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Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:20 pm**

[VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:22 pm**

I do not struggle to read marcher/wilgy as a pair of mafia teammates. I suspect them both individually enough to be okay with either of their wagons.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:28 pm**

push comes to shove, if these are the wagons of the day, i'm goin with the one who kept shading me (and previous me) constantly when i look back over his iso

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:40 pm**

also, my reason for suspecting sloon earlier was bad on reflection.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:49 pm**

This:

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:05 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:03 pm
Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:25 pm
DrWilgy wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 4:21 pm
Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:41 pm @Marcher Jovian I appreciate your willingness to explain what your mindset was earlier. That's something that people have trouble doing sometimes. But I'd also like to see evidence that you are re-assessing the votes from yesterday in retrospect. Turnip Head was banished and flipped civilian. What does that mean for us on Day 3 and beyond? Specifically, what does it mean about DrWilgy?
DrWilgy is probably being defended by mafia. No one's really defending him and no one outwardly cares whether he lives or dies. It's all been circumstancial. If we just wanted to turn around and go "Let's yeet Wilgy today" and enough people agree it's gonna happen. The one qualm I have is looking at the wagons, it's Wilgy vs. Radishes (vs. Carote) d1, and it's Wilgy vs. Turnip d2. If you're mafia and you get to pick the winner, it still doesn't rule out Wilgy LHF because mafia wants Radishes dead before he can ramp up and if they're behind yeet Turnip they probably believed the claim.

Maybe I'm just overthinking things and should just sheep Ted's thoughts and vote Wilgy.
What are your thoughts regarding the shift from wagons forming on you to wagons on me? Why is this happening if you are civ? Twice now you are the third where I get put ahead of you and behind someone else.
Because I've had a mix of people either defending me or at least calling me null but with potential, while you've done basically nothing of consequence all game. When push comes to shove, the second wagon will go further than the first.
The hell does this mean?
It means I do not remember anything you've done

Followed by this:

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:10 pm [VOTE: DrWilgy] aubergine

Fine I'll stop talking and let you go do things

Is scummy as hell.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:52 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:12 pm I sense fangs

This

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:16 pm**

Once again the stars have aligned, Celeste, and I see you have suffered a setback most recently. You have my condolences, but we must carry on.

I have made my decision.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:17 pm**

[VOTE: Marcher Jovian] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:17 pm**

I think I feel good about cayvie.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:36 pm**

How is this game always the way it is.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:39 pm**

What's a Tariq

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:40 pm**

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:36 pm How is this game always the way it is.

What’s wrong with it?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:40 pm**

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:48 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 3:41 pm @Marcher Jovian I appreciate your willingness to explain what your mindset was earlier. That's something that people have trouble doing sometimes. But I'd also like to see evidence that you are re-assessing the votes from yesterday in retrospect. Turnip Head was banished and flipped civilian. What does that mean for us on Day 3 and beyond? Specifically, what does it mean about DrWilgy?
DrWilgy is probably being defended by mafia. No one's really defending him and no one outwardly cares whether he lives or dies. It's all been circumstancial. If we just wanted to turn around and go "Let's yeet Wilgy today" and enough people agree it's gonna happen. The one qualm I have is looking at the wagons, it's Wilgy vs. Radishes (vs. Carote) d1, and it's Wilgy vs. Turnip d2. If you're mafia and you get to pick the winner, it still doesn't rule out Wilgy LHF because mafia wants Radishes dead before he can ramp up and if they're behind yeet Turnip they probably believed the claim.

Maybe I'm just overthinking things and should just sheep Ted's thoughts and vote Wilgy.

Defended by mafia is such a weird thing to say

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:47 pm**

Especially when it’s followed by “no one’s really defending him.”

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:49 pm**

lol, i didn't even notice that

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:58 pm**

I still think it's Dr wilgy.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:03 pm**

motobot wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 6:58 pm I still think it's Dr wilgy.

any thoughts on players other than drwilgy?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:04 pm**

the prodigal son returns!

why do you think its dr wilgy

do you have thoughts on anyone else?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm**

“Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:15 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm “Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.

do you think it is w/w, w/v, or v/v?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:16 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:15 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm “Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.
do you think it is w/w, w/v, or v/v?

I could go w/w or w/v. The game state suggests that it’s not v/v.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:18 pm**

nobody gonna tell me about tariq eh?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:19 pm**

Marcher Jovian completely disappearing kinda makes me think wagons are w/w

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:20 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:18 pm nobody gonna tell me about tariq eh?

Sorry, that information is above the potato pay grade.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:20 pm**

Long Con wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:20 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:18 pm nobody gonna tell me about tariq eh?
Sorry, that information is above the potato pay grade.

[VOTE: Long Con] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:21 pm**

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:19 pm Marcher Jovian completely disappearing kinda makes me think wagons are w/w

how come

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:21 pm**

As much as I hate pre-flip associations, I am feeling a marcher/wilgy connection, actually.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:22 pm**

cayvie wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 5:28 pm push comes to shove, if these are the wagons of the day, i'm goin with the one who kept shading me (and previous me) constantly when i look back over his iso

[VOTE: cayvie] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:22 pm**

i just discovered the joy of using the vote tags and not actually changing my votes

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:24 pm**

so like the mafia get to day 3 undamaged and we get dueling mafia wagons on day 3? that sounds like primo bullshit to me. the fact that these are the same two from the past days is also quite ridiculous.

mafia are just dominating here and both of these are town.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:25 pm**

Carotenoid wrote: ↑Sat Jun 27, 2020 5:43 pm bronana
I don’t know how to word it properly but overall I feel like he has been really… Reasonable? Like well-grounded? I especially liked their post saying « Feels impossible to get a good grasp on the game when there are still like five one-posters after 65 hours of game .» I just don’t like the push on me at EoD because I just fail to see the logic, but at the same time if he knew Master Radishes and I are both town it would have been a really discutable push. Hmm so yeah, I dislike the push, but I acknowledge that it seems to be coming from a non-TMI place.

This was a weird read on me.

I had been pushing her and her top townread. She "failed to see the logic" in the former and obviously disagreed with the push on Marcher, so townreading me for being "reasonable" and "well-grounded" is just ... bizarre.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:25 pm**

the fact that we have both of these up again though (and as powered up as they seem to be) makes me feel like we did have scum wagons earlier though and the scum had to push these harder than before to get them ott. see: outed wolf, lissa ... whoever else?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:25 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:24 pm so like the mafia get to day 3 undamaged and we get dueling mafia wagons on day 3? that sounds like primo bullshit to me. the fact that these are the same two from the past days is also quite ridiculous.

mafia are just dominating here and both of these are town.

Who’s pulling the strings?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm “Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.

this is dumb

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:21 pm As much as I hate pre-flip associations, I am feeling a marcher/wilgy connection, actually.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm**

Sloonei working overtime all day after being more or less outed by day 2 and now we get after all that work the two laziest wagons possible with him telling me that they are both mafia makes me just want to hurl him into the fucking sun

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm**

like are we seriously doing sentence formation reads now

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm**

MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:24 pm so like the mafia get to day 3 undamaged and we get dueling mafia wagons on day 3? that sounds like primo bullshit to me. the fact that these are the same two from the past days is also quite ridiculous.

mafia are just dominating here and both of these are town.

I don't follow the logic. Villagers were yeeted over both of them. How does that make them villagers

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:25 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:24 pm so like the mafia get to day 3 undamaged and we get dueling mafia wagons on day 3? that sounds like primo bullshit to me. the fact that these are the same two from the past days is also quite ridiculous.

mafia are just dominating here and both of these are town.
Who’s pulling the strings?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm**

Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:21 pm As much as I hate pre-flip associations, I am feeling a marcher/wilgy connection, actually.

Where does this one derive from?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm**

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm “Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.
this is dumb

can you explain it?

I agree that the way it reads is mostly nonsensical

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:28 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm
Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm “Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.
this is dumb
can you explain it?

I agree that the way it reads is mostly nonsensical

agree with sloonei, i mean.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:29 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm
MacDougall wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:24 pm so like the mafia get to day 3 undamaged and we get dueling mafia wagons on day 3? that sounds like primo bullshit to me. the fact that these are the same two from the past days is also quite ridiculous.

mafia are just dominating here and both of these are town.
I don't follow the logic. Villagers were yeeted over both of them. How does that make them villagers

we have probably just never come close to actually yeeting mafia. The gamestate feels like mafia dominated. We're on day 3 with no mafia flips and we're pushing on the same two people from the first two days. It reminds me of the way Mafia worked Keldeo (town) in the GOC finale I played in last year.

Wilgy and Jovian have both been suspected each day and not gone over. Rather through chance or whatever some other towny goes over on both days. This keeps the easy yeeting alive for a further mislim.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:29 pm**

bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm
Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm “Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.
this is dumb
can you explain it?

I agree that the way it reads is mostly nonsensical

english is dumb and for some reason we don't have different words for like shielded/guarded? that don't serve double duty as being about like direct defense and protection

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:30 pm**

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:29 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm
Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm “Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.
this is dumb
can you explain it?

I agree that the way it reads is mostly nonsensical
english is dumb and for some reason we don't have different words for like shielded/guarded? that don't serve double duty as being about like direct defense and protection

i still don't follow, sorry

who are the wolves defending wilgy iyo?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:30 pm**

[VOTE: Sloonei] aubergine

this ones real. he's bullshit.

gotta jet for a bit

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:30 pm**

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:29 pm
bronana wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:27 pm
Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm
Sloonei wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:12 pm “Wilgy’s being defended by mafia. No one’s really defending him” is the kind of sentence formation that isn’t necessarily scummy, but it makes so little sense that I have trouble seeing it as an organic thought process.
this is dumb
can you explain it?

I agree that the way it reads is mostly nonsensical
english is dumb and for some reason we don't have different words for like shielded/guarded? that don't serve double duty as being about like direct defense and protection

Like I guess ?protected? is the closest word to the connotation I was looking for?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:31 pm**

Marcher Jovian wrote: ↑Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:26 pm like are we seriously doing sentence formation reads now

Yes?

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:31 pm**

Wolfy pop-in, Mac.

Posted: **Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:31 pm**

Okay I'm going to read the isos. Let me know if there's anything that should draw my eye.

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