The Syndicate

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:00 pm**

Muir Island

The X-mansion’s welcoming yet austere interior deteriorated around everyone, replaced with a cool Scottish sea breeze.

Dr. Moira MacTaggert, renowned geneticist, was there to welcome the arriving mutants.

“Welcome to the Muir Island Mutant Research Centre,” she said.

The Muir Island Mutant Research Centre, a stately technological marvel, home to many scientific wonders, stood behind her.

“We believe we have finally perfected a replacement mutant gene. We have spent years researching it, and we want it to be a boon to those poor unfortunate ones who...”

Moira turned her face aside for a moment to contain herself; that both years of pain and immediate rejoicing were roiling within her was clear.

“Those poor mutants who are a danger to themselves and others.”

Moira looked hopefully at the group.

“Would any one of you be keen on forsaking all inborn mutant abilities for something different- something helpful?”

It is now Night 2. You have 23 hours to send in your PMs.

Danger Room ID acquired: 014… Shadowcat

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:06 pm**

Sorry T-bird .

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:10 pm**

RIP Thunderbird. Had to vote for you to save my skin in this poll buddy.
I def will be looking at people who started harping on throwing votes on me, but I guess to the Baddies it didn't matter if either of us died.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:10 pm**

Mojo wrote:I voted for havok. I'd think that if he was wondering about the lynch being a tie that he'd have gone over the scenarios ahead of time and realized that he could have been outing important civvie roles if answered.

I really wish more people were participating....

You aren't clear here, but I assume you meant that "If I were a civvie" I would have gone over the scenarios ahead of time before asking my question. Is that correct? If it is, then using this same line of logic, why would I even ask the question if I were a baddie? I thought I had gone over all the scenarios before I asked that question. I guess I confused myself over the Sentinel's vote manipulation because when I asked the question, in my head I was thinking that if the lynch was a tie it would show to us that Wolverine and Cyclops were not involved and that other manipulations were at play. My mistake.

To be honest, I'm a little perplexed as to why anyone would think that a baddie would ask that question. What is the potential upside?

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:13 pm**

It seems like you weren't really looking at the outcome of your question from a civvie perspective. I'd think you're more likely to be a sentinel that a member of the brotherhood.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:15 pm**

RIP Thunderbird. It shows I voted already, however, I am not sure how that happened. I will change my vote when I am ready to vote for real.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:18 pm**

Why is it more likely that I would ask that question as The Sentinel rather than a civvie?

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:19 pm**

As has been pointed out already, The Sentinel's vote is worthless if it gets any lynch votes. So, why would the Sentinel do that?

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:19 pm**

Ughhhh RIP Thunderbird! Not going on hunches anymore...

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:22 pm**

A question for The Vision: You requested that someone place a vote on me "just in case" I am The Sentinel. Why not vote for me yourself instead of asking someone else to do it? I don't see anything wrong with the plan, I just wonder why you asked someone else to do it?

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:26 pm**

rip thunderbird

forsaking mutant abilities in order to obtain "something helpful" sounds kind of intriguing.

it sounds like a player would be trading their role powers in for something... maybe a new ability or an item/prize, if this is the case, there are basically 3 ways we could go about this, we could:

1. vote for someone we suspect of being malicious for the sake of removing their power at the cost of possibly giving them an advantage
2. vote for someone we trust in order to ensure "something helpful" stays in good hands at the cost of removing their power
3. we could just take volunteers i guess, this option has many dangers and advantages as well

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:28 pm**

RIP Thunderbird.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:33 pm**

damn sux to lose ya thunderbird u had a pretty cool role wish u had gotten to play more

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 7:50 pm**

Quicksilver wrote: If I were bad, why would I be putting myself front and center? I'd be sitting back and going with the flow this early of the game.

Well, there is no real way to verify this statement in a sock puppet game. Not all baddies sit back. So I am not sure why you're relying a bit on this logic.

Also guys, being honest me seeing a photo of an Indy that is a villain from the cartoon series I watched of X men just makes me inclined they are bad. I know I have said they are dangerous, but I need to separate my background of X Men from this game and play that way. I apologize for making people confused. I promise if you keep me around, I'm Civ and am trying to help. Don't let us be down another Civ.

Quicksilver wrote: you guys are making a bad mistake. Sigh.... 2 Civs down already. These baddies have this game in the bag...

I feel like you were trying to use emotional appeals to survive, and not the good kind. I understand why you feel the independents are bad by judging off of their part in the X-men cartoons, it makes sense, but apologizing for causing confusion? It feels like you're saying whatever you can to get people to listen. I personally, as a civ would not be apologizing for that. How do you know people are genuinely confused rather than purposely misinterpreting your posts? I never understand when people admit mistakes after they have been pressured and called out, it doesn't come across genuine to me. That's the problem and I know townies have emotions too but I am not feeling it.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:03 pm**

Havok wrote:Why is it more likely that I would ask that question as The Sentinel rather than a civvie?

This has been gone over previously. The vision made some really good points about it. I'm not going to repeat everything that has been said. I understand you don't agree, oh well.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:08 pm**

Havok wrote:A question for The Vision: You requested that someone place a vote on me "just in case" I am The Sentinel. Why not vote for me yourself instead of asking someone else to do it? I don't see anything wrong with the plan, I just wonder why you asked someone else to do it?

At the time, there were virtually no votes, so I felt I needed to use my vote on a more important matter, namely trying to get the lynch onto a baddie. My thing against you is in no way strong enough to warrant a lynch, and there are always people at the end of a lynch who dont want to touch the main votegetters, so I guessed someone would step up, and Mr. Mojo did. Hope that makes sense!

And this lynch was a bit crazy with all of those late seeming votes. I look forward to reading back on the thunder voters...

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:11 pm**

Havok wrote:Why is it more likely that I would ask that question as The Sentinel rather than a civvie?

Oy, ive been over this

Because only the sentinel, knowing his was worth 0 that day, would have noted that there a chance to figure out who cyclops was by asking about the tie.If you asked the tie question any other day, or if you werent a deathlok voter, I wouldnt have been pinged. See?

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:21 pm**

Rip Thunderbird.

I think banshee is right about the three different ways we could go with this thing. I usually play a cautious game but this time I'm ready to try new things so I'll volunteer if there is no one else that wants to forsake their mutant abilities. I'm going to vote for myself for the moment and see what the rest of you want to do.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:30 pm**

As for the poll, I am not sure who we should vote for suspect/trustspect (lol)

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:40 pm**

I'll volunteer myself also.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 8:53 pm**

That sucks, T-Bird

Speech is good, it was kinda funny seeing both Avalanche & I silenced (since I am guessing it was he who was also silenced). Wonder who got whom?

I will vote to give it to someone I feel good about, if they also want it. I am happy being a mutant and don't need or want anything different.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:03 pm**

I'm glad we've got volunteers - I'll keep my powers if at all possible, thank you very much

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:27 pm**

I don't mind trying the experiment on myself, but there are people volunteering I would be comfortable with Longshot also.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:27 pm**

*(Longshot) I forgot the parenthesis as I was talking as typing

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 9:38 pm**

I'd be cool with volunteering as well. I'm very curious about this.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 10:07 pm**

It is nice to be able to talk again.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:09 pm**

The Vision wrote:
Havok wrote:Why is it more likely that I would ask that question as The Sentinel rather than a civvie?
Oy, ive been over this

Because only the sentinel, knowing his was worth 0 that day, would have noted that there a chance to figure out who cyclops was by asking about the tie.If you asked the tie question any other day, or if you werent a deathlok voter, I wouldnt have been pinged. See?

Yes, you have been over it. I asked Mojo because I wanted to hear his answer. You didn't really answer the question that I was asking. I was asking why The Sentinel would feel the need to publicly expose Cyclops? I get what you meant...that it could possibly expose Cyclops. My question is why The Sentinel would feel such a need to expose Cyclops? Especially when The Sentinel's vote is worthless if he gets a vote? See what I'm getting at? The potential exposure isn't worth that bit of knowledge I don't think. Do you?

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:15 pm**

stated more clearly, what is gained by exposing Cyclops for The Sentinel? The Sentinels are programmed mutant killers, so it seems likely that The Sentinels are going after all mutants. So, if The Sentinels need everyone dead, why would that role care who anyone was?

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:26 pm**

The Vision wrote:
Havok wrote:A question for The Vision: You requested that someone place a vote on me "just in case" I am The Sentinel. Why not vote for me yourself instead of asking someone else to do it? I don't see anything wrong with the plan, I just wonder why you asked someone else to do it?
At the time, there were virtually no votes, so I felt I needed to use my vote on a more important matter, namely trying to get the lynch onto a baddie. My thing against you is in no way strong enough to warrant a lynch, and there are always people at the end of a lynch who dont want to touch the main votegetters, so I guessed someone would step up, and Mr. Mojo did. Hope that makes sense!

And this lynch was a bit crazy with all of those late seeming votes. I look forward to reading back on the thunder voters...

Yeah, it makes sense. I just thought maybe you had an ulterior motive for trying to get someone else to do it, but I was clearly wrong. I'm not feeling so good about Mr. Mojo. He looks like he's just trying to be your yes man. You made your post asking someone to vote for me. His vote post felt like he was voting for me just in response to your request. Granted, if he is bad, he was smart enough not to just come in, quote your post, and say "I'll do it", but we he did do was just reuse your ideas from the previous day without adding anything original. Then, when I asked him a question, he just shrugs it off by saying that the question had already been answered. This is not to say that I think that the two of you are on a team together. At the moment, I don't think that you are bad, but Mr. Mojo is coming off as baddie to me. A baddie trying to piggy back off of a civvie that is sharing intelligent ideas.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:53 pm**

Havok wrote:stated more clearly, what is gained by exposing Cyclops for The Sentinel? The Sentinels are programmed mutant killers, so it seems likely that The Sentinels are going after all mutants. So, if The Sentinels need everyone dead, why would that role care who anyone was?

The fact is, we don't know what The Sentinels win condition is. Plus, they have the ever-dangerous *secrets*... I have no idea why The Sentinels would call out Cyclops. But I've seen people ask the host a question before where the question didn't make a ton of sense unless you realized that the person knew something you didn't.

so while it may not make a ton of sense, i could see the Sentinels being in the Deathlok group of voters, realizing the Cyclops thing, and asking the question all without ever really thinking "hmm, is this smart?"

You cans ee why I haven't really advocated your lynch over this lol, it's just that your question was really, really odd and this was made the most hypothetical sense to me.

Posted: **Thu Apr 10, 2014 11:54 pm**

And FWIW, Mojo's vote doesn't make him any more or less trustworthy to me. My proposition made it easy for him to avoid the main lynch wagons, so absolutely, following my lead there could have been very convenient!

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:06 am**

Uh....I forgot to play/vote. Sorry, guys and gals.

I didn't think Quicksilver's poor logic regarding indies was pingy, but I think his defense was. Frankly, I'm shocked so many late votes came in for Thunderbird and got him lynched.

I think Hawkeye and The Vision are being very astute.

This is a quote from someone (I think Havoc) to Quicksilver, and it sums up my thoughts, more or less.
"I feel like you were trying to use emotional appeals to survive, and not the good kind."

So I'll be looking at him tomorrow. And at Sunfire, about whom I have very very bad gut feelings. I'll probably build a case in the morning.

Quicksilver wrote:I don't mind trying the experiment on myself, but there are people volunteering I would be comfortable with Longshot also.

WHY??? This is the only interaction I have between you and Longshot:

Longshot wrote:
Quicksilver wrote:I have to vote bleh... I would like to vote for a quiet player like Banshee, but I think maybe some people haven't started as Epignosis has said he needs a replacement. I understand both sides of the Pronoun argument as stated earlier, but I do have to pick someone to vote so I will try to trust the group saying Deathlok's slip up is really a Baddie mistake. I still dont think there is enough evidence to vote against the other people being accused today yet, Avalanche, Scarlet Witch, etc.
(Votes Deathlok)
Quicksilver, this has been bothering me and I haven't found an answer so I'm just going to ask. I double checked and Scarlett Witch was the one who made the potential "slip". It was that "slip" that I saw all the discussion about regarding did that mean she was a baddie or just mis-gendered Polaris. What slip up did Deathlok have that you are saying here was a baddie mistake? I may have just missed it and am confused because the only potential slip I saw was Scarlett's.

It seems vaguely antagonistic, and I honestly don't remember Longshot having said much of anything else this game. (My apologies if I've been overlooking you, Long.) So why do you suddenly trust Longshot the most, after never talking about him or to him and after he totally wrecked your "reason" for your vote? Or are you going with the second strategy and voting for someon you're suspicious of? This feels very baddie to me.

Phoenix wrote:Ughhhh RIP Thunderbird! Not going on hunches anymore...

The what will you go on?

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:09 am**

I don't trust any of the people who have votes so far, and I think this should go to a civ (preferably one with a weak power). I have to vote now because I'll be out of town until Saturday evening, so I'm going with Avalanche. I have no idea if he's interested, but he seems like a wild and crazy guy so I think it fits.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:14 am**

The Vision wrote:
Havok wrote:stated more clearly, what is gained by exposing Cyclops for The Sentinel? The Sentinels are programmed mutant killers, so it seems likely that The Sentinels are going after all mutants. So, if The Sentinels need everyone dead, why would that role care who anyone was?
The fact is, we don't know what The Sentinels win condition is. Plus, they have the ever-dangerous *secrets*... I have no idea why The Sentinels would call out Cyclops. But I've seen people ask the host a question before where the question didn't make a ton of sense unless you realized that the person knew something you didn't.

so while it may not make a ton of sense, i could see the Sentinels being in the Deathlok group of voters, realizing the Cyclops thing, and asking the question all without ever really thinking "hmm, is this smart?"

You cans ee why I haven't really advocated your lynch over this lol, it's just that your question was really, really odd and this was made the most hypothetical sense to me.

That does make sense. Looking back, it was a dangerous question to ask. I didn't realize it at the time. When i asked, I actually thought that if it had been a tie, it would mean that the two civvies did not play a part in the lynch. My thinking was: "If Cyclops vote is worth 3 and Wolverine had a -4 situation, what can the baddies do? Do they have anything close to that?"

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:37 am**

Can anyone explain exactly what the case on thunderbird was? I missed it.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:41 am**

Mikhail Rasputin wrote:Uh....I forgot to play/vote. Sorry, guys and gals.

I didn't think Quicksilver's poor logic regarding indies was pingy, but I think his defense was. Frankly, I'm shocked so many late votes came in for Thunderbird and got him lynched.

I think Hawkeye and The Vision are being very astute.

This is a quote from someone (I think Havoc) to Quicksilver, and it sums up my thoughts, more or less.
"I feel like you were trying to use emotional appeals to survive, and not the good kind."

So I'll be looking at him tomorrow. And at Sunfire, about whom I have very very bad gut feelings. I'll probably build a case in the morning.

Quicksilver wrote:I don't mind trying the experiment on myself, but there are people volunteering I would be comfortable with Longshot also.
WHY??? This is the only interaction I have between you and Longshot:

Longshot wrote:
Quicksilver wrote:I have to vote bleh... I would like to vote for a quiet player like Banshee, but I think maybe some people haven't started as Epignosis has said he needs a replacement. I understand both sides of the Pronoun argument as stated earlier, but I do have to pick someone to vote so I will try to trust the group saying Deathlok's slip up is really a Baddie mistake. I still dont think there is enough evidence to vote against the other people being accused today yet, Avalanche, Scarlet Witch, etc.
(Votes Deathlok)
Quicksilver, this has been bothering me and I haven't found an answer so I'm just going to ask. I double checked and Scarlett Witch was the one who made the potential "slip". It was that "slip" that I saw all the discussion about regarding did that mean she was a baddie or just mis-gendered Polaris. What slip up did Deathlok have that you are saying here was a baddie mistake? I may have just missed it and am confused because the only potential slip I saw was Scarlett's.
It seems vaguely antagonistic, and I honestly don't remember Longshot having said much of anything else this game. (My apologies if I've been overlooking you, Long.) So why do you suddenly trust Longshot the most, after never talking about him or to him and after he totally wrecked your "reason" for your vote? Or are you going with the second strategy and voting for someon you're suspicious of? This feels very baddie to me.

Phoenix wrote:Ughhhh RIP Thunderbird! Not going on hunches anymore...
The what will you go on?

As for Longshot, he was merely asking me questions over and over andnot wrecking anything and trying to understand why I did certain things. The quote you pulled ^^^was from him trying to understand me and he asked several times for me to answer after that quote if you look back. He even mentioned he wanted clarity even though I said I was tired of defended so much. I finally answered which is why there aren't many back and forth from us.
I take it as a Civ trying to understand another Civ reasoning. He also did NOT vote me which gained some trust with me. When I made the post about the experiment, I said "...but there are people volunteering I would comfortable with (Longshot) also." I'd be okay voting for him, White Queen, or Phoenix for the poll. But, none of those want to try it except Longshot. I appreciate anyone who tried to save me by voting for TB also, even though he also turned out to be Civ and not. Bad :/

I may have tried emotional appeal to help not die this early, but I was being targeted. I get a little frantic sometimes when I know I'm Civ.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:08 am**

The Vision wrote:
Havok wrote:stated more clearly, what is gained by exposing Cyclops for The Sentinel? The Sentinels are programmed mutant killers, so it seems likely that The Sentinels are going after all mutants. So, if The Sentinels need everyone dead, why would that role care who anyone was?
The fact is, we don't know what The Sentinels win condition is. Plus, they have the ever-dangerous *secrets*... I have no idea why The Sentinels would call out Cyclops. But I've seen people ask the host a question before where the question didn't make a ton of sense unless you realized that the person knew something you didn't.

so while it may not make a ton of sense, i could see the Sentinels being in the Deathlok group of voters, realizing the Cyclops thing, and asking the question all without ever really thinking "hmm, is this smart?"

You cans ee why I haven't really advocated your lynch over this lol, it's just that your question was really, really odd and this was made the most hypothetical sense to me.

Also wanted to point out that while we don't know The Sentinels exact win condition, we can get pretty close with a guess considering the civvies and the brotherhood both need the Sentinels gone in order to win. With that it stands to reason that The Sentinels need the civvies and brotherhood gone to win. I don't think it's a stretch at all to say that the Sentinels have a LMS win condition....with the possibilty of being able to coexist with Apocalypse and/or Omega Red.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:54 am**

I did follow the thread and I am a bit perplexed by the T-Bird surge at the end. I am not sure I even would have voted for him for that at this stage, with so many people who did not bother to vote, or post, at all. At least he did one of the two.

I thought there were some pretty good points to the case on Quicksilver (someone called him Silverfish at some point, I LOLed) and that push to T-Bird at the end did not look great to me.

There were a few things I know I have to address, and will do so tonight (xoxo Spiral

) when I have finished assuring that the mutants of the world are safe from danger

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:08 am**

White Queen wrote:I did follow the thread and I am a bit perplexed by the T-Bird surge at the end. I am not sure I even would have voted for him for that at this stage, with so many people who did not bother to vote, or post, at all. At least he did one of the two.

I thought there were some pretty good points to the case on Quicksilver (someone called him Silverfish at some point, I LOLed) and that push to T-Bird at the end did not look great to me.

There were a few things I know I have to address, and will do so tonight (xoxo Spiral ) when I have finished assuring that the mutants of the world are safe from danger

I was thinking exactly this. Had I been allowed, I probably would have voted Quicksilver as well. The case looked good on him. The fact that a rush of t-bird votes came after Quicksilver had taken four votes seems very suspicious to me.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:08 am**

Hawkeye wrote:I have noticed the independents being brought up back and forth, but no real discussion on them. I realize two of them have secrets but maybe we can make some assumptions based on our host's past games and the nature of the characters in the X-Men universe.

Omega Red: No secrets there, can win with any group as long as the characters he's chosen are eliminated. During the day periods he has to at least appear civ friendly for credibility and help find scum.

Sentinels: In the comics/movies they are anti-mutant robots, which means all mutants regardless of alignment. In this game, neither civilians nor the Brotherhood can win with them, so they may not be civ friendly, but they are most definitely not scum friendly either.

Apocalypse: In the animated series, the character had some very cool lines 'I am the rocks of the eternal shore. Crash against me and be broken. ' or 'Evil? I am not malevolent. I simply am.' It's been a long since I've watched that, but went to Wiki and he's been recruiting his 4 horsemen, Angel/Archangel among them. Looking at the info we have on the role, he basically looks immortal, however, looking at at least one of our host's past games where there was such a powerful independent - could not be lynched or night killed, they were dependent upon a specific group: when the last member of that group was eliminated, so was that independent. I think Apocalypse recruits his four horsemen, perhaps specific roles like Archangel, and when they are eliminated, so is he. Here is some info regarding the incarnations of the Horsemen. There are mutants from both sides in there.

While I'm still in the speculation area, I'll talk briefly about the other two roles with secrets:

Storm: Alters the weather. This can mean anything, but since she's a civilian, it could that she can control the outcome of lynches, or has some kind of vote manipulation powers.

Mystique: For those of you who don't know, she's a shapeshifter. This can mean a number of things: she could pose as a mutant of her choice and use their power, but that would be too similar to Rogue's role, or some of you may already be familiar with the Catherine Martell role, who, if lynched can control the role she was shown as. Perhaps we're in that area with Mystique as well.

Note that these are all just speculations in an attempt to offer some insight one the game mechanics. I could be miles away from what the secrets actually mean. The point of it all, especially with the independents is to see if they are an immediate danger and if it's worth hunting them down or have them help us get rid of the baddies.

So, sorry for the slightly off topic post. I'll work on one regarding my suspicions soon.

Why the hell are you discussing the secrets of a civilian role?

Bastion wrote:I really don't understand all these votes on quicksilver.

I voted for quicksilver because he refused to address my points. He refused to respond to me bringing up specific quotes about him. He hoped I'd just go away.

White Queen wrote:I did follow the thread and I am a bit perplexed by the T-Bird surge at the end. I am not sure I even would have voted for him for that at this stage, with so many people who did not bother to vote, or post, at all. At least he did one of the two.

I thought there were some pretty good points to the case on Quicksilver (someone called him Silverfish at some point, I LOLed) and that push to T-Bird at the end did not look great to me.

There were a few things I know I have to address, and will do so tonight (xoxo Spiral ) when I have finished assuring that the mutants of the world are safe from danger

Thank you.

I think that the T-Bird lynch train was to save Quicksilver. Big time.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:14 am**

I am voting for The Vision, because I trust him.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 9:57 am**

I'm not sure where I want to vote in this poll. I worry about the "something helpful" falling into baddie hands, so I will look at volunteers and vote for someone trustworthy.....as trustworthy as someone can be on Night 2 that is.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:29 am**

Spiral wrote: Why the hell are you discussing the secrets of a civilian role?

I believe it’s called trying to be helpful. See, I would normally agree with you if I concluded that my brief discussion would result in endangering said civilian or any other civilians for that matter, but having weighed the pros and cons of such an undertaking, I considered that openly discussing it, along with the rest of the roles with secrets would provide us a better understanding of the game mechanics. If you manage to provide a setting where the fact that I discussed Storm’s secret endangers any civilian (note that this is a game with heavy voting manipulation, so a lynch switch or whatever would go undetected), I’ll plead guilty and you can go ahead and take me out for attempting to endanger or expose one or more civilians. Let’s assume, for the sake of discussion, that ‘altering the weather’ does indeed mean what I have described in my previous post. Do you think that a team of 7 would not reach the same conclusion, because you know, it’s pretty much common sense? Or maybe you guys haven’t discussed it this yet, in which case I do apologize.

Do you think that a person who survives a lynch would not be an automatic night target either because they are a powerful civilian or to have the baddies check if they do indeed have Apocalypse in the bag? Of course you’d think the same if you actually took a few seconds to rationalize this, instead of trying to come across as very offended and self-righteous in what I consider an aggressive manner. I would buy it if you were Storm and you’d consider that my discussing your secrets could somehow expose you. However, the very fact that out of my entire post you’ve chosen to single out one role in particular to make you look good, tells me that you have nothing to do with that particular, and perhaps the reason is that I might have struck a chord and I’m exposing you or one of your teammates. I see no discussion about the independents and the baddie with secrets, for which you are very welcome. In case you haven’t bothered to read my posts, I like to rely on logic, common sense and what facts I can pick up from people’s posts in order to make what I consider rational judgments. Plus, I like to get some reactions. Thank you for that. And if it’s all right with you, I’ll have to keep an eye on you.

That being said, I don’t want to end this post in a bellicose manner.

Spiral wrote:I think that the T-Bird lynch train was to save Quicksilver. Big time.

I do agree with this. Big time.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 10:47 am**

Just something I remembered I wanted to throw out there even though it probably isn't the same, but on the show Rogue went to Muir Island for the experiment to get rid of her powers, and it was a ploy to help Apocalypse. Trying to separate show from this game, but I just remembered and kinda am weary now choosing.

Also, I already speculated like I said that they knew obviously me and T Bird were either gonna be lynched and didn't care, so they got him out because I already had suspicion. It was to save me for Day 3 to get lynched and I hope you guys examine some of the voters on T Bird that made it tie up near the end. I think (most) the voters on me yesterday were Civ going with how I appeared bad with my postings and thought they had it right. But I feel Mojo was acting really weird yesterday, and I want to hear more from Polaris. Havok I can understand him trying to figure out the Day 1 lynch more now and his style is just different than other people playing, as is mine and we both are taking poundings for it because we try different styles and strategies than most. Look at me being bold and trying to help more discussion, it earned me huge targets on me and Baddies eating that up. That's just one problem I sometimes have with these games, someone does a different style of play and you guys take it as "bad" because it isn't typical. When I play, I like to make bold moves and I take risks posting more often than some playing. It usually looks like I'm "bad" then too because I have attention but I don't like being quiet like some Civ do.
All I ask is you guys examine the thread tonight and Day 3 carefully and try to accept my accurate theory above with Me going to be out soon and setting T Bird up to die first, most likely cus it was easy and he wasn't talking.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:27 am**

I'm still pretty suspicious of Quicksilver's defense. But I think looking at some of the late voters who made a surge on Thunderbird would be worthwhile.

Throwing my vote at Avalanche. He's still the only one I fully trust so far.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 11:28 am**

Shadowcat wrote: Throwing my vote at Avalanche. He's still the only one I fully trust so far.

Rock on!

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:31 pm**

*votes avalanche* I feel I can trust him as well.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 12:50 pm**

Sunfire wrote:*votes avalanche* I feel I can trust him as well.

How original.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:14 pm**

Sorry Thunderbird but some of those votes for Quicksilver left me feeling icky. I should have stuck with my original suspicion that others latched onto for their own votes.

I am voting Vision bc he is saying a lot of the same things I am thinking or posting.[/b]

White Queen and Avalanche its good to have you back with your thoughts.

Posted: **Fri Apr 11, 2014 1:32 pm**

Voting myself. Even though there are a couple of people who I think have good intentions, I can't really say I'm that confident in any one person's trustworthiness at this point.

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