Murder, Mayhem, and Mafia
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He went camping and never returned.Ricochet wrote:Also, where the hell has MM vanished?
This game has gotten very quiet in recent days. Chalk it up to vacations/busy-ness during the summer or what have you, but I don't like the wallflowering going on.Ricochet wrote:I'll probably stretch myself thin late tonight (although it's already late and I should go to sleep instead) and throughout tomorrow trying to do re-reads and pick a lead, which won't gel well with achieving results until the lockdown might happen, so for now I'm going to place a vote on Synonym. I don't approve of him leaving the "posting" part out of his participation equation ("reading and voting" isn't enough, that's for sure, and he knows better, too); it's been going for too long and I've seen better activity from him back on JTM. It's understandable if the catch-up is too much or the role madness too vast, but it's still no reason to simply say "I don't understand what's going on" and not adopt any participation tactic.
If he's been recruited, his team would probably profit a lot from him sidelining hard. Plus, if you'll recall, I had a nagging vibe that Russ's status, despite him wanting out since D2, was left afloat for Days until replacements were found, making me believe he's already been recruited and his role is not so easily discardable anymore (via modkill or such). Both these recruiting theories on Russ and on Syn could mean either civ or bad camp, but his sidelining and defeatist remarks make me lean on bad.
I'll buckle down with you broScotty wrote:This game has gotten very quiet in recent days. Chalk it up to vacations/busy-ness during the summer or what have you, but I don't like the wallflowering going on.Ricochet wrote:I'll probably stretch myself thin late tonight (although it's already late and I should go to sleep instead) and throughout tomorrow trying to do re-reads and pick a lead, which won't gel well with achieving results until the lockdown might happen, so for now I'm going to place a vote on Synonym. I don't approve of him leaving the "posting" part out of his participation equation ("reading and voting" isn't enough, that's for sure, and he knows better, too); it's been going for too long and I've seen better activity from him back on JTM. It's understandable if the catch-up is too much or the role madness too vast, but it's still no reason to simply say "I don't understand what's going on" and not adopt any participation tactic.
If he's been recruited, his team would probably profit a lot from him sidelining hard. Plus, if you'll recall, I had a nagging vibe that Russ's status, despite him wanting out since D2, was left afloat for Days until replacements were found, making me believe he's already been recruited and his role is not so easily discardable anymore (via modkill or such). Both these recruiting theories on Russ and on Syn could mean either civ or bad camp, but his sidelining and defeatist remarks make me lean on bad.
Bass, Synonym, Tranq, Sorsha, aapje, Devin, reywaS, bea. Even BWT's been mysteriously distant of late. Those people on my list scare me because I can't say for sure what they are, because I just haven't heard original opinions from them in a while. Out of sight out of mind. At least Sorsha, who I had been hounding for so long, had been making efforts to look at several people (which she has said she doesn't prefer to do).
I know it's Labor Day weekend, and that's a legit excuse, but I want to see some buckling down going on.
DharmaHelper wrote:I'll buckle down with you broScotty wrote:This game has gotten very quiet in recent days. Chalk it up to vacations/busy-ness during the summer or what have you, but I don't like the wallflowering going on.Ricochet wrote:I'll probably stretch myself thin late tonight (although it's already late and I should go to sleep instead) and throughout tomorrow trying to do re-reads and pick a lead, which won't gel well with achieving results until the lockdown might happen, so for now I'm going to place a vote on Synonym. I don't approve of him leaving the "posting" part out of his participation equation ("reading and voting" isn't enough, that's for sure, and he knows better, too); it's been going for too long and I've seen better activity from him back on JTM. It's understandable if the catch-up is too much or the role madness too vast, but it's still no reason to simply say "I don't understand what's going on" and not adopt any participation tactic.
If he's been recruited, his team would probably profit a lot from him sidelining hard. Plus, if you'll recall, I had a nagging vibe that Russ's status, despite him wanting out since D2, was left afloat for Days until replacements were found, making me believe he's already been recruited and his role is not so easily discardable anymore (via modkill or such). Both these recruiting theories on Russ and on Syn could mean either civ or bad camp, but his sidelining and defeatist remarks make me lean on bad.
Bass, Synonym, Tranq, Sorsha, aapje, Devin, reywaS, bea. Even BWT's been mysteriously distant of late. Those people on my list scare me because I can't say for sure what they are, because I just haven't heard original opinions from them in a while. Out of sight out of mind. At least Sorsha, who I had been hounding for so long, had been making efforts to look at several people (which she has said she doesn't prefer to do).
I know it's Labor Day weekend, and that's a legit excuse, but I want to see some buckling down going on.
Everybody wanted to lynch Bubbles too. But I'm not inclined to vote for Wilgy toDay, not til we've heard more from him. Though his reaction to the lynch switch was underwhelming.DharmaHelper wrote:Nobody else will care, but a clear indication to me of Doc's innocence is that nobody seems to be sticking up for him. Everyone is content to lynch him, which to me says that his lynch is a frame job.
Turnip Head wrote:Does anyone have the poll results from Day 6?
I don't have the results, I just wanted to quote you.Turnip Head wrote:Turnip Head wrote:Does anyone have the poll results from Day 6?
Word.DharmaHelper wrote:I don't have the results, I just wanted to quote you.Turnip Head wrote:Turnip Head wrote:Does anyone have the poll results from Day 6?
What more do you want to hear from him?Turnip Head wrote:Everybody wanted to lynch Bubbles too. But I'm not inclined to vote for Wilgy toDay, not til we've heard more from him. Though his reaction to the lynch switch was underwhelming.DharmaHelper wrote:Nobody else will care, but a clear indication to me of Doc's innocence is that nobody seems to be sticking up for him. Everyone is content to lynch him, which to me says that his lynch is a frame job.
Why would you think silencing is a chaos factor (or Chaos Dancer, if you mean the role), and not Highborn Assassin, who had a silence power last night?Turnip Head wrote:I guess I want to know who he thinks saved him and why.
No idea who silenced him or why. Probably the chaos factor.
I meant that silencing him would cause chaos, I wasn't referencing a specific role.LoRab wrote:Why would you think silencing is a chaos factor (or Chaos Dancer, if you mean the role), and not Highborn Assassin, who had a silence power last night?Turnip Head wrote:I guess I want to know who he thinks saved him and why.
No idea who silenced him or why. Probably the chaos factor.
I read this as, 'Like, you can lynch her if you want, but it's gonna be worthless to you.'Turnip Head wrote:Hey I mean, if you wanna lynch her for a bum reason, be my guestCanucklehead wrote:I thought you were playing this as a neutral, bubba. Why do you suddenly care about good baddie catching strategy? Or are you just firing off stock responses to other people's posts?Turnip Head wrote:Lynching Bubbles for her ninja vote seems weak to me. Is ninja-voting a strategy that a baddie has ever successfully employed? Has lynching a ninja-voter ever caught a baddie?
(and for the record, I don't have any idea if Tiny is a baddie, and I don't recall ever intimating anything different.)
Day 5:Turnip Head wrote: Don't really see the cases on either Sorsha or Bubbles.
Turnip Head wrote:Yeah Bubbles' response felt kinda canned. But I don't know her well enough to say if she'd normally react like that.
Turnip Head wrote:Or the lynch was switched to make us lynch Bubbles again
Turnip Head wrote:Because if you have a lynch switch power, why not use it?Devin the Omniscient wrote: If that's the case, why not just let her be lynched the first time?? I'm with SD on this one.
Turnip Head wrote: Who do you think is currently getting blamed for the lynch switch?
Turnip Head wrote:So you don't think it's at all possible that Uzbekistan switched the lynch just to fuck with us? It had to be saving a teammate?
Today:Turnip Head wrote: I think that lynch gets switched no matter what role TinyBubbles has. I think any player at all could have received the most votes and it would have been switched.
I'll tell you what I see:Turnip Head wrote: Everybody wanted to lynch Bubbles too. But I'm not inclined to vote for Wilgy toDay, not til we've heard more from him. Though his reaction to the lynch switch was underwhelming.
Remember when we got this message, then NEVER got another one after from the Speaker? What's up widdat?Black Rock wrote:Speaker of Serenity wrote:Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.
Is...is that your defense?Turnip Head wrote:Yeah that looks pretty bad for me, doesn't it?
My defense is that I wouldn't stick my neck out for a teammate who wasn't defending herself and was likely to be lynched anyway, but that's just gonna be called WIFOM. I was wrong about Bubbles.Scotty wrote:Is...is that your defense?Turnip Head wrote:Yeah that looks pretty bad for me, doesn't it?
What is there to say to defend being wrong? i would have kept my mouth shut if I had known better. I'd like to think I wouldn't risk my position in the game, so early in the game, defending a teammate who wasn't even putting up a fight. That risk is not worth the reward. But I don't expect anyone to take my word for it.Scotty wrote:I don't envy the position of trying to defend against me, since I often careen into people in assessing like the Jamaican Bobsled team.
That being said, your acquiescence to my biased observations is not so good. What would I say to defend myself in your shoes?
I dunno. I'm not in your shoes. I suppose we'll cross those laces if we come to it.
But he might be silenced.Turnip Head wrote:Everybody wanted to lynch Bubbles too. But I'm not inclined to vote for Wilgy toDay, not til we've heard more from him. Though his reaction to the lynch switch was underwhelming.DharmaHelper wrote:Nobody else will care, but a clear indication to me of Doc's innocence is that nobody seems to be sticking up for him. Everyone is content to lynch him, which to me says that his lynch is a frame job.
We got a message from him at the start of D2, after position 1 concluded. We never got back to position 1 so far. His positions 2-5 might not be messaging. In fact, I'm pretty sure this lack of messaging since D2 tells us his positions 2-5 aren't messaging. I'm not sure if he's still alive or got killed, but there's no way to tell anyway.Scotty wrote:Remember when we got this message, then NEVER got another one after from the Speaker? What's up widdat?Black Rock wrote:Speaker of Serenity wrote:Please lynch Turnip Head. That is all.
What made you rule out the master of shadows?Ricochet wrote:Not sure if it matters in the big scheme, but if Wilgy is truly silenced today by the Assassin, then I have the late Dom in my sheets down to two possible roles: the War Monger or the Immortal.
Yeah I meant unrecruited. I've played a game in the past where rezzed player joined a secret baddie team. I think it was Recruitment Mafia 1?Ricochet wrote:I keep saying I'm unrecruited, you must mean. What rezz recruitement possibility?
I don't know what I'm supposed to say about my rezz, really. I was unrecruited when killed, so I was out and done (i.e. loser). I don't know why the Shaman brought me back, of all people, but it didn't come with any recruitement. I'm still unrecruited and I'll still go down and lose the game if I stay that way and get killed again. I'd like to get recruited by the civs, because I'm fairly convinced I won't survive the game unrecruited. Team Azura clearly didn't like me and I doubt they like that I'm back either. I helped lynch Bubbles, in fact growing suspicious of her ever since her Golden D3 flip-flop, so I doubt team Ubzilly are fond of me, either.
Hmm, I made an error in assessing MoSh, it seems. I thought position 5 was up the night Dom was killed, so that MoSh couldn't have been targeted. But with position 4, you're right, MoSh is eligible.
This is very true. I don't think anyone would rez someone not on their team.aapje wrote: Speaking of Rico, I don't trust his rez. He keeps saying he has been recruited but why would anyone bother to bring him back if he is? Not to mention the rezz recruitment possibility.
It was too late to cancel, and I figured I could tough it out. I am pretty hardcore.Long Con wrote:What were you doing on a trapeze when you were sick?
Or.. at all?
Well I was mostly pointing out that the rezz recruit isn't totally unheard of. Especially with these hosts. The main point though was calling bullshit on your unrecruited status and your insistence that you have no idea why you were rezzed.Ricochet wrote:Well that sounds like too much reliance on old meta. Secret baddie team? As in a third bad team? Recruit by rezzing? Yeah, nothing of this kind is in the description. I'm not saying everything has to be written to be possible, but this is too deep into the imagination.
I died N5. D6, Team Azura recruited, then team Caelia recruited, then I was rezzed. I came back unrecruited. No recruitements happened since my rezz. Equals I'm unrecruited. Doubting I'm unrecruited is by all means acceptable, but then go back to my first life.
oi lad u went for a cheeky nandos? ur a ledgethellama73 wrote:So, funny story guys. I n the past three days I have gotten a) sick b) most of the skin on my hand removed by a cat c) a painful rip injury from trapeze and d) poisoned by Nando's.
What if the rezzer is not on any team?thellama73 wrote:This is very true. I don't think anyone would rez someone not on their team.aapje wrote: Speaking of Rico, I don't trust his rez. He keeps saying he has been recruited but why would anyone bother to bring him back if he is? Not to mention the rezz recruitment possibility.
Call bullsuit on my status, then, make a case; but, as I've pointed out, there's not much to tie it to my rezz.aapje wrote:Well I was mostly pointing out that the rezz recruit isn't totally unheard of. Especially with these hosts. The main point though was calling bullshit on your unrecruited status and your insistence that you have no idea why you were rezzed.Ricochet wrote:Well that sounds like too much reliance on old meta. Secret baddie team? As in a third bad team? Recruit by rezzing? Yeah, nothing of this kind is in the description. I'm not saying everything has to be written to be possible, but this is too deep into the imagination.
I died N5. D6, Team Azura recruited, then team Caelia recruited, then I was rezzed. I came back unrecruited. No recruitements happened since my rezz. Equals I'm unrecruited. Doubting I'm unrecruited is by all means acceptable, but then go back to my first life.
Then it would be a pretty dumb move since it would actively hurt their chances to win :PRicochet wrote:What if the rezzer is not on any team?thellama73 wrote:This is very true. I don't think anyone would rez someone not on their team.
Well the thing is, I can see a reason why the Shaman would bring back certain people, even if they have not been recruited. But since you said you have no idea why you were rezzed I think we can safely rule that out now. The fact that you have been rezzed and your reaction to it is basically all I need to think you are up to no good.Ricochet wrote:Call bullsuit on my status, then, make a case; but, as I've pointed out, there's not much to tie it to my rezz.aapje wrote:The main point though was calling bullshit on your unrecruited status and your insistence that you have no idea why you were rezzed.
LoRab asked me why I think I was rezzed, it's not like I came out of my tomb and started opinionating on my own.
How?aapje wrote:Then it would be a pretty dumb move since it would actively hurt their chances to win :PRicochet wrote:What if the rezzer is not on any team?thellama73 wrote:This is very true. I don't think anyone would rez someone not on their team.
I don't get it. I'm no good because I'm being honest about not knowing why someone else (that I can't even put a face on) did to me what he did? How am I supposed to defend or argue for someone else's anonymous intentions? What was I supposed to say, up to your standards and experience in how rezz people behave?aapje wrote:Well the thing is, I can see a reason why the Shaman would bring back certain people, even if they have not been recruited. But since you said you have no idea why you were rezzed I think we can safely rule that out now. The fact that you have been rezzed and your reaction to it is basically all I need to think you are up to no good.Ricochet wrote:Call bullsuit on my status, then, make a case; but, as I've pointed out, there's not much to tie it to my rezz.aapje wrote:The main point though was calling bullshit on your unrecruited status and your insistence that you have no idea why you were rezzed.
LoRab asked me why I think I was rezzed, it's not like I came out of my tomb and started opinionating on my own.
Because resurrecting someone not on your team decreases your chances of winning.Ricochet wrote:How?aapje wrote:Then it would be a pretty dumb move since it would actively hurt their chances to win :PRicochet wrote:What if the rezzer is not on any team?thellama73 wrote:This is very true. I don't think anyone would rez someone not on their team.
Well assuming they stay unrecruited they need to be alive at the end of the game to win. Rezzing people prolongs the game and thus their chances of not staying alive that long. If they end up recruited they only benefit from your rez if they end up on your side.Ricochet wrote:How?aapje wrote:Then it would be a pretty dumb move since it would actively hurt their chances to win :PRicochet wrote:What if the rezzer is not on any team?thellama73 wrote:This is very true. I don't think anyone would rez someone not on their team.
I don't see why I should spell it out. It's obviously you don't know what I am referring to so I can rule out that other logical explanation for your rez. Leaving the one that you are recruited.Ricochet wrote:I don't get it. I'm no good because I'm being honest about not knowing why someone else (that I can't even put a face on) did to me what he did? How am I supposed to defend or argue for someone else's anonymous intentions? What was I supposed to say, up to your standards and experience in how rezz people behave?aapje wrote:Well the thing is, I can see a reason why the Shaman would bring back certain people, even if they have not been recruited. But since you said you have no idea why you were rezzed I think we can safely rule that out now. The fact that you have been rezzed and your reaction to it is basically all I need to think you are up to no good.Ricochet wrote:Call bullsuit on my status, then, make a case; but, as I've pointed out, there's not much to tie it to my rezz.aapje wrote:The main point though was calling bullshit on your unrecruited status and your insistence that you have no idea why you were rezzed.
LoRab asked me why I think I was rezzed, it's not like I came out of my tomb and started opinionating on my own.
You speak in vague, introspective terms ("I can see a reason why", "your reaction to it is all I need") I don't know how to argue against.
I'm leaving in 15 mins.
What if that someone is not on any team?thellama73 wrote:Because resurrecting someone not on your team decreases your chances of winning.Ricochet wrote:How?aapje wrote:Then it would be a pretty dumb move since it would actively hurt their chances to win :PRicochet wrote:What if the rezzer is not on any team?thellama73 wrote:This is very true. I don't think anyone would rez someone not on their team.
