Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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Yeah, especially when only one family wins. You don't want to just tell the other family 'this is my team, pick us off'.S~V~S wrote:His point was that he doubted you were civ due to a lack of interaction with known civs. Why would BTS civs make it obvious?
Quin wrote:Prisoner 509378 wrote:Concur.Golden wrote:Silverwolf's vote for ika is an interesting turn.
I feel much better about silverwolf than I do about ika.
No, there are rules against that sort of thing.thellama73 wrote:Prisoner 509378 wrote:That's the second time in an hour or so that Golden and I have made like the exact same post, and both times it was accidental.Do you two have BTSC?
Actually rainbows are: a bow or arc of prismatic colors appearing in the heavens opposite the sun and caused by the refraction and reflection of the sun's rays in drops of rain. Most certainly not the devil oh great tentacle-monster hostnijuukyugou wrote:Rainbows are the devilMovingPictures07 wrote:I like rainbows.
Carry on.
Warden wrote:I understand you people like rainbows.
Turnip Head
SVS
ika
Silverwolf
chaindeath
Black Rock
Matt
Epignosis
Golden
Serge
Nerolunar
indiglo
Dragon D. Luffy
Soneji
Quin
a2thezebra
thellama73
Boomslang
Draconus
Scotty
Sloonei
sig
Red
Replying a bit as I catch up...Sloonei wrote:Question for other active players: how much stock are we putting into what the prisoners are saying? It seems to me that they're only going to be hre a short time. If that is the case, what is their motivation? Are there teams among them? I would expect that at least some of them are here to help, and in that case I think a fresh set of eyes on the events in the game can be a great thing. They might see things that we all overlooked.
For that reason I am willing to be on board with an Enrique/Boomslang lynch. I have not stopped reading him as bad since Day 2, but I admit I largely forgot he was even here until today, and now at least two prisoners are saying he looks bad as well, presumably without any bias.
I'd had my eye on DDL at one time too. Then, he said something in a post (I don't remember off the top of my head, I'd have to look it up) that made me feel a little better about him. I'd like to hear his reply to the contradiction as well. (Apologies if you've already replied to that, and I haven't gotten there yet.)Sloonei wrote:I've been reading him as town, but the above contradiction you bring up is something I want to see him reply too.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Voting for Dragon D. Luffy now. His CFD behavior was really bad, and his interactions with Fuzz are also less than inspiring. This will make me the only vote on DDL right now, despite numerous people suspecting him to some degree. Why?
Ah, chaindeath can see someone else with an enjoyment of the third person, however, He would like to note that unlike the imprisoned one numbered 331347 he tries to keep it complete. The imprisoned one uses the accursed "I".Scotty wrote:Is it just me or does this post:Look eerily similar in cadence and form to this post:chaindeath wrote:12 it would seem is the number of pages chaindeath can read before his eyes glass over and he cannot get any useful information from the game's forum. He is going to eat and play some BOI and come back in an hour or two.Both talk in 3rd person, both end in an emojI, 2 minutes apart. The only difference is, prisoner 331347 has already done more digging and hypothesizing than chaindeath has on the game.Prisoner 331347 wrote:Could someone update this one on the case on ika? Surfing back, he and the Silverwolf have been tight as twine since early on. I see a serious gang against him on the second day, only to have Fuzz come in and blow his own brains out, so to speak.
This one wonders what Silverwolf's position is as well, and if the change of heart is a method of distancing.
Hilarious to read this. We literally spent a few days having this EXACT discussion with DDL and I believe with Epi as well. Enrique too. We went around and around.Prisoner 509378 wrote:I'm not asking you to reproduce any responses. I honestly don't believe you. I think you're holding steadfast to a perspective you espoused prior to the CFD, and then you felt like you had to stick to your guns after the fact to alleviate the bad looks it'd produce. To think it was "a stupid plan" after the results it produced is frankly nonsense and I don't think you really believe that.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Maybe ISO my posts. I'm pretty sure I had a long debate with Golden on Night 2 about it.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Why?Dragon D. Luffy wrote:I still think it's a stupid plan, btw.
I'm not gonna reproduce every response I made during this game because suddenly there are 15 new players who hadn't been playing with me before. It's not the idea I make of a fun game. If you guys want to lynch me for that, go ahead.
Prisoner 509378 wrote:There was nothing "random" about it. There were concrete reasons produced in the thread that specifically favored moving the lynch to Fuzz, and numerous players took the opportunity. They didn't pull his name out of a hat. They didn't play powerball and end up with F-U-Z-Z. Nobody advocated CFDing to someone "at random". Of course that would be silly. You're criticizing a strategy that didn't even exist in this game.Dragon D. Luffy wrote:Yes I do. We lynched a baddie because of luck, and statistically that shouldn't happen often again.
It's a bad plan, just like lynching at random is a bad plan. The accuracy is not reliable, the reads by association are not reliable, everything is not realiable. One black swan does not mean you have a good chance of finding black swans in the wild.
I'll let you answer to Epi before I carry on with this.
I love it - This is ground hog day.This seems like a good decision.Scotty wrote:This is the literal exercise of WIFOM.Warden wrote:I hope I didn't miss the opportunity to cast a vote. Are we lynching sig or ika?
I am choosing to disregard everything he writes so as not to influence the game.
Sloonei wrote:Moved my vote to Boomslang because I'll do anything this prisoner tells me.Prisoner 509378 wrote:With the Warden and DDL both camping on sig, definitely count me out of supporting that lynch.
QFTika wrote: but my phraseing can eb odd
Why do you hang onto this vote for LC? Chaindeath has said it before but he supposes it bares repeating: Day 1 was buisy for him. He was highly distracted and unable to do much speculation, which is most of what you can do day one. The story hasn't changed and he supposes you are not willing to accept it. He wonders if you would have as much suspicion for him if he had said he used and RNG for the vote.Nerolunar wrote:There is a scumrole in the setup that can pose as another role when lynched.
Actually while we are on this topic, I mostly threw shade at Chaindeath at the time. My goal was not to defend LC, but I did notice Chaindeaths behavior. That was my first ping of him - he decided to vote for LC when the only thing LC had posted was his disagreement to the plan that everyone should be voted for, to trigger the traitors. Very weak reasoning from Chaindeath that he didn´t follow up on rubbed me the wrong way and still does.
He's touchedindiglo wrote:QFTika wrote: but my phraseing can eb odd
But I still enjoy it, every bit as much as I enjoy chaindeath's phrasing.
Ditto. I'd like to hear more from SW on her change in stance on ika when she has time.Golden wrote:Silverwolf's vote for ika is an interesting turn.
I feel much better about silverwolf than I do about ika.
This should explain it:indiglo wrote:Ditto. I'd like to hear more from SW on her change in stance on ika when she has time.Golden wrote:Silverwolf's vote for ika is an interesting turn.
I feel much better about silverwolf than I do about ika.
Silverwolf wrote:ika-You make me sad. First you buddy the shit out of me and then you discredit me. Yes, you have buddied me as town before. The difference is, as town you had a healthy paranoia of me and didn't autotownread me right away. Here you just immediately townread me and immediately defended me from any attack against me, often before I could say anything myself.ika wrote:im dismissing it cus shes knows my meta so well that buddying in itself is null. if she has specifcs about ym buddign then i can see it more clearly.Sloonei wrote:I understand the context. Why are you dismissing her suspicion of you like that? To me it seems like you are telling her to drop the suspicion just because. You're not offering a reason, you're just saying no to it.ika wrote:i think your misunderstanding the context, im telling her the buddying is the nullest tell she can have on me, not the read hrselfSloonei wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is not the first time you've described her read as "the nullest of null". What compels to you say this more than once?
Silverwolf, if you could substantiate your suspicion of ika more thoroughly I'd be a happy camper.
And then I asked Silverwolf to substantiate the case because if she does that I can judge it better and you will have to respond more thoroughly.
do i make sense?
I feel like you were trying to get me on your side so that I wouldn't look at you too closely because you know I am a threat to you when you are scum and I am town. It's very similar to what I've done before as scum and I've seen you do as scum to other people you know in games-defend them to the death.
Also, I know you like to hardcore buss so your vote on RadicalFuzz isn't that much of a town indicator for you as I'd like it to be.
Also, You immediately discredit me when I ask about your buddying instead of show me the town outrage I'd expect if I was wrong-a scum tactic coming from you.
I don't see the same fight from you this game I've seen in other town games. You are too passive.
Finally, you are dismissing every suspicion against you as null tells. They can't all be null tells. Some of them are just plain old scumtells.
This last post of Quin's caught my eye as well. And all the reasons why have now been nicely articulated.S~V~S wrote:Becasue he's bad himself, 509378. That's why.Prisoner 509378 wrote:For the sake of argument I'll simply accept everything you said up to this point, so I can follow your thought process. If they have BTSC, why do you think it's more likely cop-inclined than not?Quin wrote:My conclusion is that they have a BTSC link, and I'm inclined to believe its police BTSC as opposed to a Capo/Crew or Don/Consigliere link.
Hooray! We can now raise our ticket prices!Golden wrote:Welcome to the golden and indiglo show, you can be our honorary third.Prisoner 509378 wrote:That's the second time in an hour or so that Golden and I have made like the exact same post, and both times it was accidental.
I can't see indi as bad this game because at times it feels like we are using the same brain.
Silverwolf wrote:ika-You make me sad. First you buddy the shit out of me and then you discredit me. Yes, you have buddied me as town before. The difference is, as town you had a healthy paranoia of me and didn't autotownread me right away. Here you just immediately townread me and immediately defended me from any attack against me, often before I could say anything myself.ika wrote:im dismissing it cus shes knows my meta so well that buddying in itself is null. if she has specifcs about ym buddign then i can see it more clearly.Sloonei wrote:I understand the context. Why are you dismissing her suspicion of you like that? To me it seems like you are telling her to drop the suspicion just because. You're not offering a reason, you're just saying no to it.ika wrote:i think your misunderstanding the context, im telling her the buddying is the nullest tell she can have on me, not the read hrselfSloonei wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is not the first time you've described her read as "the nullest of null". What compels to you say this more than once?
Silverwolf, if you could substantiate your suspicion of ika more thoroughly I'd be a happy camper.
And then I asked Silverwolf to substantiate the case because if she does that I can judge it better and you will have to respond more thoroughly.
do i make sense?
I feel like you were trying to get me on your side so that I wouldn't look at you too closely because you know I am a threat to you when you are scum and I am town. It's very similar to what I've done before as scum and I've seen you do as scum to other people you know in games-defend them to the death.
Also, I know you like to hardcore buss so your vote on RadicalFuzz isn't that much of a town indicator for you as I'd like it to be.
Also, You immediately discredit me when I ask about your buddying instead of show me the town outrage I'd expect if I was wrong-a scum tactic coming from you.
I don't see the same fight from you this game I've seen in other town games. You are too passive.
Finally, you are dismissing every suspicion against you as null tells. They can't all be null tells. Some of them are just plain old scumtells.
Aye, he's a right festive fella, innit he?Sloonei wrote:Is it because I'm Irish? [Insert the leprechaun smiley I assume indiglo has on hand]Warden wrote:I understand you people like rainbows.
Turnip Head
SVS
ika
Silverwolf
chaindeath
Black Rock
Matt
Epignosis
Golden
Serge
Nerolunar
indiglo
Dragon D. Luffy
Soneji
Quin
a2thezebra
thellama73
Boomslang
Draconus
Scotty
Sloonei
sig
Red
Chaindeath isn't scum. If he were a baddie he would be acting quite differently, probably. The biggest kick in the teeth for him is probably not quoting and typing out half of what he was thinking, with the other half that would justify his rational kept in his brain rather than on the page. Shame on him. His crime family has sustained losses and while he would like to say that you've been involved in all of them it would seem that you are intent on killing me and having my family loose as a result. He is unsure on what else to say to convince you in particular but maybe when he gets to responding to the huge ISO on him you may find answers therein.Nerolunar wrote:@ Scotty A Sig lynch is fine, but Im not sure its that urgent anymore. This phase is already filled with discussion not orbiting Sig. I would much rather a confirmed scum to me, and that is Chaindeath. He reminds me of myself when I was scum in Arkham - the way my reads were all over the place and such.
I'm a character.Golden wrote:Indi's catch up is as fun as reading it all the first time.
I should just wait, but, you know... no self-control and all that. I see new posts and I'm driven to read them. There was some good stuff in there too. Chaindeath probably should have combined this one with the last one but his pulling of quotes was so far apart that he forgot this one existedNerolunar wrote:I can´t remember if there were other people online at the time. I asked Fuzz about this because IIRC he had not been very vocal on reads at the time. I wanted him to talk more and since he was online anyways I just asked him.Prisoner 509378 wrote:Checking Nerolunar's interactions with Fuzz:
I doubt Fuzz was the only person Nero happened to see online, so it could be noteworthy that he felt the need to prod him like this. It was his only such prod.Spoiler: show
This was Nero's only mention of Fuzz, and Fuzz never mentioned Nero in any non-OT text. It appears he voted early for ika on the day of their tally duel and the vote stayed there for the long haul. The total absence of interactivity, combined with an uninspiring vote and the specificity of the above prod choice make me willing to call Nerolunar a suspect. I could see him as a team mate of Fuzz.
Anyways, its confusing that all these prisoners have showed up. I would like you guys to only talk on topic and try to maximize town effort - It will be dificult to find scum if half of the thread is off topic or not helpful from now on. So help us hunt scum instead of running around verbally if you know what I mean. I mean no offense by this, obviously.
Chaindeath
I ask everyone to evaluate Chaindeaths posts and tell me how he can possibly be civ. Im so tunnel minded on this and it would be cool if other people would provide reads on him. Im interested to see why some of you are townreading him, because I simply can´t.
I assure you. I will not take it personally. If you are torn, id recommend lynching ika first. I don't think anybody could argue that I was one of the orchestrators of why ika is seen so badly. If you take this as some sort of bus attempt, go ahead and lynch me because I'm eager to flip town at this point. Maybe people will stop being so cocky.indiglo wrote:The only bad thing is that if Quin is lynched, I will miss him. So, if it comes down to that, it will be nothing personal Quin.
He is unsure of weather you are referring to your own lynch or your vote. He doesn't want to see you go if that's what you're asking but if it's about trying to lych Scotty then I don't think it would be a bad move, probably. He isn't particularly fond of this phrase from Scotty "Quin wrote:What do you have to say to my lynch chain? Specifically where I mention you and golden. I haven't got a clue how to do hyperlinks, but it's the first post on page 99.Sloonei wrote:How do you plan to use your time in this free thread?Prisoner 640326 wrote:I didn't think that far ahead I'm afraid.
), at the same time, we've got all of tomorrow - which if we just count the last hour that's enough time for all of us to change our votes at least 35 times. 
The lynch train was my post where I mentioned lynching Scotty, Golden, Sloonei and Nero on page 99.chaindeath wrote:He is unsure of weather you are referring to your own lynch or your vote. He doesn't want to see you go if that's what you're asking but if it's about trying to lych Scotty then I don't think it would be a bad move, probably. He isn't particularly fond of this phrase from Scotty "Quin wrote:What do you have to say to my lynch chain? Specifically where I mention you and golden. I haven't got a clue how to do hyperlinks, but it's the first post on page 99.Sloonei wrote:How do you plan to use your time in this free thread?Prisoner 640326 wrote:I didn't think that far ahead I'm afraid.
Oh man I want to lynch you. Teacher! Teacher! May I vote twice, like the Warden? I'll be a good boy, I swear!"
If this isn't what you're looking for Quin let him know.
Of course, changeable votes and all that.
If ika is lynched, I will miss him too. If he's somehow town, I will be so demoralized, it will be hard to play. But the fact of the matter is, if I think he's scum I gotta push it and I think he is right now for the reasons I've said.indiglo wrote:The only bad thing is that if Quin is lynched, I will miss him. So, if it comes down to that, it will be nothing personal Quin.
I love you. Its going ot be sad when i do flip town. but people should then leave you uncontested for townSilverwolf wrote:If ika is lynched, I will miss him too. If he's somehow town, I will be so demoralized, it will be hard to play. But the fact of the matter is, if I think he's scum I gotta push it and I think he is right now for the reasons I've said.indiglo wrote:The only bad thing is that if Quin is lynched, I will miss him. So, if it comes down to that, it will be nothing personal Quin.
Makes me sad but that's mafia for you.
ika
silverSilverwolf wrote:ika
I'm glad we found each other.ika wrote:silverSilverwolf wrote:ika
I love you, your the best person i have ever met and that even in the worst of times you were there for me. Your truly an amazing person and i would pick you every time. I love you.
