Re: Champions 2019 - Crisis on The Syndicate [Night 3]
Posted: Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:25 pm
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Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
https://www.mafiathesyndicate.com/
I didn't though.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:16 pmI expect you to have read sig's single day 2 post, it was a pretty big dealspeedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:13 pmAnd you expect me to have read any of those posts... why?sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:09 pmYea it reeks for speed honestly. I've been going after this and specifically this role forever.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:07 pmSaitama is exactly the role sig said he thought Mac was though back on d2 and the one that makes sense with all the theories. But ok.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:01 pmJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:58 pmThis is actually a terrible look for Speed.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:47 pm Hey guys just wanna catch up here a bitty bit.
Mac is still a person who could survive a nightkill but isn't who sig 'slipped' him to be? Or even on the same team?
How would we parse that? My sig suspicion remains independent of the 'slip', but it's a lot weaker without it.I'm not concerned about that. I've kept up with the game enough to think Mac was going to flip Anti-Monitor. I was surprised to see Saitama.
I skimmed Dizzy's post, then voted. After the lynch, I saw Sloonei and Juliets having a conversation like this:
"Sloonei is still a prime suspect."
"I don't get it, why?"
And I'm like WTF did something not go as planned? Mac seems to have flipped scum. What's going on?
So I asked.
Great distancing. Keep it up while I bus you.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:16 pm100% falseJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:12 pmI want to lynch you. Your argument is invalid.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:43 pm Anyone that still wants to turn around and just lunch me after a combination of being on mac forever. And probably being pushed by his teammates plus the fact the scum read on me is bad to begin with. Anyone who wants to focus on me is probably scum over Mac and his team.
No town role could know what you knew.
Also umm did you miss the main fabric of my case?
Like literally most of it.
1. I started shit before d2
2. The click happened with the fact I was silenced who silences people? Hmmmm saitmay which is where it came from.
3. I didn't even touch on the kill during my big post that was later as an extra throw on.
If that was a main thing. sure I'd see it but it wasnt. Again this is a dumb reason to lock wolf me and not only that completely wrong.
Given how many times you've played with me that should be obvious, so your either being willfully blind since your mafia or just tunneling like crazy
I don't care about meta here at all, but I will say that your repeated pleas have actually done something for me in terms of the chance that you are town who just figured stuff out from being targeted/guessing mac was targeted/maybe having an info role. I'm not dismissing that possibility and your... dare I call it AtE... is kinda working on me lol. I think the probability is much higher that you're just scum, but I'm doing my best to think critically and reconsider the evidence here.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:22 pm If yall are so so so so certain of me being a baddie off of a fake slip and refuse to see meta then whatever your most likely mafia or just not willing to listen. But, literally like look at the sum of my gameplay ignore the slip and see what you see.
Since this "slip" was the reasoning for many votes many of which I suspect were mafia members from both teams who wanted me gone. At the very least they're from macs team.
OK you might actually be derpcleared.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:26 pmI didn't though.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:16 pmI expect you to have read sig's single day 2 post, it was a pretty big dealspeedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:13 pmAnd you expect me to have read any of those posts... why?sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:09 pmYea it reeks for speed honestly. I've been going after this and specifically this role forever.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:07 pmSaitama is exactly the role sig said he thought Mac was though back on d2 and the one that makes sense with all the theories. But ok.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:01 pmI'm not concerned about that. I've kept up with the game enough to think Mac was going to flip Anti-Monitor. I was surprised to see Saitama.
I skimmed Dizzy's post, then voted. After the lynch, I saw Sloonei and Juliets having a conversation like this:
"Sloonei is still a prime suspect."
"I don't get it, why?"
And I'm like WTF did something not go as planned? Mac seems to have flipped scum. What's going on?
So I asked.
Cause
And why can't Epi be on Mac's team?Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:29 pmCause
1) If you were Sig’s buddy, you would know I’m town and this recurring song would be an attempt to wifom me into townreading you, which I do t think you have the time to come up with given your effort level this game.
2) If you were Sig’s buddy, you wouldn’t defend him after I started fitting Speed for a noose over him doing exactly that.
Yeah, well, I find it possible he's a Mac teammate who saw the way the wind was blowing and figured he should look like he was all in on lynching Mac either way.
Town. Reasons well documented.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:33 pm Hey @Sloonei
Sig is a foregone conclusion.
I wanna know what you think about Turnip Head.![]()
Uh no I mean I think you’re town but no this is wrongsig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:23 pmIt should to a large degree sinxe my mac read predated the whole tmi nonesense.NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:20 pmYou know this doesn’t clear you from being with the rabies team right?sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 10:43 pm Anyone that still wants to turn around and just lunch me after a combination of being on mac forever. And probably being pushed by his teammates plus the fact the scum read on me is bad to begin with. Anyone who wants to focus on me is probably scum over Mac and his team.
Though I also stand by what I've always said the reasoning is weak paired with a major point against me was my d2 vote and ignoring radish.
Which I did do mainly in my big post but that was because I was pursuing mac who was nafia.
Wrong answer.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:35 pmTown. Reasons well documented.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:33 pm Hey @Sloonei
Sig is a foregone conclusion.
I wanna know what you think about Turnip Head.![]()
I have seen Epi as scum several times. I have in that time never seen Epi seriously bus a teammate. We were scum together one time in a game where literally everyone besides him was voting for me and he wouldn’t do it. Not saying he couldn’t. But it just seems unlikely in this case.
I mean really gets the WIFOM ball rolling on the Mac/Sloonei/TH/Juliets team thing.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:37 pmWrong answer.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:35 pmTown. Reasons well documented.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:33 pm Hey @Sloonei
Sig is a foregone conclusion.
I wanna know what you think about Turnip Head.![]()
I do not even know what you're talking about.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:38 pmDo not let me finally catch you over a lost cause.
I’m saying I’ve never caught you and TH is dead in the water. So if you’re a wolf, don’t let this be the reason I catch you. Bus the shit out of him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:39 pmI do not even know what you're talking about.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:38 pmDo not let me finally catch you over a lost cause.
Tony is good.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:37 pmI have seen Epi as scum several times. I have in that time never seen Epi seriously bus a teammate. We were scum together one time in a game where literally everyone besides him was voting for me and he wouldn’t do it. Not saying he couldn’t. But it just seems unlikely in this case.
I’ll let you know how I feel when I’ve had a look for myself.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:39 pmI’m saying I’ve never caught you and TH is dead in the water. So if you’re a wolf, don’t let this be the reason I catch you. Bus the shit out of him.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:39 pmI do not even know what you're talking about.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:38 pmDo not let me finally catch you over a lost cause.
I'll include you in non slip reasoning. But given 8 people on my wagon I'd say only 2 to 3, one whom I think is mafia, having a real reason is a bad look.
Plot twist: having to work on your Masters is secret code for being on the Master team. We’ve caught two of em.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:43 pm If not Sloonei or more likely not Juliets, what about that JaggedJimmyJay guy?
Been pretty nonimpactful and voted Sig.
(Lest we forget, we’re still lynching Sig tomorrow. I’m just more interested in hunting for the Master team atm.)
Wtfspeedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:26 pmI didn't though.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:16 pmI expect you to have read sig's single day 2 post, it was a pretty big dealspeedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:13 pmAnd you expect me to have read any of those posts... why?sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:09 pmYea it reeks for speed honestly. I've been going after this and specifically this role forever.nutella wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:07 pmSaitama is exactly the role sig said he thought Mac was though back on d2 and the one that makes sense with all the theories. But ok.speedchuck wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:01 pmI'm not concerned about that. I've kept up with the game enough to think Mac was going to flip Anti-Monitor. I was surprised to see Saitama.
I skimmed Dizzy's post, then voted. After the lynch, I saw Sloonei and Juliets having a conversation like this:
"Sloonei is still a prime suspect."
"I don't get it, why?"
And I'm like WTF did something not go as planned? Mac seems to have flipped scum. What's going on?
So I asked.
Is this a slip? Not his, but the other scum faction.MacDougall wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 7:14 pmThe primary reasons for reading Sig as scum are by virtue of knowing I am scum, which I am not and through interactions with dead scum, which I agree look bad but I think Jack and a few others look bad by this measure too.
Jack is revelling in this dichotomy and has somehow skated by again. I think he's bad and fostering this false dichotomy. If Sig is not Jack's partner then he is not Mafia, and I don't think Jack would be playing this way if his partner was up for lynch.
Sig is right about how it's strange that people who have tunneled me are now voting him. It reminds me of another game I played where the Mafia kept the primary mislynch bait alive and kept knocking off other civilians. I think that lynching Sig is being led by the other scum faction.
From this answer alone I'm going to say that Sloonei or TH are not w/w. I'm willing to bet exactly one of them is on Mac's team and not both.Sloonei wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:35 pmTown. Reasons well documented.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:33 pm Hey @Sloonei
Sig is a foregone conclusion.
I wanna know what you think about Turnip Head.![]()
I’m more scared about the other role on that team.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:45 pm Don’t nightkill Sig. 50% chance he’s bulletproof.
Hmm ok I'll take your word for itTonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:37 pmI have seen Epi as scum several times. I have in that time never seen Epi seriously bus a teammate. We were scum together one time in a game where literally everyone besides him was voting for me and he wouldn’t do it. Not saying he couldn’t. But it just seems unlikely in this case.
But Sig has votes.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:49 pmI’m more scared about the other role on that team.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:45 pm Don’t nightkill Sig. 50% chance he’s bulletproof.
DO NOT SHOOT AT SIG. ty
Is that the one that’s aliveJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:52 pmBut Sig has votes.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:49 pmI’m more scared about the other role on that team.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:45 pm Don’t nightkill Sig. 50% chance he’s bulletproof.
DO NOT SHOOT AT SIG. ty
Update: correct.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:53 pmIs that the one that’s aliveJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:52 pmBut Sig has votes.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:49 pmI’m more scared about the other role on that team.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:45 pm Don’t nightkill Sig. 50% chance he’s bulletproof.
DO NOT SHOOT AT SIG. ty
Didn’t that one die
And absolutely none of that says what role Mac is or that he was targeted for a kill.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:51 pm Also re roles I'm not saying I had one or jad info but I'm dispelling this right now since it really seems like ppl here are just flat out ignoring shit to push my lybch.
You could.
1. Cop check mac
2. Track Mac
3. Track his killer
4. Watch mac
5. Use an item.
6. Watch myself
There off the top of my head 6 things which is like 7 roles and the one item.
So let's dispel the whole TMI shit. Since really that's shit that multiple people are going back to.
On top of that and I feel like a broken clock here. Is the meta thinG around the slip. Which is a big thing and falls within civ meta.
I'll address sloonie post tomorrow and clear that angle up as well.
Linki: lots of them.
Oh yeah nm.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:53 pmIs that the one that’s aliveJackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:52 pmBut Sig has votes.TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:49 pmI’m more scared about the other role on that team.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:45 pm Don’t nightkill Sig. 50% chance he’s bulletproof.
DO NOT SHOOT AT SIG. ty
Didn’t that one die
You heard it here first, folks.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:53 pm Dom switch to me was hella bad his response to my call out was even worse.
Jack is probably mafia also given tone and general behavior. On top of the fact he's just decided to tunnel on me for no good reason which in turn almost saved Mac.
I never should've dropped my early jack suspicion but whatever.
Potential teammates prior to analyzing are people who saved mac yesterday.
Again totally wrong, theres no way you arent mafia and trying to get a role out of me at this point. Like utilize some commone sense and see how dots can he connected especially given I was already pursuing him.Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:54 pmAnd absolutely none of that says what role Mac is or that he was targeted for a kill.sig wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:51 pm Also re roles I'm not saying I had one or jad info but I'm dispelling this right now since it really seems like ppl here are just flat out ignoring shit to push my lybch.
You could.
1. Cop check mac
2. Track Mac
3. Track his killer
4. Watch mac
5. Use an item.
6. Watch myself
There off the top of my head 6 things which is like 7 roles and the one item.
So let's dispel the whole TMI shit. Since really that's shit that multiple people are going back to.
On top of that and I feel like a broken clock here. Is the meta thinG around the slip. Which is a big thing and falls within civ meta.
I'll address sloonie post tomorrow and clear that angle up as well.
Linki: lots of them.
Why not? I’m saying all the stuff about your “meta” or “slipping” and all the stuff other people are using is irrelevant to my suspicion. If anything I’m agreeing with your point here: you’re a suspect, just not for the reasons everyone else is citing.