The Syndicate

Mongoose wrote:@MP - And then after all that, he voted for Bullz.

Curious and curiouser.

That's what I don't understand. All of his suspicions are unsubstantiated, all over the map, and constantly shifting.

It's so far from the civvie MR I saw in Meat Boy that I think he is baddie, but I'm still a little afraid of the result. I do think he's the best person for my vote today though, no doubt.

MovingPictures07 wrote: Even if you felt you adequately debunked all of the points I brought against you, it was Day 1, and you have failed to consider I could just be a wrong civvie. Correct?

I guess this was the wrong game to change up my approach.

Several players generally post like I've been doing on day 1.

I'd say changing my opinion on you and voting Bullz instead is along the lines of "considering you're a wrong civvie".

In your own words, "It was day 1". What else was I supposed to do?

Linki: I was a sub in a game you hosted on a site I'v never played on before, MP! How are these 2 situations similar in any way? Were you hoping that if I sat back and played passively, the civs would lose in this game too?

It's not too late. I'd urge you all to change your votes.

Ok going to switch to MR instead of MP as it seems others have more to go on than I did with MP. My vote should tip the scales to nearly guaranteeing his linch.

Went with MR.

I'm a little nervous about the unanimity of this vote.

boo wrote:

FZ. wrote:

Elohcin wrote:

FZ. wrote:
No one died? That's good.
Do the stories reveal what really happened or are they for flavor?

It depends on the game and the host. They are usually meaningful when Epi is the host. Looks like there was an attempted kill on llama. I suppose the killer was blocked.

Glad you're still around Llama, even if you think Mongoose is bad for a silly reason

Or he's a baddie immune to night kills. I forgot if there's a role like that. Though I'm leaning to trusting him at the moment. But there could be other reasons.

None of the 6 non-secret baddie roles can survive a NK. Could be the case for the DA or Elmo though, but we don't really know for that.

I thought you were new? It doesn't strike me as apparent that a baddie would have NK immunity, and it isn't the case in this game, so where did you pick that up? I'm pretty solidly in the expecting a new player to have BTSC camp, and with 8 people in the game having BTSC and only 2 being civs, that doesn't exactly make me feel warm and fuzzy about you.

I'm new here. Played mafia before.

thellama73 wrote:I'm a little nervous about the unanimity of this vote.

As you should be.

I've done it before and was terribly wrong, but I'll do it again. Tell you all, that I think you're wrong. This lynch seems way too easy.To me it looks like he's making some stupid mistakes are making him look suspicious and people are using it to make him look even worse.

Maybe I'm just not familiar with how MR plays, but this seems really wrong to me.

Are we allowed to say anything in this game about things that happen at night? Not what I did, but what happened to me?

Damn, is the day over?

so as to avoid being penalized for not voting, i voted for A Person.

By the number of votes he got, maybe you're not wrong, and his team bandwagoned on the lynch to look better. But I have to admit, I don't see it. And yeah, I voted for Lizzie again...

You people are going to feel awfully foolish for not listening to me about Mongoose.

I know it's shitty of me, but I'm just not in a mafia mood and I can't be bothered to read at all right now. I'm sorry. It's dickish, I know.

vote self

FZ. wrote:I've done it before and was terribly wrong, but I'll do it again. Tell you all, that I think you're wrong. This lynch seems way too easy.To me it looks like he's making some stupid mistakes are making him look suspicious and people are using it to make him look even worse.

I always play stupid, but I meant every word I said and action I took.

I'm ok with this. It'll give everyone plenty to discuss and you guys won't lose a more powerful civ/player.

Mister Rearranger wrote:I'm ok with this. It'll give everyone plenty to discuss and you guys won't lose a more powerful civ/player.

Do you guys do the "let's make them feel bad before they find out they were right about me" or is this genuine
And I liked your stupid game

I guess I'm back.

Mister Rearranger wrote: I will vote for Bullz instead then.

*Votes Bullzeye*

I love how your only defense is a NO U. Really makes me confident I made the right choice. Kinda shocked at how the votes piled up on you but you really haven't helped yourself.

thellama73 wrote:You people are going to feel awfully foolish for not listening to me about Mongoose.

I'm sure we'll be able to lynch her next if you're right about her.

FZ. wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:I'm ok with this. It'll give everyone plenty to discuss and you guys won't lose a more powerful civ/player.

Do you guys do the "let's make them feel bad before they find out they were right about me" or is this genuine
And I liked your stupid game

It's my favourite tactic as a doomed baddie. That and making really vague threats.

FZ. wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:I'm ok with this. It'll give everyone plenty to discuss and you guys won't lose a more powerful civ/player.

Do you guys do the "let's make them feel bad before they find out they were right about me" or is this genuine
And I liked your stupid game

When I am about to be lynched as a baddie, I never concede any ground and proclaim my innocence to the bitter end, so there's really no telling. I guess we will find out soon.

Bullzeye wrote:I guess I'm back.

Mister Rearranger wrote: I will vote for Bullz instead then.

*Votes Bullzeye*

I love how your only defense is a NO U. Really makes me confident I made the right choice. Kinda shocked at how the votes piled up on you but you really haven't helped yourself.

thellama73 wrote:You people are going to feel awfully foolish for not listening to me about Mongoose.

I'm sure we'll be able to lynch her next if you're right about her.

FZ. wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:I'm ok with this. It'll give everyone plenty to discuss and you guys won't lose a more powerful civ/player.

Do you guys do the "let's make them feel bad before they find out they were right about me" or is this genuine
And I liked your stupid game

Do you consider most of the players here a little intelligent? That's a rhetorical question But people know not to use No U's. They know they need to give reasons to their votes and all that, right? So if a person is a baddie, would he not go out of his way to satisfy the minimum required of him to appear semi civ? Wouldn't you expect MR to do that as well?

It's my favorite tactic as a doomed baddie. That and making really vague threats.

I do it too. The least they'll get for lynching me is feeling really scared that they're wrong

FZ. wrote: Do you consider most of the players here a little intelligent? That's a rhetorical question But people know not to use No U's. They know they need to give reasons to their votes and all that, right? So if a person is a baddie, would he not go out of his way to satisfy the minimum required of him to appear semi civ? Wouldn't you expect MR to do that as well?

Yeah, sure I do. Everyone knows NO U'ing isn't a good idea but can you see any reason MR gave for voting for me that doesn't make it look like retaliation for my vote? He's given no reason as to why he 'thinks I'm bad' and literally seems to have voted for me because I voted for him.

Bullzeye wrote:

FZ. wrote: Do you consider most of the players here a little intelligent? That's a rhetorical question But people know not to use No U's. They know they need to give reasons to their votes and all that, right? So if a person is a baddie, would he not go out of his way to satisfy the minimum required of him to appear semi civ? Wouldn't you expect MR to do that as well?

Yeah, sure I do. Everyone knows NO U'ing isn't a good idea but can you see any reason MR gave for voting for me that doesn't make it look like retaliation for my vote? He's given no reason as to why he 'thinks I'm bad' and literally seems to have voted for me because I voted for him.

You weren't the only, or even the first who voted for me. You were also on my sh*tlist from day 1, go back and check it out.

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

FZ. wrote: Do you consider most of the players here a little intelligent? That's a rhetorical question But people know not to use No U's. They know they need to give reasons to their votes and all that, right? So if a person is a baddie, would he not go out of his way to satisfy the minimum required of him to appear semi civ? Wouldn't you expect MR to do that as well?

Yeah, sure I do. Everyone knows NO U'ing isn't a good idea but can you see any reason MR gave for voting for me that doesn't make it look like retaliation for my vote? He's given no reason as to why he 'thinks I'm bad' and literally seems to have voted for me because I voted for him.

You weren't the only, or even the first who voted for me. You were also on my sh*tlist from day 1, go back and check it out.

I never said either of those things were the case, and I know you said you had 'vibes' about me on day one. Is that why you voted for me? Did my vote for you - based on my interpretation of the votes from the last lynch - really have nothing at all to do with it?

Bullzeye wrote:

Mister Rearranger wrote:

Bullzeye wrote:

FZ. wrote: Do you consider most of the players here a little intelligent? That's a rhetorical question But people know not to use No U's. They know they need to give reasons to their votes and all that, right? So if a person is a baddie, would he not go out of his way to satisfy the minimum required of him to appear semi civ? Wouldn't you expect MR to do that as well?

Yeah, sure I do. Everyone knows NO U'ing isn't a good idea but can you see any reason MR gave for voting for me that doesn't make it look like retaliation for my vote? He's given no reason as to why he 'thinks I'm bad' and literally seems to have voted for me because I voted for him.

You weren't the only, or even the first who voted for me. You were also on my sh*tlist from day 1, go back and check it out.

I never said either of those things were the case, and I know you said you had 'vibes' about me on day one. Is that why you voted for me? Did my vote for you - based on my interpretation of the votes from the last lynch - really have nothing at all to do with it?

I simply moved down my sh*tlist upon reading SVS's reply. Your vote wasn't a deciding factor in my vote, but it did not sway my opinion of you either.

Well MR, surely you can see how you voting for me less than 15 minutes after I vote you and not offering very much in the way of a reason looks pretty much like a NO U?

Is the day still on? My poll says 6:41 pm. It's 40 minutes from now.
Can people change their votes?

I guess not...
I'm off.

Well I hope MR is bad. If not, this lynch is so unanimous it might not offer us much info :/.

Just a heads up, I will be in Rome from tomorrow until Sunday and likely won't participate very much. I'll try to keep abreast about what's happening and to vote, but I won't be super active outside of that. If I'm still alive on Sunday I'll be back in more or less full force then.

I'm really sorry Rob! I said I wouldn't miss another vote and sure enough, I miss the first 2 votes in the game. I was visiting with my grandparents today, got back, and completely forgot about what time the lynch ended. I probably would have gone with MR though.

Who will be lynched?

Poll ended at Wed Dec 18, 2013 5:41 pm

A Person
1
A Person (13)
7%

birdwithteeth11
0
No votes

boo
0
No votes

Bullzeye
1
Mister Rearranger (6)
7%

Dom
0
No votes

Elohcin
0
No votes

FZ.
0
No votes

johns2jj
0
No votes

Lizzy
1
FZ. (14)
7%

Mister Rearranger
9
Russtifinko (3), Bullzeye (4), Elohcin (5), Mongoose (7), boo (8), MovingPictures07 (9), Lizzy (10), johns2jj (11), S~V~S (12)
60%

Mongoose
1
thellama73 (2)
7%

MovingPictures07
0
No votes

MrThomas
0
No votes

Nevinera
0
No votes

reywaS
1
reywaS (15)
7%

Russtifikno
0
No votes

S~V~S
0
No votes

thellama73
0
No votes

Vompatti
0
No votes

Vern Schillinger (The Host, the Mod, the Dead)
1
Epignosis (1)
7%


Total votes : 15

Someone wished me a good morning today. Such pleasantries that you might take for granted on the outside world start to take on more meaning in prison. I wish someone had wished Mister Rearranger a good morning.

A gang of nine beat the hell out of him in the showers. I wasn’t there when they did it, but they say his blood drained out with the used soapy water, the grime, and other bodily fluids I’ll leave to your imagination.

A hell of a shame. He seemed like an all right sort of man.

We cons aren’t exactly prized for our insight into humanity, but one Russian fellow I read from the prison library said, “The degree of civilization in a society can be judged by entering its prisons.” Meaning we might know a thing or two about people. Still, we’re monsters and dismissed easily.

So it came as a surprise that the parole board asked me who was most deserving of being released. Damnedest thing I ever heard. The man even called me “sir.” He asked me to think long and hard about the decision, because whomever I chose, he said, “would have their circumstances change dramatically.”

Alright... I really don't understand your behavior then MR.

And, voting for myself because I think the winner will be off the poll tomorrow.

Sorry also MR, I am at a loss over this

I would self vote too but would rather see if we can find someone we mostly agree could be civ. If we can't then i will self vote, lol

boo wrote:Alright... I really don't understand your behavior then MR.

And, voting for myself because I think the winner will be off the poll tomorrow.

I'm going to vote for Matt/A Person because I think he's civ and I feel pretty confident about it, so I want to give him a good shot at a prize. I think Matt is a good option for today's vote (instead of voting myself) because maybe some others will feel good about Matt too.

SVS - How do you feel about Matt/A Person for this?

MR - I'm sorry, dude.

S~V~S wrote:Sorry also MR, I am at a loss over this

I would self vote too but would rather see if we can find someone we mostly agree could be civ. If we can't then i will self vote, lol

Can still move votes, don't see the point waiting. And I don't think there will be agreement this early in the game.

Mongoose wrote:

boo wrote:Alright... I really don't understand your behavior then MR.

And, voting for myself because I think the winner will be off the poll tomorrow.

I'm going to vote for Matt/A Person because I think he's civ and I feel pretty confident about it, so I want to give him a good shot at a prize. I think Matt is a good option for today's vote (instead of voting myself) because maybe some others will feel good about Matt too.

SVS - How do you feel about Matt/A Person for this?

MR - I'm sorry, dude.

Because self-votes, especially self-votes after d1, make people feel good about the person doing the self-voting? Not seeing that logic...

I have to reread him, :mongoose: ; I am loving his participation. But I guess i need to specifically see why you say this. I should have time for that before bed tonight.

I need to think about this. I don't think I will self-vote. I have a hunch the parole officer may not like hearing "Me! Release me!" I just need to decide who I trust.

RIP MR

Meh. I was pretty much convinced he was bad.

thellama73 wrote:I need to think about this. I don't think I will self-vote. I have a hunch the parole officer may not like hearing "Me! Release me!" I just need to decide who I trust.

RIP MR

I think I might do the same. Self-voting seems like too easy a choice as well, if we all did that we'd get nowhere.

This may seem an odd choice, but what does everyone think about MP? Honestly, I think I am seeing his civvie game here and I can't think of anyone else who seems more trustworthy.

RIP MR!

I will self-vote for now, but since we can change our votes, I will probably move it to someone else if we can make a consensus as to who might be a civvie.

thellama73 wrote:This may seem an odd choice, but what does everyone think about MP? Honestly, I think I am seeing his civvie game here and I can't think of anyone else who seems more trustworthy.

Maybe. I'm at the point where I feel like I can't read MP very well. Especially early on. But I would be willing to give him the BOTD and vote for him if there others give good enough reasons to do so.

what does being a civ have to do with the poll?

The way it is worded, it seems that perhaps the winner will be taken off the poll. Since it's night, it isn't a lynch.

I'm not sure enough about anyone right now. :/ I will wait to vote. Who wants to take a stab at trying to prove they are civ?

RIP MR!

Elohcin wrote:Who wants to take a stab at trying to prove they are civ?

I survived an NK last night. Does that mean nothing?

thellama73 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Who wants to take a stab at trying to prove they are civ?

I survived an NK last night. Does that mean nothing?

It's not prove of civness, but it certainly improves the odds a lot. I've voting llama for that reason.

And I'm sorry I missed the vote. I was sure I'd be back before time, but we had to run out the door to get to the lights festival at the botanical gardens (awesome, btw).
It wouldn't have affected anything anyway - I wouldn't have voted MR, because his reaction to my original accusation
felt very civ to me.. but I'm at a bit of a loss right now.

I'm kind of hoping for a bit of analysis out of llama, who I'm feeling most confident of so far,
to save me having to reread the thread in my copious free time :-)

Wow. RIP MR. I wasn't expecting it, but I was kind of afraid due to the unanimous votes.

thellama73 wrote:This may seem an odd choice, but what does everyone think about MP? Honestly, I think I am seeing his civvie game here and I can't think of anyone else who seems more trustworthy.

Wow, I am shocked. I appreciate it though! About time you can read me.

I'll be voting for you in this poll, by the way, for obvious reasons. Why Mongoose voted AP is totally beyond me.

Nevinera wrote:

thellama73 wrote:

Elohcin wrote:Who wants to take a stab at trying to prove they are civ?

I survived an NK last night. Does that mean nothing?

It's not prove of civness, but it certainly improves the odds a lot. I've voting llama for that reason.

And I'm sorry I missed the vote. I was sure I'd be back before time, but we had to run out the door to get to the lights festival at the botanical gardens (awesome, btw).
It wouldn't have affected anything anyway - I wouldn't have voted MR, because his reaction to my original accusation
felt very civ to me.. but I'm at a bit of a loss right now.

I'm kind of hoping for a bit of analysis out of llama, who I'm feeling most confident of so far,
to save me having to reread the thread in my copious free time :-)

Does anyone else think Nev might be bad? I'm hesitant, BUT, I think it's really weird the way he suspected MR really early on, then slowly backed away from the suspicion, finally to arrive at this post above.

I know he's busy, but it seems convenient. Maybe I'm way off, but I want to hear what others think too.