Re: Radiohead Mafia [DAY 2]
Posted: Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:29 pm
Oddmerta is a town jester. Let's move on.
Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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this means that if we exe jpic and he flips red we will not be exeing nanook, so I hope you're sure about this!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
You have played well especially day 2.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pmDon't stress. I managed not to die when you WANTED to kill me, I think I'll be okay when you don't, even if you can't explain it.
I'm still at Nanook as 3P rogue actually.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:29 pmlook. if you think all of the members of the wolf team visited mac for some arbitrarily confusing reason go right aheadAlison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:26 pmgoing afk all game is probably null to moderately scummy depending on the game, which is a range that is more town than defending one wolf and then being caught visiting top town's house while they have bad things happen to them tbhTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:24 pmtell me that dizzy is more town than /insertnamehere/Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:23 pmI'm thinkin' that "uh oh, let's go with sort by post count" is not a great look here bruh.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:21 pmhis claim was towny and he's been aroundTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:19 pmOf greater interest...how do you know so much about Nanook in the first place Tony?
Weren't we just catching you up from having barely remembered the game in time for EoD?
Unless you think that mafia put 3 negative actions on me one of them is town. Nook's claim is more believable.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pmthis means that if we exe jpic and he flips red we will not be exeing nanook, so I hope you're sure about this!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
not that I don't trust you, just letting you know the implications
also this implies that tim was being heavily scumread by mac D2 primarily because of night action results, which are now invalidated.
your position is acceptableTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pmI'm still at Nanook as 3P rogue actually.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:29 pmlook. if you think all of the members of the wolf team visited mac for some arbitrarily confusing reason go right aheadAlison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:26 pmgoing afk all game is probably null to moderately scummy depending on the game, which is a range that is more town than defending one wolf and then being caught visiting top town's house while they have bad things happen to them tbhTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:24 pmtell me that dizzy is more town than /insertnamehere/Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:23 pmI'm thinkin' that "uh oh, let's go with sort by post count" is not a great look here bruh.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:21 pmhis claim was towny and he's been aroundTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:19 pm
Of greater interest...how do you know so much about Nanook in the first place Tony?
Weren't we just catching you up from having barely remembered the game in time for EoD?
Is there a reason Nanook can't be 3P?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:31 pmUnless you think that mafia put 3 negative actions on me one of them is town. Nook's claim is more believable.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pmthis means that if we exe jpic and he flips red we will not be exeing nanook, so I hope you're sure about this!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
not that I don't trust you, just letting you know the implications
also this implies that tim was being heavily scumread by mac D2 primarily because of night action results, which are now invalidated.
what would you do if JPIC flips scum, but isn't the postcapper?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:31 pmUnless you think that mafia put 3 negative actions on me one of them is town. Nook's claim is more believable.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pmthis means that if we exe jpic and he flips red we will not be exeing nanook, so I hope you're sure about this!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
not that I don't trust you, just letting you know the implications
also this implies that tim was being heavily scumread by mac D2 primarily because of night action results, which are now invalidated.
No more than you or anyone.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:32 pmIs there a reason Nanook can't be 3P?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:31 pmUnless you think that mafia put 3 negative actions on me one of them is town. Nook's claim is more believable.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pmthis means that if we exe jpic and he flips red we will not be exeing nanook, so I hope you're sure about this!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
not that I don't trust you, just letting you know the implications
also this implies that tim was being heavily scumread by mac D2 primarily because of night action results, which are now invalidated.
Yeet Nanook.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:33 pmwhat would you do if JPIC flips scum, but isn't the postcapper?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:31 pmUnless you think that mafia put 3 negative actions on me one of them is town. Nook's claim is more believable.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pmthis means that if we exe jpic and he flips red we will not be exeing nanook, so I hope you're sure about this!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
not that I don't trust you, just letting you know the implications
also this implies that tim was being heavily scumread by mac D2 primarily because of night action results, which are now invalidated.
A'ight. Just checking.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:33 pmNo more than you or anyone.Timsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:32 pmIs there a reason Nanook can't be 3P?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:31 pmUnless you think that mafia put 3 negative actions on me one of them is town. Nook's claim is more believable.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pmthis means that if we exe jpic and he flips red we will not be exeing nanook, so I hope you're sure about this!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
not that I don't trust you, just letting you know the implications
also this implies that tim was being heavily scumread by mac D2 primarily because of night action results, which are now invalidated.
okMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
ok, so you don't have mech reason to hard believe that there is exactly 1 scum in jpic/nanook
I'm really feeling the Nanook as third party with a power that escalates from post capping to something worse would absolutely enjoy targeting you first. Showing up at what turned out to be a block party was unplanned, getting observed was a disaster, and "I get a binus for being at the scene of the crime" is a brilliant, Nanook quality fake.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:33 pmYeet Nanook.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:33 pmwhat would you do if JPIC flips scum, but isn't the postcapper?MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:31 pmUnless you think that mafia put 3 negative actions on me one of them is town. Nook's claim is more believable.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:30 pmthis means that if we exe jpic and he flips red we will not be exeing nanook, so I hope you're sure about this!MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:28 pm There is exactly one between JPIC and Nanook. I have no reason to read Tim mafia/rogue now outside of his gameplay which on day 2 was very pro town.
not that I don't trust you, just letting you know the implications
also this implies that tim was being heavily scumread by mac D2 primarily because of night action results, which are now invalidated.
No mech reason. I just don't think mafia put three abilities onto me. I think that it is possible that the other mafia on me had both a postcap ability and something else. I think it's much more likely a mafia than a 3p. If the other one is a 3p I would say that they hit me with something I am unaware of. Possibly Nanook is 3p and does have to target the NKs to get some buff but it wouldn't be just an additional vote.
Score another one for first post reads btw.
Lol if this turns out to be true, which it seems to be. We need to read how people were handling me at the time I was firing off these reads.
this is what i want to figure out too. we have a solid pool for who we should lynch in the next 2 days, but im concerned about the gamestate after that point tbhHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pm okay so like
let’s assume jpic or nanook is scum but not both
there’s still two other mafia right?
because tim says 4 non-town left. one is the rogue. so three are mafia. one of those is the mafia in jpic/nook
so who are the last two mafia? what does the pool look like for that?
As soon as I scumread Sprityo he immediately sheeped my JPIC read. Annoyingly good anti spew lol.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 8:57 amNevermind mac. there was nothing interesting. nothing youve said is interesting. It's 100% entirely you. I was hoping since i head read ahead you mightve actually been productive but all we have to go off of is your good word which is bullocks.MacDougall wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:00 amI see you are taking the "hard claim mafia" defensive strategy.
But I'll do as you requested. Better to have a vote in play than to not [VOTE: JPIC] aubergine
Will I actually go ISO JPIC to see if I think he's scummy? nah not now at least. Day 1 and all. I should just sheep and slank
He's referenced a bloodbath tonight multiple timesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pmNo mech reason. I just don't think mafia put three abilities onto me. I think that it is possible that the other mafia on me had both a postcap ability and something else. I think it's much more likely a mafia than a 3p. If the other one is a 3p I would say that they hit me with something I am unaware of. Possibly Nanook is 3p and does have to target the NKs to get some buff but it wouldn't be just an additional vote.
I still think Tim has more chance than others of being 3p just because his role has 3p potential. But it's just an idea. I think it's possible that his role balancing action means that if the balance gets to a certain degree one way or the other that he gets some super anti whatever faction is in front power. Totally basing this off my own paranoia though. His mech appears to be heavily designed to balance the game between the two factions which to me feels independent. If I am right then his special mega ability is probably fucking terribad for whatever faction is leading.
This was my original Nutella compatibility list for reference. I would start here. Remembering that I posted this before I realised Hally had 3 of these names as having targeted it me the list has good credibility.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Sep 02, 2020 10:12 pm The following players are compatible with Nutella. Everyone else is incompatible. They are in order of compatibility from least to most. The bolded are also independently scummy. The bolded red are independently scummy and also scumread by me.
JPIC
Poison Chan
Radishes
Nook
Herm
Sprityo
Tim
yea idk where we go after we get whichever of nook or jpic is the capperstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:45 pmthis is what i want to figure out too. we have a solid pool for who we should lynch in the next 2 days, but im concerned about the gamestate after that point tbhHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pm okay so like
let’s assume jpic or nanook is scum but not both
there’s still two other mafia right?
because tim says 4 non-town left. one is the rogue. so three are mafia. one of those is the mafia in jpic/nook
so who are the last two mafia? what does the pool look like for that?
I love you man.MacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pmNo mech reason. I just don't think mafia put three abilities onto me. I think that it is possible that the other mafia on me had both a postcap ability and something else. I think it's much more likely a mafia than a 3p. If the other one is a 3p I would say that they hit me with something I am unaware of. Possibly Nanook is 3p and does have to target the NKs to get some buff but it wouldn't be just an additional vote.
I still think Tim has more chance than others of being 3p just because his role has 3p potential. But it's just an idea. I think it's possible that his role balancing action means that if the balance gets to a certain degree one way or the other that he gets some super anti whatever faction is in front power. Totally basing this off my own paranoia though. His mech appears to be heavily designed to balance the game between the two factions which to me feels independent. If I am right then his special mega ability is probably fucking terribad for whatever faction is leading.
Nook has a lot of anti-alignment with Sprityo. A lot.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 amIt's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
Silky smooth skin, etc. What's not to townread?
i remember you called phighter “plighter” for like the entire time he was alive in sf3staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:49 pm psa: if anyone is searching for my interactions with sprit, search for "spirit" instead. i was calling him that for ages before i realized that wasn't his name lmao
Didn't you?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:48 pmHe's referenced a bloodbath tonight multiple timesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pmNo mech reason. I just don't think mafia put three abilities onto me. I think that it is possible that the other mafia on me had both a postcap ability and something else. I think it's much more likely a mafia than a 3p. If the other one is a 3p I would say that they hit me with something I am unaware of. Possibly Nanook is 3p and does have to target the NKs to get some buff but it wouldn't be just an additional vote.
I still think Tim has more chance than others of being 3p just because his role has 3p potential. But it's just an idea. I think it's possible that his role balancing action means that if the balance gets to a certain degree one way or the other that he gets some super anti whatever faction is in front power. Totally basing this off my own paranoia though. His mech appears to be heavily designed to balance the game between the two factions which to me feels independent. If I am right then his special mega ability is probably fucking terribad for whatever faction is leading.
did nook just tr every member of the scum teamMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:50 pmNook has a lot of anti-alignment with Sprityo. A lot.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 amIt's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
Silky smooth skin, etc. What's not to townread?
nah i think it's because sprityo doesn't do this "i smell like lavendar, townread me plz!" stuff with a buddy lolHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:52 pmdid nook just tr every member of the scum teamMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:50 pmNook has a lot of anti-alignment with Sprityo. A lot.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 amIt's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
Silky smooth skin, etc. What's not to townread?
why is that anti-aligned again?
I am inordinately proud of having not been mentioned here.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pm I assume the correct play after clearing out JPIC is to just mow down the rest of the POE.
I'm not a huge fan of how ted didn't do much today, not sure if the interaction with nutella balances that out. Wilgy has done fuck all after a decent tone Day 1 and some really sketchy pushes, so he goes in the POE too. Long Con is in the POE as well, and so is Dizzy. Mow them all down, and then re-evaluate the gamestate after that and figure out who was wrongly townread. Trust the hard towncore still, but start opening up your mind to possibilities of dyachei or samu or whoever being scum if the game doesn't end after that POE is cleared. I probably won't be alive by then so I can't tell you what to do there since obviously it depends on what happens in the day phases after I die.
No that was definitely youTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pmDidn't you?Oddmerta wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:48 pmHe's referenced a bloodbath tonight multiple timesMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pmNo mech reason. I just don't think mafia put three abilities onto me. I think that it is possible that the other mafia on me had both a postcap ability and something else. I think it's much more likely a mafia than a 3p. If the other one is a 3p I would say that they hit me with something I am unaware of. Possibly Nanook is 3p and does have to target the NKs to get some buff but it wouldn't be just an additional vote.
I still think Tim has more chance than others of being 3p just because his role has 3p potential. But it's just an idea. I think it's possible that his role balancing action means that if the balance gets to a certain degree one way or the other that he gets some super anti whatever faction is in front power. Totally basing this off my own paranoia though. His mech appears to be heavily designed to balance the game between the two factions which to me feels independent. If I am right then his special mega ability is probably fucking terribad for whatever faction is leading.
I'm not super bothered. Role madness games are very swingy and town have lost zero players so far. We have a massive mech advantage now. We should really be 3p hunting tonight I think.Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:48 pmyea idk where we go after we get whichever of nook or jpic is the capperstaypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:45 pmthis is what i want to figure out too. we have a solid pool for who we should lynch in the next 2 days, but im concerned about the gamestate after that point tbhHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:42 pm okay so like
let’s assume jpic or nanook is scum but not both
there’s still two other mafia right?
because tim says 4 non-town left. one is the rogue. so three are mafia. one of those is the mafia in jpic/nook
so who are the last two mafia? what does the pool look like for that?
after that the easy targets are kinda gone unless we get more mech on ppl
i am a monolith of not paying attention to peoples usernamesHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:50 pmi remember you called phighter “plighter” for like the entire time he was alive in sf3staypositivefriend wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:49 pm psa: if anyone is searching for my interactions with sprit, search for "spirit" instead. i was calling him that for ages before i realized that wasn't his name lmao
one of your many talents
And Nanook would be less wrong if he was mafia.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:53 pmnah i think it's because sprityo doesn't do this "i smell like lavendar, townread me plz!" stuff with a buddy lolHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:52 pmdid nook just tr every member of the scum teamMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:50 pmNook has a lot of anti-alignment with Sprityo. A lot.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 amIt's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
Silky smooth skin, etc. What's not to townread?
why is that anti-aligned again?
you had a good enough EoD2 (towntelling multiple times, murdering sprityo in a situation where mafia would definitely not want to bus) that I am willing to put you above afks. you're probably still below the dyachei/samu/radishes "solid townread" territory but I no longer actively want to kill youTimsup2nothin wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:53 pmI am inordinately proud of having not been mentioned here.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pm I assume the correct play after clearing out JPIC is to just mow down the rest of the POE.
I'm not a huge fan of how ted didn't do much today, not sure if the interaction with nutella balances that out. Wilgy has done fuck all after a decent tone Day 1 and some really sketchy pushes, so he goes in the POE too. Long Con is in the POE as well, and so is Dizzy. Mow them all down, and then re-evaluate the gamestate after that and figure out who was wrongly townread. Trust the hard towncore still, but start opening up your mind to possibilities of dyachei or samu or whoever being scum if the game doesn't end after that POE is cleared. I probably won't be alive by then so I can't tell you what to do there since obviously it depends on what happens in the day phases after I die.
tbf i dont think there was like... a ton to do today anyway since the yeet was basically pre-ordainedAlison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pm I assume the correct play after clearing out JPIC is to just mow down the rest of the POE.
I'm not a huge fan of how ted didn't do much today, not sure if the interaction with nutella balances that out. Wilgy has done fuck all after a decent tone Day 1 and some really sketchy pushes, so he goes in the POE too. Long Con is in the POE as well, and so is Dizzy. Mow them all down, and then re-evaluate the gamestate after that and figure out who was wrongly townread. Trust the hard towncore still, but start opening up your mind to possibilities of dyachei or samu or whoever being scum if the game doesn't end after that POE is cleared. I probably won't be alive by then so I can't tell you what to do there since obviously it depends on what happens in the day phases after I die.
i mean i think he could? but it doesn’t have to beAlison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:53 pmnah i think it's because sprityo doesn't do this "i smell like lavendar, townread me plz!" stuff with a buddy lolHally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:52 pmdid nook just tr every member of the scum teamMacDougall wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:50 pmNook has a lot of anti-alignment with Sprityo. A lot.sprityo wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:21 amIt's because I smell like lavendar and bathe in honeyNANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:19 am I have a genuine townread of Sprit
Someone send help
Silky smooth skin, etc. What's not to townread?
why is that anti-aligned again?
I'm pretty onboard with all of this, particularly want to highlight that I think Samu needs looking into.Alison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pm I assume the correct play after clearing out JPIC is to just mow down the rest of the POE.
I'm not a huge fan of how ted didn't do much today, not sure if the interaction with nutella balances that out. Wilgy has done fuck all after a decent tone Day 1 and some really sketchy pushes, so he goes in the POE too. Long Con is in the POE as well, and so is Dizzy. Mow them all down, and then re-evaluate the gamestate after that and figure out who was wrongly townread. Trust the hard towncore still, but start opening up your mind to possibilities of dyachei or samu or whoever being scum if the game doesn't end after that POE is cleared. I probably won't be alive by then so I can't tell you what to do there since obviously it depends on what happens in the day phases after I die.
"It's hard for me to solve because we executed the mafia so quickly and decisively that it's hard to do VCA" is a problem I wish I had more often.Hally wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:55 pmtbf i dont think there was like... a ton to do today anyway since the yeet was basically pre-ordainedAlison wrote: ↑Fri Sep 04, 2020 11:51 pm I assume the correct play after clearing out JPIC is to just mow down the rest of the POE.
I'm not a huge fan of how ted didn't do much today, not sure if the interaction with nutella balances that out. Wilgy has done fuck all after a decent tone Day 1 and some really sketchy pushes, so he goes in the POE too. Long Con is in the POE as well, and so is Dizzy. Mow them all down, and then re-evaluate the gamestate after that and figure out who was wrongly townread. Trust the hard towncore still, but start opening up your mind to possibilities of dyachei or samu or whoever being scum if the game doesn't end after that POE is cleared. I probably won't be alive by then so I can't tell you what to do there since obviously it depends on what happens in the day phases after I die.
it makes it kinda hard to solve when we’ve had runaway wagons both days. sprit was outed maf and nut may as well have been. and jpic will be the same. so it could be a bit before we actually start having real wagons and pushes and stuff to analyze