Re: Cindy Kate & Percy Date Night Mafia <3 [DAY 3]
Posted: Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pm
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Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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No. Just one healer (town aligned) and he has to choose between two targets to save, which is the hard part, does the healer saves one and maybe he is mafia and let the other target who might be town, or the other way around.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm Also if there's a 3rd party poisoner, which is increasingly likely with a second one confirmed, then the mafia team can also have a healer.
I think she did?NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pmShe isn't claiming 2 shot healer?MartinGG99 wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:55 pm......Are people going to ignore the fact that Hawk is claiming 2-shot healer and the easiest way to test this is to see if Long Con dies or not?
I bet my slot that Long Con dies. I strongly believe my 1-shot capability implies there's no fake poisons. And since the only other Healer claim is Hawk at this point, I think that fact is even more likely. @NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME, If you somehow believe Hawk (or just simply think I'm not town) then the correct action here is to delete me a day later.
what?
claim
You are acting like there is only one way to have a role be used in a game. Dizzy and Marmot can make any setup they want with poisoners. Just because that's the gimmick you associate with a poisoner doesn't mean it is the only way they can be included in the setup.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pmNo. Just one healer (town aligned) and he has to choose between two targets to save, which is the hard part, does the healer saves one and maybe he is mafia and let the other target who might be town, or the other way around.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm Also if there's a 3rd party poisoner, which is increasingly likely with a second one confirmed, then the mafia team can also have a healer.
No
It's the set up that makes sense for what we've seen. There is never two healers here, one gotta be fake.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pmYou are acting like there is only one way to have a role be used in a game. Dizzy and Marmot can make any setup they want with poisoners. Just because that's the gimmick you associate with a poisoner doesn't mean it is the only way they can be included in the setup.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pmNo. Just one healer (town aligned) and he has to choose between two targets to save, which is the hard part, does the healer saves one and maybe he is mafia and let the other target who might be town, or the other way around.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm Also if there's a 3rd party poisoner, which is increasingly likely with a second one confirmed, then the mafia team can also have a healer.
plz
I said no, besides I already have. Read my ISOMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:08 pmplz
All we've seen is that two people have been poisoned. Unless you know more about the situation than the rest of us, I don't see how you are coming to the conclusions that you are.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 pmIt's the set up that makes sense for what we've seen. There is never two healers here, one gotta be fake.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pmYou are acting like there is only one way to have a role be used in a game. Dizzy and Marmot can make any setup they want with poisoners. Just because that's the gimmick you associate with a poisoner doesn't mean it is the only way they can be included in the setup.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pmNo. Just one healer (town aligned) and he has to choose between two targets to save, which is the hard part, does the healer saves one and maybe he is mafia and let the other target who might be town, or the other way around.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm Also if there's a 3rd party poisoner, which is increasingly likely with a second one confirmed, then the mafia team can also have a healer.
I don't know more about the situation than the rest of us, it's my opinion about the matter.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:10 pmAll we've seen is that two people have been poisoned. Unless you know more about the situation than the rest of us, I don't see how you are coming to the conclusions that you are.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:07 pmIt's the set up that makes sense for what we've seen. There is never two healers here, one gotta be fake.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:06 pmYou are acting like there is only one way to have a role be used in a game. Dizzy and Marmot can make any setup they want with poisoners. Just because that's the gimmick you associate with a poisoner doesn't mean it is the only way they can be included in the setup.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pmNo. Just one healer (town aligned) and he has to choose between two targets to save, which is the hard part, does the healer saves one and maybe he is mafia and let the other target who might be town, or the other way around.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm Also if there's a 3rd party poisoner, which is increasingly likely with a second one confirmed, then the mafia team can also have a healer.
If you already have, care to repeat it? I'm not going to go look at your ISO, but the wolves will I'm sure, so if you are telling the truth, it is bad for town for you to not just repeat it.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:08 pmI said no, besides I already have. Read my ISOMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:08 pmplz
I kill my killersSeanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:13 pmIf you already have, care to repeat it? I'm not going to go look at your ISO, but the wolves will I'm sure, so if you are telling the truth, it is bad for town for you to not just repeat it.Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:08 pmI said no, besides I already have. Read my ISOMacDougall wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:08 pmplz
I'm not sure what you're saying. Did you design the roleGuillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pmNo. Just one healer (town aligned) and he has to choose between two targets to save, which is the hard part, does the healer saves one and maybe he is mafia and let the other target who might be town, or the other way around.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm Also if there's a 3rd party poisoner, which is increasingly likely with a second one confirmed, then the mafia team can also have a healer.
I have run a poisoner game. It's always two poisoners and one healer. The poisoners have one fake poison and 1 real poison action normally. But this is when it's not x-shot.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:15 pmI'm not sure what you're saying. Did you design the roleGuillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:04 pmNo. Just one healer (town aligned) and he has to choose between two targets to save, which is the hard part, does the healer saves one and maybe he is mafia and let the other target who might be town, or the other way around.JaggedJimmyJay wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:01 pm Also if there's a 3rd party poisoner, which is increasingly likely with a second one confirmed, then the mafia team can also have a healer.
This is not a bastard game.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:23 pm "I run things this way so everyone else must do it the same way"
Ok boomer
Why should the mafia try to kill JJJ when there's a decent chance Gavial would kill him on the date anyway?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:40 pm Martin, if JJJ flips mafia I'm having you hang.
There is no way JJJ does not get killed by mafia last night when they have the chance, I'm telling you this as someone whose very effective at being a wolf, I kill loud voices with thread clout over claimed roles, I would have killed JJJ last night after watching that EoD, no questions asked.
The only way JJJ does not die is if he is Mafia.
Do you think there was a decent chance Gavial would have killed JJJ on the date?Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:31 pmWhy should the mafia try to kill JJJ when there's a decent chance Gavial would kill him on the date anyway?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:40 pm Martin, if JJJ flips mafia I'm having you hang.
There is no way JJJ does not get killed by mafia last night when they have the chance, I'm telling you this as someone whose very effective at being a wolf, I kill loud voices with thread clout over claimed roles, I would have killed JJJ last night after watching that EoD, no questions asked.
The only way JJJ does not die is if he is Mafia.
This is only possible if Gavial scumread JJJ. Did Gavial scumread JJJ?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:35 pmDo you think there was a decent chance Gavial would have killed JJJ on the date?Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:31 pmWhy should the mafia try to kill JJJ when there's a decent chance Gavial would kill him on the date anyway?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:40 pm Martin, if JJJ flips mafia I'm having you hang.
There is no way JJJ does not get killed by mafia last night when they have the chance, I'm telling you this as someone whose very effective at being a wolf, I kill loud voices with thread clout over claimed roles, I would have killed JJJ last night after watching that EoD, no questions asked.
The only way JJJ does not die is if he is Mafia.
Why?
All right, got it. In that context, the scum read on me makes sense. I didn't understand the game, and I played accordingly. Also, I never responded to anyone because I couldn't read the print. Both situations did manage to resolve themselves, and I think that my play improved on D2. As you continue reading, I hope that you can view my play with an open mind.orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:38 pm i am on page 25 @Garden Gnome so you can definitely consider my reads list tentative![]()
Because he spends his life griefing mafia gamesGuillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:35 pmDo you think there was a decent chance Gavial would have killed JJJ on the date?Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:31 pmWhy should the mafia try to kill JJJ when there's a decent chance Gavial would kill him on the date anyway?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:40 pm Martin, if JJJ flips mafia I'm having you hang.
There is no way JJJ does not get killed by mafia last night when they have the chance, I'm telling you this as someone whose very effective at being a wolf, I kill loud voices with thread clout over claimed roles, I would have killed JJJ last night after watching that EoD, no questions asked.
The only way JJJ does not die is if he is Mafia.
Why?
This is Alison's second TMI post in the game. If Alison is mafia, then there are two hypothesis;Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:42 pmThis is only possible if Gavial scumread JJJ. Did Gavial scumread JJJ?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:35 pmDo you think there was a decent chance Gavial would have killed JJJ on the date?Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:31 pmWhy should the mafia try to kill JJJ when there's a decent chance Gavial would kill him on the date anyway?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:40 pm Martin, if JJJ flips mafia I'm having you hang.
There is no way JJJ does not get killed by mafia last night when they have the chance, I'm telling you this as someone whose very effective at being a wolf, I kill loud voices with thread clout over claimed roles, I would have killed JJJ last night after watching that EoD, no questions asked.
The only way JJJ does not die is if he is Mafia.
Why?
Are you town reading me already because the way this reads kind of feels like it the otherroption whicj would be bad is that3 you actuallt know that I'm town which is why you're so concerned about me changing the way I view your playGarden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:47 pmAll right, got it. In that context, the scum read on me makes sense. I didn't understand the game, and I played accordingly. Also, I never responded to anyone because I couldn't read the print. Both situations did manage to resolve themselves, and I think that my play improved on D2. As you continue reading, I hope that you can view my play with an open mind.orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:38 pm i am on page 25 @Garden Gnome so you can definitely consider my reads list tentative![]()
You know that me and Jay and possibly others also essentially came to the same possibility about two healers, one of each alignment, all before Alison did?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:56 pmThis is Alison's second TMI post in the game. If Alison is mafia, then there are two hypothesis;Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:42 pmThis is only possible if Gavial scumread JJJ. Did Gavial scumread JJJ?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:35 pmDo you think there was a decent chance Gavial would have killed JJJ on the date?Alison wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:31 pmWhy should the mafia try to kill JJJ when there's a decent chance Gavial would kill him on the date anyway?Guillotine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 4:40 pm Martin, if JJJ flips mafia I'm having you hang.
There is no way JJJ does not get killed by mafia last night when they have the chance, I'm telling you this as someone whose very effective at being a wolf, I kill loud voices with thread clout over claimed roles, I would have killed JJJ last night after watching that EoD, no questions asked.
The only way JJJ does not die is if he is Mafia.
Why?
1) There is a 3rd Party poisoner and two healers, one from mafia and one from town.
or
2) There are two poisoners, one mafia aligned and one town aligned and a town healer and Alison was fake poisoned to spew her town. Maybe.
It's Alison the crazy gambit type? The problem with this second one is that... there are no two poisoned players announced, anywhere.
Either way. Martin and Hawk claims gotta be resolved and I'm inclined to yeet Hawkt not only for contradicting claims, but for her terrible EoD1 vote as well.
Call me crazy or mad set up speccing all you want.
Or maybe you read that sunny was town, I forgot I replaced into a slot, did you read Sonny town?orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:59 pmAre you town reading me already because the way this reads kind of feels like it the otherroption whicj would be bad is that3 you actuallt know that I'm town which is why you're so concerned about me changing the way I view your playGarden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:47 pmAll right, got it. In that context, the scum read on me makes sense. I didn't understand the game, and I played accordingly. Also, I never responded to anyone because I couldn't read the print. Both situations did manage to resolve themselves, and I think that my play improved on D2. As you continue reading, I hope that you can view my play with an open mind.orangecrush wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:38 pm i am on page 25 @Garden Gnome so you can definitely consider my reads list tentative![]()
scummy.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:23 pm "I run things this way so everyone else must do it the same way"
Ok boomer
By whom, about what?
Hes still town just being denseGarden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:18 pmscummy.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:23 pm "I run things this way so everyone else must do it the same way"
Ok boomer![]()
yeah, I think so, too, lol.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:20 pmHes still town just being denseGarden Gnome wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:18 pmscummy.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 6:23 pm "I run things this way so everyone else must do it the same way"
Ok boomer![]()
How exactly does your 2-shot healer work? It’s a day action? Why would you waste it knowing Alison was poisoned? How did you waste it? Like...who else would you have healed? Lolhawkataine wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 5:14 pm Well this is the worst day start I could have possibly imagined
You’d think I was having a good game given that I’ve correctly read everyone who’s flipped so far (except gav but I honestly don’t remember if that was a scum read or an annoyance read), successfully baited owner into outing herself at EoD1 (disagree if you want, this was my intention and it worked), saved Alison (who I really hope is town), and set up an elaborate plan to get the poisoner to target the PoE
And yet (and we’re going for a sort of mirror effect for the next paragraph)
I can’t claim 2-shot healer anymore because Martin has claimed 1-shot and we’ve established there are probably role duplicates. I didn’t actually save Alison, I instead wasted my shot (I knew this would happen but what are you gonna do). My EoD1 vote has everyone wanting my blood despite it being the laziest attempt to save Nutella I would have never come up with. My accurate reads are pretty much worthless because Kito and belzy are both dead, along with Nutella and owner, except fuckin’ everybody also scum read those guys so I don’t even have that going for me.
And that’s not all
Because gavial roleblocked me, someone with a goddamn day action, on N1, the same night there was no kill. Kito, who can actually read me, is dead. Sonny, who I wanted to interrogate today about things he’s said, has repped out (hope you’re okay tho).
So like now what
All I can really do is ask everyone voting me to read my posts and think about whether I’m actually teamed with Nutella and owner. Okay, I’m a player who tends to hedge a bit and allow people the benefit of the doubt when a) I don’t know them or b) they haven’t been around much. Oh hey, look at that, both apply here, that’s my luck this game. If it helps anybody see the light, here are some things I definitely don’t do if I’m on a team with Nutella and owner:
- That terrible made vote with no explanation
- Carry the kill N1 after a terrible EoD
- Come in at start of D2 and say “oh hey I caught owner” and then not draw any attention to how hard I’m scum reading her
- State that I could clear myself today yesterday (this was gonna be a ‘hey look Alison survived’ kinda deal)
- Kill Kito (I miss you </3)
Anyway, I’m gonna spend tonight playing betrayal with my flatmates because I’ve honestly never felt this demotivated as town in my life (not anybody’s fault, just a ridiculously terrible combination of factors). I’ll try to come back tomorrow and be useful.
fixed something, sorry.Seanzie wrote: ↑Thu May 27, 2021 7:34 pm Oh, so like... probably... Hawk is actually a mafia 1-shot healer, and didn't use their shot yesterday on Alison so they still have it, and thought they might be able to clear themselves by healing LC today, but then if Hawk claimed 1-shot healer, there would have been serious questions about why she still had a shot left, so they had to claim 2-shot.
The town pocket...? But not yours?
My town pocket. (the other pocket is just for food storage.) Thank you for pointing it out.
Did you already explain why you don’t think Hawk is scum? If not, can you?