The Syndicate

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Long Con is bad, and you have to trust me on this. I've made some bad calls this game, but this one is different.

Long Con isn't bad, and you have to trust me on this. I've made some bad calls this game, but this one is different as well.

But what's Boomslang's angle here?

Matt wrote:Rico/Sorsha - LC (I think?) and I discussed this, and I think we came to the conclusion that Radical Fuzz was definitely one of his checks, due to Fuzz being top green on his list directly after one of the night phases.

Is anyone searching for Pikmin? I searched for about 5 minutes the other day, and felt like it was trying to find a needle in a haystack. Derp. Maybe if the town got clues like Black Rock did?

Question for anyone who plays a lot with Blooper - Is she typically a rule breaker? Weird question, I know, please bare with me, and answer whether she is known to break/bend rules.

Linki - 3J didn't scum read me. I'm pretty sure he had me as neutral or civ. I also think LC is civ, which is why I don't understand why he seemed to defend you the other night by flipping the Lorab question back at me.

Mac, who do you think is bad this game? Besides me, of course.

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:

Matt wrote:

JaggedJimmyJay wrote:I also note Mac and Matt have placed useless flier votes on people who simply will not be lynched. Matt's vote especially pings me, because he has failed to involve himself in the discussion of my case in any meaningful way -- he's just watched it progress. That's what baddies do when a trainwreck is on the horizon. No need to take part, just let the townies kill each other and hang out on a safe vote. Mac's vote is for Matt, so I dislike it less.

3J - You are a serious bullshitter. My vote for Sorsha came directly after your vote for MM (jj vote for MM - 11th vote, Matt vote for Sorsha - 12th vote), and at the time, both had one vote a piece. So how can you say that my vote for Sorsha is "useless". I brought up a case on Sorsha, two separate cases actually (one that links her to MM, and one specifically calling her out for skimming for her name, which I don't think a civ Sorsha does).

Let me ask you. Do you think MM is bad? If you don't, then don't vote for him. But DO NOT say "I think MM is bad, but if he turns out good, then BAM, Matt was watching us kill each other." Eff that.

For the record, I am VERY happy with an MM lynch (remember me getting ignored going after MM early on in the game, so then I moved on?). Anyway, I don't work until about an hour before the lynch ends. If at the time, there are no votes on Sorsha still, I would gladly see MM lynched over you, so if I have to switch to him before work, I will.

Seriously, though? My vote is "useless" despite at the time, both MM and Sorsha having one vote a piece? King of Fuck Mountain, indeed.

Calm down.

MM has been named as a key suspect by quite a few people and entering this phase his lynch was more than a decent possibility. Talk of lynching Sorsha has not been nearly as substantive or quantitative.

What do you think of a JaggedJimmyJay lynch independent of a Metalmarsh lynch? What do you think of the notion that I am the revealed Kubrick role?

Separately, if I am a serious bullshitter then why are you offering to spare my life?

Matt wrote:Is anyone searching for Pikmin? I searched for about 5 minutes the other day, and felt like it was trying to find a needle in a haystack. Derp. Maybe if the town got clues like Black Rock did?

Matt wrote:RIP 3J.

Mac - Wow. "In honor of Jimmy", you vote for me? I had nothing to do with 3J's death, and I'd like to know why you think I did. Also, I just realized you disappeared the other night when we were having a back and forth about Lorab, and then LC came to your defense.

LC/Mac - Where do you stand on one another? I realize Dom just asked LC the same question and LC "answered"...LC, do you think Mac is good, bad, or indy? At first, I felt Mac was just being his jokey self, but it's been non stop this game. All about ties, he's literally not even trying to find baddies. Not at all like the Mac I saw in Dune or Star Wars.

Long Con wrote:

DrWilgy wrote:

Boomslang wrote:Long Con is bad, and you have to trust me on this. I've made some bad calls this game, but this one is different.

Long Con isn't bad, and you have to trust me on this. I've made some bad calls this game, but this one is different as well.

But what's Boomslang's angle here?

Boomslang's post and fly by vote is not anything I saw him try as a baddie partner in Pet Sounds. Honestly, I feel like he was cursed to say that, and then dip. Just what I'm thinkin' though, if he comes back and posts, then derp.

Matt wrote:Mac - lol at your quote, I forgot about that. I don't necessarily think he thought I was bad, though. Or maybe because I thought he was civ, I thought that he thought I was civ? Derp.

Also, Capt Olimar received clues as to where the Pikmin were hidden. Wasn't Black Rock that role?

LC - Tbh, I was kind of defending Boomslang, not you. It just seemed really weird when he said that, voted, and dipped. Didn't seem natural.

MacDougall wrote:I appreciate the vote of confidence but to say that I am being ten times as bad as Tranq is hyperbole in the extreme. The guy barely posted. I've put in a fair amount of effort, it's just not voluminous in comparison to my usual.

FZ. wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I appreciate the vote of confidence but to say that I am being ten times as bad as Tranq is hyperbole in the extreme. The guy barely posted. I've put in a fair amount of effort, it's just not voluminous in comparison to my usual.

I'm talking about your votes to get ties, and your joking attitude in the last few days. You already know that I felt that as the game progressed Tranq was trying harder, while with you, it seems the opposite.


What do you think about DH?

FZ. wrote:I've been back and forth with DH the entire game. In the last few days, I don't recall him being helpful. Saying I don't feel like I did in Death Note is his entire contribution. And when I think of why would someone kill JJJ, he has the best reason because JJJ called him bad in the day before the last. It also drives the game into chaos because as you see, the attention shifts between those who trusted jjj and those who strongly suspected him. Takes the discussion away from people like DH.

MacDougall wrote:

FZ. wrote:I've been back and forth with DH the entire game. In the last few days, I don't recall him being helpful. Saying I don't feel like I did in Death Note is his entire contribution. And when I think of why would someone kill JJJ, he has the best reason because JJJ called him bad in the day before the last. It also drives the game into chaos because as you see, the attention shifts between those who trusted jjj and those who strongly suspected him. Takes the discussion away from people like DH.

I haven't really been pinged by much that DH did but you're right in that he's quietened down. But I have too so that'd be being hypocritical of me...

I must say though, you look pretty civ.

MacDougall wrote:I think LC is civ. He's a pretty strong civ read actually.

What took you so long to start no uing me Matt?

I mean in honour of JJJ because he scum read you and big upped my vote on you yesterday.

Dom do you make posts that aren't just asking people questions about other people? What's your stance on my "subdued game".

MacDougall wrote:

Matt wrote:Rico/Sorsha - LC (I think?) and I discussed this, and I think we came to the conclusion that Radical Fuzz was definitely one of his checks, due to Fuzz being top green on his list directly after one of the night phases.

Is anyone searching for Pikmin? I searched for about 5 minutes the other day, and felt like it was trying to find a needle in a haystack. Derp. Maybe if the town got clues like Black Rock did?

Question for anyone who plays a lot with Blooper - Is she typically a rule breaker? Weird question, I know, please bare with me, and answer whether she is known to break/bend rules.

Linki - 3J didn't scum read me. I'm pretty sure he had me as neutral or civ. I also think LC is civ, which is why I don't understand why he seemed to defend you the other night by flipping the Lorab question back at me.

Mac, who do you think is bad this game? Besides me, of course.

Juliets, Dom, Boomslang

FZ. wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

FZ. wrote:I've been back and forth with DH the entire game. In the last few days, I don't recall him being helpful. Saying I don't feel like I did in Death Note is his entire contribution. And when I think of why would someone kill JJJ, he has the best reason because JJJ called him bad in the day before the last. It also drives the game into chaos because as you see, the attention shifts between those who trusted jjj and those who strongly suspected him. Takes the discussion away from people like DH.

I haven't really been pinged by much that DH did but you're right in that he's quietened down. But I have too so that'd be being hypocritical of me...

I must say though, you look pretty civ.

I think i'm an obvious civ...but what does it say about LC when he's suspicious of me. I just don't get it.

Dom wrote:

MacDougall wrote:I think LC is civ. He's a pretty strong civ read actually.

What took you so long to start no uing me Matt?

I mean in honour of JJJ because he scum read you and big upped my vote on you yesterday.

Dom do you make posts that aren't just asking people questions about other people? What's your stance on my "subdued game".

Maybe you should read my posts and you'd see the answer to that. I made quite a few on the last few pages.


Where's the content you're so proud of usually? Where's the boasting about your post count? Where's the taunting others? These are all things I've associated with you as a civvie and I'm seeing none of it.

I don't know if the NO U is directed at me or not, but it's not a NO U. I've explained why I don't trust either one of you separately from your own accusations of me.

MacDougall wrote:

Matt wrote:Rico/Sorsha - LC (I think?) and I discussed this, and I think we came to the conclusion that Radical Fuzz was definitely one of his checks, due to Fuzz being top green on his list directly after one of the night phases.

Is anyone searching for Pikmin? I searched for about 5 minutes the other day, and felt like it was trying to find a needle in a haystack. Derp. Maybe if the town got clues like Black Rock did?

Question for anyone who plays a lot with Blooper - Is she typically a rule breaker? Weird question, I know, please bare with me, and answer whether she is known to break/bend rules.

Linki - 3J didn't scum read me. I'm pretty sure he had me as neutral or civ. I also think LC is civ, which is why I don't understand why he seemed to defend you the other night by flipping the Lorab question back at me.

Mac, who do you think is bad this game? Besides me, of course.

Juliets, Dom, Boomslang

This is a new one-- when did I become bad??
Add Mac to the list of people suspecting me without saying why!

Mac has skated by for days after opening strong. Zero chance that wasn't planned.

FZ. wrote:

MacDougall wrote:

FZ. wrote:I've been back and forth with DH the entire game. In the last few days, I don't recall him being helpful. Saying I don't feel like I did in Death Note is his entire contribution. And when I think of why would someone kill JJJ, he has the best reason because JJJ called him bad in the day before the last. It also drives the game into chaos because as you see, the attention shifts between those who trusted jjj and those who strongly suspected him. Takes the discussion away from people like DH.

I haven't really been pinged by much that DH did but you're right in that he's quietened down. But I have too so that'd be being hypocritical of me...

I must say though, you look pretty civ.

I think i'm an obvious civ...but what does it say about LC when he's suspicious of me. I just don't get it.

I'm not LC, but your defense of JJJ (despite being right) did not sit well with me-- now I interpret it as buddying-- thought, that coul dbe confirmation bias working against me.

What makes you think I'm buddying with LC? How do you know that that is a possible scenario? Why do you exclude LC buddying me? I get your language analysis, but you don't even attempt to see it the other way. Aren't you one of the people that say civs are usually not so close minded? Or am I wrong about that (and I could be)?

FZ. wrote: Dom, I'm not sold on you, I just feel the worst about you.

In what way did my defense of jjj not sit well with you? I strongly defended him, and at the time, you all said it was because we were baddies working together. Now that he's a confirmed civ, I must have buddied up to him because I'm bad. I did my damnedest to make sure you all don't lynch him because that's what I do when I believe people are civvies. I think you've played enough games with me to know that by now. Hell yes, confirmation bias. When one theory (both of us being bad) doesn't work, you keep your conviction of me being bad at check by getting another one (me buddying up to him).

I guess I consider both you and LC to be intelligent players and I can't figure out why you didn't see in JJJ what I saw, and now are viewing me as bad as well. I figure at least LC had a decent reason with his Kubrick theory, but I felt you were just latching. Then again, I think a good baddie would come up with really reasonable reasons to lynch civvies, and I know LC is a good player. I'm really stuck with you two.

As for Mac, I get what you're saying, and I think we all see it. Would he be that obvious about it if he were bad? Possibly, but I hesitate

MacDougall wrote:You associate those things with me as bad but if you played TH you'd associate them with me as scum too.

I don't want to have to point to my meta to defend myself. It's poor form. That misplaced smiley you put in that post up there is actually this imo.

Boomslang wrote:Why would I make such an unprecedented move on LC? What could I have possibly learned between Day 5 and Day 6? You're all smart people, you can figure it out.

Also, I figure it's about time I do a GTH of everyone:
bea - civ
Boomslang - civ
DH - civ
Dom - mafia
Dr Wilgy - civ
Drac - civ
FZ. - civ
juliets - mafia
LC - mafia
Mac - mafia
Matt - civ
MM - civ
motel room - civ
ninjablooper - mafia
Sorsha - civ

Boomslang wrote:Why would I make such an unprecedented move on LC? What could I have possibly learned between Day 5 and Day 6? You're all smart people, you can figure it out.

Also, I figure it's about time I do a GTH of everyone:
bea - civ
Boomslang - civ
DH - civ
Dom - mafia
Dr Wilgy - civ
Drac - civ
FZ. - civ
juliets - mafia
LC - mafia
Mac - mafia
Matt - civ
MM - civ
motel room - civ
ninjablooper - mafia
Sorsha - civ

Dom wrote:This is why I hate the concept of GTH reads. People now use them as reasons to vote.

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:This is why I hate the concept of GTH reads. People now use them as reasons to vote.

Your foolish hostess has no idea what "GTH reads" are; can someone enlighten me?

Sorsha wrote:

S~V~S wrote:

Dom wrote:This is why I hate the concept of GTH reads. People now use them as reasons to vote.

Your foolish hostess has no idea what "GTH reads" are; can someone enlighten me?

It's if you imagine someone had a gun to your head (gth) and you had to decide in that instant if the player is civ or Mafia.

Dom wrote:This is why I hate the concept of GTH reads. People now use them as reasons to vote.

S~V~S wrote:I don't even know what happened in the night post yet.

FZ. wrote:I guess I consider both you and LC to be intelligent players and I can't figure out why you didn't see in JJJ what I saw, and now are viewing me as bad as well.

FZ. wrote:JJJ, why did you vote Lorab on day 3.0 and then changed it to DH on day 3.5? What ever happened to your suspicion of DH? You haven't even talked about it last day.

LC, I'm starting to think there's a chance I've been fooled all along.

Boomslang wrote:Why would I make such an unprecedented move on LC? What could I have possibly learned between Day 5 and Day 6? You're all smart people, you can figure it out.

Dom wrote:This is why I hate the concept of GTH reads. People now use them as reasons to vote.

Long Con wrote:

S~V~S wrote:I don't even know what happened in the night post yet.

It's not pretty. I'm sorry I tried to lynch one of your precious pets. I wish I could have seen some enhancement in action!

By the way - did anyone get enhanced by him that they know of? Just curious, don't tell us your power or anything.

FZ. wrote:I guess I consider both you and LC to be intelligent players and I can't figure out why you didn't see in JJJ what I saw, and now are viewing me as bad as well.

FZ. wrote:JJJ, why did you vote Lorab on day 3.0 and then changed it to DH on day 3.5? What ever happened to your suspicion of DH? You haven't even talked about it last day.

LC, I'm starting to think there's a chance I've been fooled all along.

This is it. This is when I really believed you were bad, for the record. I was just starting to come around on JJJ. I eased up on his lynch for the first time, and started to look at the way that the timing and unlikelihood of the Kubrick role reveal seemed intentional. Then you, FZ, came in with some mild doubt, a direct message to me to make me go for his lynch again, and a dramatic sigh.

To say something like your first quote here... but when I did start coming around on him, it wasn't "finally LC you are getting it", it was "LC, maybe you're right, stay the course!"

*votes FZ.*

FZ. wrote:I'm voting LC. I think he's smarter than this, sorry.

Next up are either Dom or Juliets

FZ. wrote:I already explained that based on something i knew regarding their vote (value), I thought maybe I was wrong all along, which is what I wanted to share.

FZ. wrote:Saying what i did, and then going and killing him right after would have been stupid, but whatever.

DrWilgy wrote:Can Tranq's and JJJ's roles be put on the front page?