The Syndicate

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Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:08 pm It's sad to see that there's a new post and refresh the page and it's just a second VC in a row

Sorry I am usually keeping them and probably Spurs was working on it already when I posted

Other than this, what do you think about the top wagons?

Oh I get it now, it makes sense!

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:06 pm Let's see who are the brave players wagoning the lowest posters...


leetic
3
17%
Voters: @GoSpursGo, @Scotty, @Duelist Mirage

Michelle
3
17%
Voters: @pyxxy, @jess, @gims

Are you making reads with SBPC?

I don't think your tags worked btw.

Anyways, not exclusively, but I did make a point of digging into what content exists among the lower posters.

For dubz I didn't find anything AI, and I wasn't going to vote her out d1 anyways since she's the only player that I know well.

Rondo and Porscha are both committing hard to the bit so I'm gonna wait a little longer before I commit to a read on them.

You gave a reason for lower posting, which doesn't make you immune to a day 1 vote but I try not to just annihilate anyone on day 1 ONLY for low-posting

This left leetic, who as I have said I found the content that he did post to lean more wolfy than not.

Before that, I had votes on Vivax and DM, so I am also trying to get a read on the higher posters

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:07 pm Ily Spurs, thanks for the VCs!

lol oops

I do like keeping a personal tally so that way I can see the order in which people hop on a wagon. My understanding is there isn't really a way to keep track of that unless you do it manually

There's no possibility to read 10 pages and sleep overnight and be able to function tomorrow, I am pretty sure this calm atmosphere comes from t/t wagons, I know I am town and leetic is a better scum than voting, throwing an excuse and walk away.

Considering that, mafia is in no danger.

Spurs I get you find leetic wolfy but I need to know exactly why

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:09 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:06 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:54 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:45 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:30 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 12:45 pm Been working on grad school application stuff so I've been a bit busy. I do like nutella and jess's more recent posts but Epi's progression feels super lame.

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

So is leetic.
His vote is on nutella and not Epi btw.

Why is leetic considered an easy mark to you?

He's not really around doing much of anything, much as Michelle. Might be a viable place for a mafia to dump a vote on.
I think GSGs read on me hasn't really been evolving since forever despite the high activity so he's still not making it into my townreads.
Speaking of which, I'll have to check NicoleAD again.

Yeah, my read on you hasn't evolved because it hasn't changed.

I'm not voting for leetic because he's not doing much of anything, I'm voting for leetic because I have found what little he has done to read more wolfy than not.

Can you explain further what is wolfy in what leetic said?

I said this a little earlier, but essentially I read leetic's vote on nutella and token shade at jess as feeling like scummy low-effort interaction.

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:11 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:06 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:54 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:45 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:30 pm

leetic wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 12:45 pm Been working on grad school application stuff so I've been a bit busy. I do like nutella and jess's more recent posts but Epi's progression feels super lame.

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

So is leetic.
His vote is on nutella and not Epi btw.

Why is leetic considered an easy mark to you?

He's not really around doing much of anything, much as Michelle. Might be a viable place for a mafia to dump a vote on.
I think GSGs read on me hasn't really been evolving since forever despite the high activity so he's still not making it into my townreads.
Speaking of which, I'll have to check NicoleAD again.

Yeah, my read on you hasn't evolved because it hasn't changed.

I'm not voting for leetic because he's not doing much of anything, I'm voting for leetic because I have found what little he has done to read more wolfy than not.

It's still a bad argument that you based your read on. Going off of me asking LC for a scumread + adding something that never happened on top of it to justify it.

You know what. That's probably the presently most logical argument for someone being mafia at all.

[VOTE: GSG] aubergine

I thought my line of questioning on you was reasonable given that I don't know 75% of the players in this game well, but go off!

Tranq wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 1:33 pm Michelle's use of the phrase "late to the party" is noteworthy as the only other time she has said that was earlier this year in GoC where she was mafia: https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/viewt ... 0#p1165130

So yeah, maybe. That could be a tell. Other than that it looks like she was only able to be here for about 15 minutes.

If you take a town game when I was late, you will find the same sentence or something similar

You have a minus for what I feel like fake solve

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:17 pm leetic is a better scum than voting, throwing an excuse and walk away.

Can you tell me a little bit about leetic's scum game?

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:18 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:09 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:06 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:54 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:45 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:42 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 2:30 pm

I do agree with this

But I also think he is an easy mark

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

So is leetic.
His vote is on nutella and not Epi btw.

Why is leetic considered an easy mark to you?

He's not really around doing much of anything, much as Michelle. Might be a viable place for a mafia to dump a vote on.
I think GSGs read on me hasn't really been evolving since forever despite the high activity so he's still not making it into my townreads.
Speaking of which, I'll have to check NicoleAD again.

Yeah, my read on you hasn't evolved because it hasn't changed.

I'm not voting for leetic because he's not doing much of anything, I'm voting for leetic because I have found what little he has done to read more wolfy than not.

Can you explain further what is wolfy in what leetic said?

I said this a little earlier, but essentially I read leetic's vote on nutella and token shade at jess as feeling like scummy low-effort interaction.

An experienced player randing scum wouldn't vote and leave imo.

michelle starting to feel a lil towny

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:23 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:17 pm leetic is a better scum than voting, throwing an excuse and walk away.

Can you tell me a little bit about leetic's scum game?

I don't remember much, except the skill of looking like solid town solving. It's an old game

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:24 pm michelle starting to feel a lil towny

Who do you think is scum, Jess?

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:08 pm It's sad to see that there's a new post and refresh the page and it's just a second VC in a row

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:26 pm

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:24 pm michelle starting to feel a lil towny

Who do you think is scum, Jess?

i dunno, but this post from duelist from the last page vibed wolfy to me in the moment:

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:08 pm It's sad to see that there's a new post and refresh the page and it's just a second VC in a row

what do you think about duelist?

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:17 pm There's no possibility to read 10 pages and sleep overnight and be able to function tomorrow, I am pretty sure this calm atmosphere comes from t/t wagons, I know I am town and leetic is a better scum than voting, throwing an excuse and walk away.

Considering that, mafia is in no danger.

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine

[unvote]vivax[/unvote]

Eh. Looking at the entirety of the posts I'm less convinced. The LC comment just stuck out as weird but isn't necessarily wolfy.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:32 pm [unvote]vivax[/unvote]

I hate everyting

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:26 pm

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:24 pm michelle starting to feel a lil towny

Who do you think is scum, Jess?

i dunno, but this post from duelist from the last page vibed wolfy to me in the moment:

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:08 pm It's sad to see that there's a new post and refresh the page and it's just a second VC in a row

what do you think about duelist?

That post is a comment without actual contribution.

I can vote there if the Iso is not solvy

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:26 pm

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:24 pm michelle starting to feel a lil towny

Who do you think is scum, Jess?

i dunno, but this post from duelist from the last page vibed wolfy to me in the moment:

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:08 pm It's sad to see that there's a new post and refresh the page and it's just a second VC in a row

what do you think about duelist?

Good catch tbh.
Means he was bored an in an observant state with little pressure to find a correct read. They do already know alignments.

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:32 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:32 pm [unvote]vivax[/unvote]

I hate everyting

There's no unvote button, just use the vote code and write unvote inside

I like how DM is the 4th poster rn, but reading the last posts I feel the need to vote.

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:34 pm

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:26 pm

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:24 pm michelle starting to feel a lil towny

Who do you think is scum, Jess?

i dunno, but this post from duelist from the last page vibed wolfy to me in the moment:

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:08 pm It's sad to see that there's a new post and refresh the page and it's just a second VC in a row

what do you think about duelist?

That post is a comment without actual contribution.

I can vote there if the Iso is not solvy

idk, after initially scum-reading DM I felt their other more recent posts (the one being discussed here excluded) were more solvey. Going back to the last game I played with her where she was scum, she just seems more engaged on d1 than I really saw in that game and the reads she is making seem more real.

Like, I wouldn't full-on shield her, but among the higher posters he content hasn't really pinged me in a negative way

[VOTE: Duelist Mirage ] aubergine

Midnight is a good hour to vote, I will

idk if i like how easily michelle jumped on my suspicion there

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:34 pm

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:30 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:26 pm

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:24 pm michelle starting to feel a lil towny

Who do you think is scum, Jess?

i dunno, but this post from duelist from the last page vibed wolfy to me in the moment:

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:08 pm It's sad to see that there's a new post and refresh the page and it's just a second VC in a row

what do you think about duelist?

That post is a comment without actual contribution.

I can vote there if the Iso is not solvy

idk, after initially scum-reading DM I felt their other more recent posts (the one being discussed here excluded) were more solvey. Going back to the last game I played with her where she was scum, she just seems more engaged on d1 than I really saw in that game and the reads she is making seem more real.

Like, I wouldn't full-on shield her, but among the higher posters he content hasn't really pinged me in a negative way

I'll sleep on it

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:45 pm idk if i like how easily michelle jumped on my suspicion there

I could see that.

Hum.

[VOTE: leetic] aubergine

jess wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:45 pm idk if i like how easily michelle jumped on my suspicion there

I am sleepy and I want to vote.
Also DM had no vote.

Idk if I like how you asked people without voting yourself.

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:31 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:17 pm There's no possibility to read 10 pages and sleep overnight and be able to function tomorrow, I am pretty sure this calm atmosphere comes from t/t wagons, I know I am town and leetic is a better scum than voting, throwing an excuse and walk away.

Considering that, mafia is in no danger.

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine


See you at the same spot.jpg

Forgot Rondo was in this game.
Michelle seems townie imo.
Pyxx too.

Day 1 VC, 9/25/26 at 1600 EDT

Duelist Mirage (1) - Michelle
Trekkie99 () -
Tranq () -
Vivax (2) - Nicole, Long Con
dubz () -
Nicole (1) - nutella
nutella (1) - leetic
DrWilgy (1) - Epig
Porscha () -
leetic (3) - DM, Scotty, Spurs
Spurs (1) - Vivax
pyxxy () -
Epig (1) - MacDougall
Michelle (2) - gims
Rondo (1) - pyxxy

13/20

Leading: leetic
Missing: @DrWilgy , @Dubz , @Porscha , @Trekkie99 , @RondoDimBuckle , @Tranq , @jess

Vote closes at on 9/26/26 at 0600 EDT (14 hours)

yeah michelle is fine

i was genuinely thinking of randomly pressure voting rondo before pyxxy beat me to it

though given timezone things it makes sense he hasn't been around thread recently shrug will see if he joins in any more meaningful way later

leetic/vivax/spurs cluster feels like it has a wolf but idk which

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:06 pm Let's see who are the brave players wagoning the lowest posters...


leetic
3
17%
Voters: @GoSpursGo, @Scotty, @Duelist Mirage

Michelle
3
17%
Voters: @pyxxy, @jess, @gims

Are you making reads with SBPC?

Ah, the SBPC! I have corresponded with them often. Vanderlan da Silva Bolzani is a friend of mine, you know. Brilliant woman. Though I confess I am not entirely certain what the Brazilian Society for the Progress of Science has to do with our present predicament. Perhaps I have misunderstood an acronym. It happens more often than I care to admit.

More importantly, Michelle, are you suspicious of any of the people voting for the low-posting players? I cannot tell whether "brave" is admiration or whether you see something questionable in those wagons.

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:11 pm It's still a bad argument that you based your read on. Going off of me asking LC for a scumread + adding something that never happened on top of it to justify it.

You know what. That's probably the presently most logical argument for someone being mafia at all.

[VOTE: GSG] aubergine

"Logic" doesn't really have much to do with finding wolves most of the time though

Not that I even agree about the 'logic' either

I can't think so I'll be jess' doublevoter this gameday

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:22 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:11 pm It's still a bad argument that you based your read on. Going off of me asking LC for a scumread + adding something that never happened on top of it to justify it.

You know what. That's probably the presently most logical argument for someone being mafia at all.

[VOTE: GSG] aubergine

"Logic" doesn't really have much to do with finding wolves most of the time though

Not that I even agree about the 'logic' either

The alternative is that he confbiased so hard that he thought I did something that I didn‘t do.
In any case, logic‘s the best I got on D1. Probably ever, with the lack of vote traceability.

Disagree then ig.

gims wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:28 pm I can't think so I'll be jess' doublevoter this gameday

that seems like way too much responsibility

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:29 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:22 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:11 pm It's still a bad argument that you based your read on. Going off of me asking LC for a scumread + adding something that never happened on top of it to justify it.

You know what. That's probably the presently most logical argument for someone being mafia at all.

[VOTE: GSG] aubergine

"Logic" doesn't really have much to do with finding wolves most of the time though

Not that I even agree about the 'logic' either

The alternative is that he confbiased so hard that he thought I did something that I didn‘t do.
In any case, logic‘s the best I got on D1. Probably ever, with the lack of vote traceability.

Disagree then ig.

I don't think it was an unreasonable interpretation of your post. You stated that the wagons were a good start. Namedropped LC for some guidance, then did not vote. It seemed like you were saying that voting early was a good start, so I didn't understand your reticence to drop a vote yourself.

There is no logic behind your vote for me, just some angry OMGUS

nutella wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:18 pm leetic/vivax/spurs cluster feels like it has a wolf but idk which

Wouldn't it be nice if there were two?

pyxxy wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:31 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:17 pm There's no possibility to read 10 pages and sleep overnight and be able to function tomorrow, I am pretty sure this calm atmosphere comes from t/t wagons, I know I am town and leetic is a better scum than voting, throwing an excuse and walk away.

Considering that, mafia is in no danger.

[VOTE: RondoDimBuckle] aubergine


See you at the same spot.jpg

Fools hide behind wit
Gimmicks obscure true nature
What are you hiding?

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:45 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:29 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:22 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:11 pm It's still a bad argument that you based your read on. Going off of me asking LC for a scumread + adding something that never happened on top of it to justify it.

You know what. That's probably the presently most logical argument for someone being mafia at all.

[VOTE: GSG] aubergine

"Logic" doesn't really have much to do with finding wolves most of the time though

Not that I even agree about the 'logic' either

The alternative is that he confbiased so hard that he thought I did something that I didn‘t do.
In any case, logic‘s the best I got on D1. Probably ever, with the lack of vote traceability.

Disagree then ig.

I don't think it was an unreasonable interpretation of your post. You stated that the wagons were a good start. Namedropped LC for some guidance, then did not vote. It seemed like you were saying that voting early was a good start, so I didn't understand your reticence to drop a vote yourself.

There is no logic behind your vote for me, just some angry OMGUS

Why do you perceive anger ?

You should only expect anger if you know your read of me is incorrect, no ?

I keep liking my vote more.

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:54 pm

GoSpursGo wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:45 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:29 pm

Duelist Mirage wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 4:22 pm

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 3:11 pm It's still a bad argument that you based your read on. Going off of me asking LC for a scumread + adding something that never happened on top of it to justify it.

You know what. That's probably the presently most logical argument for someone being mafia at all.

[VOTE: GSG] aubergine

"Logic" doesn't really have much to do with finding wolves most of the time though

Not that I even agree about the 'logic' either

The alternative is that he confbiased so hard that he thought I did something that I didn‘t do.
In any case, logic‘s the best I got on D1. Probably ever, with the lack of vote traceability.

Disagree then ig.

I don't think it was an unreasonable interpretation of your post. You stated that the wagons were a good start. Namedropped LC for some guidance, then did not vote. It seemed like you were saying that voting early was a good start, so I didn't understand your reticence to drop a vote yourself.

There is no logic behind your vote for me, just some angry OMGUS

Why do you perceive anger ?

Because you are calling my argument "bad" and that I "confbiased so hard." Maybe I'm grumpy today but you seem angry that I'm scum-reading you, and that's your justification for voting me.

Vivax wrote: ↑Fri Sep 25, 2026 5:02 pm You should only expect anger if you know your read of me is incorrect, no ?

I keep liking my vote more.

No I'm finding you angry because you're being rude.