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Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:53 am**

thundercant can't be the gambit demon because nothing mentions deals (in my cop result)

cant be the hidden 3p because it doesnt make sense to only put a 3p that can self-protect once and give it nothing else too

he could be the last main pack wolf, i suppose he could be the traitor, i think obliterator

thundercat confirmed mafia, i suggest yeeting there, unless something new comes up that reveals another mafia

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:54 am**

{vote]Thunderbloke[/vote]

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:55 am**

and reminder that i have green peeks on nova and kylemii

if the gambit demon claimed to be nova that was a lie, i found no secrets on nova

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:56 am**

unless roleblocked lol

i cant tell the difference between a green peek and getting roleblocked by design of the setup i believe

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:57 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:13 am im the flavor cop

my role discovers secrets as written in the op. no town roles has secrets except maybe the secret town role

n1 - polypies

i made it abundantly clear that he was scum. i had his exact role. i hinted at it pretty hard, voting him for no reason, starting the day with "poly scum" and voting him repeatedly. i didnt reazlie dead ppl get janitored. so i left hints.

n2 - nova

no result. i thought this meant i was roleblocked so i didnt hint. it took me time to realize that me getting no result could mean i got roleblocked, but could also mean i peeked town. but he's mech clear town unless i was redirected / godfather shenanigans

n3 - kylemii

same like. i said they're both town to hint as tho i have green peeks on them, still not rly realizing that dead ppl get anitored

n4 - thundercat

(paraphrased)

he can survive the first attempt on his life. when he loses this first life, he can vanish a player for one day and one night. this activates the next day after this thing triggering. he must predesignate a target for this. he can self-target

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a bit weird to me because that appears to be myo's role, he did survive the yeet. i might have been redirected. but no player vanished this day. so i dunno

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in conculsion:

nova, kylemii - almost certainly town

thundercat - almost certainly scum

myo - most likely scum aswell? the mayor flavor doesnt make sense to me. it says the mayor stops the yeet. myo SURVIVED the yeet.

This is interesting

Because Thundercat's flavor ("survives the first attempt on your life") seems like what happened with Myo. Is it possible that you got redirected onto Myo?

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:57 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:18 am i hate people who survive yeets. thats bastard in my standard of mafia

its ... not rly fair when we have no KP

(looking at thundercat and myo)

We do have a few non-exe ways of putting forward town KP, but yeah, I'd expect this kind of thing to be one shot.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:00 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:36 am wait

myo isnt in the poll

I KNEW IT I WAS REDIRECTED

look, myo isnt in the poll

he vanished

just like i said about thundercat's role

i was redirected to myo last night

oh so it was a redirect, I see

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:00 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:36 am oh wait its turnip head lmao

just woke up

oh never mind

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:01 am**

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:01 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:37 am i dont think you were redirected, no one was vanished (unless one of made/thunal is secretly vanished and not dead and thats what it looks like. that would be really bastard lol)

Yeah, that's a good point.

So Thundercat can "survive the first attempt on their life" and Myo is unexeable at least once. I don't believe both are town here.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:03 am**

It’s impossible for them to both be town lol

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:04 am**

i just need to get this out of my system

we (the town) shouldnt lose because of martin being greedy with the gambit demon and macdougall shooting chuck. these were our only mistakes, literally everything else was flawless. it doesnt make sense for us to lose this game when we play flawlessly

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:04 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:40 am i may have indirectly slipped gambit demon id by omission (or at least narrowed down to like 2 ppl) in my poe post a bit ago, so have fun puzzling that out but i'll leave it to alison to decide whether to actually reveal

I'm weighing that atm.

GD claims to me that they've fulfilled their win condition now and plan to chill and townside. I don't think we ever exe them, but it might be correct to out them. I don't think they can offer any more deals once their win con has been achieved (nor should people take any deals offered in case of *shenanigans*), and they don't count for parity, so if Obliterator kills them it's fine with us right?

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:05 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:04 am
nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:40 am i may have indirectly slipped gambit demon id by omission (or at least narrowed down to like 2 ppl) in my poe post a bit ago, so have fun puzzling that out but i'll leave it to alison to decide whether to actually reveal
I'm weighing that atm.

GD claims to me that they've fulfilled their win condition now and plan to chill and townside. I don't think we ever exe them, but it might be correct to out them. I don't think they can offer any more deals once their win con has been achieved (nor should people take any deals offered in case of *shenanigans*), and they don't count for parity, so if Obliterator kills them it's fine with us right?

yea that would be good

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:05 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:04 am i just need to get this out of my system

we (the town) shouldnt lose because of martin being greedy with the gambit demon and macdougall shooting chuck. these were our only mistakes, literally everything else was flawless. it doesnt make sense for us to lose this game when we play flawlessly

I don't understand why you're worried about losing? nanook has outed a red check on Thundercat, we're still up by a billion numbers.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:06 am**

I'll give the GD one chance to object in BTSC, in case they have a compelling reason to keep them hidden. Else I'm outing them.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:06 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:05 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:04 am i just need to get this out of my system

we (the town) shouldnt lose because of martin being greedy with the gambit demon and macdougall shooting chuck. these were our only mistakes, literally everything else was flawless. it doesnt make sense for us to lose this game when we play flawlessly
I don't understand why you're worried about losing? nanook has outed a red check on Thundercat, we're still up by a billion numbers.

its 9 v 5, with thundercat needing to be yeeted twice its 9 v 6, mafia has 2 KP per night out of the sudden + they have the odd-night obliterator anti-claim that is going to kill me tonight. 3 towns will die tonight and no scum will get yeeted because of lynchproof roles

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:07 am**

(and i outed the red peek btw, nanook has stayed silent)

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:07 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:45 am martin claimed that he thinks nanook is the auto-roleblocker

not sure if i should put the effort to re-read his stuff and check if that makes sense and nook could be fakeclaiming as scum now

or i shouldnt cuz it might let the obliterator anti claim some more

you are once again misremembering things, martin said SSF was autoblocker

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:07 am**

NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:38 am Thundercat where’d you go

Check scum chat I’m yelling at you to CC

This reads like a red check on TC.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:08 am**

It should read like a joke

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:09 am**

Actually it is kind of weird that sprityo just slaps "one-shot can't be exed" on two scum. It's not a very fun mechanic because they're just going to get exed again tomorrow but I guess it's a way of balancing out the plethora of town PR that we get + the Obliterator screwing them over even if they win.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:09 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:07 am
NANOOKTHEGREATANDFEARSOME wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:38 am Thundercat where’d you go

Check scum chat I’m yelling at you to CC
This reads like a red check on TC.

i claimed the red peek on thundercat in the post u quoted yourself earlier, there is no way its the town hidden role

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:10 am**

nutella wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:07 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 3:45 am martin claimed that he thinks nanook is the auto-roleblocker

not sure if i should put the effort to re-read his stuff and check if that makes sense and nook could be fakeclaiming as scum now

or i shouldnt cuz it might let the obliterator anti claim some more
you are once again misremembering things, martin said SSF was autoblocker

oh okay

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:11 am**

why can't every game be mountainous lol

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:12 am**

[v]Thundercat[/v]

I think this is the surest bet with the mech info we have

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:15 am**

@Thundercat @Turnip Head

we have mech info on you that points to you being scum - claim in full

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:15 am**

oh the GD is long con or 112 aren't they? leaning towards 112 since alison interacted with long con a bit more? hm. dunno

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:16 am**

Yeah it's Long Con/Grand Scheme.

I promised to wait for objections in BTSC but I really can't see the downside so I'll just do it now.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:16 am**

if its 112 this gets easier and i will feel more relaxed. i think we might make a flawless poe today

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:16 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:16 am Yeah it's Long Con/Grand Scheme.

I promised to wait for objections in BTSC but I really can't see the downside so I'll just do it now.

oh okay

i thought he's pretty towny lol i can never read LC

well then

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:17 am**

To confirm their identity I asked them to write a post that started with the phrase "personally, I think", and he wrote a post like "personally, I think dinner is the best meal" or something like that. He wanted me to take tier 3 and try to suicide a scum but I was too sus of traps to do that so I came up with my GD plan.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:19 am**

long con can u explain why martin died please?

also can i take a deal with u today? do u got any more of those?

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:19 am**

112 might be the traitor is my initial reaction. let me go over the playerlist again

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:20 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:16 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:16 am Yeah it's Long Con/Grand Scheme.

I promised to wait for objections in BTSC but I really can't see the downside so I'll just do it now.
oh okay

i thought he's pretty towny lol i can never read LC

well then

Well he was townsiding

He actually picked me as the first bargain target because I correctly called him out as 3P lol.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:23 am**

[VOTE: thundercat] aubergine

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:24 am**

love getting mechanically cleared by multiple sources and never having to defend myself even once

luigi wins by doing nothing

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:24 am**

I think if nook/tutuu/kylemii/nova are all town then we have legitimate auto?

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:24 am**

tutuu
nova (could be scum if i was roleblocked or redirected)
kylemii (could be scum if i was roleblocked or redirected)

nutella
alison
KZA - believable oracle claim

sig - i personally townread due to dayplay, nutella thinks otherwise
112 - question mark
Nanook - perhaps towny due to his mech claims + macdougall townreading him, but could be scum due to day play

joe who? - scum due to lack of town day play
myo - survived yeet - mayor or scum
thundercat - confirmed non-3p mafia
Long Con - gambit demon

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:24 am**

might be auspicious to avoid any further claims, i'm nervous about late game obliterator bullshit

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:25 am**

Was there talk of a mafia roleblocker earlier, due to townie people being roleblocked? Is that accounted for on the days that tutuu checked nova/kyle?

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:25 am**

UNLESS

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:26 am**

Kylemii wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:24 am might be auspicious to avoid any further claims, i'm nervous about late game obliterator bullshit

Well I think TC and TH should still claim, but yeah, nook should probably not clarify if he's tracker or watcher, and no other claims should happen since some kind of mass soupkill is one of the main ways we lose from this position.

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:27 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:25 am Was there talk of a mafia roleblocker earlier, due to townie people being roleblocked? Is that accounted for on the days that tutuu checked nova/kyle?

welll martin was roleblocked but he believes flanders was the town auto roleblocker

otherwise i dunno

its not thundercat he has no roleblocking stuff. i kinda doubt the hidden 3p also has any

so the traitor or the last main pack wolf could have a roleblock something something. shrug

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:28 am**

There's a chance that this is nook's desperate attempt to go deep by red checking his teammate and claiming a janitored role, but Mac townread him and he's been generally townsiding with his votes so w/e

I trust nanook

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:28 am**

nevermind, they probably didn't kill KZA because KZA is a bomb for them

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:28 am**

tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:25 am Was there talk of a mafia roleblocker earlier, due to townie people being roleblocked? Is that accounted for on the days that tutuu checked nova/kyle?
welll martin was roleblocked but he believes flanders was the town auto roleblocker

otherwise i dunno

its not thundercat he has no roleblocking stuff. i kinda doubt the hidden 3p also has any

so the traitor or the last main pack wolf could have a roleblock something something. shrug

why would martin know that?

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:29 am**

Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:28 am
tutuu wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:27 am
Alison wrote: ↑Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:25 am Was there talk of a mafia roleblocker earlier, due to townie people being roleblocked? Is that accounted for on the days that tutuu checked nova/kyle?
welll martin was roleblocked but he believes flanders was the town auto roleblocker

otherwise i dunno

its not thundercat he has no roleblocking stuff. i kinda doubt the hidden 3p also has any

so the traitor or the last main pack wolf could have a roleblock something something. shrug
why would martin know that?

i dunno thats what he said. check one of his last posts, under the spoiler

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:34 am**

@Grand Scheme pls pls pls pls pls townside pls dont betray us alison helped u win pls pls help us win pls i love uuuuu

whoooos my favorite canadian? whooooooos the cutest Bane? its YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Posted: **Thu Dec 10, 2020 4:35 am**

MAN THIS IS FUCKED UP

I AM GETTING FUCKING FLASHBACKS

OF ANOTHER GAME

WHERE I FUCKING BEGGED LONG CON THE 3P TO TOWNSIDE

AND NANOOK HAD A MECH CLAIM THAT KILLED A MAFIA MEMBER

AND I WAS THE FUCKING COP

FUCK THIS. FUCK THIS. FUCK THIS

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