The Syndicate

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:21 pm oh posting that vc let me know nook posted more

ok fine hes probably v the nutella votepost looks dece

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:23 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:21 pm oh posting that vc let me know nook posted more

ok fine hes probably v the nutella votepost looks dece

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Do you even comprehend the gravity of this choice?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:26 pm

Ricochet wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:23 pm

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:21 pm oh posting that vc let me know nook posted more

ok fine hes probably v the nutella votepost looks dece

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Do you even comprehend the gravity of this choice?

[VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

Ok breaking character for the first time to object to rabbit voting them is incredibly sus

Neon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:31 pm [VOTE: Ricochet] aubergine

iaafr wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:38 pm deezees/vivax/ricochet/sloonei

the dream team

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:42 pm

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Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:33 pm Do Not Wish To Yeet (no particular order, copying things around from alphabetical list)
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C4 - no content, claimed NPC and willingness to self-cull, I'll believe it for today
Chelsea - scumread Michelle, wagoned d1, little presence otherwise. Some wolf equity, more NPC equity, not someone I'm interested in today.
Creature - actively playing, can trace his thoughts decently, town in my eyes.
Ender - Taking the claim at face value for today.
Guillo - Pretty obviously NPC and I think the scattered thoughts he's given are protown, but if he's alive tomorrow then sure w/e always oblige a self voter.
Iaafr - Not a wolf.
Ilario - I've vibed with his thoughts. Like that he went straight on Wilgy today before I got in thread.
Jack - Actively playing, has some wolf equity but no desire to vote here today.
Katze - Semi actively playing. I've liked their thoughts. Don't see a reason to push.
Jjj - 0 content minposter, presumed NPC, probably doesn't make those kills. KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY IF HE'S ALIVE ON DAY 8 though.
Lumi - claimed NPC, made a vote script, good enough for now.
Manny - See Guillo but is less loud about the self vote.
Marmot - is cohost.
Nanook - Doesn't make those kills and lurk with 0 content, in my eyes. Revisit if he's alive lategame.
Nutella - Semi actively playing, don't see a reason to push.
Ranmilia - Anata no, terebi ni, Jika-netto Ranmilia! Mi-n-na no, yoku no tomo~!
Santy - Taking claim and townyness at face value for today, given Manny's retraction and his increased presence.
Scotty - Still townread this given events and eod positioning and knowledge of my own alignment, will take the L if wrong. Maybe I should say I scumread him to reverse psychology people into defending him.
Silverkeith - is sheeping me, which is the right and good move for town to win
Sloonei - see JJJ but with more protown equity. Still kill if alive on day 8.

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DeZees - hasn't done much. I don't have much of a read here, looking at others to weigh in.
Dyslexicon - Some concern, didn't seem very horny. Don't think I want to go here today though.
G-Man - Near 0 content, but created an ISO list which earns him survival for now.
Hally - Pretty obviously NPC but if they're not... well, our playstyles don't mesh well and I haven't liked their takes. Not a push for today though.
Vivax - Evasively low content, wouldn't hate pushing here. Does seem to be playing the game though.

Would Vote Zone
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Falcon - 0 content minposter. Shrugze.
Inawy - Showed up yesterday and then didn't take up my offer to participate at all, no objections to pushing here.
Lilypetal - 0 content, claimed wolf, on the shortlist for slots I want to kill.
Porscha - Very little content. In the recent MU Hydra Game 3 I was able to easily find the lilypetal/porscha hydra as town by mid day 1 from spec chat, even though the thread consensus wolfread them. In this game I do not find much townyness in either of them. Hence they make my to-kill list.
DrWilg - Fits the top profile of what I'm looking for as a wolf
Michelle - Several people I trust as decent players, including two dead (though fairly quiet NPCs) have called her wolf. She started playing more yesterday but I'm not particularly sold. I don't enjoy people getting mad though so I don't plan to actively push there today.
Neon - No real content. Vibes more NPC to me but no objections to voting here.
Pyxyy - 0 content minposter. No objections to yeeting.
Ricochet - 0 content minposter. No objections to yeeting. The "voted Sloonei" shield has expired with the revelation that mafia can't find real players.
Seanzie - 0 content minposter, tutuu died actively scumreading, #respectthedead
Schiavetto - 0 content, wolfy poppins, eminently yeetable
Sprityo - 0 content minposter, the "voted Radishes" shield is mostly expired

Am I blind or not in this list?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:42 pm

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Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:33 pm Do Not Wish To Yeet (no particular order, copying things around from alphabetical list)
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C4 - no content, claimed NPC and willingness to self-cull, I'll believe it for today
Chelsea - scumread Michelle, wagoned d1, little presence otherwise. Some wolf equity, more NPC equity, not someone I'm interested in today.
Creature - actively playing, can trace his thoughts decently, town in my eyes.
Ender - Taking the claim at face value for today.
Guillo - Pretty obviously NPC and I think the scattered thoughts he's given are protown, but if he's alive tomorrow then sure w/e always oblige a self voter.
Iaafr - Not a wolf.
Ilario - I've vibed with his thoughts. Like that he went straight on Wilgy today before I got in thread.
Jack - Actively playing, has some wolf equity but no desire to vote here today.
Katze - Semi actively playing. I've liked their thoughts. Don't see a reason to push.
Jjj - 0 content minposter, presumed NPC, probably doesn't make those kills. KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY IF HE'S ALIVE ON DAY 8 though.
Lumi - claimed NPC, made a vote script, good enough for now.
Manny - See Guillo but is less loud about the self vote.
Marmot - is cohost.
Nanook - Doesn't make those kills and lurk with 0 content, in my eyes. Revisit if he's alive lategame.
Nutella - Semi actively playing, don't see a reason to push.
Ranmilia - Anata no, terebi ni, Jika-netto Ranmilia! Mi-n-na no, yoku no tomo~!
Santy - Taking claim and townyness at face value for today, given Manny's retraction and his increased presence.
Scotty - Still townread this given events and eod positioning and knowledge of my own alignment, will take the L if wrong. Maybe I should say I scumread him to reverse psychology people into defending him.
Silverkeith - is sheeping me, which is the right and good move for town to win
Sloonei - see JJJ but with more protown equity. Still kill if alive on day 8.

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DeZees - hasn't done much. I don't have much of a read here, looking at others to weigh in.
Dyslexicon - Some concern, didn't seem very horny. Don't think I want to go here today though.
G-Man - Near 0 content, but created an ISO list which earns him survival for now.
Hally - Pretty obviously NPC but if they're not... well, our playstyles don't mesh well and I haven't liked their takes. Not a push for today though.
Vivax - Evasively low content, wouldn't hate pushing here. Does seem to be playing the game though.

Would Vote Zone
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Falcon - 0 content minposter. Shrugze.
Inawy - Showed up yesterday and then didn't take up my offer to participate at all, no objections to pushing here.
Lilypetal - 0 content, claimed wolf, on the shortlist for slots I want to kill.
Porscha - Very little content. In the recent MU Hydra Game 3 I was able to easily find the lilypetal/porscha hydra as town by mid day 1 from spec chat, even though the thread consensus wolfread them. In this game I do not find much townyness in either of them. Hence they make my to-kill list.
DrWilg - Fits the top profile of what I'm looking for as a wolf
Michelle - Several people I trust as decent players, including two dead (though fairly quiet NPCs) have called her wolf. She started playing more yesterday but I'm not particularly sold. I don't enjoy people getting mad though so I don't plan to actively push there today.
Neon - No real content. Vibes more NPC to me but no objections to voting here.
Pyxyy - 0 content minposter. No objections to yeeting.
Ricochet - 0 content minposter. No objections to yeeting. The "voted Sloonei" shield has expired with the revelation that mafia can't find real players.
Seanzie - 0 content minposter, tutuu died actively scumreading, #respectthedead
Schiavetto - 0 content, wolfy poppins, eminently yeetable
Sprityo - 0 content minposter, the "voted Radishes" shield is mostly expired

Am I blind or not in this list?

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Michelle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 2:56 pm Let's see who is defending me and why, and who is accusing me and why.

I started the game being extremely busy, so I can't blame TSP for thinking i am bad. However the votes from HK and Nanook are both bad. They know how busy I am so me low posting shouldn't be so important for them.

Their meta suspicion, if based on post count, is bad and outdated.

Other suspicion came from Chelsea and i don't know the reason but we rarely play together and our previous game wasn't recent.

Another came from ranmila because she was sheeping the others and took personal the fact i said i don't care about her and Chelsea's votes. For me that meant i don't trust their reads regardless alignament but the way i worded wasn't the best.

Iaafr was on the fence and pushed me, receiving my insta vote and his reaction changed my first take.

After this nutella sheeped ranmila and I considered that suspicious

I didn't read if there were another players suspecting me, Creature just voted me iirc but i forgot why.

There isn't a single player above who asked me anything before labeling me as wolf.

Now who TR me:
- Ender, in a moment when I was pushed and the thread was against me. Defending a villager may be a way to receive town read, but what wolf is doing it so openly and against the grain? That gave me a TR for him. Ender knows me well, we played a team game at MU together and he has a good read on me since then.

- Golden, we recently played the game 1 and we were wolves together. He noticed and shared a difference in my play. He is one of the flipped players who witnessed first hand my latest meta.

- wilgy played that game as well, he also TR me without feeling like a false thought

- Dizzy knows me very well, i am not surprised about the read

I can accept TRs from all these people without suspecting them of pocketing attempts.

- illario TRs me. He keeps his cards close to the chest so i can't give a read about him. He is one of the few players who read me well since we wolfed together and knows he can't misread me without rising suspicion as wolf, or he is just town/npc shading a correct read.

- SilverKeith TR me. I can't read him.

When Ranmila says there are wolves around me, that may be, i can't say anything else that I have a lot of people around me and maybe tomorrow if i am alive I can think at them. But also if anyone wants to go into this direction, please tell me if you consider I am wrong in anything i said above



Reading the post from Ranmila I get the spectator feeling, and I understand she read my games and have a personal opinion about my meta. Because of that I don't understand why you had to sheep the others regarding my slot.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:43 pm

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:42 pm

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Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 1:33 pm Do Not Wish To Yeet (no particular order, copying things around from alphabetical list)
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C4 - no content, claimed NPC and willingness to self-cull, I'll believe it for today
Chelsea - scumread Michelle, wagoned d1, little presence otherwise. Some wolf equity, more NPC equity, not someone I'm interested in today.
Creature - actively playing, can trace his thoughts decently, town in my eyes.
Ender - Taking the claim at face value for today.
Guillo - Pretty obviously NPC and I think the scattered thoughts he's given are protown, but if he's alive tomorrow then sure w/e always oblige a self voter.
Iaafr - Not a wolf.
Ilario - I've vibed with his thoughts. Like that he went straight on Wilgy today before I got in thread.
Jack - Actively playing, has some wolf equity but no desire to vote here today.
Katze - Semi actively playing. I've liked their thoughts. Don't see a reason to push.
Jjj - 0 content minposter, presumed NPC, probably doesn't make those kills. KILL HIM IMMEDIATELY IF HE'S ALIVE ON DAY 8 though.
Lumi - claimed NPC, made a vote script, good enough for now.
Manny - See Guillo but is less loud about the self vote.
Marmot - is cohost.
Nanook - Doesn't make those kills and lurk with 0 content, in my eyes. Revisit if he's alive lategame.
Nutella - Semi actively playing, don't see a reason to push.
Ranmilia - Anata no, terebi ni, Jika-netto Ranmilia! Mi-n-na no, yoku no tomo~!
Santy - Taking claim and townyness at face value for today, given Manny's retraction and his increased presence.
Scotty - Still townread this given events and eod positioning and knowledge of my own alignment, will take the L if wrong. Maybe I should say I scumread him to reverse psychology people into defending him.
Silverkeith - is sheeping me, which is the right and good move for town to win
Sloonei - see JJJ but with more protown equity. Still kill if alive on day 8.

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DeZees - hasn't done much. I don't have much of a read here, looking at others to weigh in.
Dyslexicon - Some concern, didn't seem very horny. Don't think I want to go here today though.
G-Man - Near 0 content, but created an ISO list which earns him survival for now.
Hally - Pretty obviously NPC but if they're not... well, our playstyles don't mesh well and I haven't liked their takes. Not a push for today though.
Vivax - Evasively low content, wouldn't hate pushing here. Does seem to be playing the game though.

Would Vote Zone
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Falcon - 0 content minposter. Shrugze.
Inawy - Showed up yesterday and then didn't take up my offer to participate at all, no objections to pushing here.
Lilypetal - 0 content, claimed wolf, on the shortlist for slots I want to kill.
Porscha - Very little content. In the recent MU Hydra Game 3 I was able to easily find the lilypetal/porscha hydra as town by mid day 1 from spec chat, even though the thread consensus wolfread them. In this game I do not find much townyness in either of them. Hence they make my to-kill list.
DrWilg - Fits the top profile of what I'm looking for as a wolf
Michelle - Several people I trust as decent players, including two dead (though fairly quiet NPCs) have called her wolf. She started playing more yesterday but I'm not particularly sold. I don't enjoy people getting mad though so I don't plan to actively push there today.
Neon - No real content. Vibes more NPC to me but no objections to voting here.
Pyxyy - 0 content minposter. No objections to yeeting.
Ricochet - 0 content minposter. No objections to yeeting. The "voted Sloonei" shield has expired with the revelation that mafia can't find real players.
Seanzie - 0 content minposter, tutuu died actively scumreading, #respectthedead
Schiavetto - 0 content, wolfy poppins, eminently yeetable
Sprityo - 0 content minposter, the "voted Radishes" shield is mostly expired

Am I blind or not in this list?

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Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:17 pm d1 wagons for reference:

golden (8): EnderWiggin (100), Dyslexicon (54), Creature (78), RondoDimBuckle (119), DeeZees (19), lucy (19), Vivax (18), DrWilgy (17), G-Man (17)
chelsea (7): Golden (47), Scotty (37), Guillotine (150), ilario (38), Neon (69), tutuu (28), ~Prince J~ (18)

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:08 pm Somebody sum up the thread. I’ve been super busy today with my daughter’s birthday. Suggest some people to look into. Tempting as it is to just wait until tomorrow for the game to start for realzies.

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:51 pm ... how is that helping wolves
those people are literally flipped
how would
I don't

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:54 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:51 pm ... how is that helping wolves
those people are literally flipped
how would
I don't

You are literally doing the wolves work for them by crossing our the not town on the list of town voting for golden how do you not get that?

RondoDimBuckle wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:54 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:51 pm ... how is that helping wolves
those people are literally flipped
how would
I don't

You are literally doing the wolves work for them by crossing our the not town on the list of town voting for golden how do you not get that?

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:07 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 4:06 pm NPC votes count as well, right?

They do NOT. NPC votes are fake, the eod kill is determined by secretly counting ONLY real player votes. Which is why we're talking wagonomics.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:15 pm

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:13 pm I suppose that is fair, so:

DrWilgy wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 5:21 pm So what here is the argument for me?

I've seen a few votes.

We are determining, by the fact that the nightkills whiffed on real players, and the relative percentages of people playing actively/doing towny things/being meta townread, that probably most if not all of the wolves are contained somewhere in the pool of players who are posting no real content and claiming they "cannot get into the game until the NPCs leave."

So we are going to kill all of those players.

Probably/possibly starting with you, the esteemed DrWilgy, because your eod pop-ins and votes appear as though you are trying to walk a line where you aren't posting stone nothing, but still aren't really participating in the game.

I don't really have anything to ask you, I'm not sure why santy thinks I should, besides the eternal questions of who do you think is town and who do you think is mafia and why?
If you would like to get the wagon off of yourself, I would suggest digging into some people's ISOs and posting as much thoughtful content as you have the time and energy available to do, and we will judge you on that.

I like it

Ranmilia wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 6:39 pm Skeith my kirb talk to us about Santy

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:11 pm I’m outed as a real player. I was on both flipped wagons. Now, make a read on me.

Porscha wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:13 pm

Dyslexicon wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:11 pm I’m outed as a real player. I was on both flipped wagons. Now, make a read on me.

I have read and dissected every word you have posted this game.

In my professional opinion, you are:

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a cutie patootie

SilverKeith wrote: ↑Fri Dec 09, 2022 7:14 pm I don't like Rondo's approach here. Feels fake/performative