The Syndicate

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:19 pm God that was a confusing statement.

I still think jack is bad

I think you're wrong, I'm still sheeping you.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:19 pm God that was a confusing statement.

I still think jack is bad

I get it, but scum Urist messing up in that interaction is more likely than scum Jack

fwiw Marmot and NAA, both Jack and Urist have publically taken the line that their cross is probably the result of a host error

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:21 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:19 pm God that was a confusing statement.

I still think jack is bad

I think you're wrong, I'm still sheeping you.

I’m supposed to scare away the sheep, not bring them into the fold

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:22 pm fwiw Marmot and NAA, both Jack and Urist have publically taken the line that their cross is probably the result of a host error

the host will never publicly clarify the truth

people town-read mech confusion

ez pz

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:22 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:21 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:19 pm God that was a confusing statement.

I still think jack is bad

I think you're wrong, I'm still sheeping you.

I’m supposed to scare away the sheep, not bring them into the fold

I told you, if you're mafia, I think it's fair to concede. Even though I still think we should have killed you D1.

syn, why is jack scum over urist?

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:20 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:15 pm Why do you think Urist is scum in the Urist/Jack cc when Jack himself is even calling Urist town?

If I considered everyone's town reads, then the entire game is town. Good solve.

I don't recall seeing this from Jack, but I'll take your word that it happened post-mech talk.

My point is that Jack and Urist entered a CC. Jack then decided that Urist was truthful and called it a day.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:52 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:51 pm Urist, are you Paladin 3?

Paladin 2 is also a block…

Yes, but Paladin 3 informs the blockee they were blocked.
Hence, you saying you don’t know if you were blocked or not, and urist saying you should know you were blocked..

If he used Pal3. If he used Pal2, I wouldn’t.

You’re making a claim for Urist. Urist claimed a block on me AFTER I said I didn’t know if I was blocked or not so if Urist was gonna say I was mechanically outted as lying, he could have said it then.

Maybe he’ll come back and say so (a lie or a host error) but I doubt it cause host error isn’t that common and Urist likely town.

If you think they're both wolves, that's fine, but assuming that you don't why do you take away from this interaction between Urist and Jack that Urist is scum and Jack is town when Jack himself, who has more info in this CC than any of us do, is calling Urist town from it?

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:21 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:19 pm God that was a confusing statement.

I still think jack is bad

I get it, but scum Urist messing up in that interaction is more likely than scum Jack

Yeah, I see no world in which jack and urist are W/w

However, if we assume the host made an error and we just believe that jack was successfully blocked by Urist, my feeling still stands that jack has some bad equity from ye olde Dunya days

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:22 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:21 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:19 pm God that was a confusing statement.

I still think jack is bad

I think you're wrong, I'm still sheeping you.

I’m supposed to scare away the sheep, not bring them into the fold

I told you, if you're mafia, I think it's fair to concede. Even though I still think we should have killed you D1.

who are you

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:22 pm fwiw Marmot and NAA, both Jack and Urist have publically taken the line that their cross is probably the result of a host error

I'm willing to wait for more info from Urist before proceeding on that front, but NAA's stance is something I want to address now.

And if Urist doesn't respond we just turbo him into the sun.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:25 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:20 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:15 pm Why do you think Urist is scum in the Urist/Jack cc when Jack himself is even calling Urist town?

If I considered everyone's town reads, then the entire game is town. Good solve.

I don't recall seeing this from Jack, but I'll take your word that it happened post-mech talk.

My point is that Jack and Urist entered a CC. Jack then decided that Urist was truthful and called it a day.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:52 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:51 pm Urist, are you Paladin 3?

Paladin 2 is also a block…

Yes, but Paladin 3 informs the blockee they were blocked.
Hence, you saying you don’t know if you were blocked or not, and urist saying you should know you were blocked..

If he used Pal3. If he used Pal2, I wouldn’t.

You’re making a claim for Urist. Urist claimed a block on me AFTER I said I didn’t know if I was blocked or not so if Urist was gonna say I was mechanically outted as lying, he could have said it then.

Maybe he’ll come back and say so (a lie or a host error) but I doubt it cause host error isn’t that common and Urist likely town.

If you think they're both wolves, that's fine, but assuming that you don't why do you take away from this interaction between Urist and Jack that Urist is scum and Jack is town when Jack himself, who has more info in this CC than any of us do, is calling Urist town from it?

I don't take anything away from that particular interaction, notice my SoD position was kill LP, kill Urist... It's logical from town!jack perspective look for some sort of logic behind his impotence. Urist claiming a role block without explicitly saying Jack is outed is very understandable from Jack's perspective IF jack's results are as claimed.

maybe lp/wilgy/urist/x is a world

but who is x?

I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

I do think Wilgy is still a hit here.

Dunya was wrong about creature, but she even more certain about Wilgy.

My own isoing leads me to believe, especially from his D1, that he didn’t even know what reads he had.

I just want a bonafide hit today or else we’Re probably gonna lose this game.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

Let's try this.

I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:25 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:20 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:15 pm Why do you think Urist is scum in the Urist/Jack cc when Jack himself is even calling Urist town?

If I considered everyone's town reads, then the entire game is town. Good solve.

I don't recall seeing this from Jack, but I'll take your word that it happened post-mech talk.

My point is that Jack and Urist entered a CC. Jack then decided that Urist was truthful and called it a day.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:57 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:53 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:52 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:51 pm Urist, are you Paladin 3?

Paladin 2 is also a block…

Yes, but Paladin 3 informs the blockee they were blocked.
Hence, you saying you don’t know if you were blocked or not, and urist saying you should know you were blocked..

If he used Pal3. If he used Pal2, I wouldn’t.

You’re making a claim for Urist. Urist claimed a block on me AFTER I said I didn’t know if I was blocked or not so if Urist was gonna say I was mechanically outted as lying, he could have said it then.

Maybe he’ll come back and say so (a lie or a host error) but I doubt it cause host error isn’t that common and Urist likely town.

If you think they're both wolves, that's fine, but assuming that you don't why do you take away from this interaction between Urist and Jack that Urist is scum and Jack is town when Jack himself, who has more info in this CC than any of us do, is calling Urist town from it?

I don't take anything away from that particular interaction, notice my SoD position was kill LP, kill Urist... It's logical from town!jack perspective look for some sort of logic behind his impotence. Urist claiming a role block without explicitly saying Jack is outed is very understandable from Jack's perspective IF jack's results are as claimed.

Urist did immediately bring attention to it, however.

Urist wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:26 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:24 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 4:16 pm I just hate that it’s D3 and none of us have any info mech to talk about. Just that dya is a blocking god and NAA has poisoned someone in the POE.

I’ve failed 2 actions in a row. No idea if I was blocked or if I missed my die roll.

scum claim

This was like 5 posts after saying ‘The only play here is to kill LP’

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

All I’ve asked for you all game is explaining your reads, and you fail to do that, and everyone seems to just shrug and say that’s NAI or you’re town for it, but like..help us eliminate you from the POE

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:32 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

Let's try this.

I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.

I'm already committed to sheeping Scotty to victory or defeat. I think this town needs more followers right now.

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:34 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:32 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

Let's try this.

I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.

I'm already committed to sheeping Scotty to victory or defeat. I think this town needs more followers right now.

[VOTE: NAA] aubergine

Be a team player, not a sychophant

this is the point where naa self-votes to sheep scotty

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:34 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:32 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

Let's try this.

I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.

I'm already committed to sheeping Scotty to victory or defeat. I think this town needs more followers right now.

Why Scotty?

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:35 pm this is the point where naa self-votes to sheep scotty

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:33 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

All I’ve asked for you all game is explaining your reads, and you fail to do that, and everyone seems to just shrug and say that’s NAI or you’re town for it, but like..help us eliminate you from the POE

I'm not dying today.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:35 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:34 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:32 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

Let's try this.

I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.

I'm already committed to sheeping Scotty to victory or defeat. I think this town needs more followers right now.

Why Scotty?

Because town has consensus decided never to kill Scotty.

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:33 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm

Scotty wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm

NotAnAxehole wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.

This is where you would then add, “because…..”

I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.

All I’ve asked for you all game is explaining your reads, and you fail to do that, and everyone seems to just shrug and say that’s NAI or you’re town for it, but like..help us eliminate you from the POE

See, you want me to explain out of the idea that you might somehow be able to read me from the explanation, not because you care about the content. Your first thought isn't oh I'm interested because he might be right, your first thought is, please be polarized so that I can feel confident about my own solve.

idgi

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:25 pm syn, why is jack scum over urist?

i think they're both scum

Ok, I'll give you a DrWilgy case, tell me if you think I'm being genuine or not:

DrWilgy is barely playing, yet you can tell he's reading back if you go through his ISO there are several posts where he's not just directly talking about the currently active topic in the thread. When he does this, he's not exclusively doing this as a vanity search for his own name either.

DrWilgy doesn't seem to have an agenda to push, he comes to the thread without a clear idea of who he's going to push, or who he pushed in the past.

I think DrWilgy is obviously town.

Syn wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:16 pm Urist, Jack, and NAA are w/w/w and they're just going to push this toward an LP chop as the day goes on.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:18 pm

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:16 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:15 pm Why do you think Urist is scum in the Urist/Jack cc when Jack himself is even calling Urist town?

this actually isn't a bad take but I'm gonna leave NAA to explain

I'm curious to hear what Urist says, but based on what we've seen thus far, I read it as Jack trying to sweep it under the rug.

I am because I townread Urist for the claim and I know I’m town so someone is misinterpreting or mod error. I’ve read my discord 3 times and I don’t think I’m misinterpreting.

The idea that I’m w/w with Urist and he accidentally red peeked me is pretty funny though.

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:10 pm @TonyStarkPrime please tell me why you blocked me.

Thought you were wolf

Uh what the hell is going on

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:11 pm The idea that I’m w/w with Urist and he accidentally red peeked me is pretty funny though.

lp/dya/urist/jack is clearly the wolf team

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:13 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:10 pm @TonyStarkPrime please tell me why you blocked me.

Thought you were wolf

do you still think he's a wolf?

tsp you had marmot as your 3rd highest tr yesterday, what changed

Ah got it

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:15 pm tsp you had marmot as your 3rd highest tr yesterday, what changed

Dunya died

Also what no I didnt

Dolby wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:14 pm

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:13 pm

Marmot wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:10 pm @TonyStarkPrime please tell me why you blocked me.

Thought you were wolf

do you still think he's a wolf?

Actually yeah but it’s my secret read

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:15 pm Ah got it

I'm nott sure that you do

TonyStarkPrime wrote: ↑Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:15 pm Also what no I didnt

Case in point

I'm ngl I control fed your iso for marmot bc I thought it was a weird block but yeah marmot was 3rd biggest tr 2.5 hours before eod2

Who blocked TSP N1?

Your ISO just got a control feed from dolby so take that