The Syndicate

kneel4justice wrote: Although, I do not like Typhoony's vote at all. Seemed like the vote just chose the person with the most votes and for no reason on top of that.

What's wrong with that when you don't have time for an informed vote? Much better than a random vote in my opinion.

FZ. wrote:Sorry zebra. I really thought you were bad.
I need to go and read what happened since I left but where did all the zebra votes come from? I really hate that I'm never awake when the day ends. It sucks.

By the way, why can't we see the poll? I had to go to the other thread for lack of time.

I'll be back later to catch up and see what happened.

I didn't think it would matter whether the poll was up if it was in the polls thread. Apologies.

But since there are no Night polls this game, I'll keep the lynch polls up for reference during the subsequent Night going forward.

Gonna respond to this either way, although she is already dead.

a2thezebra wrote:

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Sorry I can't agree with that. If you have confirmed mafia, you kill them first. Not only you spare a potential civ that would be lynched otherwise, but you remove one or more abilities from the mafia. Plus the information obtained is much more valuable.

At least Epi seems to be wanting for someone else to vote for them so he can make it a lynch, so that's sort of justifiable? But you being so sure of it but wanting to shoot in the dark doesn't make sense.

We will have to agree to disagree about the first part. All of it.

As for the second part, that is just nonsense. How is Epi even sort of justifiable by putting the responsibility of the lynch on everyone else (because as he pointed out himself to criticize town, there is not a single vote for either sig or Simon) when he himself won't own up to that same responsibility? What exempts him? The fact that there are no votes on what he believes to be two confirmed baddies is all the more reason he should be the change he wants to see in the world. Also, you are wrong about me in both suggestions. For one, I am not sure of it. I am not sure of anything actually, which is why I am not comfortable with taking the easy route with two confirmed baddies, whether they are actually bad or not. Two, I am not shooting in the dark. You may find my vote of Enrique suspicious, and that's fine, but anyone who looks at our back-and-forth would be stretching to conclude that my suspicion of him (if I'm civ, and it is therefore genuine suspicion) is a shot in the dark. Enrique being bad is the closest I am to be sure of anything so far in the game, so a shot in the dark it is anything but.

Not voting for someone because the lynch doesn't have enough votes is something I don't really disagree with, but it has some mathematical logic behind it.

As for your case, if you really thought they were "confirmed" baddies you should have been sure of it. If you weren't, then they weren't confirmed. It felt to me like you were contradicting a previous stance you had, and that pinged me. Though at this point it's pointless to argue this anymore.

And the thing about not wanting to lynch confirmed mafias because you want to save them from later is something I've seen destroy entire teams. It's an easy trap for civs to fall in, and it wins games for mafia. Mafia can use those extra nights to employ their abilities to the fullest, and turns out that's really important.

Anyway, catching up.

I missed the party. Bye zebra.

On the other hand, I saw Muse last night in Portland. They were brilliant.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I missed the party. Bye zebra.

On the other hand, I saw Muse last night in Portland. They were brilliant.

Cool. Did they play Starlight? That's my faves.

Also, is DDL bad for acknowledging how pointless it is to argue with a dead person yet did it anyway?

Matt wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I missed the party. Bye zebra.

On the other hand, I saw Muse last night in Portland. They were brilliant.

Cool. Did they play Starlight? That's my faves.

Also, is DDL bad for acknowledging how pointless it is to argue with a dead person yet did it anyway?

You tell me. Why is he arguing with a dead person.

They did! Along with heaps of other excellent songs.

EBWOP: ?

My bad, catching up in AWR

Lol he argued with Zebra acknowledging after he made his point how "pointless" it was to argue with her. But he got the final say so...

Anyway, what's the case on Simon? He said he thinks he's on sig's team so town thinks he's bad?

I'm still catching up myself as well.

Are you a member of mafia Matt?

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm still catching up myself as well.

Are you a member of mafia Matt?

No sir, I am not! I am a confirmed cute, innocent Pikmin.

Matt wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:I'm still catching up myself as well.

Are you a member of mafia Matt?

No sir, I am not! I am a confirmed cute, innocent Pikmin.

I can only confirm the cuteness, not the innocentness.

Thoughts on DDL? Is he your confirmed baddie partner?

Calling it now, Epi DDL Marmot

Most evil sonsaguns I ever did see.

Matt wrote:

Thoughts on DDL? Is he your confirmed baddie partner?

Calling it now, Epi DDL Marmot

Most evil sonsaguns I ever did see.

It seems that voting for my partner on Day 1 has gotten me in trouble again.

Nah, it's cool. Let's vote Enrique next phase for lurking and not posting.

Matt wrote:Nah, it's cool. Let's vote Enrique next phase for lurking and not posting.

Why wait?

Enrique

Show yourself! (in an appropriate manner please)

OK. I've sobered up. Couple thoughts.

1) Don't mix Soco and Vodka. Also, the only right way to ingest gin is with the help of a turkey baster.
2) My list to look at from last night still stands: Epi, Simon and sig. I'm still trying to come to terms with zebra going down and why people voted for her. Rest her soul.

Epi is an interesting study- and studying was always hard for me in school. I'd get distracted and redirect my focus onto funny dog videos.
I'm goin to be reading into things too much in this game, I can tell. Nothing new there.

When Epi voted Simon, he inadvertently linked him to sig.
He keeps it on Simon, and is the only one to vote Simon, but is confident that Simon will not be lynched Day 1, and doesn't want to be the "cheese" standing alone.

Then there's this little tidbit, which I thought notable but no one seemed to talk about:

Epignosis wrote:Before the game began, I explained to him that he is not allowed to talk to me about this game at all. He has his own device now for posting and voting, and even any technical help he requires must be obtained from his mother. The only thing I know that you don't is that yesterday he was giggling like a little school girl.

So it would appear that Epi saw something fishy from the get-go and chose to share it with us. This could be baseless, and I suppose is hardly evidence, but we don't know everything he knows in regards to what happens outside of the forum. We also don't know if Epi is just putting this out there for people like me to bug out on. Either way, it adds to the fire.

Epi really hits home that he wants us to LYNCH HIS CHILD after Simon votes for DrWilgy for voting sig. I mean, if you're going to distance yourself as mafia, and Simon were mafia, this is not how you do it. But as Epi said, Simon has never been mafia before.

But since no one chose to follow the writing on the wall, Epi votes for zebra for proffering a theory that Epi is bussing Simon. It does seem far fetched that if they were both mafia, Epi would come out guns a-blazin against Simon on his [first?] mafia game.

If Epi and Simon are both baddies, I'ma be flabbergasted, but I'm inclined to think that of the people that voted for Zebra, Epi has enough clout and consistency so far to look good to me.

agleaminranks wrote:I'm trying to catch up while taking a break from finals studying.

I'm voting for metalmarsh because 1. it's against the rules, and the rules can be darned and 2. I was not properly gendered.

This is some pretty intense Day 1 rabble so far.

I should have voted this guy instead of Soneji (who- by the way- I read as civilian based on those insightful snipe posts before deadline. I just wish he posted sooner, or else I would have voted differently)

I actually forgot agleaminranks (whom I am from here on calling AGIR) existed. I want to know his thoughts of of the past day as opposed to doing what he did, which was: taking a poop, looking down at said poop, and stating to no one in particular, "That is poop." Hope your finals went well!

agleaminranks wrote:I'm trying to catch up while taking a break from finals studying.

I'm voting for metalmarsh because 1. it's against the rules, and the rules can be darned and 2. I was not properly gendered.

This is some pretty intense Day 1 rabble so far.

What do you think of the intense Day 1 rabble?

What is your gender?

agleaminranks wrote:I'm trying to catch up while taking a break from finals studying.

I'm voting for metalmarsh because 1. it's against the rules, and the rules can be darned and 2. I was not properly gendered.

This is some pretty intense Day 1 rabble so far.

What do you think of the intense Day 1 rabble?

What is your gender?

Sorry for the double-post. 404 not found.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

agleaminranks wrote:I'm trying to catch up while taking a break from finals studying.

I'm voting for metalmarsh because 1. it's against the rules, and the rules can be darned and 2. I was not properly gendered.

This is some pretty intense Day 1 rabble so far.

What do you think of the intense Day 1 rabble?

What is your gender?

It's male; I added a gender guide to the front page.

MovingPictures07 wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

agleaminranks wrote:I'm trying to catch up while taking a break from finals studying.

I'm voting for metalmarsh because 1. it's against the rules, and the rules can be darned and 2. I was not properly gendered.

This is some pretty intense Day 1 rabble so far.

What do you think of the intense Day 1 rabble?

What is your gender?

It's male; I added a gender guide to the front page.

ture

MovingPictures07 wrote:Also, if you have Night actions, you have just a little over 6 hours to send them into me. So please do so if you haven't already!

If you have questions about your Night action or aren't sure whether you have one, PM me and I'd be happy to help.

Thanks MP, I totally forgot to send in my kill.

TheFloyd73 wrote:Hello.
I exist.
That is all.

Hi Floyd!

Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Gonna respond to this either way, although she is already dead.

I know, right? DDL is totes bad and will be slaughtered as vengeance for the death of Red Pikmin Zeebs.

Glorfindel, I'm saying there aren't 6mafia and each of the zebra voters had their own reason (except maybe Typhoony, I wouldn't mind a closer look at him when he comes back).

Matt wrote:I know, right? DDL is totes bad and will be slaughtered as vengeance for the death of Red Pikmin Zeebs.

Screw you. I'm not gonna let a post written to me go unresponded. I make a point to answer everything said to me in those games.

Anyway, I said I was catching up, but I lied. I had other stuff to do. Will try to catch up now.

Reading the end of the phase, Sig is tunneling so hard on Epi I'm not sure whether I call him mafia for that or if I deduce he is playing in a way too risky to be mafia.

Does Sig always tunnel opn people like that?

I mean, to what extent should we interpret Sig's scumminess to be the real deal, and otherwise to what extent does the "Sig always digs his own hole" thing apply?

Because he is firmly in my "too scummy to be scum" zone.

Matt wrote:Don't worry Zeebs, you will be avenged with Glorfindel's death and Spacedaisy's ensuing tears.

Speaking of Spacedaisy, I did not like how she played in this day. Came in, dropped a random vote, made a few more OT posts and disappeared. Reminded me too much of Guess Who Mafia, where she was bad.

Then again, this behavior can be easily explained by real life. But I wanna point this out either way.

Glorfindel wrote:

Enrique wrote:

Glorfindel wrote:I'd played but half a game with Zebs and even I could see she wasn't Mafia. I wonder what that says about anyone else that had played with her more extensively and had a different opinion

Five of us voted for Zeeb, six including Epig. It wouldn't be Mafia if people didn't get things wrong.

Let me understand this, you are saying that the six of you 'just got it wrong'? You are asking me to believe that there was no Mafia on her wagon?

There is likely mafia in her bandwagon, but logic and probability demand most of the 6 people just got it wrong, yeah.

Remember there are only 3 mafias in the game and they wouldn't all jump in the same wagon.

Matt wrote:My bad, catching up in AWR

Lol he argued with Zebra acknowledging after he made his point how "pointless" it was to argue with her. But he got the final say so...

Anyway, what's the case on Simon? He said he thinks he's on sig's team so town thinks he's bad?

He said he would vote for Wilgly because Wilgly voted for Simon, basically.

Dragon D. Luffy wrote: He said he would vote for Wilgly because Wilgly voted for Sig, basically.

Sorry previous post was wrong. Fixed it now.

Scotty wrote:

agleaminranks wrote:I'm trying to catch up while taking a break from finals studying.

I'm voting for metalmarsh because 1. it's against the rules, and the rules can be darned and 2. I was not properly gendered.

This is some pretty intense Day 1 rabble so far.

I should have voted this guy instead of Soneji (who- by the way- I read as civilian based on those insightful snipe posts before deadline. I just wish he posted sooner, or else I would have voted differently)

I actually forgot agleaminranks (whom I am from here on calling AGIR) existed. I want to know his thoughts of of the past day as opposed to doing what he did, which was: taking a poop, looking down at said poop, and stating to no one in particular, "That is poop." Hope your finals went well!

I wouldn't be so quick to call him civ. Making insightful posts as mafia is the kind of thing Soneji can do very well.

That said, my read on him right now is leaning slight civ, but I have played enough games with this guy to learn not to underestimate him.

So looking at Sorsha's posts, I can see why some people were suspecting her, but it doesn't seen like a very strong case for now. She seemed to be suspecting Epi but was looking for ways out of it, as evidenced in this post. In a way, it's a behavior opposite to what Sig has showed:

Sorsha wrote:I might change my vote to someone else, zebra and Scotty both jumped on Epi's sig suspicion quickly and then changed votes when it got some push back. I might vote for one of them.

As it stands, I'm willing to bet Sig and Sorsha can't both be mafia, because they synchronized too much in their Epi suspicion. Though it's likely one of them is mafia, with how fishy the whole thing was. I'm leaning more on Sig right now than Sorsha, though.

Ahhh, been out all day, and it's now almost 2 am. This means, that assuming I'm still alive, I'll have way too many pages to catch up on since I'm already behind on the last hours before deadline. Don't spam the thread with pointless jokes please.

I hope tomorrow will be an easier day. The 24 hour days are going to kill me. I'll be back tomorrow

Epignosis wrote:Weakest Day 1 I've ever seen. Get your heads out of your underwear.

Ha ha

SIMON

Are you bad?

I'm not SIG's teammate. I was confused before. But I know now.

Simon wrote: I'm not SIG's teammate. I was confused before. But I know now.

You didn't answer the question.

SIMON

Are you bad?

Epignosis wrote:SIMON

Are you bad?

No why

Epignosis, are you a member of mafia?

Simon wrote:

Epignosis wrote:SIMON

Are you bad?

No why

No reason.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, are you a member of mafia?

Mafia? I see no Mafia. I see bosses. And sadly, I am not a boss.

Simon wrote:

Epignosis wrote:SIMON

Are you bad?

No why

I imagine you both in the same room: Epi silently screaming and Simon heartily chuckling.

Simon wrote: I'm not SIG's teammate. I was confused before. But I know now.

How would you know?

Would you vote for sig, Simon?

Epignosis wrote:

Metalmarsh89 wrote:Epignosis, are you a member of mafia?

Mafia? I see no Mafia. I see bosses. And sadly, I am not a boss.

I thought this was Pikmin Mafia. Or maybe this means the Pikmin are the mafia?

Scotty wrote:

Simon wrote:

Epignosis wrote:SIMON

Are you bad?

No why

I imagine you both in the same room: Epi silently screaming and Simon heartily chuckling.

Simon wrote: I'm not SIG's teammate. I was confused before. But I know now.

How would you know?

Would you vote for sig, Simon?

If Simon says to vote for sig, would you vote for sig?

I'd vote for Sig if Simon told me to..........oh wait nevermind I wouldn't.

Metalmarsh89 wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Simon wrote:

Epignosis wrote:SIMON

Are you bad?

No why

I imagine you both in the same room: Epi silently screaming and Simon heartily chuckling.

Simon wrote: I'm not SIG's teammate. I was confused before. But I know now.

How would you know?

Would you vote for sig, Simon?

If Simon says to vote for sig, would you vote for sig?

The thing I'm getting at is...didn't Simon vote for DrWilgy for voting sig?

And then to come out and say he's not sig's teammate...what...uh...what is he trying to say?