The Syndicate

Oh my god no way!!!! Awesome!!! Thanks to my rezzer!

First off, sorry to mongoose I was clearly wrong there! And I see we caught both baddies!

As to this Mage person, it could really be anyone.... I don't know if it would be better to be more active and aggressive or more blendy and try to avoid attention or somewhere in between. I honestly think this might be kind of a crapshoot. Does anyone have any ideas?

I reread Blooper. I did not see any active suspicions that would have led to her specifically being the victim last night.

Yay! Welcome back MP!.

If I had to guess, I would think that the indie would try to keep active but not too active as to accidently raise suspicion. I guess that is what I would do. Everyone plays differently, so it is hard to tell.

The thing I worry about is the mystery about his ability to become "super powerful". Will he still be killable to a reasonable extent?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:The thing I worry about is the mystery about his ability to become "super powerful". Will he still be killable to a reasonable extent?

I worry about that too; I hope so.

Welcome back MP. I'm gonna go ahead and assume you are civvie.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Welcome back MP. I'm gonna go ahead and assume you are civvie.

Seems logical, right?

Thank you Jane! In fact, those hamburger sliders look like something I'd just love to cook up! Anyway, the forecast predicts MovingPictures on the rise, over by the George Memorial Park. Citizens are pleased, and think that this is just what the city needs in order to overcome this mini-drought we've been experiencing. In fact, we have a caller on the line right now! Eddie, please tell us your opinion on the matter!

"Hello John! Big fan of you and all the FOX19 team. I forgot to enter the recipe contest. Hopefully I can have better luck next time. I'm not sure where to look this lynch, as I've said before, we're kind of back to square one on this. Not sure why (s)he'd kill niju, but that's probably intentional."

Ooh, sorry Eddie, we're all out of time for this segment!

"Wait, I-"

Thank you for your call.

Forecast for the week includes some rain this evening, but all of that should clear up until the weekend, when we'll experience some light showers on Sunday. After that, clear sunny skies! Perfect weather for water skiing on Lake Hampsherd. Jane, what are your plans for this weekend?

...

Eating dinner with the boyfriend? Okay. Back to you, Jane...

MovingPictures07 wrote:First off, sorry to mongoose I was clearly wrong there! And I see we caught both baddies!

OMG you don't have to apologize to me!

Man I am so glad I don't have to post in haiku form anymore. I bet you all are too.

So vets -- how have you caught indies before?

insertnamehere wrote:

Dom wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:Sherry, do you think there's a reason Mr. Name wants to be your bff this game?

I do.

Thank you for your well wishes

Anyway, do you think that reason is civvie-related?

Nope, SVS is my teammate in the super-secret second mafia no one knows about. And we would've gotten away with it too, if it wasn't for you meddling kids!

Clearly not the implication I was going for.... you are also clearly not reading my posts.

insertnamehere wrote:

Dom wrote: Should I explain to you why I post every word I post or should I post things and let the response to influence my thinking? Should I explain to you why you don't need a comma after the word "left" or should I let you use punctuation incorrectly?

OK, let me try to understand this post. From what I can grasp, and correct me if I'm wrong, you are upset about me asking questions about your posts. This is mafia. Asking questions about people's posts is more or less the whole game.

Dom wrote:Should I explain to you why you don't need a comma after the word "left" or should I let you use punctuation incorrectly?

Oh, are we doing grammar lessons now? Let's take a look at what you said literally a sentence earlier.

"should I post things and let the response to influence my thinking?"




Moving on, I'm not getting a LMS indie type of vibe from Dom, but more of a cold, confused, and angry civvie. We should just wait until the drugs wear off, and then hear what he has to say in a hopefully more coherent manner.

I do not appreciate the way you are talking about me at all.
I do not appreciate being told that my posts are incoherent simply because you didn't understand them-- nor did you ask for clarification. I do not appreciate the way you respond to my sarcasm (which was in response to you being extremely condescending) by being more condescending. You didn't so much ask a question as you did mock me to discredit my opinion.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote: Moving on, I'm not getting a LMS indie type of vibe from Dom, but more of a cold, confused, and angry civvie. We should just wait until the drugs wear off, and then hear what he has to say in a hopefully more coherent manner.

I think that's why I have a hard time reading Dom sometimes. In most games, he comes across to me this way at at least one point in time. And that's the impression I'm getting from him now.

Dom, do you feel that the medication you're on is affecting your ability to play or comprehend the game in some ways, or is that a load of crock?

That's a load of crock.
It affects my appetite and my sleep patterns. That's it.
INH would like you to believe that I am a complete, incoherent mess that can't post. I'm not.

Anyway, no time, my laptop is at my house-- I am not. Voting INH

The weather team here at FOX19 would like to remind the public of a safety protocol. Read it carefully, and you may learn something.

insertnamehere wrote:I forgot to enter the recipe contest. Hopefully I can have better luck next time.

That's it, back to you Dom.

I legit cannot picture Logan at a baseball game. I call Hijinks.

anyway, according to host post, we have until Sat at 6pm EST to vote.

*Puts Hands on Hips*

Dom & INH, stop it

*Shakes finger in general direction of laptop (not easy with hands on hips)*

I trust INH, and I have never said I distrust you, Dom. There could be ways, for people to trust each other in this game, not counting the civ BTS, which I do not have, btw. The two of you communicate very differently; perhaps you are hearing tone, not content.

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Mongoose wrote:

MovingPictures07 wrote:First off, sorry to mongoose I was clearly wrong there! And I see we caught both baddies!

OMG you don't have to apologize to me!

Man I am so glad I don't have to post in haiku form anymore. I bet you all are too.

So vets -- how have you caught indies before?

In this case our only real lead is the victim; one of the people who, based on the pre Nutella voting record, HAS to be a civvie. I reread Blooper, and saw no real reason to suspect her. Perhaps you might like to reread her too and see if you see anything there.

Usually the more vics, the more leads, but I have a feeling that this guy could not kill until the baddies were dead.

That's a good idea, I'll do that.

S~V~S wrote:In this case our only real lead is the victim; one of the people who, based on the pre Nutella voting record, HAS to be a civvie. I reread Blooper, and saw no real reason to suspect her. Perhaps you might like to reread her too and see if you see anything there.

Usually the more vics, the more leads, but I have a feeling that this guy could not kill until the baddies were dead.

Are you talking about ninja blooper? Considering bloops was murdered to death by Abramelon, wouldn't she be a civvie? Why would you suspect otherwise?

If SVS is right about the indie not being able to kill until the baddies were both dead (or maybe the baddie killer was dead), this would give this indie a serious motivation to become the world's best baddie hunter (and thus look like Mayor Civ).

Mongoose wrote:If SVS is right about the indie not being able to kill until the baddies were both dead (or maybe the baddie killer was dead), this would give this indie a serious motivation to become the world's best baddie hunter (and thus look like Mayor Civ).

Assuming this theory is true, would that consider looking at people who have been trying really hard to hunt baddies, but people we aren't totally sure of?

My brain is still waking up, so this probably isn't the best time to be asking these questions, but I want to make sure I'm reading this idea right.

Dom wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote: Moving on, I'm not getting a LMS indie type of vibe from Dom, but more of a cold, confused, and angry civvie. We should just wait until the drugs wear off, and then hear what he has to say in a hopefully more coherent manner.

I think that's why I have a hard time reading Dom sometimes. In most games, he comes across to me this way at at least one point in time. And that's the impression I'm getting from him now.

Dom, do you feel that the medication you're on is affecting your ability to play or comprehend the game in some ways, or is that a load of crock?

That's a load of crock.
It affects my appetite and my sleep patterns. That's it.
INH would like you to believe that I am a complete, incoherent mess that can't post. I'm not.

Okay, thanks for the response. As for your vote, that's...interesting. Mostly because I still feel this thing between you and INH is civ on civ.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:In this case our only real lead is the victim; one of the people who, based on the pre Nutella voting record, HAS to be a civvie. I reread Blooper, and saw no real reason to suspect her. Perhaps you might like to reread her too and see if you see anything there.

Usually the more vics, the more leads, but I have a feeling that this guy could not kill until the baddies were dead.

Are you talking about ninja blooper? Considering bloops was murdered to death by Abramelon, wouldn't she be a civvie? Why would you suspect otherwise?

I meant up to the point where the bad team died out. She was one of 2 people that could not have been on the bad team. In thought my meaning was clear?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What I am suspicious of is MM's vote for nutella with no explanation, and I've been suspicious of replacements since they well, replaced the inactive players. That is where my vote is going today.

I'm sorry for not explaining before. It was just a strong hunch. I hope don't think too badly of it now.

llama, if the mafia is eliminated, will it be declared in the game thread?

I, like Blooper, have been suspicious of the replacements and did a reread of MM. There's really not much there, but this caught my eye. There's unfortunately not much more to go on, but I think MM posts read blendy and trying to hide in plain sight.

Votes Metal

I'm voting MM like I did last time, but I'm also keeping an eye on INH for reasons not stated in this post.

I'm fine with a replacement vote. Not really sure how else to vote.

Votes MM

I'm very wrong.

Thanks Jane! As you can see on the radar, a storm is up by Johnson Valley. Now, we're not certain whether it'll hit our neck of the woods. Some have taken the wind direction to mean that this could be a storm of MetalMarsh proportions. I'm not convinced. Basing an entire case on one thing, which isn't very important, can lead to disaster. This isn't meant to be an insult to my esteemed colleagues, I only mean that I disagree with them on this certain matter. What, you may ask, is your final verdict? Well folks, I genuinely don't know. There's not enough proof to point to any one solution. But, of course, on these kinds of shows, we have to reach a verdict anyway. But, I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to stand here and lie to you about what is going on! We're not the type of scum over at ABC17, I can assure you that. So, I'm abstaining from casting a verdict on this issue.

And now, our FANMAIL! Over here at the FOX21 Meteorology Unit, we receive fantail by the bucketload. Here's our response to a Mr. Dom.

Dom wrote:I'm very wrong.

I could go with an MM vote too.

Since the Host said 48 hours for the ballgame Mongoose said she has problems believing Llama is actually attending I will bold that vote:

Voting Metalmarsh

Hedgeowl wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What I am suspicious of is MM's vote for nutella with no explanation, and I've been suspicious of replacements since they well, replaced the inactive players. That is where my vote is going today.

I'm sorry for not explaining before. It was just a strong hunch. I hope don't think too badly of it now.

llama, if the mafia is eliminated, will it be declared in the game thread?

I, like Blooper, have been suspicious of the replacements and did a reread of MM. There's really not much there, but this caught my eye. There's unfortunately not much more to go on, but I think MM posts read blendy and trying to hide in plain sight.

Votes Metal

Am I really being blendy? Or are you just saying that to be blendy?

nutella's been the only player I've had any sort of hunch about so far, which is why I voted for her (first) yesterday. I haven't had a lot of motivation to scumhunt actively this game, but I am most definitely observing player interactions, as well as thinking of different scenarios regarding Abramelin and who it could be, some of which I've posted.

I mean we have almost 24 hours to vote, I don't know why you all are rushing.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Dom wrote:

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote: Moving on, I'm not getting a LMS indie type of vibe from Dom, but more of a cold, confused, and angry civvie. We should just wait until the drugs wear off, and then hear what he has to say in a hopefully more coherent manner.

I think that's why I have a hard time reading Dom sometimes. In most games, he comes across to me this way at at least one point in time. And that's the impression I'm getting from him now.

Dom, do you feel that the medication you're on is affecting your ability to play or comprehend the game in some ways, or is that a load of crock?

That's a load of crock.
It affects my appetite and my sleep patterns. That's it.
INH would like you to believe that I am a complete, incoherent mess that can't post. I'm not.

Okay, thanks for the response. As for your vote, that's...interesting. Mostly because I still feel this thing between you and INH is civ on civ.

That sounds exactly like what nutella said, which was the reason I suspected her.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:In this case our only real lead is the victim; one of the people who, based on the pre Nutella voting record, HAS to be a civvie. I reread Blooper, and saw no real reason to suspect her. Perhaps you might like to reread her too and see if you see anything there.

Usually the more vics, the more leads, but I have a feeling that this guy could not kill until the baddies were dead.

Are you talking about ninja blooper? Considering bloops was murdered to death by Abramelon, wouldn't she be a civvie? Why would you suspect otherwise?

I meant up to the point where the bad team died out. She was one of 2 people that could not have been on the bad team. In thought my meaning was clear?

I didn't realize the non-suspicion you were referring to was something that existed before her death (or nutella's). I thought you were saying that you looked her over again today, and didn't suspect her. me

Wazzipi poll already ended equivalence me

thellama73 wrote:Ninja Blooper has been murdered to death by Abramelin the Mage.
MovingPictures07 has been resurrected.
You have 24 hours to lynch someone. Actually, I am going to a baseball game tomorrow night. You have 48 hours.

llama posted this at 6:02 PM on Thursday, so we have 'til that time on Saturday I presume.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:In this case our only real lead is the victim; one of the people who, based on the pre Nutella voting record, HAS to be a civvie. I reread Blooper, and saw no real reason to suspect her. Perhaps you might like to reread her too and see if you see anything there.

Usually the more vics, the more leads, but I have a feeling that this guy could not kill until the baddies were dead.

Are you talking about ninja blooper? Considering bloops was murdered to death by Abramelon, wouldn't she be a civvie? Why would you suspect otherwise?

I meant up to the point where the bad team died out. She was one of 2 people that could not have been on the bad team. In thought my meaning was clear?

I didn't realize the non-suspicion you were referring to was something that existed before her death (or nutella's). I thought you were saying that you looked her over again today, and didn't suspect her. me

No, I was talking about why someone might kill her, since the new killer killed her

With no other leads, sometimes it helps to try and figure out WHY someone killed a specific victim.

This post specifically is why I voted for you:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What I am suspicious of is MM's vote for nutella with no explanation, and I've been suspicious of replacements since they well, replaced the inactive players. That is where my vote is going today.

I'm sorry for not explaining before. It was just a strong hunch. I hope don't think too badly of it now.

llama, if the mafia is eliminated, will it be declared in the game thread?

Plus this one to a lesser extent:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I really don't know who to look at. I'd assume that Abramelin was civvie-neutral before he had his little "operation", and possibly had to get the baddies out in order to make himself stronger.

I dunno if I agree. There are so many civvie players, I have a hard time seeing Abramelin aligned with them, even at the beginning.

Linki: thanks llama.

What I think INH meant, and I thought it was fairly obvious, was that Abremelin would PLAY the game that way, not that he was ALIGNED that way by the host. The host clearly aligned him as Indy/secret role. But playing the game as a civ would be the best viable way IMO, especially if the theory that Abremelin could not kill until the Mafia was gone is the correct one. It is also possible he chose not to kill to lull the civs and to hide a bit better.

I asked people to reread Blooper to see if they could come up with a reason someone might kill her; have you? Do you have any ideas on who might have wanted to kill her?

Personally, S~V~S, I thought about it and I think Blooper was just an untraceable/chaos kill. I really couldn't find any reason for any particular player to want her dead.

It is also possible she was a set up kill, but i doubt it. I think Boogs was a set up kill though. I am OK with my MM vote.

S~V~S wrote:It is also possible she was a set up kill, but i doubt it. I think Boogs was a set up kill though. I am OK with my MM vote.

Agreed.

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

S~V~S wrote:In this case our only real lead is the victim; one of the people who, based on the pre Nutella voting record, HAS to be a civvie. I reread Blooper, and saw no real reason to suspect her. Perhaps you might like to reread her too and see if you see anything there.

Usually the more vics, the more leads, but I have a feeling that this guy could not kill until the baddies were dead.

Are you talking about ninja blooper? Considering bloops was murdered to death by Abramelon, wouldn't she be a civvie? Why would you suspect otherwise?

I meant up to the point where the bad team died out. She was one of 2 people that could not have been on the bad team. In thought my meaning was clear?

I didn't realize the non-suspicion you were referring to was something that existed before her death (or nutella's). I thought you were saying that you looked her over again today, and didn't suspect her. me

No, I was talking about why someone might kill her, since the new killer killed her

With no other leads, sometimes it helps to try and figure out WHY someone killed a specific victim.

This post specifically is why I voted for you:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What I am suspicious of is MM's vote for nutella with no explanation, and I've been suspicious of replacements since they well, replaced the inactive players. That is where my vote is going today.

I'm sorry for not explaining before. It was just a strong hunch. I hope don't think too badly of it now.

llama, if the mafia is eliminated, will it be declared in the game thread?

Plus this one to a lesser extent:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

insertnamehere wrote:I really don't know who to look at. I'd assume that Abramelin was civvie-neutral before he had his little "operation", and possibly had to get the baddies out in order to make himself stronger.

I dunno if I agree. There are so many civvie players, I have a hard time seeing Abramelin aligned with them, even at the beginning.

Linki: thanks llama.

What I think INH meant, and I thought it was fairly obvious, was that Abremelin would PLAY the game that way, not that he was ALIGNED that way by the host. The host clearly aligned him as Indy/secret role. But playing the game as a civ would be the best viable way IMO, especially if the theory that Abremelin could not kill until the Mafia was gone is the correct one. It is also possible he chose not to kill to lull the civs and to hide a bit better.

I asked people to reread Blooper to see if they could come up with a reason someone might kill her; have you? Do you have any ideas on who might have wanted to kill her?

Sorry, but I'm not one to make assumptions on what other players are trying to say, especially if it's not clear. I don't like that you expect me to do so.

Whoops didnt mean to vote so ealry, but we left for vacation yesterday and i saw the poll ended at 6 and wanted to vote before we left.

I am still feeling good about my MM vote, but ome theory playing in my brain is how was MP rezzed? I need to look back at roles.

Ok, just checked and paracelsus has a reZz, so feeling better there.

I am glad the poll was 48 hours instead of 24 because Epi and I have been spending the weekend with the lovely Mongoose in beautiful St. Pete .

I've had a bit of time to catch up now and I am okay with a Metalmarsh vote.

Tonight we are celebrating Simon's 7th birthday. Cici's and ice cream!

Alright, so we have a little bit of time before the vote ends. I don't know where I stand on a MM vote at this point, mostly because the only case I see for him is that "he's blendy". Is that the greatest extent of it or am I missing something else?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What I am suspicious of is MM's vote for nutella with no explanation, and I've been suspicious of replacements since they well, replaced the inactive players. That is where my vote is going today.

I'm sorry for not explaining before. It was just a strong hunch. I hope don't think too badly of it now.

llama, if the mafia is eliminated, will it be declared in the game thread?

Okay, I see this quote too in one of SVS' posts. But this is the only other evidence I can find. So is that pretty much it?

I don't think he's blendy, I think YOU'RE blendy

You both came in at the same time, he has 9 or 10 more posts than you. He talks, but does not say much. More of his posts are addressing mentions of him than discussing suspicions. He got Bloopers eye, and then tried to push off his vote for Nutella as a cred thing,when it really had no bearing on a LMS role.

Okay, makes sense.

Of course I'm probably coming off as blendy. :P Speed games are usually terrible with my schedule, which is why I don't play them much anymore. I often don't have the time or energy to post nearly as much as I like.

I'll think about what you said. I'm not really committed to voting for any one person in particular yet, and I have a bit more time before I have to come to a decision.

birdwithteeth11 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

nijuukyugou wrote:What I am suspicious of is MM's vote for nutella with no explanation, and I've been suspicious of replacements since they well, replaced the inactive players. That is where my vote is going today.

I'm sorry for not explaining before. It was just a strong hunch. I hope don't think too badly of it now.

llama, if the mafia is eliminated, will it be declared in the game thread?

Okay, I see this quote too in one of SVS' posts. But this is the only other evidence I can find. So is that pretty much it?

That was the point offered. But I want to know why it is relevant when I was the first vote on nutella? Yes it was a bit of a drive-by (due to my lack of time), but it's not like I was following some trendy bandwagon.