Severance [Evening Four]

[RondoDimBuckle]

cleaning this up, double check I didnt miss anything. I am not sure what to make from this vote but I am glad we got off 2/2/2/2/2 wagons

Dyslexicon / Made - Voters: pyxxy, Ranmilia
Gira - Voters: RondoDimBuckle
☆Princess Abigail☆ - Voters: Bereft
pyxxy - Voters: ☆Princess Abigail☆, Made, leetic, Gira, tedxtr

[Porscha]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

what obviously fake claim? I didn't read yesterday's thread

[leetic]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

what obviously fake claim? I didn't read yesterday's thread

She claimed Cop with greens on RDB and Ranmilia, but your incredulous reaction suggests it's fake.

[Porscha]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

what obviously fake claim? I didn't read yesterday's thread

She claimed Cop with greens on RDB and Ranmilia, but your incredulous reaction suggests it's fake.

what have I posted that sounds incredulous?

[leetic]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

what obviously fake claim? I didn't read yesterday's thread

She claimed Cop with greens on RDB and Ranmilia, but your incredulous reaction suggests it's fake.

what have I posted that sounds incredulous?

I feel like you'd know about Abby's claim if it was real

[Made]

Happy Thanksgiving y’all

Im currently in a food coma so imma pass out and jump back in in the morning

surprised noone is voting for me yet. I didn’t think much about what the game means with a chopped a town pyxxy. Ill probably start reinterpreting the d2 chop votes.

until then 🫡

[Ranmilia]

I'm also busy, starting to settle down some now. Procrastinating on reading.

I don't want to sleepwalk into made here. Simultaneously I wish I had made's flip. Jack and I expected to die and the fact that we have not says... I have no idea what it says because that unflip is wild.

Leaving it entirely aside, at a macro level, Made yesterday didn't make me feel like a wolf talking BS, gira and ted did. So that's where my head is at.

[Gira]

So if Bereft an ITP?

Or do we have a janitor?

dunno how you would ever come to the first conclusion

What do you suggest he is then?

it's a janitored kill, guessing 3rd party makes no sense, ran deciding it wasn't town for ??reasons?? is baffling

i don't know why mafia would janitor him when he had a no motion report on him and wasn't credibly a PR but he also was the only player who hadn't really claimed anything. realistically i have no idea why mafia wouldn't janitor abigail if she's town unless her checks are actually correct, but i don't really believe a team within leetic/made/ted is remotely plausible

[Gira]

I'm also busy, starting to settle down some now. Procrastinating on reading.

I don't want to sleepwalk into made here. Simultaneously I wish I had made's flip. Jack and I expected to die and the fact that we have not says... I have no idea what it says because that unflip is wild.

Leaving it entirely aside, at a macro level, Made yesterday didn't make me feel like a wolf talking BS, gira and ted did. So that's where my head is at.

where did it feel like i was "talking bs"?

[Gira]

and why is this only something you're calling out now?

[RondoDimBuckle]

I have a date tonight and dnd tomorrow. I should be free after DND for a few hours then day of vote I will be on a long hike at time of vote so I would like to at least have some sort of wagon by this time tomorrow so when I show up tomorrow night I can work on it. Probably just voting with Abbi / Ran / leetic.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

I love you

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Hate myself

I'm sorry pyxxy

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

If it's obviously fake why do I need to rescind it

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Leetic is red btw

So is TSP

Source is my brain

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Jk I have no reads I should find some probably

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

the most affectionate friendly cat ever despite the perpetual grumpyface, hard to get pics because he spends the whole visit rolling around rubbing on people's legs and begging for pets

I'm pocketed you can be town core again just for cute cat pics

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Leetic is red btw

So is TSP

Source is my brain

I meant Ted

Jfc brain

[Gira]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

If it's obviously fake why do I need to rescind it

because if you play like it's real it's problematic, because ran is howling right now

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Happy Thanksgiving y’all

Im currently in a food coma so imma pass out and jump back in in the morning

surprised noone is voting for me yet. I didn’t think much about what the game means with a chopped a town pyxxy. Ill probably start reinterpreting the d2 chop votes.

until then 🫡

EoD pretty heavily implies no wolfs were threatened in my honest opinion

[Gira]

Happy Thanksgiving y’all

Im currently in a food coma so imma pass out and jump back in in the morning

surprised noone is voting for me yet. I didn’t think much about what the game means with a chopped a town pyxxy. Ill probably start reinterpreting the d2 chop votes.

until then 🫡

EoD pretty heavily implies no wolfs were threatened in my honest opinion

yeah it's almost like someone was hard defending the entire wolf team

[Gira]

realistically ran is unaligned with dizzy's slot for all time. and the ran/abigail dynamic is rarely ever scum/scum.

game doesn't make sense balance-wise if one of the claimed PRs is fake + i think the way both claimed comes across real.

just leaves ran/rondo as the only realistic team

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Jk I have no reads I should find some probably

This catch up has not enlightened me

But Bereft dying over either of the 2 PR claims or either of my masons implies there's a wolf in either group

Or a redirect but I find that unlikely though if someone claims it I'll sheep it ig

[Gira]

i could claim it

it would be a lie but i could claim it

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

If it's obviously fake why do I need to rescind it

because if you play like it's real it's problematic, because ran is howling right now

Funny. I won't protect ran anymore but I don't agree

I don't see how my claim real or not prevents you from going for ran if you don't believe me.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Happy Thanksgiving y’all

Im currently in a food coma so imma pass out and jump back in in the morning

surprised noone is voting for me yet. I didn’t think much about what the game means with a chopped a town pyxxy. Ill probably start reinterpreting the d2 chop votes.

until then 🫡

EoD pretty heavily implies no wolfs were threatened in my honest opinion

yeah it's almost like someone was hard defending the entire wolf team

Lmfao

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I still won't vote into Ran Rondo yet

I still think it's dumb

I still think ignoring the fact to claimed PRs are alive is sus even if their utility is gone keeping 2 ICs alive and killing Bereft here is just not the play

I think Gira is being quite wolfy

I think Ted was the wolfiest player in the game yesterday

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

[VOTE: Ted] aubergine

[Ranmilia]

I'm also busy, starting to settle down some now. Procrastinating on reading.

I don't want to sleepwalk into made here. Simultaneously I wish I had made's flip. Jack and I expected to die and the fact that we have not says... I have no idea what it says because that unflip is wild.

Leaving it entirely aside, at a macro level, Made yesterday didn't make me feel like a wolf talking BS, gira and ted did. So that's where my head is at.

where did it feel like i was "talking bs"?

The "revisionist history" bit trying to discredit me, trying to wagon Abi on TSP spew that in my eyes looks good for her, voting Made then going back to pyxxy and saying "we're going to miss twice in a row", then today you're saying "Bereft was generally townread and this suggests the game is upside down"

All of this is like. What.

I killed TSP.
Bereft was the scummiest player in the game by far.
TSP also tried to turn the game upside down and make Abi a vote.
If you're town we have... very different perspectives.

[Gira]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

If it's obviously fake why do I need to rescind it

because if you play like it's real it's problematic, because ran is howling right now

Funny. I won't protect ran anymore but I don't agree

I don't see how my claim real or not prevents you from going for ran if you don't believe me.

because if i was correct and you were faking, then you become an obstacle to people's ability to actually solve

[Gira]

I'm also busy, starting to settle down some now. Procrastinating on reading.

I don't want to sleepwalk into made here. Simultaneously I wish I had made's flip. Jack and I expected to die and the fact that we have not says... I have no idea what it says because that unflip is wild.

Leaving it entirely aside, at a macro level, Made yesterday didn't make me feel like a wolf talking BS, gira and ted did. So that's where my head is at.

where did it feel like i was "talking bs"?

The "revisionist history" bit trying to discredit me, trying to wagon Abi on TSP spew that in my eyes looks good for her, voting Made then going back to pyxxy and saying "we're going to miss twice in a row", then today you're saying "Bereft was generally townread and this suggests the game is upside down"

All of this is like. What.

I killed TSP.
Bereft was the scummiest player in the game by far.
TSP also tried to turn the game upside down and make Abi a vote.
If you're town we have... very different perspectives.

the revisionist history bit is a factual statement toward you trying to portray yourself as having played a greater role in killing scum than you actually did. this is very frequently done by scum although townies can have faulty memories too - people exaggerate the role they played in their own head. i made nothing of it and didn't push you for it.

you did fuckall to kill tsp and claiming otherwise is an outright fabrication

as for wagoning abigail, that is not a tactic i remotely adopt as scum - trying to kill a player who is generally being townread is unlikely to ever succeed and will only make you enemies (as it has here). if no scum were in danger yesterday, why do i need to push someone who is being townread?

no one was voting bereft, no one was pushing bereft, the most you did was trying to sell paranoia on bereft but no one was biting. if you want to argue bereft was a POE slot, show me where people were actually doubting bereft's alignment.

Regardless of whether or not my summary of bereft being townread is accurate, I think it is inarguable that an "unexpected" kill generally points to the gamestate being one where scum are not the ones receiving pressure.

[Gira]

[VOTE: ran] aubergine

[leetic]

So if Bereft an ITP?

Or do we have a janitor?

dunno how you would ever come to the first conclusion

What do you suggest he is then?

it's a janitored kill, guessing 3rd party makes no sense, ran deciding it wasn't town for ??reasons?? is baffling

i don't know why mafia would janitor him when he had a no motion report on him and wasn't credibly a PR but he also was the only player who hadn't really claimed anything. realistically i have no idea why mafia wouldn't janitor abigail if she's town unless her checks are actually correct, but i don't really believe a team within leetic/made/ted is remotely plausible

If the mafia had janitor, why not use it on one of the claimed PRs? Using it on someone who was almost confirmed vanilla seems like a waste

[leetic]

Anyway, I am pretty dumbfounded by that kill when the wolves' other kills have been fairly predictable; I would have expected me to go down, or at least Ranmilia if they want to get rid of Jack. The fact that Abby wasn't a target suggests that they didn't believe her claim, or maybe the wolf blocker was still in play.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I'm also busy, starting to settle down some now. Procrastinating on reading.

I don't want to sleepwalk into made here. Simultaneously I wish I had made's flip. Jack and I expected to die and the fact that we have not says... I have no idea what it says because that unflip is wild.

Leaving it entirely aside, at a macro level, Made yesterday didn't make me feel like a wolf talking BS, gira and ted did. So that's where my head is at.

where did it feel like i was "talking bs"?

The "revisionist history" bit trying to discredit me, trying to wagon Abi on TSP spew that in my eyes looks good for her, voting Made then going back to pyxxy and saying "we're going to miss twice in a row", then today you're saying "Bereft was generally townread and this suggests the game is upside down"

All of this is like. What.

I killed TSP.
Bereft was the scummiest player in the game by far.
TSP also tried to turn the game upside down and make Abi a vote.
If you're town we have... very different perspectives.

Help I'm being pocketed and I like it.

How the fuck am I supposed to think ran is a wolf...I can't.

Must defend

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

lol

"???"

haha

ok guys I still think abi is town so no go there unless mech red thx

she needs to rescind her obviously fake claim

If it's obviously fake why do I need to rescind it

because if you play like it's real it's problematic, because ran is howling right now

Funny. I won't protect ran anymore but I don't agree

I don't see how my claim real or not prevents you from going for ran if you don't believe me.

because if i was correct and you were faking, then you become an obstacle to people's ability to actually solve

Do I? You seem to have no issue ignoring the claim and solving without it.

[Gira]

@Porscha @leetic @Made

i need you to actually pay attention here, because this game is precariously close to a loss state for town. abigail is easily pocketed by anyone saying something halfway nice to her, and that is problematic. I will try to spell out my case/reasoning as much as possible.

I think to anyone with a halfway rational thought process, it's incredibly clear that i am unaligned with tsp and there should be basically no doubts about my alignment but obviously that's become inconvenient for scum. being in that position is pretty illuminating though.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So if Bereft an ITP?

Or do we have a janitor?

dunno how you would ever come to the first conclusion

What do you suggest he is then?

it's a janitored kill, guessing 3rd party makes no sense, ran deciding it wasn't town for ??reasons?? is baffling

i don't know why mafia would janitor him when he had a no motion report on him and wasn't credibly a PR but he also was the only player who hadn't really claimed anything. realistically i have no idea why mafia wouldn't janitor abigail if she's town unless her checks are actually correct, but i don't really believe a team within leetic/made/ted is remotely plausible

If the mafia had janitor, why not use it on one of the claimed PRs? Using it on someone who was almost confirmed vanilla seems like a waste

That wasn't a janitor

[Gira]

So if Bereft an ITP?

Or do we have a janitor?

dunno how you would ever come to the first conclusion

What do you suggest he is then?

it's a janitored kill, guessing 3rd party makes no sense, ran deciding it wasn't town for ??reasons?? is baffling

i don't know why mafia would janitor him when he had a no motion report on him and wasn't credibly a PR but he also was the only player who hadn't really claimed anything. realistically i have no idea why mafia wouldn't janitor abigail if she's town unless her checks are actually correct, but i don't really believe a team within leetic/made/ted is remotely plausible

If the mafia had janitor, why not use it on one of the claimed PRs? Using it on someone who was almost confirmed vanilla seems like a waste

Anyway, I am pretty dumbfounded by that kill when the wolves' other kills have been fairly predictable; I would have expected me to go down, or at least Ranmilia if they want to get rid of Jack. The fact that Abby wasn't a target suggests that they didn't believe her claim, or maybe the wolf blocker was still in play.

i have no fucking clue

[leetic]

also bets on whose getting NK'ed today?
its leetic correct?

LOL in hindsight

Anyway, a cursory glance through his ISO shows that Abby was the only person he was really pushing at the end

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

Anyway, I am pretty dumbfounded by that kill when the wolves' other kills have been fairly predictable; I would have expected me to go down, or at least Ranmilia if they want to get rid of Jack. The fact that Abby wasn't a target suggests that they didn't believe her claim, or maybe the wolf blocker was still in play.

Tbf by claim I'm out of util so I'm hardly a threat weather being honest or not.

[leetic]

So if Bereft an ITP?

Or do we have a janitor?

dunno how you would ever come to the first conclusion

What do you suggest he is then?

it's a janitored kill, guessing 3rd party makes no sense, ran deciding it wasn't town for ??reasons?? is baffling

i don't know why mafia would janitor him when he had a no motion report on him and wasn't credibly a PR but he also was the only player who hadn't really claimed anything. realistically i have no idea why mafia wouldn't janitor abigail if she's town unless her checks are actually correct, but i don't really believe a team within leetic/made/ted is remotely plausible

If the mafia had janitor, why not use it on one of the claimed PRs? Using it on someone who was almost confirmed vanilla seems like a waste

That wasn't a janitor

And how do you know that?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

I changed my mind [VOTE: Gira] aubergine

I keep telling myself to only vote when I'm confident and trust my gut and yet... I'm incapable

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

@Porscha @leetic @Made

i need you to actually pay attention here, because this game is precariously close to a loss state for town. abigail is easily pocketed by anyone saying something halfway nice to her, and that is problematic. I will try to spell out my case/reasoning as much as possible.

I think to anyone with a halfway rational thought process, it's incredibly clear that i am unaligned with tsp and there should be basically no doubts about my alignment but obviously that's become inconvenient for scum. being in that position is pretty illuminating though.

Well... no... but okay

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

So if Bereft an ITP?

Or do we have a janitor?

dunno how you would ever come to the first conclusion

What do you suggest he is then?

it's a janitored kill, guessing 3rd party makes no sense, ran deciding it wasn't town for ??reasons?? is baffling

i don't know why mafia would janitor him when he had a no motion report on him and wasn't credibly a PR but he also was the only player who hadn't really claimed anything. realistically i have no idea why mafia wouldn't janitor abigail if she's town unless her checks are actually correct, but i don't really believe a team within leetic/made/ted is remotely plausible

If the mafia had janitor, why not use it on one of the claimed PRs? Using it on someone who was almost confirmed vanilla seems like a waste

That wasn't a janitor

And how do you know that?

Cause I'm a wolf obviously

[Gira]

you have basically no emotional maturity and lash out like a toddler at the slightest sign of friction, for all intents and purposes you're roleplaying a child on the internet

[Ranmilia]

I'm also busy, starting to settle down some now. Procrastinating on reading.

I don't want to sleepwalk into made here. Simultaneously I wish I had made's flip. Jack and I expected to die and the fact that we have not says... I have no idea what it says because that unflip is wild.

Leaving it entirely aside, at a macro level, Made yesterday didn't make me feel like a wolf talking BS, gira and ted did. So that's where my head is at.

where did it feel like i was "talking bs"?

The "revisionist history" bit trying to discredit me, trying to wagon Abi on TSP spew that in my eyes looks good for her, voting Made then going back to pyxxy and saying "we're going to miss twice in a row", then today you're saying "Bereft was generally townread and this suggests the game is upside down"

All of this is like. What.

I killed TSP.
Bereft was the scummiest player in the game by far.
TSP also tried to turn the game upside down and make Abi a vote.
If you're town we have... very different perspectives.

the revisionist history bit is a factual statement toward you trying to portray yourself as having played a greater role in killing scum than you actually did. this is very frequently done by scum although townies can have faulty memories too - people exaggerate the role they played in their own head. i made nothing of it and didn't push you for it.

you did fuckall to kill tsp and claiming otherwise is an outright fabrication

as for wagoning abigail, that is not a tactic i remotely adopt as scum - trying to kill a player who is generally being townread is unlikely to ever succeed and will only make you enemies (as it has here). if no scum were in danger yesterday, why do i need to push someone who is being townread?

no one was voting bereft, no one was pushing bereft, the most you did was trying to sell paranoia on bereft but no one was biting. if you want to argue bereft was a POE slot, show me where people were actually doubting bereft's alignment.

Regardless of whether or not my summary of bereft being townread is accurate, I think it is inarguable that an "unexpected" kill generally points to the gamestate being one where scum are not the ones receiving pressure.

[VOTE: Gira] aubergine

Yeah no none of this is true. I spent most of d2 killing TSP. Check the tapes. I was voting bereft, pyxxy was voting bereft, Jack was in agreement. Made townread him but I don't think anyone else did, feel free and correct me on that but he was just going under the radar yesterday.

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

you have basically no emotional maturity and lash out like a toddler at the slightest sign of friction, for all intents and purposes you're roleplaying a child on the internet

Yes I have traumatic brain injuries that quite literally make me have the emotional equity of a 15 year old

But I've been trying to work on myself however being consistently bullied and berated and attacked for playing a game makes it difficult for someone to not lash out at people no matter how much she may be working on herself

I'm a good fucking player and I don't like the insinuation that I just town read anybody who's nice to me it's not true neither is it why I've town read Ran or Rondo for most of the game.

[leetic]

neither is it why I've town read Ran or Rondo for most of the game.

So are you just gonna rescind the claim?

[☆Princess Abigail☆]

neither is it why I've town read Ran or Rondo for most of the game.

So are you just gonna rescind the claim?

Nah that would be boring

I think I've made it pretty obvious the claim was fake when I said I'm no longer confident my town core is pure don't you think