion."
Is that wolfy though? Cause I don't think it is

Aye, I tend to think it is. Wolves keem themselves free if possible and when they lock down it's normally strategic in nature.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:56 pm**

Also I was forced to take a break from ISOs. (Thanks kids)

PoE before EoN remains TSP, Sheep, LC, SPF, and Pyx. This should theoretically become smaller as we advance.

The player that I'm not as confident in my tr on is Nut. They can be added to the PoE if the gamestate calls for it.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:23 pm**

robyn was booed off the stage.

Spoiler: show

The judges have determined that ☆Princess Abigail☆ is ineligible due to untied shoes (which violates the venue's insurance policy, you know).

Spoiler: show

It is now Day 2. Let's do it again.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:34 pm**

oh
rip

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:36 pm**

anyways,

[VOTE: Pyx] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:36 pm**

Oh, damn. I can't vote Pyx.

Shucks.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:38 pm**

huh @pyxxy is that your prize?

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:39 pm**

ok well [VOTE: long con] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:44 pm**

Note: If you don't have a track on deck, now is the time to get one in via PM to me. If you already sent one and you send in another, I will use the most recent piece of music I have received from you.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:09 pm**

wait people were posting things at night?

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:16 pm**

I guess to answer robyn's "oh you tr me?"

I didn't really at the time tbh. Like
1. It was clear that you weren't reading/haven't read up on things
2. You were saying things that... felt like you, if that makes any sense. Like "there isn’t an actual reason for it, i just didn’t think i’d be taking this much heat this early and i’m not a shrugyeet. what i am is a game losing misyeet" is a very you thing to say

But anyways this was kinda a pointless post since u kinda died. I will avenge you!

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:17 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 5:45 pm I would have preferred long con in over robyn tbh

Think I agree even though that would be the 2 most boring options facing off against each other

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:20 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:23 pm Like, further, there's a thing we PROBABLY should've discussed before EoD and it's how to handle the battle and who gets bonuses.

Like, is it better to send someone who we think Is town and someone who we think is wolf and hope that the townie player has a better musical taste?

Right, the bonus thing exists doesn't it?

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:20 pm**

RIP Robyn and Abigail.

Sorry I after the fact suspected you, Robyn!!! I clearly haven't learned how to read you, yet.

[VOTE: LC] aubergine

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:21 pm**

Also I think both subs are usually anonymous, otherwise it becomes extremely angleshooty and... yeah.........

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:22 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:26 pm Also imagine if we wagoned someone who hadn't posted just to see if they had submitted a song and therefore acknowledge the game exists and is intentionally not posting

that sounds like an absolutely anti town idea. genius!

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:24 pm**

And, I have a low level migraine, I'm tired and cranky, and I have copious amount of sushi on its way to me. I may or may not be on much tonight. I should be around tomorrow.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:25 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:38 pm huh @pyxxy is that your prize?

yes

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:26 pm**

two apologies are in order

1) sorry for missing EOD, I got pulled into a work thing

2) sorry for linking the lyrics version of my song, absolute amateur mistake and embarrassing

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:28 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 7:59 pm Wilgy, nutella, and a few others are on the scumreads for not sticking to their supposed guns.

what does "not sticking to their supposed guns" mean?

a few others is also really vague like what?

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:31 pm**

Still waiting on sushi.

I think sticking to their guns was about them flip flopping and not voting for him if they suspected him. First off, civvies are way more likely to flip flop in general. And, my memory of LA (nut)'s play is that she in particular is more likely to be, or at least seem, unsure as a civ.

Adding: LC just simply isn't this antagonistic as a civ.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:32 pm**

Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:15 am
Cape90 wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 1:54 pm
Sheep wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 12:28 pm
Porscha wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 5:43 am
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:57 pm I fear for my life choosing songs tbh. gonna have to like, pick some of the most popular ones of the musicians I like to appeal to the masses here I think lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:04 pm or maybe I go independent. I dunno
Is the simple action of talking about this, providing hint at what you pick? This is the real speculation. (porscha w btw)
no it is showcasing my indecision (wilgy w btw)
i like this post (there's a thunderdome between wilgy & porscha now btw)
are you trying to force a thunderdome...
that was not serious mostly bc i was bored bc nothing was happening
i don't like this post from cape which means he's in town meta (for having a odd read on me specifically)

I don't think you have played with w!me

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:34 pm**

Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:31 am ok i have no motivation to make reads besides a "wilgy feels weird both in general and from what i remember of playstyle but idk it's probably a thing, porscha's towny but i also have no confidence in that, long con pings is probably just a player thing"
but based on page 3 looks like rest of pl doesn't have a lot of interest in solving either so i can absolve myself of guilt to some extent

Sheep wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:33 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:21 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:31 am
☆Princess Abigail☆ wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 3:19 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 1:22 am I voted robyn btw
I actually think robyn is town lol
ew how? lol
How do I put this...uh...vibes ig I just don't think this is how robyn enters thread as wolf here am I off base maybe cause its a light read and one I'm hardly committed to
i thought robyn was towny too though this explanation is slightly different
(oops i'm back)

I think both of these posts are kinda towny

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:39 pm**

so what, we're working with

TonyStarkPrime
LoRab
Porscha
nutella
Sheep
Cape90
Long Con
staypositivefriend
falcon45ca
DrWilgy

+ me

TSP is milo problem. I could see him attempting to avoid meta via silence after getting caught quick in Severance. Occam's says he's just afk.
LoRab was summoned. skimmed game from 2015. seems to match fine. civvie
Porscha has whim and not accepting other people's worlds blindly. civvie
Nutella still making me feel odd
Sheep; sucks that Robyn died before explaining the Sheep obv details. will tunnel
Cape; I can't read Cape
Long Con; need to re-read
SPF; unsure
falcon can be town
Wilgy has an agenda and that makes me very suspicious

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Robyn voters were Long Con, nutella
pyxxy voters were robyn (town), DrWilgy, Cape90, ☆Princess Abigail☆ (town w/ untied shoes)

otoh maybe I just call Wilgy and Cape town and go from there

at this time my focus is on Nutella Sheep Cape LC

ttyl

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:39 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:13 pm
Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:53 pm Good thoughts, LoRab! Welcome to the game.

What kind of strategy were you thinking? Someone suggested putting up one (town) player to try and boost their power, and one (wolf) player to eliminate... but that plan has an obvious downside, were we to pick the wrong song. Who suggested that? Suspicious.
I'm not sure. But I think it should be discussed. I don't remember who suggested that plan...but I'm not sure putting it out there to be discussed is a bad thing. I think we should all have a conversation about how to decide who to put up. I'm trying to think through a strategy that the baddies couldn't manipulate to their advantage.

I also don't remember who said that they'd probably be weird (not their word but I can't remember the word they used) and try to figure out who chose each video. I don't think that's weird at all. I mean, really--it's kind of how the game is set up. That's why we can't hint at our songs...and I can't see a strategy that doesn't involve figuring out whose music is whose once the battle begins.

Also adding, I would have likely voted for Robyn on Day 1--her reaction to being suspected, especially towards LA, was harsh--in a cornered animal kind of way. Also, she didn't seem happy in the game--in the way that many in this wave of players seem to not like being mafia (also, what's up with that?) My not being that way was one of the ways she suspected me in Ted Lasso. And her refusal to answer any suspicion really sat wrong with me. No idea where her allegiance is (or was), but my gut says not civvie.

With the current knowledge of robyn's flip, tempted to call this towny

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:40 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:49 pm sheep's posts are ~weird but in a way that seems more like he's on his own?

what does this even mean though?

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:48 pm**

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:39 pm so what, we're working with

TonyStarkPrime
LoRab
Porscha
nutella
Sheep
Cape90
Long Con
staypositivefriend
falcon45ca
DrWilgy

+ me

TSP is milo problem. I could see him attempting to avoid meta via silence after getting caught quick in Severance. Occam's says he's just afk.
LoRab was summoned. skimmed game from 2015. seems to match fine. civvie
Porscha has whim and not accepting other people's worlds blindly. civvie
Nutella still making me feel odd
Sheep; sucks that Robyn died before explaining the Sheep obv details. will tunnel
Cape; I can't read Cape
Long Con; need to re-read
SPF; unsure
falcon can be town
Wilgy has an agenda and that makes me very suspicious

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Robyn voters were Long Con, nutella
pyxxy voters were robyn (town), DrWilgy, Cape90, ☆Princess Abigail☆ (town w/ untied shoes)

otoh maybe I just call Wilgy and Cape town and go from there

at this time my focus is on Nutella Sheep Cape LC

ttyl

You know you literally caught me as wolf in this game my guy.
https://www.mafiauniverse.com/forums/th ... ue-S2-M2G3

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:09 pm**

Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:40 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:49 pm sheep's posts are ~weird but in a way that seems more like he's on his own?
what does this even mean though?

it's a nebulous town lean

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:33 pm**

I dont believe pyxxy's bonus for winning was killing abi

It was wolves (crooked poser judges) who get to off someone every night along with the vote. So abi was the wolf night kill

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:33 pm**

Unless pyxxy had like a redirect onto abi and assumed his ability played into it

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:36 pm**

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:33 pm I dont believe pyxxy's bonus for winning was killing abi

It was wolves (crooked poser judges) who get to off someone every night along with the vote. So abi was the wolf night kill

No one said that. pyxxy not being on the poll was the reward.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:11 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 7:09 pm
Cape90 wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 6:40 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 12:49 pm sheep's posts are ~weird but in a way that seems more like he's on his own?
what does this even mean though?
it's a nebulous town lean

I meant the whole "he's on his own" part

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:14 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:36 pm anyways,

[VOTE: Pyx] aubergine

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:36 pm Oh, damn. I can't vote Pyx.

Shucks.

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 5:38 pm huh @pyxxy is that your prize?

Porscha, it has to do with the fact pyxxy has immunity today

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:39 pm**

LoRab wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 4:14 pm Also, as it is nearly mafia dawn, I feel safe in posting that I very much suspect LC. Sorry friend, but I think you're bad. I'll do a linki post later or tomorrow with more substantial reasons. But it's based mostly on read. He will almost certainly be my vote.

Get in line, sucka.

[VOTE: nutella] aubergine <-- this is the vote y'all should have been making when you voted me.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:39 pm**

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:23 pm
nutella wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:21 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:13 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 2:42 am
Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 8:57 pm I fear for my life choosing songs tbh. gonna have to like, pick some of the most popular ones of the musicians I like to appeal to the masses here I think lol

Porscha wrote: ↑Tue Jan 02, 2024 9:04 pm or maybe I go independent. I dunno
Is the simple action of talking about this, providing hint at what you pick? This is the real speculation. (porscha w btw)
@Porscha We can call this a read, and it's content based.

It's more towny than not, IMO
I'm not sure I follow the logic of it though
I could be wrong, but the very nature of porscha hinting at what type of song type she may sub shows that porscha is overly concerned w/ being voted

falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:58 pm
falcon45ca wrote: ↑Wed Jan 03, 2024 3:27 pm At least there's actual content and interaction with Wilgy's read on porscha, whether you agree or no.

He had nothing w/ his other post w/ town reads, yet you quoted those and said you TR him based off having those reads

@DrWilgy Cuz of this.

Prior to this they put pressure on Sheep, and followed that up with a vote for SPF to 'wake them up'

But they didn't tag SPF, so how is it supposed to wake anybody up?

alright im reading through the thread for real this time and falcon is my strongest townread so far. i quite like the way that he went about poking at people early in the thread and his solving felt the most authentic to me out of all the ppl who were posting early on

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:44 pm**

SPF feels towny.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:45 pm**

kinda think that porscha's convicftion about robyn being mafia on page 4 was coming from a real place

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:47 pm**

staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:45 pm kinda think that porscha's convicftion about robyn being mafia on page 4 was coming from a real place

What makes you think that? I think Porscha's town as well.

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:57 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:47 pm
staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:45 pm kinda think that porscha's convicftion about robyn being mafia on page 4 was coming from a real place
What makes you think that? I think Porscha's town as well.

porscha's sentiment that she had secret reasons to scumread robyn that she didn't feel like posting because she knew they would be ignored and invalidated felt like a real perspective to me - i think that wolves usually like their pushes to come off as more clean and logical, and so her push being based on something secret and her digging her heels in when she got pressured made it feel like a real pov

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:57 pm**

also i agree that im towny too :3

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 9:59 pm**

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:03 am Robyn, Porscha, Abi, Falc all town.

Pretty solid so far. (These are now real reads).

if drwilgy is mafia it means he was townsiding p hard with his d1 reads, which is proly a good sign for him

Posted: **Fri Jan 05, 2024 10:00 pm**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Jan 04, 2024 11:56 am [VOTE: robyn] aubergine for that interaction with porscha lol

lc wolf if theyre not though maybe

dont love the timing of this vote from nut

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