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No comments on the revelations? Ties, how you survived etc?thellama73 wrote:Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.
Hedgeowl wrote:No comments on the revelations? Ties, how you survived etc?thellama73 wrote:Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.
thellama73 wrote:The difficulty I'm having is that I can't explain how I survived. I looked over the roles again and I confess I don't see how it happened. I can only assume thta there are game mechanics I don't know about, which wouldn't surprise me coming from boo.
I guess the only thing I'll say is: doesn't the NK of FZ look a little too convenient? That is not something I ever would have done if bad, and it looked to me like a blatant attempt to make me look bad by targeting someone who had been a vocal critic of me.
johns2jj wrote:If I am lynched, afterwards, could people tell me why not llama? Thank you.
You find it difficult to believe that it was a tie?thellama73 wrote:Also, I am inclined not to believe a word DH says, even though we are best friends.
I was not aware of a tie.Sorsha wrote:Seem aggressive? I'm asking questions....
And can you explain to me how MR and john seem to have both known that there was a tie?
I find llamas survival the most damning part of this whole thing. DHs sudden defensive posturing didnt do him any favors either though.johns2jj wrote:If I am lynched, afterwards, could people tell me why not llama? Thank you.
Thanks.thellama73 wrote:Hedgeowl wrote:No comments on the revelations? Ties, how you survived etc?thellama73 wrote:Voting now before I forget. For John, naturally.thellama73 wrote:The difficulty I'm having is that I can't explain how I survived. I looked over the roles again and I confess I don't see how it happened. I can only assume thta there are game mechanics I don't know about, which wouldn't surprise me coming from boo.
I guess the only thing I'll say is: doesn't the NK of FZ look a little too convenient? That is not something I ever would have done if bad, and it looked to me like a blatant attempt to make me look bad by targeting someone who had been a vocal critic of me.
but with two baddie teams, that could be a set-up and you could still be bad. 
I don't disagree with this, I do feel some nuances of his Shawshank game.Dom wrote:I'm gonna vote jj for now. I don't know what I'm doing for today yet (I'm spending the day with my aunt). I don't want to miss the vote. I just se egis Shawshank game coming through. I have suspicion against llama too, but I'm really not sure we're seeing his baddie game.
No, I find it hard to believe that you would so overtly reveal behind the scenes information truthfully. It is not in keeping with your character.DharmaHelper wrote:You find it difficult to believe that it was a tie?thellama73 wrote:Also, I am inclined not to believe a word DH says, even though we are best friends.
It would not be dumb if you are bad and trying to get me lynched.DharmaHelper wrote:Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.
With how this game is set up it is going to be very easy For people to manipulate information and keep people from acting with the whole story.DharmaHelper wrote:Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.
Why wait so long to reveal it and why pick llama yesterday and switch to sorsha today?DharmaHelper wrote:Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.
I just read through his comments and didnt see him withholding info? Do you mean when people asked him for more information about the tie?Epignosis wrote:I think it's interesting to see how people reacted with DH initially withholding the information, frankly.
I voted twice so far. One I felt I did not have enough information and now when I do. So every time?AceofSpaces wrote:I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.
Not so much, and Llama brought up a similar point against JJ.AceofSpaces wrote:I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.
ture.Mister Rearranger wrote:See, Dom's vote post makes sense. Anyone who played Shawshank with J2JJ is going to be wary of him. I may personally not like to vote based on "he acted like this before", metagaming cases (that Memento quote applies here as it did with Llama on D1), but I find it understandable. This:
Not so much, and Llama brought up a similar point against JJ.AceofSpaces wrote:I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.
If this is the case, why do we not consistently lynch Vomps, AP, Lizzy, etc... on D1 for pulling the same kind of sh*t? I don't like self-voters, randomizers, and all-around wacky vote patterns, but from the games I've played, there are many players who prove it's not an indication of allegiance one way or another.
Was busy and tied up with other stuff, and revealed it was a tie as soon as I read the issue was up for debate.Hedgeowl wrote:Why wait so long to reveal it and why pick llama yesterday and switch to sorsha today?DharmaHelper wrote:Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.
Mister Rearranger wrote:See, Dom's vote post makes sense. Anyone who played Shawshank with J2JJ is going to be wary of him. I may personally not like to vote based on "he acted like this before", metagaming cases (that Memento quote applies here as it did with Llama on D1), but I find it understandable. This:
Not so much, and Llama brought up a similar point against JJ.AceofSpaces wrote:I've got no problem Voting for Johns Every vote he's made so far has been noncomital and, I believe, made so he can deny responsibility for the lynch. Screams baddie to me.
If this is the case, why do we not consistently lynch Vomps, AP, Lizzy, etc... on D1 for pulling the same kind of sh*t? I don't like self-voters, randomizers, and all-around wacky vote patterns, but from the games I've played, there are many players who prove it's not an indication of allegiance one way or another.
They have?DharmaHelper wrote:Was busy and tied up with other stuff, and revealed it was a tie as soon as I read the issue was up for debate.Hedgeowl wrote:Why wait so long to reveal it and why pick llama yesterday and switch to sorsha today?DharmaHelper wrote:Would be dumb not to reveal it and have everyone acting without the whole story.
Llama's posts have been ringing more civ than Sorshas recently.
If it's a bromance, it's an abusive relationship, since he voted to lynch me over Sorsha yesterday (or at least claims to have.)AceofSpaces wrote:Gotta say, I'm not sure what to think about DH's and llama's bromance. I'll be keeping an eye on them too as we move forward.
thellama73 wrote:I don't have a grudge against you, I just think your bad, and this post does you no favors.johns2jj wrote:I am voting llama unless something else changes my mind. I would rather vote someone less active but I don't have enough evidence for them yet. I am on the fence about lynching people who under participate.
1. There was no tie (that we know about)
2. Even if there was a tie, and the card czar got to break it, how does me surviving it make me bad? That is a non-sequitur.
I was never "so sure." He was just my best guess on Day 1. His Day 2 posts have made me more confident that I was on to something though.S~V~S wrote: I do understand what people are saying about John~ and his last few responses seem more like there is some baddieism going on. But up to that point, I am not sure why llama was so sure, when in only his second game John behaves similarly to his prior game in which he gave a very good showing.
These posts in particular seem pretty logical/honest/civvie leaning to me. Sorsha's storming off after I brought her up didn't.thellama73 wrote:The difficulty I'm having is that I can't explain how I survived. I looked over the roles again and I confess I don't see how it happened. I can only assume thta there are game mechanics I don't know about, which wouldn't surprise me coming from boo.
I guess the only thing I'll say is: doesn't the NK of FZ look a little too convenient? That is not something I ever would have done if bad, and it looked to me like a blatant attempt to make me look bad by targeting someone who had been a vocal critic of me.
boo wrote: 3. Firing a rifle into the air while balls deep in a squealing hog: Your gunfire causes other players to leave you alone. Your beastiality causes them to leave you even further alone. You survive the first two attempts (lynch or NKs) on your life.
I'm asking how else could he survive?DharmaHelper wrote:OiC are you saying llama is the taint?
I'll agree to disagree with you on Sorsha though.
Sorry I didn't see it.Mister Rearranger wrote:I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.
Implying I read things. pff.Mister Rearranger wrote:I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.
DH didn't say it was a tie until noon today. I didn't know it was a tie until he said so. That provides a different context for the reaction posts.Hedgeowl wrote:I just read through his comments and didnt see him withholding info? Do you mean when people asked him for more information about the tie?Epignosis wrote:I think it's interesting to see how people reacted with DH initially withholding the information, frankly.
I don't know if you said it, but I do know that I've mentioned it, as has john, and at least 1-2 other people.Mister Rearranger wrote:I said the same thing like, twice before Bass brought it up.
Why assume this on a Day 1 lynch?thellama73 wrote:Pleased to see I'm still here. I don't know why I am, but I assume some kind (and rational) soul saved me. Thank you.
What else was I to assume? I didn't save myself, so someone else must have.Epignosis wrote:Why assume this on a Day 1 lynch?thellama73 wrote:Pleased to see I'm still here. I don't know why I am, but I assume some kind (and rational) soul saved me. Thank you.
You're not Elohcin.S~V~S wrote:Sorry to be such a fail today. I could see both sides of this John v Llama thing, or at least I could this AM. U have not had time to read and will not be home in time to do so. So I am gonna self vote, I do not feel confident in making any other vote.
Actually lol'dMetalmarsh89 wrote:You're not Elohcin.S~V~S wrote:Sorry to be such a fail today. I could see both sides of this John v Llama thing, or at least I could this AM. U have not had time to read and will not be home in time to do so. So I am gonna self vote, I do not feel confident in making any other vote.