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Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:19 pm
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:18 pm Who blocked TSP N1?
was tsp blocked n1?

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:20 pm
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:19 pm Your ISO just got a control feed from dolby so take that
Marmot rn

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Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:21 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:17 pm I'm ngl I control fed your iso for marmot bc I thought it was a weird block but yeah marmot was 3rd biggest tr 2.5 hours before eod2
This remains not true but if I said it I might have been lying

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:21 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Likely you’re reading off an unordered list

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:21 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Or I was lying idk

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:21 pm
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:21 pm Likely you’re reading off an unordered list
ok fair

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:22 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
My thought process upon Dunya dying was roughly “okay, who should I block? Marmot” and that was it

Chicken blocked me yesterday

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:22 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm HK
NAA
Marmot
NAA
Syn
Jack
TSP
Dolby
Rask
This is probably a list of townreads in order but feel free to clarify TSP

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 pm
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm HK
NAA
Marmot
NAA
Syn
Jack
TSP
Dolby
Rask
This is probably a list of townreads in order but feel free to clarify TSP
in retrospect i should've known bc he included himself

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
If it were ordered tsp would be on top

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 pm
by Marmot
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:19 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:18 pm Who blocked TSP N1?
was tsp blocked n1?
Someone said they blocked him I forget who

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:24 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I believe I have o ly once forgotten my alignment in a. Game

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:24 pm
by Marmot
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:23 pm
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:22 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:33 pm HK
NAA
Marmot
NAA
Syn
Jack
TSP
Dolby
Rask
This is probably a list of townreads in order but feel free to clarify TSP
in retrospect i should've known bc he included himself
He didn't want to look to townie

Re: RPG Mafia D2

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:25 pm
by Marmot
Le petit poussin wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:29 pm
dunya wrote: Thu Mar 17, 2022 4:24 pm @Le petit poussin what action did you take last night?
I blocked TSP :keys:

Ah yes here it is

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:27 pm
by Marmot
So Rask and TSP are unlikely paired.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:27 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:32 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:31 pm
Scotty wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:30 pm
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:29 pm I don't think DrWilgy is mafia.
This is where you would then add, “because…..”
I've tried on other cases, nobody will care either way about justifications, and will just continue with their read.
Let's try this.

I don't care about your read with a lack of justification.
I do but it’s to do that thing where I assume people who defend my scumreads without reasoning must be doing it because they too are scum. :rolleyes:

And I already fucked that up bad this game so yeah, I want an answer if it hasn’t already been given.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:29 pm
by Marmot
NotAnAxehole wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 7:45 pm Ok, I'll give you a DrWilgy case, tell me if you think I'm being genuine or not:

DrWilgy is barely playing, yet you can tell he's reading back if you go through his ISO there are several posts where he's not just directly talking about the currently active topic in the thread. When he does this, he's not exclusively doing this as a vanity search for his own name either.

DrWilgy doesn't seem to have an agenda to push, he comes to the thread without a clear idea of who he's going to push, or who he pushed in the past.

I think DrWilgy is obviously town.

I like this take tbh, thanks for taking the time to explain it.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:33 pm
by Marmot
I also feel like I'm moving towards a TSP/LP/Urist(orMaybeJackOrMaybeBoth) world


LP and TSP seem like reasonable scum team fits. Rask can't be paired with TSP. Dya probably isn't paired LP.

I guess NAA and Wilgy could literally be teammates, but I do think scum!NAA isn't doing himself any favors defending a POE candidated if Wilgy is town.



Also per my observation yesterday, the thread got quieter when the wagon jumped from LP to NAA, which makes those two look unaligned AND LP like the potential scum between the two.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:35 pm
by Marmot
Jack can be partnered with TSP mainly because he soulread TSP town all day yesterday, and if TSP is mafia and dunia is town, that means Jack was wrong on exactly two of his most confident Day 2 reads.

TSP also blatantly shielded LP yesterday.



These are arguments for openwolfing wolves, but that's a thing wolves do so sure it can work.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:35 pm
by Dolby
talk to me about how LP and TSP are teammates?

Like yeah TSP is literally the only person defending LP today, but all of how they interacted D2 and I think that TSP defeding LP is twtbaw

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:36 pm
by Dolby
specifically, LP's insistence on tunneling TSP for part of D3, but all of D2, including at a period where it actually looked possible that TSP could go over.

Understanding that Dunya isn't exactly an option for her, she went hard

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:36 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I would like to double down on thinking that marmot is a wolf

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:36 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:36 pm I would like to double down on thinking that marmot is a wolf
Go right ahead

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:37 pm
by Marmot
(Oh and for the record. I did Druid 1 TSP on Night 1 and he went nowhere, so Rask's roleblock is probably legit)

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:38 pm
by Marmot
By went nowhere, I mean no movement, but I think you get the idea

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:39 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I would like to Un double down on thinking marmot Is a wolf

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:39 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
No I wouldn’t thats nonsense

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:39 pm
by Dolby
yeah

hmmm

if scum are on the warrior 1 path it might be advantagous to roleblock tonight

but

idk

we're gonna have to evaluate if it's worth saving tsp

it probably still is

I'm travelling tomorrow so expect not much from me

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:40 pm
by Marmot
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:36 pm specifically, LP's insistence on tunneling TSP for part of D3, but all of D2, including at a period where it actually looked possible that TSP could go over.

Understanding that Dunya isn't exactly an option for her, she went hard

I'll have to look into that.

Also, didn't LP push scum dunya early on Day 2? I recall her backing off later, but I do rememeber an early push for a Syn/dunya team.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:41 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:39 pm I would like to Un double down on thinking marmot Is a wolf
uh you have to call me town if you want me to heal you

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:41 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Why do the blockers keep running into people who aren’t threatening to blow up the game

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:41 pm
by Dolby
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:40 pm
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:36 pm specifically, LP's insistence on tunneling TSP for part of D3, but all of D2, including at a period where it actually looked possible that TSP could go over.

Understanding that Dunya isn't exactly an option for her, she went hard

I'll have to look into that.

Also, didn't LP push scum dunya early on Day 2? I recall her backing off later, but I do rememeber an early push for a Syn/dunya team.
LP was hard TRing Dunya starting mid-D2

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:41 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:41 pm
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:39 pm I would like to Un double down on thinking marmot Is a wolf
uh you have to call me town if you want me to heal you
No Idont I am a pugilist

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:42 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
I think Jack looks worse if I’m town than if I’m a wolf tbh

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:43 pm
by Marmot
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:42 pm I think Jack looks worse if I’m town than if I’m a wolf tbh
well if he's scum and you aren't then you let him pocket you how dare you

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:44 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Yeah but this hasn’t been my finest game

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:47 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:33 pm I also feel like I'm moving towards a TSP/LP/Urist(orMaybeJackOrMaybeBoth) world


LP and TSP seem like reasonable scum team fits. Rask can't be paired with TSP. Dya probably isn't paired LP.

I guess NAA and Wilgy could literally be teammates, but I do think scum!NAA isn't doing himself any favors defending a POE candidated if Wilgy is town.



Also per my observation yesterday, the thread got quieter when the wagon jumped from LP to NAA, which makes those two look unaligned AND LP like the potential scum between the two.
Oh yeah. I’m glad one of us remembered that.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:49 pm
by Dolby
If we treat Sig like a non-number it's actually advantageous to let TSP die if we also assume that NAA is town and gets roleblocked

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:50 pm
by Marmot
Oh I forgot about sig

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:50 pm
by Dolby
If NAA is town and passes a warrior 4 skill check and doesn't get roleblocked though, it's advantageous to save TSP if he's town

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:52 pm
by Dolby
bc if we remove sig

8v4
Letting town TSP die actually doesn't lose us a misyeet.

7v3 or 6v4
Entering D4 6v3 or 5v4 before extra kills

NAA should never be blocked if two town deaths today

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:53 pm
by Jackofhearts2005
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:35 pm Jack can be partnered with TSP mainly because he soulread TSP town all day yesterday, and if TSP is mafia and dunia is town, that means Jack was wrong on exactly two of his most confident Day 2 reads.

TSP also blatantly shielded LP yesterday.



These are arguments for openwolfing wolves, but that's a thing wolves do so sure it can work.
This could be worth looking into. I would be pretty embarrassed if Tony turns out to be a wolf.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:54 pm
by Marmot
I'm thinking it's optimal to let TSP die because it's free KP and he's not obvious town.

If he was more arguably town it might be a different story, but I don't know if he's townread by anyone atp.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
words before extra kills are doing some margins there

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:54 pm
by Dolby
Letting town TSP die probably doesn't put us at elevated risk of insta losing to 4 warrior 1 mafia

Letting mafia TSP die

8v4 remove town sig
8v3 remove mafia tsp

yeets are

7v3 or 6v2

yeah I don't think that we lose a misyeet by letting tsp die

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:54 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
Marmot wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:54 pm I'm thinking it's optimal to let TSP die because it's free KP and he's not obvious town.

If he was more arguably town it might be a different story, but I don't know if he's townread by anyone atp.
I’m townread by everyone (in spec chat)

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:55 pm
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:54 pm words before extra kills are doing some margins there
if it's 5v4 we're losing anyway and I don't think that all 3 scum are gonna hit in a 6v3

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:55 pm
by Dolby
TonyStarkPrime wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:54 pm words before extra kills are doing some margins there
if it's 5v4 we're losing anyway and I don't think that all 3 scum are gonna hit in a 6v3

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:56 pm
by Marmot
Dolby wrote: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:54 pm Letting town TSP die probably doesn't put us at elevated risk of insta losing to 4 warrior 1 mafia

Letting mafia TSP die

8v4 remove town sig
8v3 remove mafia tsp

yeets are

7v3 or 6v2

yeah I don't think that we lose a misyeet by letting tsp die

I'm glad you're doing the math because my head's not there right now.

Re: RPG Mafia D3

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 8:56 pm
by TonyStarkPrime
if it’s 6v4 you’re not necessarily losing smh