The Syndicate

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:26 pm Michelle has a claim that mafia have to kill

Kyle does not, so I guess I am rooting for this

Why is everyone voting me?

Gimmie the cliffs on the cases against both players.

Ehh, trusting made over just trusting my read of the game would be difficult

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:27 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:14 pm I coulda sworn I signed up to be in this game anyway but whatever.

Hi Jack! wassup?

This and that. Spicy claim. I was worried you had outted yourself as mafia early and we would get to play together.

lol.

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:27 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:25 pm

Jackofhearts2005 wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:14 pm I coulda sworn I signed up to be in this game anyway but whatever.

Hi Jack! wassup?

This and that. Spicy claim. I was worried you had outted yourself as mafia early and we would get to play together.

I didn't want to claim, but mondays are bad days for playing.

@Michelle Made has counter-claimed Cosmic Spider if that isn't clear

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:33 pm @Michelle Made has counter-claimed Cosmic Spider if that isn't clear

Can you quote me the post?

I mean if Made cc'd, that's fine to kill Michelle, but I am probably killing Kyle as well lol

Nvm, i will search for it myself

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

I mean if he had only used 20 s I wouldn't have believed it, but 36? Dude is serious.

Where is my popcorn??

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:00 pm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:57 pm

DaughterOfOmega wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:55 pm I'd like to point out the fact not a single person in my 8 person POE has had the nerve to vote Chardonnay

Hmm

I encourage you to read the big aha moment me/marmot/radish had on kyle a couple pages ago, I think it's incredibly likely he's mafia and if so i dont think he's with chard

If you think Kyle is mafia, I'm curious if you can come to the conclusion that Macdougall is mafia

Remind me later that I have a 'eh, maybe' reason for thinking Mac is mafia.

We can focus on Michelle/Made & Zenmaster Kyle for now.

Do we just not chop either of them and let mafia decide if they actually want to kill one tonight and expose the other?

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

The wording of the first post shows it's a lie, and it's on purpose a post made in a fancy way, to impress

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

We'd be guaranteed to get a doc protect if we do that I think

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm We'd be guaranteed to get a doc protect if we do that I think

I mean we probably have some roles that could check out their claims as well and all that.

I dunno might be fun to live dangerously and thunderdome them.

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:40 pm Do we just not chop either of them and let mafia decide if they actually want to kill one tonight and expose the other?

That may be reasonable ig

Master Radishes wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:38 pm I mean if he had only used 20 s I wouldn't have believed it, but 36? Dude is serious.

You counted them?

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

The wording of the first post shows it's a lie, and it's on purpose a post made in a fancy way, to impress

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

well to be fair, my first post was a lie. I'm new to the whole counter claiming thing. This is the first game I've been in where it's happen, let alone me being involved in it.

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:01 pm

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:57 pm @nutella if you get a sec do you mind distilling your points against me into a bullet pointed list

- you seem to be forcing banter to look comfortable in thread

I don't need to pretend to be comfortable here. Mafia and other internet hobbies are one of the few things in my life that aren't just sorta fucked up right now.

- you asked unfamiliar players about who they are/where they came from in a very similar way as you did in the christmas game

I actually do this in every game to enforce a consistent meta that can be replicated easily. I think I've talked about this before. I tried to skip it this game and just be myself but I ended up needing to know who some people were.

- you talked a lot about avatars which you also did in the christmas game

I try to change my avatar to fit themed games and games I'm excited about. This is a Long Con game so it's important to bring out the finest silverware. Not pictured here are the 9 hours I spent on deciding on a simpsons character and avatar for the simpsons game.

- you did the "zen emoji" thing which you have done in 2 previous mafia games and no town games, and it's not even just the word itself but the context/way you use it to make a vote and look like youre in a flow or whatever

one of those quotes you posted was from mega man mafia which was actual years ago, in which I apparently got in a fight with someone and was trying to smooth things over, unrelated to alignment. The Christmas example was a post where I was just blatantly bussing my own teammate Sig. these are not the same as talking about the zen emoji to make fun of myself for talking like a wizard or something

- you have one boknows interaction that feels awkward and one exchange with kza about boknows that felt like how you'd talk about a partner in that position

I don't remember that and I don't have time now to look it up before my break ends. If it's very important do you mind linking me to it?

- similar to first point but just in general you haven't continued to have a towny thread presence imo and seem to be skating by

the game started during my weekend so I had time to snoop around and harass people about their weird opinions and stuff. It is now not the weekend, and I have a life outside of this website. also, this day has been insane, by mafia standards lol. It's not like the thread was lacking in content because I personally played skyrim for 4 hours and then played Settlers of Catan over tabletop simulator with some friends.

- this point kinda relies on chardonnay being town but you subtly supported that wagon d1 when doom was pushing him and you seemed to prefer it to others and have continued to quietly support that push and seems like an easy route for mafia

this is a subjective opinion and basically just a consequence of using my vote proactively throughout the day instead of saving it til the end.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

The wording of the first post shows it's a lie, and it's on purpose a post made in a fancy way, to impress

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

So do you think there's any possibility he's a town role with other mech reason to think you are lying and thus is town fpsing?? See my posts around his claim as I thought that maybe. If you can both conceivably be town I don't want to make the wrong assumption.

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

The wording of the first post shows it's a lie, and it's on purpose a post made in a fancy way, to impress

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

well to be fair, my first post was a lie. I'm new to the whole counter claiming thing. This is the first game I've been in where it's happen, let alone me being involved in it.

Both posts are lies tbh

The number of people treating the "zen" thing as a real point is a joke lol

I don't like the fact every push that Kyle made was on a town, several of them jokingly.

Then the most serious he has been is when he gets 3 votes.

sorry kyle your point by point defense just rings more caught scum than townie to me. you sound rigid in a similar way to when you bussed sig in christmas. I don't feel like this is how you'd respond if innocent

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:46 pm The number of people treating the "zen" thing as a real point is a joke lol

...Said Made about his jibtell.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:46 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

The wording of the first post shows it's a lie, and it's on purpose a post made in a fancy way, to impress

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

well to be fair, my first post was a lie. I'm new to the whole counter claiming thing. This is the first game I've been in where it's happen, let alone me being involved in it.

Both posts are lies tbh

I really wish they were

being doc suck cuz you have an obligation to not get yourself chopped.
Respect y'all for this play tho, it's dummy smart

Marmot wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm We'd be guaranteed to get a doc protect if we do that I think

yeah this is probably the play hm

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:45 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

The wording of the first post shows it's a lie, and it's on purpose a post made in a fancy way, to impress

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

So do you think there's any possibility he's a town role with other mech reason to think you are lying and thus is town fpsing?? See my posts around his claim as I thought that maybe. If you can both conceivably be town I don't want to make the wrong assumption.

Idk, seeing the CC the first impulse was to not see it as coming from town, hence my vote

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:49 pm sorry kyle your point by point defense just rings more caught scum than townie to me. you sound rigid in a similar way to when you bussed sig in christmas. I don't feel like this is how you'd respond if innocent

Yeah. Wolves love a good point-for-point argument.

I have now used the word "zen" 5 times or more as town so if anything, no matter what happens that stereotype will be squashed and I'll be able to be as zen as I want in the future

Kylemii wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:52 pm I have now used the word "zen" 5 times or more as town so if anything, no matter what happens that stereotype will be squashed and I'll be able to be as zen as I want in the future

Shall we help future Kyle out by flipping you now to squash it then?

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:46 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

The wording of the first post shows it's a lie, and it's on purpose a post made in a fancy way, to impress

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

well to be fair, my first post was a lie. I'm new to the whole counter claiming thing. This is the first game I've been in where it's happen, let alone me being involved in it.

Both posts are lies tbh

I really wish they were

being doc suck cuz you have an obligation to not get yourself chopped.
Respect y'all for this play tho, it's dummy smart

Being doc is my second fav after VT because I had some spectacular saves with impact in games.
Last sentence.. You're mocking me, you know I am the real one.

I don't believe Michelle really at all, but should I switch to Kyle before I dip? (Deadline is soon right?)

[VOTE: kylemii] aubergine

yeah I think we should let the doc claims resolve/give them a night anyway. and I still think it's possible made is another town role fpsing and missing some possibility. Michelle is scummy otherwise so occam's razor could just be made is real but I don't feel like chancing it atm.

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:55 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:50 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:46 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:44 pm

Michelle wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:41 pm

KZA wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:37 pm

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:38 pm *sigh*
okay, let's do this.....

HARD COUNTER CLAIM MICHELLE




I AM THE REAL MICHELLE


*starts boss music*
(note: I am not actually michelle)

I don't actually know what Michelle's role is tbh, but there's no way it's Cosmic Spidey, it just wouldn't make any fucking sense from what I was able to check last night

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 4:44 pm actually, fuck it,

I'm Cosmic Spider. I don't know how else to approach this

@Michelle

The wording of the first post shows it's a lie, and it's on purpose a post made in a fancy way, to impress

[VOTE: Made] aubergine

well to be fair, my first post was a lie. I'm new to the whole counter claiming thing. This is the first game I've been in where it's happen, let alone me being involved in it.

Both posts are lies tbh

I really wish they were

being doc suck cuz you have an obligation to not get yourself chopped.
Respect y'all for this play tho, it's dummy smart

Being doc is my second fav after VT because I had some spectacular saves with impact in games.
Last sentence.. You're mocking me, you know I am the real one.

nah, not a mock. I double checked it, targettng doc to force a role claim is highkey genius, especially when you lost your double killer. If you're going to force a claim, doc is the one you force

Nothing but respect here sis

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:49 pm sorry kyle your point by point defense just rings more caught scum than townie to me. you sound rigid in a similar way to when you bussed sig in christmas. I don't feel like this is how you'd respond if innocent

wow

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:58 pm [VOTE: kylemii] aubergine

yeah I think we should let the doc claims resolve/give them a night anyway. and I still think it's possible made is another town role fpsing and missing some possibility. Michelle is scummy otherwise so occam's razor could just be made is real but I don't feel like chancing it atm.

what? Yo that's wild. What????

I'm doc don't do this

Made wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:58 pm
nah, not a mock. I double checked it, targettng doc to force a role claim is highkey genius, especially when you lost your double killer. If you're going to force a claim, doc is the one you force

Nothing but respect here sis

mmm legit

lol yeah ok

[VOTE: michelle] aubergine

[VOTE: Zenmaster Kylemii] aubergine

I may or may not pop back later, but jic.

Ugh srsly.

[VOTE: Michelle] aubergine
then

Yo, sus on everything on this page. Kyle???

Like okay sure maybe, but like no.

Lol I mean @made there's def a valid mechanical argument to let you two resolve overnight so we get a guaranteed save rather than risking it from the pov of those of us who don't know for sure. Don't fault me for thinking of it that way, it's the safer play, but I do believe you more so meh

Made why are you so defensive of kyle that's the main thing that gives me pause about you doing this here. The timing was kinda wild based on that.

I'm the real slim shady

nutella wrote: ↑Mon Feb 08, 2021 6:02 pm Lol I mean @made there's def a valid mechanical argument to let you two resolve overnight so we get a guaranteed save rather than risking it from the pov of those of us who don't know for sure. Don't fault me for thinking of it that way, it's the safer play, but I do believe you more so meh

Mafia is souping tonight. Soup can't be protected/deflected or anything of that mess. I'm dying regardless. I
f michelle lives and I die, then i get targeted by Janitor, that's gg, Michelle's in lylo.