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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:19 pm
by Wiml
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:59 am
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 8:21 am @Lime Coke what's your read on me?
I think you're just town struggling to get into the game with your issues. It reminds me of Last Will where you couldn't get your feet under you and it made you look awful, but once you actually got your footing you played extremely well.
Like I think I get why Esooa is sus of you, but I'm fine with giving you 1 more day so you can bounce back strongly.
Thanks. I think this explanation at least makes sense of my concerns wrt your treatment of me this game so I'm fine with this.

Also I'm pretty sure Esooa has mostly dropped her reason for scumreading me now that I've explained everything fully anyway.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:36 pm
by NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 2:16 pm
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:58 am
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:40 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:38 am
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 11:37 am Unrelated but wtf was Alison's D1 read on you that game lol.
I don't really remember her read so idk


Which townreads do you think are controversial?
"just want to make sure this doesn't slip through the cracks cus of notification shenanigans, i was wondering whether your read that we are town because of the level of comfort in revealing that nanook pees while he drives was from made or alison?"

And anything that isn't alexa/illario/Esooa tbh.

Speaking of illario if you also wouldn't mind explaining that read I'd appreciate it.
Lmao yeah that was an interesting one

I didn't like ilario's interactions around alexa early, there were a couple posts that showed a combination of awkwardness and self awareness that reads as scummy to me. I think his trans handling was kinda meh, but that's harder to judge. I think he's mostly been pushing pro scum poe, although tbf he's not alone in that regard fmpov.

Its a bit of an ego tunnel atp I guess but I don't really care


Mac had a townie eod1, and I think the work he's done today is largely out of his scumrange. That may be a bit of an exaggeration, and the counterargument is that if he's mafia here he's likely trying his ass off given the playerlist, but yeah, I think given his reads and his play he's probably just town

Ender is a bit of a lazier read tbh, he reads similar to his play in scythe to me, and I have a decent record of correctly tolerating him, so I just locked it in.
Thanks. Wrt illario he has a very distinct dynamic with alexa and they're pretty much like mafia best buds in that regard and interwine their play a lot (source: having played with them a lot) and in the nicest way possible he's known for having really wild reads.

Mac's EoD was towny to me pretty much solely because I think he had a very real chance to get me flipped and decided not to (especially when Trans flipping town would be a bad look for him anyway). Tbh I don’t see really see where you're coming from with your point about his D2 though, I think it's been really wolfy tbh. Would you mind expanding on your read?

Tbh I pretty much agree exactly with what you've said about Ender, I'm just not going to town lock him over it.
I don't really see how you could reasonably scumread mac for his play today lol

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:56 pm
by Wiml
Honestly, alexa is my top town now. I don't want to go into it too heavily because it's sort of icky but I'd be really surprised if she could fake the reaction to me earlier as well as the subsequent stuff.

She's also towny outside of that, it's just the thing that pretty much eliminates any doubts I have right now.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 3:57 pm
by Wiml
@alexa still 100% on illario and comfortable leaving him being lock town as your legacy?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:03 pm
by Wiml
I'm like 90% on illario being town even with the knock on my confidence earlier.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:04 pm
by alexa
oh wait EOD here is in 2 hours isn't it

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:04 pm
by alexa
yes im completely confident on ilario town

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:06 pm
by alexa
Lime Coke wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:55 am I fell asleep and I'm probably going back because it's late but I want to respond to-

@MacDougall

I know you asked Illario this, but I'd also 100% take blame if I were wrong on Alexa this game.
And if Alexa is scum this game, all of this hard shielding bullshit you'll never see again on any mafia site that exists.

You flat out have my word on that. I'm willing to bet the game that she's town here.
this makes me tinfoily of LK but also i don't know if he'd go THISSS far in pocketing me as scum

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:08 pm
by alexa
MacDougall wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:22 am
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 5:18 am Like NANOOK has been riding a ilario wolf read from one post into the game it just feels like he came to “ilario is a wolf” then tried to justify it rather than reading posts and trying to read him
He didn't actually. He ironically started scumreading him because Ilario was pushing you who he has been townreading since your entry. If Ilario was a wolf what tactics would you expect him to use to pocket you?
he usually pushes on me then comes around to townreading me (which he unironically did this game) but he's also obvious villager this game so shrug

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:09 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:04 pm yes im completely confident on ilario town
Confident to leave it as like a 100% lock in legacy?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:10 pm
by alexa
wiml why did you get tilted again around page 92?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:10 pm
by alexa
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:09 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:04 pm yes im completely confident on ilario town
Confident to leave it as like a 100% lock in legacy?
yes but re-val him if he makes lylo

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:11 pm
by alexa
(actually i don't even know if i'd re-val him i just don't feel like spot-checking his iso to be 100% sure so i'll say 99%)

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:12 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:10 pm wiml why did you get tilted again around page 92?
Was is the tilted that I said don't read into?

I don't want dirty townreads from explaining so I'm not going to lol.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:12 pm
by alexa
oh okay i just got confused why you were in the first place

also can you explain your confidence in your Mac scumread?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:13 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:10 pm
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:09 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:04 pm yes im completely confident on ilario town
Confident to leave it as like a 100% lock in legacy?
yes but re-val him if he makes lylo
Thanks. This makes me comfortable enough to lock him in without needing to spend ages just fully ISOing him.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:18 pm
by alexa
lol i've apparently clicked on the post history for everyone except ilario if that shows my relative confidence level :P

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:19 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Who we choppin boys

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:20 pm
by alexa
[VOTE: LIME COKE] aubergine

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:23 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:12 pm oh okay i just got confused why you were in the first place

also can you explain your confidence in your Mac scumread?
I still think he's a wolf but I'm having more doubts than I was earlier.

If I vote elsewhere today it'll probably be Nook or TSP, whichever looks more likely to be a wolf once I'm done with ISOing them.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:24 pm
by alexa
not sure if i'm committed to that vote

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:24 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:20 pm [VOTE: LIME COKE] aubergine
Convince me please.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:24 pm
by alexa
[VOTE: nanook] aubergine

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:25 pm
by alexa
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:24 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:20 pm [VOTE: LIME COKE] aubergine
Convince me please.
i'm going through his ISO and not convinced at all now

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:25 pm
by Wiml
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:24 pm
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:20 pm [VOTE: LIME COKE] aubergine
Convince me please.
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:24 pm [VOTE: nanook] aubergine
Convincing me 101 lol.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:27 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I’m totally down for kicking the can down the road

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:27 pm
by alexa
Mac is supposed to bring us pelts by now is all i can say

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:28 pm
by Wiml
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 9:18 pm @ilario

Why did you out a townread on me?
I get strong feelings from this post but I'm not sure what to make of it.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:30 pm
by Wiml
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:24 pm
Transcend wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:16 pm brad why are you voting ilario
Because Illario does whatever he can to NOT townread me when he and I are town. Even when I'm obvious as fuck town through a WHOLE game, he'll keep me at null and refuse to move me.
This game he started off with a townread on me. That actually caught me off guard and pinged me.
This is towny actually.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:33 pm
by Wiml
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm @Alison

Wait, legitimate question. Scoring out of 10, what is my wolf game?
2.
Yeah, exactly, you have like no reason to have any paranoia on me.
@alexa thoughts on this?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:36 pm
by Wiml
Honestly LC's ISO so far is actually really solid.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:36 pm
by alexa
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:33 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm @Alison

Wait, legitimate question. Scoring out of 10, what is my wolf game?
2.
Yeah, exactly, you have like no reason to have any paranoia on me.
@alexa thoughts on this?
it sounds confident, and i know he lacks confidence in his scum play, so it's probably a good look

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:39 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:36 pm
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:33 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:42 pm
Alison wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:41 pm
Lime Coke wrote: Thu Jul 29, 2021 10:40 pm @Alison

Wait, legitimate question. Scoring out of 10, what is my wolf game?
2.
Yeah, exactly, you have like no reason to have any paranoia on me.
@alexa thoughts on this?
it sounds confident, and i know he lacks confidence in his scum play, so it's probably a good look
It reminded me a lot of his mindset when he gets angry over being scumread but without the performativeness and shouting which I found towny.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:40 pm
by alexa
@Wiml what do you think of him compared to his scum game JOATed? https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... 7&sr=posts
he gets angry there but maybe in a more performative way?

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:42 pm
by Wiml
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alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:40 pm @Wiml what do you think of him compared to his scum game JOATed? https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/searc ... 7&sr=posts
he gets angry there but maybe in a more performative way?
Wow his reaction to pressure that game is awful lol.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 pm
by Wiml
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Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:43 pm
by Wiml
It's a link to my wolfchat with Mac.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:49 pm
by Wiml
alexa counter-question while I'm still reading: do you agree with my take about his reads being much less passionate as scum?

I think in the wolf game he noticeably doesn't have that same degree of emotional investment in his reads that he has here.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:50 pm
by alexa
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:49 pm alexa counter-question while I'm still reading: do you agree with my take about his reads being much less passionate as scum?

I think in the wolf game he noticeably doesn't have that same degree of emotional investment in his reads that he has here.
in general yeah
i misread him for this in deck mafia though but yeah

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm
by Wiml
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:50 pm
Wiml wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:49 pm alexa counter-question while I'm still reading: do you agree with my take about his reads being much less passionate as scum?

I think in the wolf game he noticeably doesn't have that same degree of emotional investment in his reads that he has here.
in general yeah
i misread him for this in deck mafia though but yeah
Yeah so did I lol.

I think that was an off town game of his more than anything though.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm
by Lime Coke
Alright I'm here until deadline.

Let's do this.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm
by ilario
Wiml shoulda just listened to what I was saying earlier, fwiw ur probs more similar to Alexa than you are to bk in style

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:53 pm
by alexa
brad why don't have you as obvious town .-.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:53 pm
by alexa
ilario wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm Wiml shoulda just listened to what I was saying earlier, fwiw ur probs more similar to Alexa than you are to bk in style
about??

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:53 pm
by ilario
Imo

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:54 pm
by Lime Coke
Deck Mafia 2 was a different type of town game for me, but at the least that's showing that I can play differently as town.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:54 pm
by ilario
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:53 pm
ilario wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm Wiml shoulda just listened to what I was saying earlier, fwiw ur probs more similar to Alexa than you are to bk in style
about??
To ignore the pressure and just focus on solving
He’s most towniest when he’s just analyzing other slots

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:54 pm
by Lime Coke
alexa wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:53 pm brad why don't have you as obvious town .-.
You tell me. 😥

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:55 pm
by Wiml
ilario wrote: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:52 pm Wiml shoulda just listened to what I was saying earlier, fwiw ur probs more similar to Alexa than you are to bk in style
I've forgotten what you were saying earlier tbh which is probably not a good indicator of me listening to it oops.

My playstyle gets compared to Esooa's a lot as well lol.

Re: Buckets: War of the GOATs [Day 2]

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2021 4:55 pm
by alexa
i dunno ithink brad's approach to matt day one was pretty towny ??